Pinning under 6IU’s of HGH during puberty is useless

[narrator_313]

first off pinning gh doesn't stop ur natural GH production
and also I cba to explain this so ill put it simply
U get pulses of GH from ur body (of equal to 5iu hgh) as the OP says
However it doesn't remain at that level the whole day vs pinning GH ur levels stay stable not in pulses
and anyways pinning would just add ontop of ur natural pulses anyways

“Doesn’t stop ur natural production” LMAO this nigga never heard of a negative feedback loop when u pin lets say about 5IU’s of hgh thats gonna stay in ur body for a max of like 4 hours and then ur gh flatlines how is this stable??

 

[Grievous]

“Doesn’t stop ur natural production” LMAO this nigga never heard of a negative feedback loop when u pin lets say about 5IU’s of hgh thats gonna stay in ur body for a max of like 4 hours and then ur gh flatlines how is this stable??

Nigga
Do u know ANYTHING about about GH
No shit the GH leaves ur system in hours but that doesn't change the its effect on ur hormones
Also since u faggot seem to want to believe AI here's a response written from chatgpt -

Bro you’re confusing permanent shutdown with temporary feedback suppression.
Yeah, GH spikes after you pin and natural pulses stop for a few hours, that’s normal negative feedback. But once the exogenous GH clears, your pituitary starts firing again. HGH doesn’t shut down your axis the way test does — that’s why nobody runs PCT after GH.

5 IU = ~1.6 mg. Natural late-puberty output is ~1.8 mg/day. Even if half the natural pulses get suppressed, total GH exposure still ends up HIGHER than baseline. That’s why IGF-1 skyrockets. GH itself is short-acting, but IGF-1 stays elevated 24/7 and that’s what drives fat loss and growth.

So yeah, the curve isn’t “stable” like natural pulses — it’s a big artificial spike — but pretending it does nothing because of feedback is just bro-science. If 5 IU “flatlined” you for the rest of the day, pros wouldn’t be using it.

 

[subvitobasso]

two different IU's

natural gh is small pulses and injected gh is once and big flat exposure. daily produced igf1 will be higher in Teenagers who inject

 

[narrator_313]

Man’s gotta admit when he’s wrong sorry saar

 

[subvitobasso]

first off pinning gh doesn't stop ur natural GH production
and also I cba to explain this so ill put it simply
U get pulses of GH from ur body (of equal to 5iu hgh) as the OP says
However it doesn't remain at that level the whole day vs pinning GH ur levels stay stable not in pulses
and anyways pinning would just add ontop of ur natural pulses anyways

it does stop your natural GH production. even if you pin 0.5IU your natural production of gh is dead

 

[Grievous]

Man’s gotta admit when he’s wrong sorry saar

Thank u

 

[subvitobasso]

"" my ass nigga elaborate @Grievous

 

[Grievous]

"" my ass nigga elaborate @Grievous

Im not elaborating on ur simple retardation
Just go ask chatgpt does pinning exogenous GH shutdown natural production
U are a retard thats not even worth arguing with since even google would disagree with u

 

[dnrwarrior11]

Im not elaborating on ur simple retardation
Just go ask chatgpt does pinning exogenous GH shutdown natural production
U are a retard thats not even worth arguing with since even google would disagree with u

DO NOT waste ur time arguing with this nigga

he will literally just keep spewing out bs arguments and keep calling u retarded, its gonna go nowhere trust me

 

[subvitobasso]

Im not elaborating on ur simple retardation
Just go ask chatgpt does pinning exogenous GH shutdown natural production
U are a retard thats not even worth arguing with since even google would disagree with u

it does shutdown for short period of time and then it recovers. that's what I said nigga when you JFL'ed

 

[Grievous]

DO NOT waste ur time arguing with this nigga

he will literally just keep spewing out bs arguments and keep calling u retarded, its gonna go nowhere trust me

The arguments done OP has accepted im right

 

[Mayosub3]

Thank u

Man this thread made me laugh so hard especially how the nigga with hernan drago avi started insulting you

 

[Grievous]

Man this thread made me laugh so hard especially how the nigga with hernan drago avi started insulting you

Nigga started using logic out of a out of context fucking gemini ai or whatever google uses
Then when I proved him wrong he js started trying to insult me

 

[subvitobasso]

DO NOT waste ur time arguing with this nigga

he will literally just keep spewing out bs arguments and keep calling u retarded, its gonna go nowhere trust me

you dont remember it right. you spewed bs arguments not me

 

[Brian Weber]

Stupid nigger don’t you know that exogenous hgh produces significantly more igf per iu then endogenous

 

[Greyascension]

@Greyascension has arrived to the thread
I am trying to educate greycels but this cocky bluecell is disagreeing for some reason
Even OP agrees with me atp id bet

I'm at work AGAIN but I was reading through all of this. Thank you for educating these people are retarded bhai I hope they agree with you atp

 

[Greyascension]

@Grievous maybe after all this they'll decide to DYOR for like 5 seconds at least

 

[lucifer88]

not bad kid

 

[lucifer88]

I'm at work AGAIN but I was reading through all of this. Thank you for educating these people are retarded bhai I hope they agree with you atpisnit bitch as

niot th not this bitch ass nigger again

 

[lucifer88]

shut up

 

[Grievous]

@Grievous maybe after all this they'll decide to DYOR for like 5 seconds at least

now you've bumped this thread more retards are viewing it and this better not start another argument when OP has literally admitted im right

 

[Greyascension]

niot th not this bitch ass nigger again

This retarded fucking nigger

 

[lucifer88]

This retarded fucking nigger

im so tired of u dude js shut ur fucking mouth holy shit

 

[lucifer88]

like gnuley

 

[Greyascension]

now you've bumped this thread more retards are viewing it and this better not start another argument when OP has literally admitted im right

EVERYBODY WHO SEES THIS READ THROUGH EVERY FUCKING REPLY BEFORE EVEN FUCKING REPLYING. Ts @Grievous educated even me bhais

 

[Greyascension]

@Grievous my god brah this fucking new hire is insufferable I have to work with this guy till 2am and go to school at 6

 

[Grievous]

@Grievous my god brah this fucking new hire is insufferable I have to work with this guy till 2am and go to school at 6

dont bump ts thread anymore PM me
Thats brootall anyways fucking hell
anything to pay for ur stack

 

[stufftodo]

first off pinning gh doesn't stop ur natural GH production
and also I cba to explain this so ill put it simply
U get pulses of GH from ur body (of equal to 5iu hgh) as the OP says
However it doesn't remain at that level the whole day vs pinning GH ur levels stay stable not in pulses
and anyways pinning would just add ontop of ur natural pulses anyways

doesn't signal strength weaken due to exogenous hgh being constant? so the natural pulses weaken.

i feel like on paper exogenous hgh gives a lot of downsides but it works so well

 

[aryan.11]

@Greyascension has arrived to the thread
I am trying to educate greycels but this cocky bluecell is disagreeing for some reason
Even OP agrees with me atp id bet

so in ur opinion, its still chill to take like 5 ius a day, im still going to see growth? or should we up it

 

[Grievous]

so in ur opinion, its still chill to take like 5 ius a day, im still going to see growth? or should we up it

Depends what ur looking for
Height no its not enough muscle yes it is enough

 

[aryan.11]

Depends what ur looking for
Height no its not enough muscle yes it is enough

ah ok, well i am 15 rn about 5'10 5'11, im tryna maximize my height, what dosage would u recommend?

 

[Mayosub3]

Nigga started using logic out of a out of context fucking gemini ai or whatever google uses
Then when I proved him wrong he js started trying to insult me

Ai overview is jewish technology for average retarded normie and usually it gives you nothing more than false information

 

[aryan.11]

ah ok, well i am 15 rn about 5'10 5'11, im tryna maximize my height, what dosage would u recommend?

@Griveous reply please

 

[aryan.11]

Depends what ur looking for
Height no its not enough muscle yes it is enough

reply bra pleasee

 

[Grievous]

reply bra pleasee

I am conflicted on whether or not you'll actually get height growth
However 8IU minimum if u want a chance

 

[aryan.11]

I am conflicted on whether or not you'll actually get height growth
However 8IU minimum if u want a chance

ok then, but why are you conflicted? shouldnt hgh do the job if i have open plates? its super straightforward no?

 

[JustCallMeKash]

lmao thank god I was too broke to buy that shit, then the best way to heightmax is taking and doing stuff that boosts what ur body naturally produces idk shi about heightmaxxing im pretty confident that being a late bloomer will jst save me since I grew 3 inches this year and im almost 19

 

[JustCallMeKash]

how do you boost whar ur body naturally produces

lmao thank god I was too broke to buy that shit, then the best way to heightmax is taking and doing stuff that boosts what ur body naturally produces idk shi about heightmaxxing im pretty confident that being a late bloomer will jst save me since I grew 3 inches this year and im almost 19

 

[SvtvnTr14d]

No

why not? imo it makes sense honestly

 

[Saint]

first off pinning gh doesn't stop ur natural GH production
and also I cba to explain this so ill put it simply
U get pulses of GH from ur body (of equal to 5iu hgh) as the OP says
However it doesn't remain at that level the whole day vs pinning GH ur levels stay stable not in pulses
and anyways pinning would just add ontop of ur natural pulses anyways

@Saint is the OP correct or is pinning 4 iu of hgh daily goated?

Endogenous GH is released in short pulses (especially during sleep), and taking exogenous GH doesn’t immediately shut this off, but chronic use can suppress your natural pulsatile production over time, and injected GH doesn’t replicate the body’s normal peaks even though it elevates overall levels.

 

[Foidmaxxer]

first off pinning gh doesn't stop ur natural GH production
and also I cba to explain this so ill put it simply
U get pulses of GH from ur body (of equal to 5iu hgh) as the OP says
However it doesn't remain at that level the whole day vs pinning GH ur levels stay stable not in pulses
and anyways pinning would just add ontop of ur natural pulses anyways

where have you seen studies that say exogenous hgh wont stop your own production? Every study i have read claims that exogenous hgh makes your body stop producing its own pulses.

 

[larpmaster_]

During puberty ur body is already producing the equivalent of 5.4IU’s of HGH on average (15-18 years old)

Studies used: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1730812/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8370685/

Endogenous growth hormone secretion and clearance rates in normal boys​

Findings: Reported daily GH outputs in healthy males rise from early puberty to late puberty. For example:

• Prepubertal (Tanner I, ~9–12 yr): about 0.61–0.76 mg/day (610–760 μg/24 h) .
• Mid-puberty (Tanner ~III, ~13–15 yr): about 1.0–1.03 mg/day (≈1025 μg/24 h) .
• Late-puberty (Tanner V, ~16–18 yr): about 1.8–1.81 mg/day (≈1810 μg/24 h) .

Steps of converting mg to IU: 1mg = 3IU’s == 1IU = 0.33mg

So through the ages of 15 to 18 you’re already producing roughly 5.4 IU’s worth of HGH by yourself. Meaning if you pin anything below 6IU’s ur basically shutting down ur own production for less growth hormone in turn you will grow to be shorter AND have less bonemass.

The sweet spot would be around 6-10IU’s (results start to diminish after 10IU’s) for teens

Injecting GH as a teen CAN make you shorter but only because TOO MUCH GH prematurely closes growth plates. Not because you’re “below natural 6 IU.”

 

[idnap]

Injecting GH as a teen CAN make you shorter but only because TOO MUCH GH prematurely closes growth plates. Not because you’re “below natural 6 IU.”

Mr. Grey, what if we take AIs?