Please tell me whether my game is shit or if she just wasn't into me

Are you sure its because she wasnt atttacted to him? Or was it because she wasnt comfortable with him because he took it fast? Is it normal to make out in the first 20 minutes? I know "youre supposed to watch what she does and not listen to what she says", but idk. Im not good with women and I would have taken that as face value.
It's both. You're right he took it too fast but at the same time she wasn't TRULY attracted because like he said she unmatched & blocked him. She would've just came back the 2nd time
 
Not your fault 100% sounds like she’s been traumatised from previous relationships. You probably could’ve gotten her after a few dates. Girls are just like that some are hard to get and some go down on the first date. Unless it’s your specifically meeting to fuck then it’s a different. Sounds like she was embarrassed but def not your fault
 
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she wasn't into you
 
Very cute and fit Tinder match, definitely one of the best-looking girls I've dated. Would post pics but she literally blocked me on WA and deleted me from Tinder as soon as she left.

She agreed to come to my place for a drink. I'm 5'6", she was around 5'5". We chatted about usual stuff (work, family, hobbies) while sitting on my sofa. She was sitting away from me. Kino was hard, but I asked about her tattoos and rings and started touching her hands and shoulder (she had a tattoo there). Kept eye contact, vibe was generally calm. Teased her a bit a few times about her age/job/looks but she didn't react very positively to it, she seemed more on the sensitive/defensive side of things even if she knew I was teasing.

After 25-30 minutes of chatting, I told her to come closer. As she did, she said "Are we doing this? I might need more alcohol first.". I didn't say anything, pulled her, and we made out for about 10 seconds. I was going to pull away but she did first. My arm was around her, and when we finished she jumped back to her original sitting location saying "I'm not that much of a touchy feely person.".

We chatted for around other 15-20 minutes, she was quite boring and didn't really ask many follow up questions. I tried to be a bit more caveman and take the cider bottle out of her hands to pull her closer again, but she gripped tight onto it. Then she said "To be honest, I am not really feeling it.". I expected it, and said "No worries, it was nice talking to you then".

She looked a bit dumbstruck and frozen in place. I told her "No need to rush, I'm not kicking you out. Take your time." and started texting another chick on my phone to meet (a regular, way uglier, but DTF).

Then she got up and said something like "It's not your fault, you're nice and I like you". I replied with "OK, no problem". She then said "I came here with an open mind... I am not ready to jump into something physical. I already have something physical with somebody I trust and I need to trust somebody to get there." , and that kind of bothered me, as she implied I was not trustworthy or some shit like that. I told her "Look, it's fine if you don't feel attracted or if you're not feeling it, but there's no need to say stuff like that about trust. I know it doesn't matter." She didn't reply, I escorted her to the door, said bye, and she left.

Literally 2 minutes after she left she deleted me from Tinder and blocked me on WhatsApp.

Now, my questions are:
- Does my game fucking suck?
- Should I have done anything different?
- Is it my fault?

I would honestly feel better knowing that I acted decently, and she simply wasn't that attracted. But is that coping?
What if she actually needed a bit of more trust and rapport? What if she would have smashed on date two, if I ended this one without attempting to escalate again?

This is what kills me. The lack of knowledge. The possibility that I wasted an opportunity due to my actions and not due to my looks.

Judging from my post, do you think I did poorly? Or that it was just out of my control due to the way I look?
your game sucks, should have build more comfort first, could have taken it slower again.
She probably got pissed off on her "guy" or smth so she wanted to bang someone else but you didn't manage to do that shit right.
Are we doing this? I might need more alcohol first.". litterally told you to make her more comfortable by having some more alcohol because she was a bit scared.


You are a lot like me, but she is a person, don't be a fucking asshole and you will get laid more ;)
Be cocky, confident, not give a shit but dont be a dipshit.
She is a person treat her like a person.


I had same with a gorgeous girl(23y old), she invited me over we had some rum, we started making out and she said "im not in the mood yet i need more alcohol", so we had a bit more rum and i took it a bit slower, later on we smashed and it was amazing.


On other note i had a girl(30) come over that i was not attracted that much to, and we started making out, and i try to push the issue because can't be botherd unless we fuck, she said:"i dont feel the vibe, i can leave if you want" and i told her to leave.
But she was average anw so didn't really care too much.



You win some you lose some. can't really tell you where you fucked up because i wasn't there.
Maybe you were nervous as well because she was hot so it made her nervous as well.
 
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It's both. You're right he took it too fast but at the same time she wasn't TRULY attracted because like he said she unmatched & blocked him. She would've just came back the 2nd time
i have girls regularly unmatch and delete/block me when i make out with them on the first date because it spikes their "anti slut defence". "omg omg i just made out with this guy and i know him for an hour, better delete his number and block him so i don't sleep with him".
same for some girls if she fucks you on 1st date.
 
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I get laid quite frequently with 5/10s and 6/10s. But anything above seems almost impossible. I've only got laid with 7/10s 2-3 times in my life.
If you want to slay 7+ chicks you'll need more than 30min chit-chat on a couch. Especially because you are average looking. When she pushed you back the first tile it was a clear sign that you had to upgrade your game. If she was craving for dick you would have felt that she pushed you back just to make you wait more and become crazy for her. But reading your post it really looks like she wasn't into you. I know below average looking guys that fucked high psl girls by working on them for a longer time than just one date
This is the answer OP.

A women thats a 7 or simply good looking has many many options, you know that. Shes not looking for a dude thats trying to act like a chad, she wants a guys thats a NATURAL.

Was you game problem? Yes - yes, but the mistakes were in the details, which will take you ages to figure out.

Honestly you are playing the wrong game bro - why focus on tinder sluts? Thats not the best avenue even for a gigachad. They are literally just trash. Trying to figure out what works and what doesent is a wase of time. Do you want to calibrate your persoanlity for these types of girls?

She could sense that youre not into it, she could sense that there is no connection between you and that the vibe isnt there. But if it isnt there, its super difficult to artificially induce it - which is the whole point of game. Faking it. Youre trying to fake your "alpha traits" youre trying to fake the vibe and fake your way into her pants.

This will never work with high quality women. Never. No matter how good your game is, there simply isnt a magical formula of words that you say and the girl will be yours. Socially fluent people will see right trough you. Honestly, I have 0 fucking idea how do these tinder whores get fooled. Must be autistic or insecure or smth...

I suggest you uninstall tinder (or at least stop trying to get the good looking girls off there), and build up a social circle, or find out some NATURAL way you can meet lots of high quality women IRL, where you can build actual relationships instead of trying to prefect the way you bag a tinder slut.
 
I don't understand whether I'm coping or everyone on this forum is coping.

I get laid quite frequently with 5/10s and 6/10s. But anything above seems almost impossible. I've only got laid with 7/10s 2-3 times in my life. Can it really be just looks? Or am I making too many mistakes that 5s and 6s do not care about, but 7s get turned off by?
The higher the quality girl the less mistakes you can make, the better you look the more mistakes you can make.

I could open tinder and invite girls who are 5 to my place to bang fucking easy. But i go for 7-8s so i have to take them on a date first, i tried inviting them directly to my place, works almost never but when i take them for a date(coffee/walking) if i find her attractive in person and go for her, chances are 40 % that i will bang her because i push for 1st date bang, if i went for 2nd date bang i'd probably do 60-70%.
But if i did no mistakes and played everything perfectly i go on a date with a girl that is obviously attracted to me(she swipped right duh and wants to go on a date) and chances should be like 95% to bang on 2nd date. I don't do everything perfectly tho.




Don't make stupid mistakes and you will be doing good.
 
This is the answer OP.

A women thats a 7 or simply good looking has many many options, you know that. Shes not looking for a dude thats trying to act like a chad, she wants a guys thats a NATURAL.

Was you game problem? Yes - yes, but the mistakes were in the details, which will take you ages to figure out.

Honestly you are playing the wrong game bro - why focus on tinder sluts? Thats not the best avenue even for a gigachad. They are literally just trash. Trying to figure out what works and what doesent is a wase of time. Do you want to calibrate your persoanlity for these types of girls?

She could sense that youre not into it, she could sense that there is no connection between you and that the vibe isnt there. But if it isnt there, its super difficult to artificially induce it - which is the whole point of game. Faking it. Youre trying to fake your "alpha traits" youre trying to fake the vibe and fake your way into her pants.

This will never work with high quality women. Never. No matter how good your game is, there simply isnt a magical formula of words that you say and the girl will be yours. Socially fluent people will see right trough you. Honestly, I have 0 fucking idea how do these tinder whores get fooled. Must be autistic or insecure or smth...

I suggest you uninstall tinder (or at least stop trying to get the good looking girls off there), and build up a social circle, or find out some NATURAL way you can meet lots of high quality women IRL, where you can build actual relationships instead of trying to prefect the way you bag a tinder slut.
i banged 7-8s off tinder and still am banging them.
tinder does drop in quality compared to real life BUT you can get 7-8s off tinder/etc if you know what the fuck you doing. You might occasionally get a 9 but thats not the norm.
Alternative is going out clubbing or social circle but now its fucking lockdown shit so where to fuck you gonna get some ?
But true i am not "natural" but i became what you call natural because i went on like 300+ dates so its like a walk in the park tbh.


Tinder/other dating apps girls are litterally the same you gonna meet on the streets /clubbing etc
 
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Very cute and fit Tinder match, definitely one of the best-looking girls I've dated. Would post pics but she literally blocked me on WA and deleted me from Tinder as soon as she left.

She agreed to come to my place for a drink. I'm 5'6", she was around 5'5". We chatted about usual stuff (work, family, hobbies) while sitting on my sofa. She was sitting away from me. Kino was hard, but I asked about her tattoos and rings and started touching her hands and shoulder (she had a tattoo there). Kept eye contact, vibe was generally calm. Teased her a bit a few times about her age/job/looks but she didn't react very positively to it, she seemed more on the sensitive/defensive side of things even if she knew I was teasing.

After 25-30 minutes of chatting, I told her to come closer. As she did, she said "Are we doing this? I might need more alcohol first.". I didn't say anything, pulled her, and we made out for about 10 seconds. I was going to pull away but she did first. My arm was around her, and when we finished she jumped back to her original sitting location saying "I'm not that much of a touchy feely person.".

We chatted for around other 15-20 minutes, she was quite boring and didn't really ask many follow up questions. I tried to be a bit more caveman and take the cider bottle out of her hands to pull her closer again, but she gripped tight onto it. Then she said "To be honest, I am not really feeling it.". I expected it, and said "No worries, it was nice talking to you then".

She looked a bit dumbstruck and frozen in place. I told her "No need to rush, I'm not kicking you out. Take your time." and started texting another chick on my phone to meet (a regular, way uglier, but DTF).

Then she got up and said something like "It's not your fault, you're nice and I like you". I replied with "OK, no problem". She then said "I came here with an open mind... I am not ready to jump into something physical. I already have something physical with somebody I trust and I need to trust somebody to get there." , and that kind of bothered me, as she implied I was not trustworthy or some shit like that. I told her "Look, it's fine if you don't feel attracted or if you're not feeling it, but there's no need to say stuff like that about trust. I know it doesn't matter." She didn't reply, I escorted her to the door, said bye, and she left.

Literally 2 minutes after she left she deleted me from Tinder and blocked me on WhatsApp.

Now, my questions are:
- Does my game fucking suck?
- Should I have done anything different?
- Is it my fault?

I would honestly feel better knowing that I acted decently, and she simply wasn't that attracted. But is that coping?
What if she actually needed a bit of more trust and rapport? What if she would have smashed on date two, if I ended this one without attempting to escalate again?

This is what kills me. The lack of knowledge. The possibility that I wasted an opportunity due to my actions and not due to my looks.

Judging from my post, do you think I did poorly? Or that it was just out of my control due to the way I look?
You have a low trust face, total mogger
 
Very cute and fit Tinder match, definitely one of the best-looking girls I've dated. Would post pics but she literally blocked me on WA and deleted me from Tinder as soon as she left.

She agreed to come to my place for a drink. I'm 5'6", she was around 5'5". We chatted about usual stuff (work, family, hobbies) while sitting on my sofa. She was sitting away from me. Kino was hard, but I asked about her tattoos and rings and started touching her hands and shoulder (she had a tattoo there). Kept eye contact, vibe was generally calm. Teased her a bit a few times about her age/job/looks but she didn't react very positively to it, she seemed more on the sensitive/defensive side of things even if she knew I was teasing.

After 25-30 minutes of chatting, I told her to come closer. As she did, she said "Are we doing this? I might need more alcohol first.". I didn't say anything, pulled her, and we made out for about 10 seconds. I was going to pull away but she did first. My arm was around her, and when we finished she jumped back to her original sitting location saying "I'm not that much of a touchy feely person.".

We chatted for around other 15-20 minutes, she was quite boring and didn't really ask many follow up questions. I tried to be a bit more caveman and take the cider bottle out of her hands to pull her closer again, but she gripped tight onto it. Then she said "To be honest, I am not really feeling it.". I expected it, and said "No worries, it was nice talking to you then".

She looked a bit dumbstruck and frozen in place. I told her "No need to rush, I'm not kicking you out. Take your time." and started texting another chick on my phone to meet (a regular, way uglier, but DTF).

Then she got up and said something like "It's not your fault, you're nice and I like you". I replied with "OK, no problem". She then said "I came here with an open mind... I am not ready to jump into something physical. I already have something physical with somebody I trust and I need to trust somebody to get there." , and that kind of bothered me, as she implied I was not trustworthy or some shit like that. I told her "Look, it's fine if you don't feel attracted or if you're not feeling it, but there's no need to say stuff like that about trust. I know it doesn't matter." She didn't reply, I escorted her to the door, said bye, and she left.

Literally 2 minutes after she left she deleted me from Tinder and blocked me on WhatsApp.

Now, my questions are:
- Does my game fucking suck?
- Should I have done anything different?
- Is it my fault?

I would honestly feel better knowing that I acted decently, and she simply wasn't that attracted. But is that coping?
What if she actually needed a bit of more trust and rapport? What if she would have smashed on date two, if I ended this one without attempting to escalate again?

This is what kills me. The lack of knowledge. The possibility that I wasted an opportunity due to my actions and not due to my looks.

Judging from my post, do you think I did poorly? Or that it was just out of my control due to the way I look?
Read mystery method, this will never happen again
 
i have girls regularly unmatch and delete/block me when i make out with them on the first date because it spikes their "anti slut defence". "omg omg i just made out with this guy and i know him for an hour, better delete his number and block him so i don't sleep with him".
same for some girls if she fucks you on 1st date.
Yeah it happens but I don't stress over it. Not my problem & nothing we can do about it
 
Yeah it happens but I don't stress over it. Not my problem & nothing we can do about it
You can actually, don't makeout with her on 1st date and invite her to your place at 2nd.
That works quite well
 
Very cute and fit Tinder match, definitely one of the best-looking girls I've dated. Would post pics but she literally blocked me on WA and deleted me from Tinder as soon as she left.

She agreed to come to my place for a drink. I'm 5'6", she was around 5'5". We chatted about usual stuff (work, family, hobbies) while sitting on my sofa. She was sitting away from me. Kino was hard, but I asked about her tattoos and rings and started touching her hands and shoulder (she had a tattoo there). Kept eye contact, vibe was generally calm. Teased her a bit a few times about her age/job/looks but she didn't react very positively to it, she seemed more on the sensitive/defensive side of things even if she knew I was teasing.

After 25-30 minutes of chatting, I told her to come closer. As she did, she said "Are we doing this? I might need more alcohol first.". I didn't say anything, pulled her, and we made out for about 10 seconds. I was going to pull away but she did first. My arm was around her, and when we finished she jumped back to her original sitting location saying "I'm not that much of a touchy feely person.".

We chatted for around other 15-20 minutes, she was quite boring and didn't really ask many follow up questions. I tried to be a bit more caveman and take the cider bottle out of her hands to pull her closer again, but she gripped tight onto it. Then she said "To be honest, I am not really feeling it.". I expected it, and said "No worries, it was nice talking to you then".

She looked a bit dumbstruck and frozen in place. I told her "No need to rush, I'm not kicking you out. Take your time." and started texting another chick on my phone to meet (a regular, way uglier, but DTF).

Then she got up and said something like "It's not your fault, you're nice and I like you". I replied with "OK, no problem". She then said "I came here with an open mind... I am not ready to jump into something physical. I already have something physical with somebody I trust and I need to trust somebody to get there." , and that kind of bothered me, as she implied I was not trustworthy or some shit like that. I told her "Look, it's fine if you don't feel attracted or if you're not feeling it, but there's no need to say stuff like that about trust. I know it doesn't matter." She didn't reply, I escorted her to the door, said bye, and she left.

Literally 2 minutes after she left she deleted me from Tinder and blocked me on WhatsApp.

Now, my questions are:
- Does my game fucking suck?
- Should I have done anything different?
- Is it my fault?

I would honestly feel better knowing that I acted decently, and she simply wasn't that attracted. But is that coping?
What if she actually needed a bit of more trust and rapport? What if she would have smashed on date two, if I ended this one without attempting to escalate again?

This is what kills me. The lack of knowledge. The possibility that I wasted an opportunity due to my actions and not due to my looks.

Judging from my post, do you think I did poorly? Or that it was just out of my control due to the way I look?
she met up with you after swiping on you on tinder thus she was atleast somewhat attracted. so there are 3 possible answers

1) you are not chad. chad doesnt need to have game and fcks

but since she was atleast somewhat attracted to you there are 2 more options

2) you fcked it up

3) she wantedto take it slow so not your faufaulfaufault


noone can tell you except her
 
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game doesn't exist don't cope
it's about looks threshold
and regardless of all of this, why do you give a shit? move on to the next one and don't worry about it
 
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'After 25-30 minutes of chatting, I told her to come closer. As she did, she said "Are we doing this? I might need more alcohol first.". I didn't say anything, pulled her, and we made out for about 10 seconds.'

You need to practise the art of rejecting girls sexual advances to make them more horny for you. When she said this "Are we doing this? I might need more alcohol first." You could say, 'doing what?' then your forcing her to say sex, or she will say some other bullshit, but either way you can make her vulnerable to a rejection, then reject her. Once you've rejected her, like telling her to take it easy or that you wanna talk first, she will crave only sex to prove she can get it from you.

Fake rejecting is very powerful over women, try that next time.

And did you try the style I told you in PM last time we talked, with any girls yet?
Mirin IQ
 
Why would she go to his house with a complete stranger who would may or may not possibly rape her if she denied


Not making sense to me
she probably thought she could 1v1 him irl if he tries anything, brootal heightpill
 
Very cute and fit Tinder match, definitely one of the best-looking girls I've dated. Would post pics but she literally blocked me on WA and deleted me from Tinder as soon as she left.

She agreed to come to my place for a drink. I'm 5'6", she was around 5'5". We chatted about usual stuff (work, family, hobbies) while sitting on my sofa. She was sitting away from me. Kino was hard, but I asked about her tattoos and rings and started touching her hands and shoulder (she had a tattoo there). Kept eye contact, vibe was generally calm. Teased her a bit a few times about her age/job/looks but she didn't react very positively to it, she seemed more on the sensitive/defensive side of things even if she knew I was teasing.

After 25-30 minutes of chatting, I told her to come closer. As she did, she said "Are we doing this? I might need more alcohol first.". I didn't say anything, pulled her, and we made out for about 10 seconds. I was going to pull away but she did first. My arm was around her, and when we finished she jumped back to her original sitting location saying "I'm not that much of a touchy feely person.".

We chatted for around other 15-20 minutes, she was quite boring and didn't really ask many follow up questions. I tried to be a bit more caveman and take the cider bottle out of her hands to pull her closer again, but she gripped tight onto it. Then she said "To be honest, I am not really feeling it.". I expected it, and said "No worries, it was nice talking to you then".

She looked a bit dumbstruck and frozen in place. I told her "No need to rush, I'm not kicking you out. Take your time." and started texting another chick on my phone to meet (a regular, way uglier, but DTF).

Then she got up and said something like "It's not your fault, you're nice and I like you". I replied with "OK, no problem". She then said "I came here with an open mind... I am not ready to jump into something physical. I already have something physical with somebody I trust and I need to trust somebody to get there." , and that kind of bothered me, as she implied I was not trustworthy or some shit like that. I told her "Look, it's fine if you don't feel attracted or if you're not feeling it, but there's no need to say stuff like that about trust. I know it doesn't matter." She didn't reply, I escorted her to the door, said bye, and she left.

Literally 2 minutes after she left she deleted me from Tinder and blocked me on WhatsApp.

Now, my questions are:
- Does my game fucking suck?
- Should I have done anything different?
- Is it my fault?

I would honestly feel better knowing that I acted decently, and she simply wasn't that attracted. But is that coping?
What if she actually needed a bit of more trust and rapport? What if she would have smashed on date two, if I ended this one without attempting to escalate again?

This is what kills me. The lack of knowledge. The possibility that I wasted an opportunity due to my actions and not due to my looks.

Judging from my post, do you think I did poorly? Or that it was just out of my control due to the way I look?
I read the whole thing and tbh you need to communicate more and make women feel more at ease, you mentioned that you were 5’6 and she is 5’5

question: Did you put your height in your tinder bio? And if not did she do anything in particular that stood out to you as a way to judge your height

you also need to be very careful with this redpill/ PUA way of dealing with women in a flirtatious way, you can get #METOOed if not careful also you want your date to feel comfortable. ESPECIALLY if you and your date are in an area by together alone, women tend to be very standoffish with what they might say or do due to the fear that guys might get angry.

I know this might sound weird but next time you guys should go to a more public area just to make her feel more at ease with you first.
 
Based on what I read, here's my opinion if you're open to constructive criticism:

Firstly,
"Look, it's fine if you don't feel attracted or if you're not feeling it, but there's no need to say stuff like that about trust. I know it doesn't matter"

If you know about "shit tests", then you should know anything a woman does negative is literally a shit test. Sounds like she was just testing you and you responded in an insecure, aggressive way and you barely know this girl for 30min and you're talking to her like you're her boyfriend. She blocked you because you didn't respect what she said and basically threw her out (basically failing said "shit test") and losing value in her eyes

You should always have a fun calm vibe, and keep a solid frame. Emotional women are funny to you, they should make you smile and laugh, not make you upset (signs of a low quality man). Some women require additional comfort before they open their legs, sounds like you rushed things when she wasn't ready. If she wasn't attracted to you physically, she would have not kissed you at all

Your looks weren't the issue in this situation, that I'm certain

When a woman tells me "shes not ready" or this or that, I always smile and agree with her, tease her (my personal favorite is calling them an independent woman while cracking up (they can't help but laugh with me)) and still push my agenda regardless. Her defense eventually collapses. Sometimes some of them just need some extra comfort building time
 
Very cute and fit Tinder match, definitely one of the best-looking girls I've dated. Would post pics but she literally blocked me on WA and deleted me from Tinder as soon as she left.

She agreed to come to my place for a drink. I'm 5'6", she was around 5'5". We chatted about usual stuff (work, family, hobbies) while sitting on my sofa. She was sitting away from me. Kino was hard, but I asked about her tattoos and rings and started touching her hands and shoulder (she had a tattoo there). Kept eye contact, vibe was generally calm. Teased her a bit a few times about her age/job/looks but she didn't react very positively to it, she seemed more on the sensitive/defensive side of things even if she knew I was teasing.

After 25-30 minutes of chatting, I told her to come closer. As she did, she said "Are we doing this? I might need more alcohol first.". I didn't say anything, pulled her, and we made out for about 10 seconds. I was going to pull away but she did first. My arm was around her, and when we finished she jumped back to her original sitting location saying "I'm not that much of a touchy feely person.".

We chatted for around other 15-20 minutes, she was quite boring and didn't really ask many follow up questions. I tried to be a bit more caveman and take the cider bottle out of her hands to pull her closer again, but she gripped tight onto it. Then she said "To be honest, I am not really feeling it.". I expected it, and said "No worries, it was nice talking to you then".

She looked a bit dumbstruck and frozen in place. I told her "No need to rush, I'm not kicking you out. Take your time." and started texting another chick on my phone to meet (a regular, way uglier, but DTF).

Then she got up and said something like "It's not your fault, you're nice and I like you". I replied with "OK, no problem". She then said "I came here with an open mind... I am not ready to jump into something physical. I already have something physical with somebody I trust and I need to trust somebody to get there." , and that kind of bothered me, as she implied I was not trustworthy or some shit like that. I told her "Look, it's fine if you don't feel attracted or if you're not feeling it, but there's no need to say stuff like that about trust. I know it doesn't matter." She didn't reply, I escorted her to the door, said bye, and she left.

Literally 2 minutes after she left she deleted me from Tinder and blocked me on WhatsApp.

Now, my questions are:
- Does my game fucking suck?
- Should I have done anything different?
- Is it my fault?

I would honestly feel better knowing that I acted decently, and she simply wasn't that attracted. But is that coping?
What if she actually needed a bit of more trust and rapport? What if she would have smashed on date two, if I ended this one without attempting to escalate again?

This is what kills me. The lack of knowledge. The possibility that I wasted an opportunity due to my actions and not due to my looks.

Judging from my post, do you think I did poorly? Or that it was just out of my control due to the way I look?
"Kept eye contact, vibe was generally calm. Teased her a bit a few times about her age/job/looks but she didn't react very positively to it, she seemed more on the sensitive/defensive side of things even if she knew I was teasing."

Teasing is good, but there are lines you don't cross. Almost every girl has a line when it comes to two things: their age and their looks. That hits a deep nerve with girls, the two things that are most important to them. I'd sooner call a girl a worthless retard than make a joke that's she's ugly or old, even jokingly.
 

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