Pre-surgery planning help (xrays)

[snotdropper]

What the hell do I tell my ortho?

 

[snotdropper]

Analysis (how fucked my maxilla is, how to measure, etc.) helps, too

 

[DNR_]

maxilla looks decent, your mandible is short as fuck though.
tell him you have trouble breathing when laying on back, and when sleeping on side you feel better.
say when you wake up your tongue is dry and you get headaches throughout the day.

 

[snotdropper]

say when you wake up your tongue is dry and you get headaches throughout the day.

The worst part is, this isn't a lie either, altho I am dehydrated as shit 24/7

What corrective surgery/surgeries do you have in mind? What can I even larp

 

[DNR_]

The worst part is, this isn't a lie either, altho I am dehydrated as shit 24/7

What corrective surgery/surgeries do you have in mind? What can I even larp

If its not a lie then your not even larping atp your just being yourself.
Ask for sleep study, i asked for one and they scheduled one and i went in and had scans and spoke with an OMFS now im on mse and braces, waiting till my mouth is ready for surgery.

 

[geenk worg]

Why did you crop the image ffs

 

[DNR_]

The worst part is, this isn't a lie either, altho I am dehydrated as shit 24/7

What corrective surgery/surgeries do you have in mind? What can I even larp

Make an appointment with normal doctor and ask for ENT referral, then larp about sleep issues to ENT to get sleep study.

 

[Ahmed88]

Horrible maxilla, horrible mandible, i honestly can't tell a single good feature, just rope nigga

 

[snotdropper]

Horrible maxilla, horrible mandible, i honestly can't tell a single good feature, just rope nigga

Make an appointment with normal doctor and ask for ENT referral, then larp about sleep issues to ENT to get sleep study.

what about ortho

 

[snotdropper]

Why did you crop the image ffs

 

[geenk worg]

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Could probably do a large genio (10mm+) and call it a day

 

[snotdropper]

Could probably do a large genio (10mm+) and call it a day

What about bimax? Or anything I can larp my way into through an ortho

 

[geenk worg]

What about bimax? Or anything I can larp my way into through an ortho

Not worth it

 

[snotdropper]

Not worth it

As in I'm not recessed enough for it, or that the recovery is far too fucked. I can't larp into a genio, would have to pay.

 

[Palan]

What the hell do I tell my ortho?

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There are many scripts, however this one is the one that I found most efficient: "Hi, I've been doing a lot of research on craniofacial development and airway health. Looking at my ceph, my maxilla and mandible look both retrognathic, especially ine mandible. My bite class is class II, I have trouble breathing through my nose at night, and im starting to get TMJ clicking and occasional jaw fatigue. I'm concerned about long-term airway restriction and want to explore options that can actually advance my jaw forward instead of just retracting teeth." have a good one.

 

[Palan]

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As in I'm not recessed enough for it, or that the recovery is far too fucked. I can't larp into a genio, would have to pay.

I mean that ceph shows a clear mandibular retrognathia, your lower jaw is sitting noticeably back, and that statement of you saying that you're not recessed enough for it is bullshit because the x=ray shows that you are recessed enough for a sliding genioplasty...

 

[snotdropper]

There are many scripts, however this one is the one that I found most efficient: "Hi, I've been doing a lot of research on craniofacial development and airway health. Looking at my ceph, my maxilla and mandible look both retrognathic, especially ine mandible. My bite class is class II, I have trouble breathing through my nose at night, and im starting to get TMJ clicking and occasional jaw fatigue. I'm concerned about long-term airway restriction and want to explore options that can actually advance my jaw forward instead of just retracting teeth." have a good one.

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I mean that ceph shows a clear mandibular retrognathia, your lower jaw is sitting noticeably back, and that statement of you saying that you're not recessed enough for it is bullshit because the x=ray shows that you are recessed enough for a sliding genioplasty...

I have phrased it wrong - I was asking a question if I am not recessed enough, or the recovery is fucked (for a bimax)

I'm wondering what procedures can help my case, in terms of my mandibula (and how to point an ortho in their way)

 

[Palan]

I have phrased it wrong - I was asking a question if I am not recessed enough, or the recovery is fucked (for a bimax)

I'm wondering what procedures can help my case, in terms of my mandibula (and how to point an ortho in their way)

Well you are recessed enough for surgery, as I had said, the ceph shoes clear mandibular retroghnathia and a class II skeletal pattern, anyway, some procedures (in the terms of your mandibula) that could help include (as mentioned) a sliding genioplasty, a BSSO (bilateral sagittal split osteotomy), or a full bixmax, the recovery however on the full bimax is very rough as you'd be 2-3 weeks wired or heavily weollen, on liquid diet, but the aesthetic and the functional payoff of the bimax is absolutely massive.

You could point your ortho towards the surgeries by just telling him that you've seen what retraction does to profiles and you want to avoid that, you could also tell him that you're more concerned about function and long-term facial harmony than just straight teeth too.

 

[snotdropper]

You could point your ortho towards the surgeries by just telling him that you've seen what retraction does to profiles and you want to avoid that, you could also tell him that you're more concerned about function and long-term facial harmony than just straight teeth too.

Do I still roll with the script you've given me?
Better said, is there any chance I could larp my way into any of the mentioned surgeries with my current recession (is it severe enough for this to work?)

 

[Palan]

Do I still roll with the script you've given me?

You can more than definitely roll with it, just be yourself when you're saying it and try memorizing parts of it.

 

[snotdropper]

You can more than definitely roll with it, just be yourself when you're saying it and try memorizing parts of it.

Wdy think, is the mandibular retroghnathia severe enough for that to work?

 

[Animepilled]

genio only case imo

 

[snotdropper]

genio only case imo

Need to fix overbite, too. I don't wanna accidentally recess myself more

 

[Animepilled]

Need to fix overbite, too. I don't wanna accidentally recess myself more

recess with what nigga. also u dont have an overbite

 

[snotdropper]

recess with what nigga. also u dont have an overbite

I have a front jet, teeth don't allign. I meant with braces

 

[wrong_perfection]

Maybe you can get a rope prescription

 

[Lookologist003]

OP are you fat? Can I tell that you are fat in X-rays?

 

[Adee]

What the hell do I tell my ortho?

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Your case looks very limited, unfortunately
You could get 4-5mm advancement on both of the jaws and huge genio

 

[snotdropper]

OP are you fat? Can I tell that you are fat in X-rays?

18.5 BMI & 14-18% BF

 

[snotdropper]

Your case looks very limited, unfortunately
You could get 4-5mm advancement on both of the jaws and huge genio

Wdym by limited? Also, what sorts of advancement?

 

[tyler1234]

Wdym by limited? Also, what sorts of advancement?

U need to begin to fix ur posture