Possible to be lean and big while natty?

[vinn98]

Post examples if it is, because I'm getting lean now and notice my arms suddenly look smaller.

 

[Deleted member 23219]

Post examples if it is, because I'm getting lean now and notice my arms suddenly look smaller.

not possible unless you have top 10% genetics.
for bottom 50% neither being big nor being lean is possible even when using roids so consider yourself lucky.
That being said, check your training style and dont diet too hard. give yourself some refeed days or even a deload week if neccessary.

plus, you are probably fatter than you think you are!!

 

[Deleted member 27729]

Post examples if it is, because I'm getting lean now and notice my arms suddenly look smaller.

What is your frame like ?

 

[SoundnVision]

not possible unless you have top 10% genetics.
for bottom 30% neither being big nor being lean is possible even when using roids so consider yourself lucky.

Not top 10 more like top 2%

 

[Deleted member 25743]

Only if u are ogre

 

[Deleted member 23219]

Not top 10 more like top 2%

depends on what you consider big/lean. big for me is over 85kg at 180cm height, lean for me is sub 12% bf

 

[Orc]

by bodybuilding standards, no.

by normie standards, yes.

 

[vinn98]

What is your frame like ?

87kg now and goal is 75

 

[Deleted member 27729]

87kg now and goal is 75

You seem like an Ectomorph , you have good potential for getting shredded

 

[orangomango2003]

It depends what you describe as 'big'. You don't need to be big to be considerd attractive by women. Just make sure you don't cut too soon. Best to stay at 14-15% bf and just gain muscle slowly for 3-5 years and then cut to 11-13%. Also genetics can limit your potential. It's most important to have a good shoulder to waist ratio.

 

[Germania]

87kg now and goal is 75

Lose fat and after it build lean muscles, you don’t look like you even lift, zero chest muscles

 

[Blackgymmax]

No lol

 

[Blackgymmax]

It depends what you describe as 'big'. You don't need to be big to be considerd attractive by women. Just make sure you don't cut too soon. Best to stay at 14-15% bf and just gain muscle slowly for 3-5 years and then cut to 11-13%. Also genetics can limit your potential. It's most important to have a good shoulder to waist ratio.
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This is a horrible example. He could be obese and if his face was just as chiseled he would have infinite smv

 

[Deleted member 24444]

No lol

Yes but you need Jeff Seid tier genetics(I'm not sure if he is natty here btw)

 

[Blackgymmax]

Yes but you need Jeff Seid tier genetics(I'm not sure if he is natty here btw)

Natty as my drug stack (creatine btw)

 

[Deleted member 24444]

Natty as my drug stack

I remember Greg Doucette said he is natty here jfl

 

[orangomango2003]

This is a horrible example. He could be obese and if his face was just as chiseled he would have infinite smv

True but we aren't talking about face now. I think he has a good physique (attractive to women) for a natural which is also sustainable and doesn't require being a gymslave.

 

[Blackgymmax]

I remember Greg Doucette said he is natty here jfl

Greg doucette himself claims to be natty in a video and at that time he was busted for EQ in a natty powerlifting meet lul. Wouldnt trust his judgement

 

[Deleted member 19174]

No

 

[flippasav]

No Ed Mathhews what do u think?

 

[VenatorLuparius]

Depends of what you call big.

Extremely difficult to be 12% bodyfat and big at the same time while natty unless you have top-tier muscle building genetics.