Please Don't Take Steroids

[Lonely]

I see a lot of threads made by 15, 16, 17 year olds saying they wanna take steroids. You're all gonna fuck up your development for some muscles that you could've gotten naturally. If you're not in your 5th+ year of training don't even think about touching roids. Your training/ skill/ diet/ recovery will be so suboptimal you'll be wasting time, money and organ health by roiding. You won't get optimal results. It's like someone roiding whilst benching 1 plate. Like wtf lmao.

You get an amazing physique naturally. If you must take roids, wait until you finish puberty. And don't take SARMs.

 

[Adonis]

5th+ year

Too conservative I'd say.
After 2-3 years of constant training + good diet, you will only get minimal results without juice.

 

[Adonis]

And don't take SARMs.

Elab

 

[ItsOverCel]

Don't listen to him. As a young guy you have to take PEDs and shit because you have time and energy to train and your body is more capable of recovering and you have overall better health, you should enjoy your youth and PEDs can make you stand out. MUH DONT TAKE ROIDS UNTIL U LIFT 10 YEARS. SHUT THE FUCK UP I WON'T NEED ROIDS AFTER 25 YEARS BECAUSE I WILL BE WAGESLAVING AND NORWOODING AND HAVE NO CHANCES

 

[Lonely]

Elab

SARMs are just a weaker version of steroids with probably more side effects. Just inject Test.

 

[Lonely]

Too conservative I'd say.
After 2-3 years of constant training + good diet, you will only get minimal results without juice.

Not true lol. 2-3 years is just the beginning.

 

[Mongrelcel]

If you're not in your 5th+ year of training don't even think about touching roids.

It's like someone roiding whilst benching 1 plate. Like wtf lmao

I always see this sentiment from gymgoers, even those that are roided themselves

but I don't see the logic behind it, why should someone who didn't train for years not take steroids?
Imagine someone who has been natty training for like a half a year, meaning his tendons are strong enough, his form and mind muscle connection is there, he has a solid diet - why shouldn't he roid if he wants quick progress?

like I get it that he's getting more progress natty then someone who's been training for 4 years and has hit a plateau, but with roids his progress will still be incomparable to his natty progress lol

 

[ItsOverCel]

with probably more side effects

YOU SHOULDNT HAVE CREATED THIS THREAD WITH SUCH LITTLE KNOWLEDGE
THE ONLY SIDE EFFECT OF SARMS IS TEMPORARY DECREASE IN TESTOSTERONE

 

[Lonely]

Don't listen to him. As a young guy you have to take PEDs and shit because you have time and energy to train and your body is more capable of recovering and you have overall better health, you should enjoy your youth and PEDs can make you stand out. MUH DONT TAKE ROIDS UNTIL U LIFT 10 YEARS. SHUT THE FUCK UP I WON'T NEED ROIDS AFTER 25 YEARS BECAUSE I WILL BE WAGESLAVING AND NORWOODING AND HAVE NO CHANCES

This is bad advice. If you're lifting you probably plan on lifting for the rest of your life. You'll look amazing after 2 to 3 years anyways if you don't train like a moron. Why not just stay Natty?

 

[Lonely]

YOU SHOULDNT HAVE CREATED THIS THREAD WITH SUCH LITTLE KNOWLEDGE
THE ONLY SIDE EFFECT OF SARMS IS TEMPORARY DECREASE IN TESTOSTERONE

No you fool SARMs have not been fully studied and could have serious health consequences. They're so new people don't even know the side effects let alone know how to manage them.

Testosterone is just a far better version and its side effects are super well known and studied. Just take Test. Most people who don't take Test are pussies who can't inject.

 

[ItsOverCel]

Why not just stay Natty?

Because hardly gain any muscle without getting bloated and if staying lean being small and clothes this is how natties work. Otherwise train for years bulk and cut and look like shit most of the time. PEDs solve the problem

 

[ItsOverCel]

Testosterone is just a far better version and its side effects are super well known and studied. Just take Test. Most people who don't take Test are pussies who can't inject.

test is shit very weak as an anabolic but can cause norwood acne and shit lol JFL at testlowiqniggers RAD 140 mogs test to the oblivion

 

[Lonely]

I always see this sentiment from gymgoers, even those that are roided themselves

but I don't see the logic behind it, why should someone who didn't train for years not take steroids?
Imagine someone who has been natty training for like a half a year, meaning his tendons are strong enough, his form and mind muscle connection is there, he has a solid diet - why shouldn't he roid if he wants quick progress?

like I get it that he's getting more progress natty then someone who's been training for 4 years and has hit a plateau, but with roids his progress will still be incomparable to his natty progress lol

Someone in their first year of training won't be training with adequate intensity or volume, nor have their nutrition and recovery nailed down so they'll get subpar results if they rood whereas he could've gotten EXPONENTIALLY more results if he just waited a few years.

 

[Lonely]

Because hardly gain any muscle without getting bloated and if staying lean being small and clothes this is how natties work. Otherwise train for years bulk and cut and look like shit most of the time. PEDs solve the problem

This is so stupid lol. There are tons of Natties who look absolutely amazing. You sound like a maingainer who's afraid of bulking.

 

[Adonis]

SARMs are just a weaker version of steroids with probably more side effects. Just inject Test.

Even S-23?
I heared its stronger than test but its not tested on humans and caused cancer in rats.

 

[Lonely]

test is shit very weak as an anabolic but can cause norwood acne and shit lol JFL at testlowiqniggers RAD 140 mogs test to the oblivion

LOL man you must be trolling. Testosterone is the bread and butter anabolic and MOGS rad 140 so hard.

Also if you're gonna bald on test you'd have balded anyways. Just take anti balding stuff jfl.

 

[ItsOverCel]

This is so stupid lol. There are tons of Natties who look absolutely amazing. You sound like a maingainer who's afraid of bulking.

I am not because I take SARMs whenever I bulk

 

[Lonely]

Even S-23?
I heared its stronger than test but its not tested on humans and caused cancer in rats.

Why would you put experimental anabolics that are most likely far less effective in humans with far greater possible side effects when you can just take testosterone with precautionary measures to limit its side effects and get amazing results?

 

[Orc]

might be time to add a bot that automatically posts a warning.

but I don't see the logic behind it, why should someone who didn't train for years not take steroids?

mostly because they don't know how to train which means they'll waste most of it (or end up disproportionate by missing entire muscle groups), and don't have a developed base to fall back upon, which will cause them to become incredibly insecure once they lower the dose or cycle off.

+ messing with your endocrine system for results you might've gotten anyway, most guys don't want to be huge, they want bodies that are within natural capacity, and if that's all you want there's no reason to risk it.

 

[Lonely]

I am not because I take SARMs whenever I bulk

 

[ItsOverCel]

LOL man you must be trolling. Testosterone is the bread and butter anabolic and MOGS rad 140 so hard.

Also if you're gonna bald on test you'd have balded anyways. Just take anti balding stuff jfl.

no man you don't know shit about the subject reddit soyboys inject because they compensate and they all will tell you inject test IRL rad 140 s 23 yk 11 they all give more muscle than test they are stronger anabolics imagine if one guy makes 2 test cycles in a year and another 2 rad 140 cycles then they stop the one who did rad 140 will have more muscle

 

[Lonely]

no man you don't know shit about the subject reddit soyboys inject because they compensate and they all will tell you inject test IRL rad 140 s 23 yk 11 they all give more muscle than test they are stronger anabolics imagine if one guy makes 2 test cycles in a year and another 2 rad 140 cycles then they stop the one who did rad 140 will have more muscle

Dude the testosterone guy will 100% have more gains. Besides, even if we assume rad 140 is better it's not been studied at all. For all we know it could permenantly fuck your endocrine system.

 

[ItsOverCel]

Dude the testosterone guy will 100% have more gains.

this moron will only have water gains once he cycles off he will lose water and realize he has less muscle than the rad 140 guy

lol I literally don't even feel suppression from S-23+YK-11+LGD-4033 and my T went back to normal 2 weeks after the cycle SARMs are extremely easy on the HPTA

 

[Lonely]

this moron will only have water gains once he cycles off he will lose water and realize he has less muscle than the rad 140 guy

lol I literally don't even feel suppression from S-23+YK-11+LGD-4033 and my T went back to normal 2 weeks after the cycle SARMs are extremely easy on the HPTA

"Water gains" dude that makes no sense lol. Could you find me single study that supports this idea? Lmao dude people can easily gain several lbs of muscle on testosterone and IRS not water.

Even if you don't feel any issues right now, you have no clue what the long term side effects will be.

 

[Adonis]

Why would you put experimental anabolics that are most likely far less effective in humans with far greater possible side effects when you can just take testosterone with precautionary measures to limit its side effects and get amazing results?

You think orals are a good alternative to injectables if you don't wanna risk infections and are just afraid of needles?

 

[Lonely]

You think orals are a good alternative to injectables if you don't wanna risk infections and are just afraid of needles?

Orals suck ass and will rape your liver.

 

[ItsOverCel]

You think orals are a good alternative to injectables if you don't wanna risk infections and are just afraid of needles?

absolutely
test base is a myth

 

[Lonely]

absolutely
test base is a myth

I'm caging at your bad advice

 

[Adonis]

Orals suck ass and will rape your liver

But I read that anavar is not too bad against the liver

 

[Lonely]

But I read that anavar is not too bad against the liver

I mean you're free to do your own research. Most of my mentors who are experienced with roids tell me that orals are garbage.

 

[Mongrelcel]

if that's all you want there's no reason to risk it.

Other than not having the 4 or 5 years that's necessary for it?

if you roid when you're well below your natty capacity, then you wouldn't lose you a lot of your gains after you come off no?

 

[Orc]

Other than not having the 4 or 5 years that's necessary for it?

if you roid when you're well below your natty capacity, then you wouldn't lose you a lot of your gains after you come off no?

not much research available on it, from what I've heard you'll revert back to your natural limit if you've already got some years into training (if you're like 90% on the way there and the drugs will get you that 10% that's otherwise difficult to get unless you spend another 10 years training) because your natural production will be able to support it, but not if you blasted from the get go because your body won't be able to support it, because it's never had to support near that amount of mass indigenously.

 

[BoneDensity]

5th+ year of training

99% of people will never accomplish 5 years of consistent training. Also you will most likely exhaust your natural gains (looks wise) in 1.5 - 2 years of training maximum.

 

[Lonely]

99% of people will never accomplish 5 years of consistent training. Also you will most likely exhaust your natural gains (looks wise) in 1.5 - 2 years of training maximum.

This is simply untrue. There are tons of Natties on YouTube who looked "decent" in their first 2 years who went to "amazing" after 5 years. You can easily put on 10kg in Years 3-5 which is A LOT.

 

[BoneDensity]

This is simply untrue. There are tons of Natties on YouTube who looked "decent" in their first 2 years who went to "amazing" after 5 years. You can easily put on 10kg in Years 3-5 which is A LOT.

With proper guidance from a PT they could have done achieved those gains in 2 years. Most people do dumb shit in the beginning and don't hire PTs so they stagnate for years until they finally learn and catch up. I would say the only people who keep making visible gains for years and years are those who started as teenagers - and those gains are attributed to growing and not really the weightlifting.

 

[Lonely]

With proper guidance from a PT they could have done achieved those gains in 2 years. Most people do dumb shit in the beginning and don't hire PTs so they stagnate for years until they finally learn and catch up. I would say the only people who keep making visible gains for years and years are those who started as teenagers - and those gains are attributed to growing and not really the weightlifting.

You don't need a PT IMO just lift heavy on a good programme with a SHITTON of effort and consistency, eat well and sleep well and you WILL grow.

 

[BoneDensity]

You don't need a PT IMO just lift heavy on a good programme with a SHITTON of effort and consistency, eat well and sleep well and you WILL grow.

Sure, just not to the extent that you would when assisted by a professional.

 

[Lonely]

Sure, just not to the extent that you would when assisted by a professional.

What would having a professional change?

 

[BoneDensity]

What would having a professional change?

Provide a good plan, guarantee that you will stick to your training plan, and maximise effort in the gym. All things most gym goers struggle with so it takes them much longer to reach their potential.

 

[Lonely]

Provide a good plan, guarantee that you will stick to your training plan, and maximise effort in the gym. All things most gym goers struggle with so it takes them much longer to reach their potential.

Programme- just do 5/3/1 BBB

Consistency- just do it idk lol

Effort- just go to failure several times so you learn how to push yourself

 

[BoneDensity]

Consistency- just do it idk lol

Effort- just go to failure several times so you learn how to push yourself

In theory everything is this easy. The reality is most people aren't capable of that.

 

[Lonely]

In theory everything is this easy. The reality is most people aren't capable of that.

I've been hitting the gym 3-4x a week every week for the past 9 months without fail. Im the laziest person I know. If I can do it, anyone can.

 

[BoneDensity]

I've been hitting the gym 3-4x a week every week for the past 9 months without fail. Im the laziest person I know. If I can do it, anyone can.

Good for you. If anyone could do it then PTs wouldn't have jobs lol.

 

[Lonely]

Good for you. If anyone could do it then PTs wouldn't have jobs lol.

Maybe ig.

 

[Adonis]

I've been hitting the gym 3-4x a week every week for the past 9 months without fail. Im the laziest person I know. If I can do it, anyone can.

Yakhiiii .
Once you start it starts rolling.
Thats the hard part to start.

 

[Lonely]

Yakhiiii .
Once you start it starts rolling.
Thats the hard part to start.

Just watch a Andrew Tate motivational video

 

[jabaduk]

I see a lot of threads made by 15, 16, 17 year olds saying they wanna take steroids. You're all gonna fuck up your development for some muscles that you could've gotten naturally. If you're not in your 5th+ year of training don't even think about touching roids. Your training/ skill/ diet/ recovery will be so suboptimal you'll be wasting time, money and organ health by roiding. You won't get optimal results. It's like someone roiding whilst benching 1 plate. Like wtf lmao.

You get an amazing physique naturally. If you must take roids, wait until you finish puberty. And don't take SARMs.

What if I have shit genes u retard bitch? Don’t gaslight people into not taking roids, if u somehow manage to prevent hair loss on roids which is actually only serious side effect then literally go ahead, it’s ridiculous that u think there is even point of living past certain age, let’s say 30yo for men

 

[Lonely]

What if I have shit genes u retard bitch? Don’t gaslight people into not taking roids, if u somehow manage to prevent hair loss on roids which is actually only serious side effect then literally go ahead, it’s ridiculous that u think there is even point of living past certain age, let’s say 30yo for men

You can have a top 1% physique even if you have bottom 1% genetics within 3-4 years.

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

I think steroids positively changed my face tbh

 

[jabaduk]

You can have a top 1% physique even if you have bottom 1% genetics within 3-4 years.

I train since 2020 and i don’t look even top 50% physique, ectomorph plus low T levels I think I eat clean