Post your fat grafting success cases

[oganthropologist]

I have saddled infra orbital surgery scheduled with Pagnoni next week after paying a hefty deposit.

But - I am considering cancelling and getting fat grafts under eye instead.

I only have ~3mm bone recession, and am reading up more on long term risks that are making me skiddish.

Fat grafts seem to correct my hollow under eyes, and seemingly fix my mild recession, with less risk ($ not an issue).

Correct me if I’m wrong

 

[cjydn]

I have saddled infra orbital surgery scheduled with Pagnoni next week after paying a hefty deposit.

But - I am considering cancelling and getting fat grafts under eye instead.

I only have ~3mm bone recession, and am reading up more on long term risks that are making me skiddish.

Fat grafts seem to correct my hollow under eyes, and seemingly fix my mild recession, with less risk ($ not an issue).

Correct me if I’m wrong

I mean idk anymore I've heard people bitching about fat grafting doesn't last and it isn't permanent bla bla bla

Only thing I heard about infras is the risk of infection so whay long term effects r u saying?

Then again you shouldn't have consulted and made it this far if you haven't researched all options and came to a conclusion anyways.

 

[oganthropologist]

I mean idk anymore I've heard people bitching about fat grafting doesn't last and it isn't permanent bla bla bla

Only thing I heard about infras is the risk of infection so whay long term effects r u saying?

Then again you shouldn't have consulted and made it this far if you haven't researched all options and came to a conclusion anyways.

Long term ie, when you’re old and start loosing teeth and susceptible to upper teeth infections, those infections can traverse over to implant.

Also implant show as skin gets thinner

 

[K.German Psycho]

survival rate in the undereyes is pretty ass unfortunately, supras on the other hand great survival. got it both done.

 

[lurking truecel]

Long term ie, when you’re old and start loosing teeth and susceptible to upper teeth infections, those infections can traverse over to implant.

Also implant show as skin gets thinner

Most people dont start losing teeth tho lol

 

[lurking truecel]

Long term ie, when you’re old and start loosing teeth and susceptible to upper teeth infections, those infections can traverse over to implant.

Also implant show as skin gets thinner

Bigger chance is that you get bone loss around the eyes and if you get saddles it will tick the eyeball. And you will have to remove because of tearing.

 

[PharmaPhaggot]

Bigger chance is that you get bone loss around the eyes and if you get saddles it will tick the eyeball. And you will have to remove because of tearing.

I shot you a dm, please take a look

 

[lurking truecel]

The problem with fat grafts is lumps, and if it happens its a much harder and more complicated surgery to fix it then the first surgery. And you can also get irregularities on both sides when the resorption of the fat is uneven

 

[oganthropologist]

The problem with fat grafts is lumps, and if it happens it’s a much harder and more complicated surgery to fix it than the first surgery. And you can also get irregularities on both sides when the resorption of the fat is uneven

Fuck this guy knows his stuff. It’s over for infrarecessedcels, every solution is potentially cooked with outsized risk

 

[oganthropologist]

May need to discreetly makeupmask and laser

 

[william.]

Long term ie, when you’re old and start loosing teeth and susceptible to upper teeth infections, those infections can traverse over to implant.

Also implant show as skin gets thinner

fat graft when the skin gets thinner

 

[lurking truecel]

fat graft when the skin gets thinner

Doesnt makes sense as the implant itself makes the irregularities from fat graft more likely. Less blod supply also because pf the surface of the implant and also thinner skin have a higher chance of lumps. Meaning age is a risk factor

 

[william.]

Doesnt makes sense as the implant itself makes the irregularities from fat graft more likely. Less blod supply also because pf the surface of the implant and also thinner skin have a higher chance of lumps. Meaning age is a risk factor

fat grafting before implants?

 

[lurking truecel]

fat grafting before implants?

I mean not really optimal either

 

[william.]

I mean not really optimal either

why?

 

[lurking truecel]

why?

I mean its better then after

 

[william.]

I mean its better then after

wouldn't it be better then not doing it? make the risk of infection lower becuase the skin is thicker?

 

[lurking truecel]

wouldn't it be better then not doing it? make the risk of infection lower becuase the skin is thicker?

I mean skin thickness wont change from implants, but the implant can make it more likely that you get uneveness and lumps because of its surface and also that the blood supply becomes worse when you have an implant.

Doing fat graft first is better for eveness and fat survival bility. But if you dont have a perfect design you might need fat graft again and you are back to zero.

Overall its better to test what fat graft can do first, and its safer. But some of yhe fat can disappear when you are inflamed from the implant placement.

Both has pros and cons, but fat first is better in my opionion.

 

[Noesis]

In all of org I've seen one guy post results

 

[william.]

I mean skin thickness wont change from implants, but the implant can make it more likely that you get uneveness and lumps because of its surface and also that the blood supply becomes worse when you have an implant.

Doing fat graft first is better for eveness and fat survival bility. But if you dont have a perfect design you might need fat graft again and you are back to zero.

Overall its better to test what fat graft can do first, and its safer. But some of yhe fat can disappear when you are inflamed from the implant placement.

Both has pros and cons, but fat first is better in my opionion.

thats what I meant. Doing fat grafting first decreases risk of infection from implants if your skin i thin

 

[lurking truecel]

thats what I meant. Doing fat grafting first decreases risk of infection from implants if your skin i thin

I mean infection doesnt depend on skin thickness but rather your own immune system and also the surgeon ofc. And if your skin is thin then you shouldnt really do either, because its higher risk of both implant show and lumps from fat graft

 

[william.]

I mean infection doesnt depend on skin thickness but rather your own immune system and also the surgeon ofc. And if your skin is thin then you shouldnt really do either, because its higher risk of both implant show and lumps from fat graft

so if ur skin is thin ut just fucked?

 

[lurking truecel]

so if ur skin is thin ut just fucked?

yea kinda, because you will age like poop and there isnt much surgery you can do without getting obv visibility and higher risk of failos

 

[william.]

yea kinda, because you will age like poop and there isnt much surgery you can do without getting obv visibility and higher risk of failos

did u have thin skin before the implants?

 

[lurking truecel]

did u have thin skin before the implants?

normal thickness. most people just get thin skin with age. white people is more likely to have thinner skin, the thing is its good when young but age like shit. asians have the thickest

 

[lurking truecel]

did u have thin skin before the implants?

thats also the reason why fat graft is more commonly done in asain countries. But most people in the west does fat graft in the 30s, 40s. Doing it younger is better. But ofc you will need to do it again 10-15 years later either way

 

[bill65]

I think the only real solution seems to be prf injections every 6 months

 

[oganthropologist]

I think the only real solution seems to be prf injections every 6 months

These actually make a difference ?

 

[lopaks41]

These actually make a difference ?

hyaluronic acid fillers also do wonders and way easier to remove if it doesnt go as planned

 

[oganthropologist]

hyaluronic acid fillers also do wonders and way easier to remove if it doesnt go as planned

agree RE easier to remove although have doubts on efficacy given several negative reviews on Reddit.

 

[lopaks41]

agree RE easier to remove although have doubts on efficacy given several negative reviews on Reddit.

such as? i would like to see

 

[oganthropologist]

Just search "undereye filler" on reddit and there are dozens of threads with folks sharing their experience. From my perusing, it seemed as though ~35-40% are content with results (ie - looks good, goes away in a year, then retouch). 60 - 65% seemed unhappy (migration given lack of bone support, or quickly dissolving).

 

[mltn2mtn]

survival rate in the undereyes is pretty ass unfortunately, supras on the other hand great survival. got it both done.

can u dm me photos or atleast estimate the survival rate of the fat in your supras, also did u get it done in thailand or no?

 

[Foreverbrad]

I wish I had had the sense to do fat graft before my Trimax.

 

[nishka]

I wish I had had the sense to do fat graft before my Trimax.

Why? What happened?

 

[nishka]

So fellas, infraorbital implants are not ?

 

[nishka]

Long term ie, when you’re old and start loosing teeth and susceptible to upper teeth infections, those infections can traverse over to implant.

Just brush your teeth, bro. Also if you're old enough where you're losing teeth, I don't think you need to care so much about how you look, not gonna lie
Someone also needs to consider by the time we are old, there will be new medication for all kinds of diseases

 

[K.German Psycho]

can u dm me photos or atleast estimate the survival rate of the fat in your supras, also did u get it done in thailand or no?

k

 

[snowslayer]

I mean skin thickness wont change from implants, but the implant can make it more likely that you get uneveness and lumps because of its surface and also that the blood supply becomes worse when you have an implant.

Doing fat graft first is better for eveness and fat survival bility. But if you dont have a perfect design you might need fat graft again and you are back to zero.

Overall its better to test what fat graft can do first, and its safer. But some of yhe fat can disappear when you are inflamed from the implant placement.

Both has pros and cons, but fat first is better in my opionion.

thoughts on prf for under eyes? saw a mogger result on insta that looked pretty unfrauded its combined with jaw filler. another thing i wanna add is chin filler for width is super underrated

 

[lurking truecel]

thoughts on prf for under eyes? saw a mogger result on insta that looked pretty unfrauded its combined with jaw filler. another thing i wanna add is chin filler for width is super underrated

Prf done jack shit, this is at best swelling

 

[snowslayer]

Prf done jack shit, this is at best swelling

i just dont see why its not worth trying fat grafts n infra implants have way higher risk and can be botched these worst case scenario get botched you don't do a touch up and it goes away results mog no? if i told u these results were fat grafting you probably would have believed me no?

 

[lurking truecel]

i just dont see why its not worth trying fat grafts n infra implants have way higher risk and can be botched these worst case scenario get botched you don't do a touch up and it goes away results mog no? if i told u these results were fat grafting you probably would have believed me no?

I mean many things can look decent for a short amount of time

 

[snowslayer]

I mean many things can look decent for a short amount of time

of course you just gotta be able to afford the upkeep you have to do 3 sessions spaced 6 weeks apart and then do upkeep every 6 months don't really understand how thats a big deal. Also some frontalis botox to lower the brows by a couple mm is great and upkeep for that is 4x a year not really a big issue. Clav does the frontalis botox a lot its pretty obvious imo

 

[TransactionalLife2]

I have saddled infra orbital surgery scheduled with Pagnoni next week after paying a hefty deposit.

But - I am considering cancelling and getting fat grafts under eye instead.

I only have ~3mm bone recession, and am reading up more on long term risks that are making me skiddish.

Fat grafts seem to correct my hollow under eyes, and seemingly fix my mild recession, with less risk ($ not an issue).

Correct me if I’m wrong

Are you doing the saddled infra because you want to lift your lower eyelid ? I also wanted to do saddled infra with him , but he told me it wouldnt make much a difference for me , here is my ct scan