Please tell me whether my game is shit or if she just wasn't into me

[Deleted member 10782]

Very cute and fit Tinder match, definitely one of the best-looking girls I've dated. Would post pics but she literally blocked me on WA and deleted me from Tinder as soon as she left.

She agreed to come to my place for a drink. I'm 5'6", she was around 5'5". We chatted about usual stuff (work, family, hobbies) while sitting on my sofa. She was sitting away from me. Kino was hard, but I asked about her tattoos and rings and started touching her hands and shoulder (she had a tattoo there). Kept eye contact, vibe was generally calm. Teased her a bit a few times about her age/job/looks but she didn't react very positively to it, she seemed more on the sensitive/defensive side of things even if she knew I was teasing.

After 25-30 minutes of chatting, I told her to come closer. As she did, she said "Are we doing this? I might need more alcohol first.". I didn't say anything, pulled her, and we made out for about 10 seconds. I was going to pull away but she did first. My arm was around her, and when we finished she jumped back to her original sitting location saying "I'm not that much of a touchy feely person.".

We chatted for around other 15-20 minutes, she was quite boring and didn't really ask many follow up questions. I tried to be a bit more caveman and take the cider bottle out of her hands to pull her closer again, but she gripped tight onto it. Then she said "To be honest, I am not really feeling it.". I expected it, and said "No worries, it was nice talking to you then".

She looked a bit dumbstruck and frozen in place. I told her "No need to rush, I'm not kicking you out. Take your time." and started texting another chick on my phone to meet (a regular, way uglier, but DTF).

Then she got up and said something like "It's not your fault, you're nice and I like you". I replied with "OK, no problem". She then said "I came here with an open mind... I am not ready to jump into something physical. I already have something physical with somebody I trust and I need to trust somebody to get there." , and that kind of bothered me, as she implied I was not trustworthy or some shit like that. I told her "Look, it's fine if you don't feel attracted or if you're not feeling it, but there's no need to say stuff like that about trust. I know it doesn't matter." She didn't reply, I escorted her to the door, said bye, and she left.

Literally 2 minutes after she left she deleted me from Tinder and blocked me on WhatsApp.

Now, my questions are:
- Does my game fucking suck?
- Should I have done anything different?
- Is it my fault?

I would honestly feel better knowing that I acted decently, and she simply wasn't that attracted. But is that coping?
What if she actually needed a bit of more trust and rapport? What if she would have smashed on date two, if I ended this one without attempting to escalate again?

This is what kills me. The lack of knowledge. The possibility that I wasted an opportunity due to my actions and not due to my looks.

Judging from my post, do you think I did poorly? Or that it was just out of my control due to the way I look?

 

[Deleted member 9274]

Dn read you arent chad bro thats always the answer

 

[Deleted member 10782]

Dn read you arent chad bro thats always the answer

What if that is cope and our actions are just bad?

 

[Deleted member 9274]

What if that is cope and our actions are just bad?

Then i would need to read the thread and I'm tired tbh. It's obvious that it's quite difficult to read a females behaviour if we arent taking looks into account.

 

[Deleted member 6403]

Rape is the answer (in gta 5)

 

[Deleted member 10782]

Then i would need to read the thread and I'm tired tbh. It's obvious that it's quite difficult to read a females behaviour if we arent taking looks into account.

OK, read it tomorrow then. We are definitely taking looks into account... but I think it's cope to say it's all looks, especially because she made out with me once.

 

[Deleted member 9048]

she just doesn't want sex

 

[Deleted member 9274]

OK, read it tomorrow then. We are definitely taking looks into account... but I think it's cope to say it's all looks, especially because she made out with me once.

Im leaving tomorrow lol, but good luck

 

[Deleted member 10782]

she just doesn't want sex

with me

 

[Deleted member 10782]

Im leaving tomorrow lol, but good luck

Then read it now

 

[Deleted member 10709]

I'm 5'6"

Brutal.

 

[Deleted member 11053]

There is no game

 

[Deleted member 11053]

Chad is the game

 

[fras]

 

[Deleted member 10782]

Chad is the game

I don't understand whether I'm coping or everyone on this forum is coping.

I get laid quite frequently with 5/10s and 6/10s. But anything above seems almost impossible. I've only got laid with 7/10s 2-3 times in my life. Can it really be just looks? Or am I making too many mistakes that 5s and 6s do not care about, but 7s get turned off by?

 

[Deleted member 11053]

I don't understand whether I'm coping or everyone on this forum is coping.

I get laid quite frequently with 5/10s and 6/10s. But anything above seems almost impossible. I've only got laid with 7/10s 2-3 times in my life. Can it really be just looks? Or am I making too many mistakes that 5s and 6s do not care about, but 7s get turned off by?

Idk, all i know is that game is bs and don't exist just be yourself if it dont work you just wasn't gl enough

 

[IdiAmin]

The fuck did you told her about this trustworthy shit? You're worried if you are trustworthy to some random chick, lmao, she came to your place, if she didn’t trust you, she wouldn't have come

 

[Copeful]

Dn read you arent chad bro thats always the answer

Brutal.

he has 51 slays

 

[IdiAmin]

I think she probably came to your place because the guy she hooked up with wasn't available and she was bored, so she came to you

 

[Deleted member 2632]

What if that is cope and our actions are just bad?

Bro Im legit laughing my fucking ass

What are you redpilled?

There is no logic to foids

You can mog her to the moon, you can make her cum several times, she can be insecure around you and tell you can do better

And then bam, she ghosts, and you never see her again

Women are chaotic emotional and completely unstable in this Jew society

Its like observing how a child misbehaves and wondering what you could have said different?

Nothing, sometimes you must use force and establish your dominance over the child, the little kid is not logically as sound as you an adult male, he is an emotional and illogical being, you must USE FORCE then the child will understand to respect you, and next time he will listen

 

[eduardkoopman]

Kino was hard,

WTF, the word choice. LOL

I need to trust somebody to get there." , and that kind of bothered me, as she implied I was not trustworthy or some shit like that. I told her "Look, it's fine if you don't feel attracted or if you're not feeling it, but there's no need to say stuff like that about trust. I know it doesn't matter."

I don't like this paragdigm, of a dude fucking up, when he is not having sex with 1 particular woman.
But above thingy, is weak. to get ofended if someone says need time to trust.
Would one be offended, if a a boss on the first day of trial period said he needs some time to see of you are trustworthy worker?
i assume not. it's kinda the same, imo.

She didn't reply, I escorted her to the door, said bye, and she left.

Literally 2 minutes after she left she deleted me from Tinder and blocked me on WhatsApp.

Now, my questions are:
- Does my game fucking suck?
- Should I have done anything different?
- Is it my fault?

I would honestly feel better knowing that I acted decently, and she simply wasn't that attracted. But is that coping?
What if she actually needed a bit of more trust and rapport? What if she would have smashed on date two, if I ended this one without attempting to escalate again?

This is what kills me. The lack of knowledge. The possibility that I wasted an opportunity due to my actions and not due to my looks.

Judging from my post, do you think I did poorly? Or that it was just out of my control due to the way I look?

Would she had been a sexual encounter in the future. If you didn't get butthurt about her saying needs time for trust?
Hard to say. I dunno.
She could as easy been a time waist, as something that would lead to something.

 

[N1c]

Game is a cope

 

[Deleted member 10782]

But above thingy, is weak. to get ofended if someone says need time to trust.

I didn't get offended because of that, I got offended because it frankly felt like bullshit. At that moment I thought "bet she wouldn't care about 'trust' if I was chad", so it just felt like she wanted to virtue signal or some shit like that. Also because she said "it's not you, it's not your fault", again it seems condescending

 

[eduardkoopman]

I didn't get offended because of that, I got offended because it frankly felt like bullshit. At that moment I thought "bet she wouldn't care about 'trust' if I was chad", so it just felt like she wanted to virtue signal or some shit like that. Also because she said "it's not you, it's not your fault", again it seems condescending

As you know also. if she doesn't see you as Chad, one will be subject to rules or other things that need to be in place (trust, mood, balbla bla).
You may also be perfectly right; that she was coming up with bs reasons.
And everything would be a waiste of time anyways,

you can know best.
becaus you can see her tone, expession, body language, and stuffs like that. All we see, is a bunch of letter in a screen, of you painting a bried picture and scenario.

 

[Vitruvian]

Congratulations, u met ur first fatherless whore.

why are u on tinder? Why do u feel insecure and need a whores attention? What is ur relationship with ur parents? Are u trying hard to be a leader in ur life?

Experience is the best teacher and im sorry it didn’t work out with this slut. If u still think u need it, try again, but i would advice rethinking

 

[gaymidget]

Imagine being 5'6 lol, its over

 

[everythingisacope]

Very cute and fit Tinder match, definitely one of the best-looking girls I've dated. Would post pics but she literally blocked me on WA and deleted me from Tinder as soon as she left.

She agreed to come to my place for a drink. I'm 5'6", she was around 5'5". We chatted about usual stuff (work, family, hobbies) while sitting on my sofa. She was sitting away from me. Kino was hard, but I asked about her tattoos and rings and started touching her hands and shoulder (she had a tattoo there). Kept eye contact, vibe was generally calm. Teased her a bit a few times about her age/job/looks but she didn't react very positively to it, she seemed more on the sensitive/defensive side of things even if she knew I was teasing.

After 25-30 minutes of chatting, I told her to come closer. As she did, she said "Are we doing this? I might need more alcohol first.". I didn't say anything, pulled her, and we made out for about 10 seconds. I was going to pull away but she did first. My arm was around her, and when we finished she jumped back to her original sitting location saying "I'm not that much of a touchy feely person.".

We chatted for around other 15-20 minutes, she was quite boring and didn't really ask many follow up questions. I tried to be a bit more caveman and take the cider bottle out of her hands to pull her closer again, but she gripped tight onto it. Then she said "To be honest, I am not really feeling it.". I expected it, and said "No worries, it was nice talking to you then".

She looked a bit dumbstruck and frozen in place. I told her "No need to rush, I'm not kicking you out. Take your time." and started texting another chick on my phone to meet (a regular, way uglier, but DTF).

Then she got up and said something like "It's not your fault, you're nice and I like you". I replied with "OK, no problem". She then said "I came here with an open mind... I am not ready to jump into something physical. I already have something physical with somebody I trust and I need to trust somebody to get there." , and that kind of bothered me, as she implied I was not trustworthy or some shit like that. I told her "Look, it's fine if you don't feel attracted or if you're not feeling it, but there's no need to say stuff like that about trust. I know it doesn't matter." She didn't reply, I escorted her to the door, said bye, and she left.

Literally 2 minutes after she left she deleted me from Tinder and blocked me on WhatsApp.

Now, my questions are:
- Does my game fucking suck?
- Should I have done anything different?
- Is it my fault?

I would honestly feel better knowing that I acted decently, and she simply wasn't that attracted. But is that coping?
What if she actually needed a bit of more trust and rapport? What if she would have smashed on date two, if I ended this one without attempting to escalate again?

This is what kills me. The lack of knowledge. The possibility that I wasted an opportunity due to my actions and not due to my looks.

Judging from my post, do you think I did poorly? Or that it was just out of my control due to the way I look?

I everythingiscope pill you again yet you dont want to listen to me again after already saying this once in your other thread.you are not that attractive for this kind of behaviour, stay non reactive without giving fucks and u might get a reward.....or maybe wont but with this type of behaviour you portray you sure are more likely to fail tbh

 

[Uglyandfat]

am not ready to jump into something physical. I already have something physical with somebody I trust and I need to trust somebody to get there.

She either is using you to cope with the fact that the person she's hooking up with doesnt want her anymore or she's an abused dog with major trust issues either way your looks dont seem like the issue here

 

[everythingisacope]

I don't understand whether I'm coping or everyone on this forum is coping.

I get laid quite frequently with 5/10s and 6/10s. But anything above seems almost impossible. I've only got laid with 7/10s 2-3 times in my life. Can it really be just looks? Or am I making too many mistakes that 5s and 6s do not care about, but 7s get turned off by?

you are not gl enough for 7/10,too short and your game isnt perfect that id why u dont smash 7/10 "bro", you either stay happy with 5s or 6s or ntmaxx,seductionmaxx flawlessly or some cope like that and never make a single mistake

 

[Uglyandfat]

you are not gl enough for 7/10,too short and your game isnt perfect that id why u dont smash 7/10 "bro", you either stay happy with 5s or 6s or ntmaxx,seductionmaxx flawlessly or some cope like that and never make a single mistake

looks are the initial and main attraction doesn't mean other factors cant turn her off (though the more better looking you are the less likely its going to happen)

 

[tyronelite]

I'm not that much of a touchy feely person.

Cap. She's on tinder, she's fucking. Just not you

you're nice

Brutal...

I am not ready to jump into something physical

Again cap..

she deleted me from Tinder and blocked me

She was never truly attracted to you in the first place my dude I'm sorry.

Also why didn't you answer when she said "are we doing this?" "I might need alcohol first"?

Sounds like she needed to get a lil intoxicated before getting physical with you cuz she's not attracted to you sober.

 

[everythingisacope]

Cap. She's on tinder, she's fucking. Just not you

Brutal...

Again cap..

She was never truly attracted to you in the first place my dude I'm sorry.

Also why didn't you answer when she said "are we doing this?" "I might need alcohol first"?

Sounds like she needed to get a lil intoxicated before getting physical with you cuz she's not attracted to you sober.

Sounds like she needed to get a lil intoxicated before getting physical with you cuz she's not attracted to you sober.



wow.brooooooooooooooooooooooooooootal I never saw it that way and I still do believe it's like not always the case she might also be high inhib with strangers,etc

 

[eduardkoopman]

Imagine being 5'6 lol, its over

he has good face + body. So it's not over for him, just difficult with women that have high standards including height standards.

 

[PYT]

Cap. She's on tinder, she's fucking. Just not you

Brutal...

Again cap..

She was never truly attracted to you in the first place my dude I'm sorry.

Also why didn't you answer when she said "are we doing this?" "I might need alcohol first"?

Sounds like she needed to get a lil intoxicated before getting physical with you cuz she's not attracted to you sober.

Why would she go to his house with a complete stranger who would may or may not possibly rape her if she denied


Not making sense to me

 

[tyronelite]

Sounds like she needed to get a lil intoxicated before getting physical with you cuz she's not attracted to you sober.



wow.brooooooooooooooooooooooooooootal I never saw it that way and I still do believe it's like not always the case she might also be high inhib with strangers,etc

Agreed, it's not always the case. The more nervous they are the more likely they'll drink or smoke a lil bit to lower their anxiety, inhibition, etc.

She probably got awkward vibes from OP cuz he didn't even answer her question and immediately started making out with her. His game is lackin IMO. If she really liked him why would she delete him & block him instead of coming back another night?

 

[tyronelite]

Why would she go to his house with a complete stranger who would may or may not possibly rape her if she denied


Not making sense to me

Denied what exactly?

 

[PYT]

Denied what exactly?

Sex

 

[everythingisacope]

Agreed, it's not always the case. The more nervous they are the more likely they'll drink or smoke a lil bit to lower their anxiety, inhibition, etc.

She probably got awkward vibes from OP cuz he didn't even answer her question and immediately started making out with her. His game is lackin IMO. If she really liked him why would she delete him & block him instead of coming back another night?

I everythingiscope pill you again yet you dont want to listen to me again after already saying this once in your other thread.you are not that attractive for this kind of behaviour, stay non reactive without giving fucks and u might get a reward.....or maybe wont but with this type of behaviour you portray you sure are more likely to fail tbh

you are not gl enough for 7/10,too short and your game isnt perfect that id why u dont smash 7/10 "bro", you either stay happy with 5s or 6s or ntmaxx,seductionmaxx flawlessly or some cope like that and never make a single mistake

this what I also told him, he is not ugly but also not some stud, a manlet but at least a good body and he comes off as tryhard with some of his threads he makes here asking for game, like you can see that he tries to go "cocky" or "ballsy" but that simply is worth 0 without chad looks

 

[medialcanthuscel]

I don't understand whether I'm coping or everyone on this forum is coping.

I get laid quite frequently with 5/10s and 6/10s. But anything above seems almost impossible. I've only got laid with 7/10s 2-3 times in my life. Can it really be just looks? Or am I making too many mistakes that 5s and 6s do not care about, but 7s get turned off by?

It's all about looks

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This chad always have sex at first date
You are lucky that you don't live in Italy, in Italy with your looks you would be incel

 

[tyronelite]

Sex

Cuz OP didn't specifically tell her he wanted to fuck. She asked OP "are we doing this" and OP said "I didn't say anything, pulled her, and we made out for about 10 seconds" what do you think she's thinking in that moment? This dude might be a psycho, he might rape me, etc.

She was definitely nervous & OP didn't make her feel comfortable & safe. The whole interaction sounds like OP tried to force her.

I'm curious to see what his tinder messages before she came over. I keep telling y'all if you're not direct & clear with your intentions, women will use plausible deniability 10/10 so they don't feel like they made the choice.

I know women who go to dudes house just to drink, talk, and then leave. Why? Because the dude never made it clear he wanted to smash throughout the whole night. If you're indirect & vague/ambigious women will always play games unless they're really into you. It's a 50/50 bet.

 

[tyronelite]

this what I also told him, he is not ugly but also not some stud, a manlet but at least a good body and he comes off as tryhard with some of his threads he makes here asking for game, like you can see that he tries to go "cocky" or "ballsy" but that simply is worth 0 without chad looks

Yeah I'm gettin tired tryna help these guys out. They'll always be stuck on "If only I was _ PSL or had _ looks" she would be all over me & all my problems would go away.

Not factoring how was their behavior in the interaction? Did they come off nervous, hesitant, anxious, etc? Women can sniff all this stuff out cuz they've seen it COUNTLESS times. Doesn't matter how good looking or ugly you are.

 

[Lorsss]

how you attract girls is out of your control

 

[Deleted member 4797]

'After 25-30 minutes of chatting, I told her to come closer. As she did, she said "Are we doing this? I might need more alcohol first.". I didn't say anything, pulled her, and we made out for about 10 seconds.'

You need to practise the art of rejecting girls sexual advances to make them more horny for you. When she said this "Are we doing this? I might need more alcohol first." You could say, 'doing what?' then your forcing her to say sex, or she will say some other bullshit, but either way you can make her vulnerable to a rejection, then reject her. Once you've rejected her, like telling her to take it easy or that you wanna talk first, she will crave only sex to prove she can get it from you.

Fake rejecting is very powerful over women, try that next time.

And did you try the style I told you in PM last time we talked, with any girls yet?

 

[LilHappyLilSad]

Rape is the answer (in gta 5)

Painful Truth (in gta 5)

 

[Deleted member 10686]

'After 25-30 minutes of chatting, I told her to come closer. As she did, she said "Are we doing this? I might need more alcohol first.". I didn't say anything, pulled her, and we made out for about 10 seconds.'

You need to practise the art of rejecting girls sexual advances to make them more horny for you. When she said this "Are we doing this? I might need more alcohol first." You could say, 'doing what?' then your forcing her to say sex, or she will say some other bullshit, but either way you can make her vulnerable to a rejection, then reject her. Once you've rejected her, like telling her to take it easy or that you wanna talk first, she will crave only sex to prove she can get it from you.

Fake rejecting is very powerful over women, try that next time.

And did you try the style I told you in PM last time we talked, with any girls yet?

nigga whered did u learn that shi

 

[Deleted member 8016]

If you want to slay 7+ chicks you'll need more than 30min chit-chat on a couch. Especially because you are average looking. When she pushed you back the first tile it was a clear sign that you had to upgrade your game. If she was craving for dick you would have felt that she pushed you back just to make you wait more and become crazy for her. But reading your post it really looks like she wasn't into you. I know below average looking guys that fucked high psl girls by working on them for a longer time than just one date

 

[Golgo13]

I didn't get offended because of that, I got offended because it frankly felt like bullshit. At that moment I thought "bet she wouldn't care about 'trust' if I was chad", so it just felt like she wanted to virtue signal or some shit like that. Also because she said "it's not you, it's not your fault", again it seems condescending

You did the right thing, similar thing happened to me before i kicked her out i didnt do it in a polite way either but she called me again a couple months later and got two lays off of it

 

[Golgo13]

If you want to slay 7+ chicks you'll need more than 30min chit-chat on a couch. Especially because you are average looking. When she pushed you back the first tile it was a clear sign that you had to upgrade your game. If she was craving for dick you would have felt that she pushed you back just to make you wait more and become crazy for her. But reading your post it really looks like she wasn't into you. I know below average looking guys that fucked high psl girls by working on them for a longer time than just one date

True, game is real and you have to cook them for a while before you go for the kill, unless you are Chad that is

 

[Deleted member 4797]

nigga whered did u learn that shi

Patrice O'Neal mainly his Black Phillip Show episodes, reading a few pimp books and watching some documentaries, some practise irl and testing what works, and also observing what works from other dudes who are already successful.

 

[BigBoy]

Cap. She's on tinder, she's fucking. Just not you

Brutal...

Again cap..

She was never truly attracted to you in the first place my dude I'm sorry.

Also why didn't you answer when she said "are we doing this?" "I might need alcohol first"?

Sounds like she needed to get a lil intoxicated before getting physical with you cuz she's not attracted to you sober.

Are you sure its because she wasnt atttacted to him? Or was it because she wasnt comfortable with him because he took it fast? Is it normal to make out in the first 20 minutes? I know "youre supposed to watch what she does and not listen to what she says", but idk. Im not good with women and I would have taken that as face value.