PLEASE HELP WITH DOSAGE AND LENGHT OF CYCLE HIGH IQCELS

[ifuckinghatemyself]

Hey Dear org Users

its my first post on here so hello i hope you all are doing well so far

im currently 16 years old, need help with my first cycle, any serious help would really be appreciated and i apologize if my english isnt that well since it isnt my first language

I dont want to fuck myself up too much but this was my idea:

Somatropin (HGH) 4-6 IU daily, before sleep for at least 6 months, im tending to use 4/5 rather than 6+
Aromasin (dont know any better AI´s and dk how to dose it since i have heard a higher dosage can lead to preventing brain development, which i really dont want), ED
Test probably around 200mg, dont know if i should use test c or test e, will probably use test e though for maybe, this cycle would prob be around 10-12 weeks
Anavar I would use maybe 20-30mg since its my first cycle, dont know if i should use it though (at least for my first cycle), cycle prob around 6-8 weeks
MK-677 15mg Before sleep, for the span of which im using the hgh and AI

but for future cycles i thought about using substances like BPC-157 (may want to add that to my first stack as well), Retatrutide, Trenbolone (in REALLY low dosages) and some others but these are still just a thought

before i finalize my cycle i need to do further personal research, as well as looking if my growth plates are even open, ill do a wrist and knee xray for that since you can see in the wrist the first closure and in the knee the last (hope it made sense)

Further informations about me which could help with assisting me are: im around 5´8-5´10 (172-177cm), was overweight my whole life thats why im afraid i wont grow anymore since overweight leads to too much estrogen furthermore making my growth plates fuse early, i go 4x to the gym in an U/L split. also ive read on here that i shouldnt cut if im still in puberty and thats exactly what i did so im afraid it might be over, but hope dies last, right? Please guys it would mean so much to me if yall could help me out id appreciate it and sorry again for the yap session

 

[ifuckinghatemyself]

“Someone said” what a source

So it's total bs?

 

[irlgreycel]

So it's total bs?

Well you’re not sourcing anything, and I’ve legit never heard of this.

 

[ifuckinghatemyself]

Well you’re not sourcing anything, and I’ve legit never heard of this.

hghmeter13 said "your brain's your most important asset 100%. over looks or roids. wait till 25 atleast. it'll fuck up your prefrontal cortext for good." and idk if that's true or not yk?

 

[irlgreycel]

hghmeter13 said "your brain's your most important asset 100%. over looks or roids. wait till 25 atleast. it'll fuck up your prefrontal cortext for good." and idk if that's true or not yk?

it can alter your brain since you’re imbalancing your natural hormones, but you can only really cause long term damage if you are abusing

 

[ifuckinghatemyself]

it can alter your brain since you’re imbalancing your natural hormones, but you can only really cause long term damage if you are abusing

So 200mg is Safe? Should I use test c or e?

 

[irlgreycel]

So 200mg is Safe? Should I use test c or e?

Before I say anything you take seriously, do your own research! From what I’ve seen, yes, 200mg is safe for a beginning cycle, I’ve seen plenty of guys on BB forums suggest higher and people agree that higher is fine. I don’t know much about the two but most people do test ethante because I believe it is better.

 

[ifuckinghatemyself]

Before I say anything you take seriously, do your own research! From what I’ve seen, yes, 200mg is safe for a beginning cycle, I’ve seen plenty of guys on BB forums suggest higher and people agree that higher is fine. I don’t know much about the two but most people do test ethante because I believe it is better.

thank you bro like actually, i appreciate you and your help so much, i would possibly consider a higher dose but also adding the infos that this will be my first cycle and that im 16 i dont want to risk too much..

 

[Will_381231]

Someone said Test can get involved with brain development what about that?

yes because the primary endogenous male hormone is going to impair brain development, makes a lot of sense.

 

[Will_381231]

thank you bro like actually, i appreciate you and your help so much, i would possibly consider a higher dose but also adding the infos that this will be my first cycle and that im 16 i dont want to risk too much..

200mg is trt borderline "trt plus". your test is already high bro, theres no point on going on these low of dosages at 16. if youre gonna be roiding do 400+ for a "cycle" and 150-200 when youre cruising

 

[ifuckinghatemyself]

yes because the primary endogenous male hormone is going to impair brain development, makes a lot of sense.

Can't I somehow balance it out?

 

[ifuckinghatemyself]

200mg is trt borderline "trt plus". your test is already high bro, theres no point on going on these low of dosages at 16. if youre gonna be roiding do 400+ for a "cycle" and 150-200 when youre cruising

For how long 400+

 

[Will_381231]

Can't I somehow balance it out?

it was sarcasm. no offense but I don't think you know enough yet to start roiding. i'm roiding and i still am learning new shit all the time

 

[Will_381231]

For how long 400+

maybe.... 12-16 weeks? people stay on 300 year round. I'd recommend a moderate oral like anavar, or tbol to kickstart the cycle for 4-6 weeks then drop it.

 

[ifuckinghatemyself]

it was sarcasm. no offense but I don't think you know enough yet to start roiding. i'm roiding and i still am learning new shit all the time

My bad I'm tweaking, had to read the sentence multiple times im tired sorry bro, how's it been going for you? What do you take and what's your experience w it?

 

[ifuckinghatemyself]

maybe.... 12-16 weeks? people stay on 300 year round. I'd recommend a moderate oral like anavar, or tbol to kickstart the cycle for 4-6 weeks then drop it.

I've read var is stopping growth but if I find out my plates are closed I've been thinking of doing a var only cycle, idk much about tbol tho

 

[Will_381231]

I've read var is stopping growth but if I find out my plates are closed I've been thinking of doing a var only cycle, idk much about tbol tho

im sure you read a lot of things about roids and height. most of it is misinformation. I've heard some information about anavar boosting growth short term but reducing long term height outcome but never seen a study backing it. I promise you 4-6 weeks of literally any drug isn't gonna affect your height lmao

 

[ifuckinghatemyself]

im sure you read a lot of things about roids and height. most of it is misinformation. I've heard some information about anavar boosting growth short term but reducing long term height outcome but never seen a study backing it. I promise you 4-6 weeks of literally any drug isn't gonna affect your height lmao

Alright bro might as well just do a cycle w var only soon, thank you for your words I appreciate you bro

 

[Will_381231]

Alright bro might as well just do a cycle w var only soon, thank you for your words I appreciate you bro

thats what you extracted from my message is to go on a var only cycle? at what age, 16? thats fucking stupid. you are 100% better off with just test lmao

 

[ifuckinghatemyself]

thats what you extracted from my message is to go on a var only cycle? at what age, 16? thats fucking stupid. you are 100% better off with just test lmao

What cycle are you running and for what reasons

 

[Will_381231]

What cycle are you running and for what reasons

masculinization + gym

400mg test c (200mg 2x a week)
30-40mg tbol every day
12.5mg aromasin every day
15-20mg of mk for sleep and slight igf1 increase
20mg accutane

 

[ifuckinghatemyself]

Why are you using test c instead of test e? Isn't the Aromasin a high dose? Have you felt any Side effects yet? Did you see any improvements?

 

[ifuckinghatemyself]

Why are you using test c instead of test e? Isn't the Aromasin a high dose? Have you felt any Side effects yet? Did you see any improvements?

 

[irlgreycel]

maybe.... 12-16 weeks? people stay on 300 year round. I'd recommend a moderate oral like anavar, or tbol to kickstart the cycle for 4-6 weeks then drop it.

12–16 is fucking insane , first cycle 10 weeks max bro, unless you’re doing trt

 

[ifuckinghatemyself]

12–16 is fucking insane , first cycle 10 weeks max bro, unless you’re doing trt

Which one is better? Test or trt

 

[Will_381231]

12–16 is fucking insane , first cycle 10 weeks max bro, unless you’re doing trt

dude 12 weeks on 400mg is not a lot. im probably gonna stay on 400 until i cant

 

[ifuckinghatemyself]

How long would be a lot

dude 12 weeks on 400mg is not a lot. im probably gonna stay on 400 until i cant

 

[luke_]

dude 12 weeks on 400mg is not a lot. im probably gonna stay on 400 until i cant

How are you going to try and maintain fertility? Or is that not a concern?

 

[Will_381231]

How are you going to try and maintain fertility? Or is that not a concern?

gear is my only hope at reproducing either way

 

[Sachlichkeit]

HGH effectiveness compared to side effects increases non linearly past 6-8IUs ED. Non linear meaning the side effects begin to increase more than the results. Also half life of HGH is 20 hours so an AM PM 2 dose split ED is ideal but not necessary. If you are sticking with 1 dose I would do PM to mimic natural GH boost.

Use anastrazole arimidex. Letrozole is a nuclear AI, aromasin is the only steroidal AI and irreversibly binds to aromatase. This means, if you nuke your estrogen, which is bad, you can adjust your AI dose to fix it. If you use aromasin, you cannot.

MK sucks

Var 20mg low dose longer term use is good. Anavar increases height velocity at a rate that outpaces bone aging. typical cycle is 30mg 6weeks I would do 20mg 8 weeks because lower dose longer term cycles are more effective for growth

Test is in TRT range. maybe up to 300 mon thurs week split Test E. Up to you.

 

[ifuckinghatemyself]

HGH effectiveness compared to side effects increases non linearly past 6-8IUs ED. Non linear meaning the side effects begin to increase more than the results. Also half life of HGH is 20 hours so an AM PM 2 dose split ED is ideal but not necessary. If you are sticking with 1 dose I would do PM to mimic natural GH boost.

Use anastrazole arimidex. Letrozole is a nuclear AI, aromasin is the only steroidal AI and irreversibly binds to aromatase. This means, if you nuke your estrogen, which is bad, you can adjust your AI dose to fix it. If you use aromasin, you cannot.

MK sucks

Var 20mg low dose longer term use is good. Anavar increases height velocity at a rate that outpaces bone aging. typical cycle is 30mg 6weeks I would do 20mg 8 weeks because lower dose longer term cycles are more effective for growth

Test is in TRT range. maybe up to 300 mon thurs week split Test E. Up to you.

damn bro i appreciate it so much youre a legend, so what youre saying is:
6IU ED, optimal would be to do half-half AM and PM but if im using one dose just PM, would just before sleep work as well? if not why?

Anastrazole is better since I have better control over it

MK is cope

20mg 8weeks var

300mg Test E monday and tuesday

would you recommend anything else? id really appreciate more advice but youve already helped me so much thanks for that

 

[Sachlichkeit]

damn bro i appreciate it so much youre a legend, so what youre saying is:
6IU ED, optimal would be to do half-half AM and PM but if im using one dose just PM, would just before sleep work as well? if not why?

Anastrazole is better since I have better control over it

MK is cope

20mg 8weeks var

300mg Test E monday and tuesday

would you recommend anything else? id really appreciate more advice but youve already helped me so much thanks for that

just before bed might suppress endogenous GH produced during sleep. I would do 6iu AM or 3 IU AM PM. It honestly varies. For most people GH helps with sleep, for others it causes insomnia

 

[ifuckinghatemyself]

just before bed might suppress endogenous GH produced during sleep. I would do 6iu AM or 3 IU AM PM. It honestly varies. For most people GH helps with sleep, for others it causes insomnia

like AM just after waking up? or

 

[Sachlichkeit]

like AM just after waking up? or

doesnt matter dont overthink it

 

[luke_]

gear is my only hope at reproducing either way

What’s your pct plan?

 

[Will_381231]

What’s your pct plan?

im going to drink your moms piss after I fuck her and get her pregnant, it contains HCG

 

[luke_]

im going to drink your moms piss after I fuck her and get her pregnant, it contains HCG

You’re getting nobody pregnant with your almond sized nutsack, you can finish your cycle by eating my testosterone out of your mom’s swollen uterus. Grey

 

[xzx_]

Hey Dear org Users

its my first post on here so hello i hope you all are doing well so far

im currently 16 years old, need help with my first cycle, any serious help would really be appreciated and i apologize if my english isnt that well since it isnt my first language

I dont want to fuck myself up too much but this was my idea:

Somatropin (HGH) 4-6 IU daily, before sleep for at least 6 months, im tending to use 4/5 rather than 6+
Aromasin (dont know any better AI´s and dk how to dose it since i have heard a higher dosage can lead to preventing brain development, which i really dont want), ED
Test probably around 200mg, dont know if i should use test c or test e, will probably use test e though for maybe, this cycle would prob be around 10-12 weeks
Anavar I would use maybe 20-30mg since its my first cycle, dont know if i should use it though (at least for my first cycle), cycle prob around 6-8 weeks
MK-677 15mg Before sleep, for the span of which im using the hgh and AI

but for future cycles i thought about using substances like BPC-157 (may want to add that to my first stack as well), Retatrutide, Trenbolone (in REALLY low dosages) and some others but these are still just a thought

before i finalize my cycle i need to do further personal research, as well as looking if my growth plates are even open, ill do a wrist and knee xray for that since you can see in the wrist the first closure and in the knee the last (hope it made sense)

Further informations about me which could help with assisting me are: im around 5´8-5´10 (172-177cm), was overweight my whole life thats why im afraid i wont grow anymore since overweight leads to too much estrogen furthermore making my growth plates fuse early, i go 4x to the gym in an U/L split. also ive read on here that i shouldnt cut if im still in puberty and thats exactly what i did so im afraid it might be over, but hope dies last, right? Please guys it would mean so much to me if yall could help me out id appreciate it and sorry again for the yap session

DNR

 

[Will_381231]

You’re getting nobody pregnant with your almond sized nutsack, you can finish your cycle by eating my testosterone out of your mom’s swollen uterus. Grey

ur calling me a grey with literally 15 rep points. you're either ragebaiting or actually a stupid fucking grey who doesnt know what that word means,

 

[luke_]

ur calling me a grey with literally 15 rep points. you're either ragebaiting or actually a stupid fucking grey who doesnt know what that word means,

15 rep points lolol I’ll jump onto my main and we’ll see. Stupid fucking grey

 

[ifuckinghatemyself]

DNR

thats okay

 

[ifuckinghatemyself]

im going to drink your moms piss after I fuck her and get her pregnant, it contains HCG

why would you curse at someone, we are human beings we can just talk to each other on a normal level

 

[ifuckinghatemyself]

You’re getting nobody pregnant with your almond sized nutsack, you can finish your cycle by eating my testosterone out of your mom’s swollen uterus. Grey

please have respect for each other

 

[Sachlichkeit]

why would you curse at someone, we are human beings we can just talk to each other on a normal level

yeah be nice guys )))

 

[luke_]

why would you curse at someone, we are human beings we can just talk to each other on a normal level

Kindcel meets roid rage

 

[luke_]

im going to drink your moms piss after I fuck her and get her pregnant, it contains HCG

What actually is your pct plan? Or do you not have one? Do you care about your fertility that much? Please respond without the insults bro

 

[Will_381231]

What actually is your pct plan? Or do you not have one? Do you care about your fertility that much? Please respond without the insults bro

when i want to come off at a later age ill probably do hcg and stay off anabolics for life

 

[ifuckinghatemyself]

What actually is your pct plan? Or do you not have one? Do you care about your fertility that much? Please respond without the insults bro

Proud of you

 

[ifuckinghatemyself]

when i want to come off at a later age ill probably do hcg and stay off anabolics for life

Proud of you too

 

[Dave1]

Aromasin wont influence brain development, other AIs may but Aromasin won't because its estrogen supression is more moderate.
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(this was 25mg/50mg/ exemstane every day on healthy young males, ideally you should take it every other day.
Maximal estradiol suppression is 62 ± 14% on this study.
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Aromasin is also steroidal and very androgenic not just indirectly from estrogen supression but because of its active metabolity 17-hydroexemstane.
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It also pratically doubles free t.

oh shit didnt know that thx. mirin high iq