Planning first cycle - 18M

[appeal warrior]

First gear cycle at 18, planning on starting in april.
2 years lifting naturally, 550ng/dl test, nutrition/sleep consistently good, with an above average FAI, and every other marker being mid-range/normal

the plan (10 weeks):
test E - 300mg/week (will titrate up from 100 weekly to see response)
(maybe - more lean mass gain counters water ret) anavar - 20mg/day (i have lgd on hand, can always ditch var and do lgd instead)
(maybe - heard its basically useless) hgh - 8iu/weekly
supportive supplements to counter risks of infertility/estrogen imbalance

the goal: lean mass gain, slight height boost, slight facial remodeling, and
the worries:
natural hpta shutdown/permanent suppression - lots of fearmongering on these forums so ill be ignoring those mossad agent "no recovery possible" replies
risk of recycling due to being hooked on the progress/feeling of it - pretty much have this covered as i love lifting as long as my baseline test returns to normal at a fairly fast rate (NO you retards i am not "blasting and cruising," this is purely an experiment and i am not aiming to expose myself to years of androgen exposure and ruin my health)

thoughts?

 

[Bryce]

Your hairstyle mixed with the silver cross necklace has me dying. Faggot deluxe.

 

[chudpiller]

I’m also 18 and I am pinning test for the first time today. I think you should have an ai on hand bc 300mg can put your e2 above normal range.

 

[Itsnotover77]

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First gear cycle at 18, planning on starting in april.
2 years lifting naturally, 550ng/dl test, nutrition/sleep consistently good, with an above average FAI, and every other marker being mid-range/normal

the plan (10 weeks):
test E - 300mg/week (will titrate up from 100 weekly to see response)
(maybe - more lean mass gain counters water ret) anavar - 20mg/day (i have lgd on hand, can always ditch var and do lgd instead)
(maybe - heard its basically useless) hgh - 8iu/weekly
supportive supplements to counter risks of infertility/estrogen imbalance

the goal: lean mass gain, slight height boost, slight facial remodeling, and
the worries:
natural hpta shutdown/permanent suppression - lots of fearmongering on these forums so ill be ignoring those mossad agent "no recovery possible" replies
risk of recycling due to being hooked on the progress/feeling of it - pretty much have this covered as i love lifting as long as my baseline test returns to normal at a fairly fast rate (NO you retards i am not "blasting and cruising," this is purely an experiment and i am not aiming to expose myself to years of androgen exposure and ruin my health)

thoughts?

one of the rare good first cycles.
But I wouldn’t add anavar. Just watch how your body reacts on test on your first cycle and think then about anavar in your 2nd cycle maybe.

 

[appeal warrior]

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one of the rare good first cycles.
But I wouldn’t add anavar. Just watch how your body reacts on test on your first cycle and think then about anavar in your 2nd cycle maybe.

on the fence about it, just thinking about the dry gains it will add in the cycle. test will cause lots of bloating and including anavar would have no effect on aromatization.
not planning on a 2nd cycle as well, so wouldnt it be best to maximize what i get out of this cycle?
var's downsides would just be its hepatoxic properties (equiv to drinking on weekends, so irrelevant), and more hpta axis suppression post cycle making recovery harder (this is the main thing thats holding me back from being 100% about its addition)

 

[appeal warrior]

I’m also 18 and I am pinning test for the first time today. I think you should have an ai on hand bc 300mg can put your e2 above normal range.

whats your dosage and plan for it? and yeah ill def be managing my e2 levels

 

[Intheendiwillwin]

i‘m running the same cycle soon. Get tudca and berberin for liver support anf cholersterol. Get arimidex if u aromatise too much, but dont take unless u notice sides. Nolvadex as pct is enough easily, but make sure to go 200-500cals above maintenance during pct.

Dm me if u want i’ll literally run 300-500 test for 15 weeks and 20mg var for the first 8 also at 17/18

 

[chudpiller]

whats your dosage and plan for it? and yeah ill def be managing my e2 levels

I am starting with 262.5mg per week (weird dose since it’s 0.3cc every other day). I have arimidex in case I need it, but I will also get my e2 checked a couple months in

 

[PharmaPhaggot]

the plan (10 weeks):
test E - 300mg/week (will titrate up from 100 weekly to see response)

I see no poiny in tutrating but its fine if youre inhib is mega

(maybe - more lean mass gain counters water ret) anavar - 20mg/day (i have lgd on hand, can always ditch var and do lgd instead)

DItch it and switch

maybe - heard its basically useless) hgh - 8iu/weekly

Youve heard it from a retard, great at giving some extra muscle boost, skin etc

You could add slin too if its a bulk

 

[Itsnotover77]

on the fence about it, just thinking about the dry gains it will add in the cycle. test will cause lots of bloating and including anavar would have no effect on aromatization.
not planning on a 2nd cycle as well, so wouldnt it be best to maximize what i get out of this cycle?
var's downsides would just be its hepatoxic properties (equiv to drinking on weekends, so irrelevant), and more hpta axis suppression post cycle making recovery harder (this is the main thing thats holding me back from being 100% about its addition)

My opinion is, watch how you react first on test and if you get the results you want to, you won’t need to take more.
Maybe you are a very good responder.
I mean the ideal should be taking as much as necessary, but as less as possible.

 

[dalialite]

(maybe - heard its basically useless) hgh - 8iu/weekly

growth plates typically fuse by 16-18 so it depends when you started puberty. At 8iu/week, even if open, height growth is minimal, but definitely don't drop it since its great for increasing lean body mass. just dont expect height. soz

First gear cycle at 18, planning on starting in april.

ion wanna be the guy to tell you to wait but i saw on a bodybuilding forum you should wait til your mid-20s if you wanna max out your full potential + minimise HPTA rape youre starting on a good foundation tho so you should be gud

natural hpta shutdown/permanent suppression - lots of fearmongering on these forums so ill be ignoring those mossad agent "no recovery possible" replies

at 10 weeks full recovery is very likely and crippled issues are rare (yk unless abused or genetically unlucky). tards who think theres no recovery are overstating it. js get pre-cycle bloods (test, LH, FSH, E2), mid-cycle, and post-PCT to track.

risk of recycling due to being hooked on the progress/feeling of it - pretty much have this covered as i love lifting as long as my baseline test returns to normal at a fairly fast rate (NO you retards i am not "blasting and cruising," this is purely an experiment and i am not aiming to expose myself to years of androgen exposure and ruin my health)

ye valid concern however only 20-30% of first-time users continue long-term. if your baseline returns fast (it should at 18), and you continue natural lifting, you could avoid it.

thoughts?

mirin good luck bhai