Proof that Flatplane mouthguards work for ascension. PLEASE BUY ONE

[futureashtray]

I wasn’t planning on making this post for another year or two, since it’s been only two months, and I’m not comfortable taking pictures of my face yet, but I can testify it has transformed me, not only facially but physically, my whole body. But enough of that I’ll be showing photos of before and after, what’s wrong with specifics things or not, etc.
This will not be an high quality post as I’m tired and my usual bedtime is 9 it’s 10:53 am rn, But here it goes.

Take a look at this picture

My ears are literally in my neck, believe it or not this isn’t a funny photoshop attempt like this so real, I’m also heavily lip puckering here because I was extremely recessed and facially unattractive with a relaxed face, take a look at my nose how slanted it is and virtually no philtrum lol, the lip puckering added onto this,
View attachment 3722832
Now I’ll show you how I looked, I would say I was actually attractive even tho I was frauding with my muscles pretty much and head tiltage, although the head tiltage wasn’t because I was doing it on purpose, it was because my neck muscles or something, everything was messed up dude, like really. It’s kinda like baby stickley when he talks abt muscle control, this is just frauding lol, you relax your face and ur chopped, this was me, but enough talking here’s how I looked like in the front


you are free to look at the vid but I’ll also include an older photo before I buzzed my head. View attachment 3722854
Here’s this picture, insane UEE and I’m mixed, black and white, but I was developing like I have more black in me than white if that makes sense lol, I just look like.. idk more black in a way, specially because of the lip puckering and the head tiltage making my nose look wider. I’m Cuban, mom side is like native to Cuba or something but her dad is from Spain too I believe but he was born in Cuba, and my dad is also born and raised in Cuba but his great great grandparents immigrated from Spain to Cuba.

Then there’s this picture
View attachment 3722861
Yes you could say it’s a bad pic and it is, but my fave is fully relaxed here, like as relaxed as I could get it, bad uee good philtrum I would say, bad symmetry and my nose again man, just looks wide and like a pig, I want you guys to imagine all the pressure this was putting on my brain, I was failing school I failed 9th could barely concentrate, like I was a failure and now I blame it on extreme compression of the brain caused by my biomechanics as Ken would say, “collapsing” but anyways enough of this, let’s get to me trying to fix it.

Here’s one of the first times I angled my head lower to make it look like how a NT person would have it. View attachment 3722862
In this pic, my ears are finally in the correct positioning, my forehead is great, but feminine due to lack of actual development, chin cooked, that fat under my jaw is my tongue and barely any fat lol, IE pretty much, no space for it, and again I was puckering here too lol. I would say I had slight foward head posture, and I never sticked with it Because I hanged out with my friends at the mall where a lot of people I knew went, and I’m not going to look chopped in front of my ex and all the Stacie’s, so I, like always, returned to my “unnatural” head positioning which was already destroying me.

View attachment 3722869
In this picture, I somehow managed to look better? But I think it was because I stopped going out as much and I gave it a solid maybe week or a little bit more, like me actually putting my head like that, and maybe that did something with the constant stretch of my neck muscles, stretching soft tissues allowing my bones to go back to their natural state, again I was puckering my lips here, and my maxilla destroyed, although it isn’t much better now.



Anyways back to the first picture, you guys saw how my ears where literally pointing west, idk how I wasn’t dead, I felt sort of dead, kind off, but anyways here’s me now ig, again before you say anything, this is only 2 months or prob even less after I bought the mouthguard, I’m self conscious and will be self conscious until the end of this journey, this was a big reason why I didn’t want to make the post now even tho I’ve seen changes, and I wanted to wait until the very end, because I knew even if the changes are saw where there, I would still be self conscious and not content with my current results when I knew if I waited a year or two, I would be unrecognizable, I have not taken a lot of pictures and videos, again bc of my self consciousness, so the ones I am about to show you might say they aren’t good quality or something, and the most straight away change you will see is my side profile, and eyes, and nose, which were the most mindblowing results and The first thing I will show, is a front video, i posted this on my insta, I was relaxed, except I was squinting a bit, Here’s the video,


I understand if you guys take this with a grain of sand, but like I said, I’m just not yet confident enough to take more. Anyways enough of the confidence chat, here’s the side profile,

View attachment 3722898
The first thing I want you to notice is the lips, they are completely relaxed, like as relaxed as they can be, I can’t say how happy I am to Atleast look normal without having to force anything. I’m going to show you guys the previous lip where I was puckering and then now, the space from my lip and nose, relaxed vs puckering View attachment 3722907
View attachment 3722938 Insane difference man, just insane, and mind you? I was completely relaxed, I will also say this, my face is almost completely symmetrical now, and no I won’t be showing proof as like I’ve said previously, still not confident, but I really cannot tell you guys, how big of a difference it had made in a short amount of time. If it can help me why can it not help you? Just buy it dude doesn’t even have to be reviv just any flatplane mouthguard, although I recommend reviv because of true size dimensions and how you never know if other mouthguards have pfas or not, also if it breaks they give you free replacements up to two times, so just buy it, don’t get braces or palate expanders or anything, dont get surgery at all, don’t get anything, don’t just wear the mouthguard for a year or two, you will see during this timeframe you will get AMAZING results, I’ve already gotten amazing results that people would think is only possible thru surgery or what not in two months, IMAGINE A YEAR, IMAGINE 2! Dm me for any questions and if too many people dm me and I don’t reply I’ll just post a video with wearing instructions, but besides this, as a bonus I’ll add even more old pictures of me, and how my eye area has improved. Thank you for reading this whole thing!

(Eye area video)


Like I’ve said, I’m still recessed, still not where I want to be, and in the after side profile pic I’m squinting slightly, but anyways, the changed are obvious, my hair has grown a lot so it does cover my ears.
View attachment 3723002
(Also before anybody says (oh he still has alot of uee based on this video) no, the only reason any uee showed here was because I was tilting my head to the side to show my ears bc I was trying to look at myself, just had to get it out so I didn’t have to respond to everyone in the comments.

Holy fucking autism

brother you’re overthinking it

 

[cutecoolnerdboy]

Holy fucking autism

brother you’re overthinking it

Literally the opposite of overthinking it.


instead of doing all these surgeries, braces, palate expanders, thumb pulling what ever it may be, the simplest solution and the only true solution in my books, is wearing a flatplane mouthguard that adds height and unclocks the occlusion, that’s it.
I do not know how simpler it gets, how could this ever possibly be “overthinking it”

 

[Nochills]

I wasn’t planning on making this post for another year or two, since it’s been only two months, and I’m not comfortable taking pictures of my face yet, but I can testify it has transformed me, not only facially but physically, my whole body. But enough of that I’ll be showing photos of before and after, what’s wrong with specifics things or not, etc.
This will not be an high quality post as I’m tired and my usual bedtime is 9 it’s 10:53 am rn, But here it goes.

Take a look at this picture

My ears are literally in my neck, believe it or not this isn’t a funny photoshop attempt like this so real, I’m also heavily lip puckering here because I was extremely recessed and facially unattractive with a relaxed face, take a look at my nose how slanted it is and virtually no philtrum lol, the lip puckering added onto this,
View attachment 3722832
Now I’ll show you how I looked, I would say I was actually attractive even tho I was frauding with my muscles pretty much and head tiltage, although the head tiltage wasn’t because I was doing it on purpose, it was because my neck muscles or something, everything was messed up dude, like really. It’s kinda like baby stickley when he talks abt muscle control, this is just frauding lol, you relax your face and ur chopped, this was me, but enough talking here’s how I looked like in the front


you are free to look at the vid but I’ll also include an older photo before I buzzed my head. View attachment 3722854
Here’s this picture, insane UEE and I’m mixed, black and white, but I was developing like I have more black in me than white if that makes sense lol, I just look like.. idk more black in a way, specially because of the lip puckering and the head tiltage making my nose look wider. I’m Cuban, mom side is like native to Cuba or something but her dad is from Spain too I believe but he was born in Cuba, and my dad is also born and raised in Cuba but his great great grandparents immigrated from Spain to Cuba.

Then there’s this picture
View attachment 3722861
Yes you could say it’s a bad pic and it is, but my fave is fully relaxed here, like as relaxed as I could get it, bad uee good philtrum I would say, bad symmetry and my nose again man, just looks wide and like a pig, I want you guys to imagine all the pressure this was putting on my brain, I was failing school I failed 9th could barely concentrate, like I was a failure and now I blame it on extreme compression of the brain caused by my biomechanics as Ken would say, “collapsing” but anyways enough of this, let’s get to me trying to fix it.

Here’s one of the first times I angled my head lower to make it look like how a NT person would have it. View attachment 3722862
In this pic, my ears are finally in the correct positioning, my forehead is great, but feminine due to lack of actual development, chin cooked, that fat under my jaw is my tongue and barely any fat lol, IE pretty much, no space for it, and again I was puckering here too lol. I would say I had slight foward head posture, and I never sticked with it Because I hanged out with my friends at the mall where a lot of people I knew went, and I’m not going to look chopped in front of my ex and all the Stacie’s, so I, like always, returned to my “unnatural” head positioning which was already destroying me.

View attachment 3722869
In this picture, I somehow managed to look better? But I think it was because I stopped going out as much and I gave it a solid maybe week or a little bit more, like me actually putting my head like that, and maybe that did something with the constant stretch of my neck muscles, stretching soft tissues allowing my bones to go back to their natural state, again I was puckering my lips here, and my maxilla destroyed, although it isn’t much better now.



Anyways back to the first picture, you guys saw how my ears where literally pointing west, idk how I wasn’t dead, I felt sort of dead, kind off, but anyways here’s me now ig, again before you say anything, this is only 2 months or prob even less after I bought the mouthguard, I’m self conscious and will be self conscious until the end of this journey, this was a big reason why I didn’t want to make the post now even tho I’ve seen changes, and I wanted to wait until the very end, because I knew even if the changes are saw where there, I would still be self conscious and not content with my current results when I knew if I waited a year or two, I would be unrecognizable, I have not taken a lot of pictures and videos, again bc of my self consciousness, so the ones I am about to show you might say they aren’t good quality or something, and the most straight away change you will see is my side profile, and eyes, and nose, which were the most mindblowing results and The first thing I will show, is a front video, i posted this on my insta, I was relaxed, except I was squinting a bit, Here’s the video,


I understand if you guys take this with a grain of sand, but like I said, I’m just not yet confident enough to take more. Anyways enough of the confidence chat, here’s the side profile,

View attachment 3722898
The first thing I want you to notice is the lips, they are completely relaxed, like as relaxed as they can be, I can’t say how happy I am to Atleast look normal without having to force anything. I’m going to show you guys the previous lip where I was puckering and then now, the space from my lip and nose, relaxed vs puckering View attachment 3722907
View attachment 3722938 Insane difference man, just insane, and mind you? I was completely relaxed, I will also say this, my face is almost completely symmetrical now, and no I won’t be showing proof as like I’ve said previously, still not confident, but I really cannot tell you guys, how big of a difference it had made in a short amount of time. If it can help me why can it not help you? Just buy it dude doesn’t even have to be reviv just any flatplane mouthguard, although I recommend reviv because of true size dimensions and how you never know if other mouthguards have pfas or not, also if it breaks they give you free replacements up to two times, so just buy it, don’t get braces or palate expanders or anything, dont get surgery at all, don’t get anything, don’t just wear the mouthguard for a year or two, you will see during this timeframe you will get AMAZING results, I’ve already gotten amazing results that people would think is only possible thru surgery or what not in two months, IMAGINE A YEAR, IMAGINE 2! Dm me for any questions and if too many people dm me and I don’t reply I’ll just post a video with wearing instructions, but besides this, as a bonus I’ll add even more old pictures of me, and how my eye area has improved. Thank you for reading this whole thing!

(Eye area video)


Like I’ve said, I’m still recessed, still not where I want to be, and in the after side profile pic I’m squinting slightly, but anyways, the changed are obvious, my hair has grown a lot so it does cover my ears.
View attachment 3723002
(Also before anybody says (oh he still has alot of uee based on this video) no, the only reason any uee showed here was because I was tilting my head to the side to show my ears bc I was trying to look at myself, just had to get it out so I didn’t have to respond to everyone in the comments.

Nigga Use gpt to summarise this shit was exhausting to read had me taking a nap after . So what you’re basically saying is: wear mouth guard + proper head posture. Did I get this right?

 

[cutecoolnerdboy]

Use gpt to summarise cuz this was a pain in the ass to read. So what you’re basically saying is: wear mouth guard + proper head posture. Did I get this right?

Kind off, not any mouthguard, it can’t lock ur teeth in place, and it must add a lot of height so it adds the element stretching, and it’s not rlly about proper head posture, some people have bad posture because of compensations, so I wouldn’t force having “proper head posture”

 

[Nochills]

Kind off, not any mouthguard, it can’t lock ur teeth in place, and it must add a lot of height so it adds the element stretching, and it’s not rlly about proper head posture, some people have bad posture because of compensations, so I wouldn’t force having “proper head posture”

still confused. You talked about ear placement and your pics showed you readjusted your head posture to a better position what does forcing it have to do with anything? Also compensation happened because of bad posture not the other way around.

 

[cutecoolnerdboy]

still confused. You talked about ear placement and your pics showed you readjusted your head posture to a better position what does forcing it have to do with anything? Also compensation happened because of bad posture not the other way around.

Bad posture is compensation brudda, two sides of the same coin.

 

[cutecoolnerdboy]

still confused. You talked about ear placement and your pics showed you readjusted your head posture to a better position what does forcing it have to do with anything? Also compensation happened because of bad posture not the other way around.

Also sorry for late response, and I assure you my head is at a resting state like that without me having to forcefully lower it. I know this pic is chopped I just took it 30 secs ago right before i wrote this to show you.

 

[cutecoolnerdboy]

Nigga Use gpt to summarise this shit was exhausting to read had me taking a nap after . So what you’re basically saying is: wear mouth guard + proper head posture. Did I get this right?

Hahahaha, I didn’t realize you said you took a nap lol, good brain workout I guess

 

[fallinghours]

I wasn’t planning on making this post for another year or two, since it’s been only two months, and I’m not comfortable taking pictures of my face yet, but I can testify it has transformed me, not only facially but physically, my whole body. But enough of that I’ll be showing photos of before and after, what’s wrong with specifics things or not, etc.
This will not be an high quality post as I’m tired and my usual bedtime is 9 it’s 10:53 am rn, But here it goes.

Take a look at this picture

My ears are literally in my neck, believe it or not this isn’t a funny photoshop attempt like this so real, I’m also heavily lip puckering here because I was extremely recessed and facially unattractive with a relaxed face, take a look at my nose how slanted it is and virtually no philtrum lol, the lip puckering added onto this,
View attachment 3722832
Now I’ll show you how I looked, I would say I was actually attractive even tho I was frauding with my muscles pretty much and head tiltage, although the head tiltage wasn’t because I was doing it on purpose, it was because my neck muscles or something, everything was messed up dude, like really. It’s kinda like baby stickley when he talks abt muscle control, this is just frauding lol, you relax your face and ur chopped, this was me, but enough talking here’s how I looked like in the front


you are free to look at the vid but I’ll also include an older photo before I buzzed my head. View attachment 3722854
Here’s this picture, insane UEE and I’m mixed, black and white, but I was developing like I have more black in me than white if that makes sense lol, I just look like.. idk more black in a way, specially because of the lip puckering and the head tiltage making my nose look wider. I’m Cuban, mom side is like native to Cuba or something but her dad is from Spain too I believe but he was born in Cuba, and my dad is also born and raised in Cuba but his great great grandparents immigrated from Spain to Cuba.

Then there’s this picture
View attachment 3722861
Yes you could say it’s a bad pic and it is, but my fave is fully relaxed here, like as relaxed as I could get it, bad uee good philtrum I would say, bad symmetry and my nose again man, just looks wide and like a pig, I want you guys to imagine all the pressure this was putting on my brain, I was failing school I failed 9th could barely concentrate, like I was a failure and now I blame it on extreme compression of the brain caused by my biomechanics as Ken would say, “collapsing” but anyways enough of this, let’s get to me trying to fix it.

Here’s one of the first times I angled my head lower to make it look like how a NT person would have it. View attachment 3722862
In this pic, my ears are finally in the correct positioning, my forehead is great, but feminine due to lack of actual development, chin cooked, that fat under my jaw is my tongue and barely any fat lol, IE pretty much, no space for it, and again I was puckering here too lol. I would say I had slight foward head posture, and I never sticked with it Because I hanged out with my friends at the mall where a lot of people I knew went, and I’m not going to look chopped in front of my ex and all the Stacie’s, so I, like always, returned to my “unnatural” head positioning which was already destroying me.

View attachment 3722869
In this picture, I somehow managed to look better? But I think it was because I stopped going out as much and I gave it a solid maybe week or a little bit more, like me actually putting my head like that, and maybe that did something with the constant stretch of my neck muscles, stretching soft tissues allowing my bones to go back to their natural state, again I was puckering my lips here, and my maxilla destroyed, although it isn’t much better now.



Anyways back to the first picture, you guys saw how my ears where literally pointing west, idk how I wasn’t dead, I felt sort of dead, kind off, but anyways here’s me now ig, again before you say anything, this is only 2 months or prob even less after I bought the mouthguard, I’m self conscious and will be self conscious until the end of this journey, this was a big reason why I didn’t want to make the post now even tho I’ve seen changes, and I wanted to wait until the very end, because I knew even if the changes are saw where there, I would still be self conscious and not content with my current results when I knew if I waited a year or two, I would be unrecognizable, I have not taken a lot of pictures and videos, again bc of my self consciousness, so the ones I am about to show you might say they aren’t good quality or something, and the most straight away change you will see is my side profile, and eyes, and nose, which were the most mindblowing results and The first thing I will show, is a front video, i posted this on my insta, I was relaxed, except I was squinting a bit, Here’s the video,


I understand if you guys take this with a grain of sand, but like I said, I’m just not yet confident enough to take more. Anyways enough of the confidence chat, here’s the side profile,

View attachment 3722898
The first thing I want you to notice is the lips, they are completely relaxed, like as relaxed as they can be, I can’t say how happy I am to Atleast look normal without having to force anything. I’m going to show you guys the previous lip where I was puckering and then now, the space from my lip and nose, relaxed vs puckering View attachment 3722907
View attachment 3722938 Insane difference man, just insane, and mind you? I was completely relaxed, I will also say this, my face is almost completely symmetrical now, and no I won’t be showing proof as like I’ve said previously, still not confident, but I really cannot tell you guys, how big of a difference it had made in a short amount of time. If it can help me why can it not help you? Just buy it dude doesn’t even have to be reviv just any flatplane mouthguard, although I recommend reviv because of true size dimensions and how you never know if other mouthguards have pfas or not, also if it breaks they give you free replacements up to two times, so just buy it, don’t get braces or palate expanders or anything, dont get surgery at all, don’t get anything, don’t just wear the mouthguard for a year or two, you will see during this timeframe you will get AMAZING results, I’ve already gotten amazing results that people would think is only possible thru surgery or what not in two months, IMAGINE A YEAR, IMAGINE 2! Dm me for any questions and if too many people dm me and I don’t reply I’ll just post a video with wearing instructions, but besides this, as a bonus I’ll add even more old pictures of me, and how my eye area has improved. Thank you for reading this whole thing!

(Eye area video)


Like I’ve said, I’m still recessed, still not where I want to be, and in the after side profile pic I’m squinting slightly, but anyways, the changed are obvious, my hair has grown a lot so it does cover my ears.
View attachment 3723002
(Also before anybody says (oh he still has alot of uee based on this video) no, the only reason any uee showed here was because I was tilting my head to the side to show my ears bc I was trying to look at myself, just had to get it out so I didn’t have to respond to everyone in the comments.

ngl king it might be over

 

[cutecoolnerdboy]

ngl king it might be over

It’s never over bro.. give me a year or two

 

[fallinghours]

It’s never over bro.. give me a year or two

u right man i believe in you.

 

[kazama]

ngl I didnt read anything bc the title confused me, a mouth guard??? What will it do?? Is that really how it would work??

 

[cutecoolnerdboy]

ngl I didnt read anything bc the title confused me, a mouth guard??? What will it do?? Is that really how it would work??

Yup, just a mouthguard that adds height and unlocks the occlusion, meaning it lets the teeth move freely, like this,

 

[cutecoolnerdboy]

u right man i believe in you.

Thank you bro

 

[kazama]

Yup, just a mouthguard that adds height and unlocks the occlusion, meaning it lets the teeth move freely, like this,

What??? I've never heard of that
Explain to me more, like how it's actually used, etc., I'll read ur thread (if it's already explained in it, let me know).
like how would that help wtf jfl i've never heard of it

 

[Nochills]

I don't think disregarding head posture is the move. at least be aware that if you aren't achieving it it's going to have negative effects.

This doesn't apply to subhumans who have to force it. also does your mouth guard at least fit a natural occlusion? and how much height is it adding?

Having your teeth too far apart seems wrong i did this when young to fraud my weak jawline and its the reason my face got worse into my teen years.

 

[cutecoolnerdboy]

What??? I've never heard of that
Explain to me more, like how it's actually used, etc., I'll read ur thread (if it's already explained in it, let me know).
like how would that help wtf jfl i've never heard of it

Dude… don’t even hear it from me, there’s a gazillion vids on where I found this originally, just watch the vids and you would understand better than I can explain it tbh, I’m pretty sure I said how it works, but if anything just join the guys thingy it’s a Community on skool, I’m sure you’ve heard of it, clavicular has a community there, here’s the link btw, just request and they give you a free month.

I don't think disregarding head posture is the move. at least be aware that if you aren't achieving it it's going to have negative effects.

This doesn't apply to subhumans who have to force it. also does your mouth guard at least fit a natural occlusion? and how much height is it adding?

Having your teeth too far apart seems wrong i did this when young to fraud my weak jawline and its the reason my face got worse into my teen years.

there’s a difference between having the teeth too far apart, not supporting this, will only cause the curve of spee to flatten, but when you have a mouthguard, you support it, if that makes sense, in all seriousness, Ken says, that he does stretches, to continue stretching his body now, and he uses the mouthguard to support it, that’s what he does, in the beginning he used it for stretching itself, not it’s only to support it from not closing, this is why having teeth apart just won’t do it, and right now, my mouthguard is barely adding any height, which is a bad thing, the stronger the material is the less it gives away to soft tissue, and the more height? The more of a stretch if you catch ma drift, and I’m not sure what you mean by natural occlusion, if it’s flatplane, this unlocks, the occlusion, this means that the teeth aren’t being locked, look at it like things, your teeth have cusps, if you bite down, this means ur jaw isn’t moving, like ur teeth are stuck in a certain position, which in Ken’s view is bad, so we need to unlock the occlusion to allow the teeth to upright, and use a mouthguard to stretch and hold this space being created, that’s why it actually gives you a posterior open bite, ur actually raising ur curve of spee.

 

[Lawton88]

I wasn’t planning on making this post for another year or two, since it’s been only two months, and I’m not comfortable taking pictures of my face yet, but I can testify it has transformed me, not only facially but physically, my whole body. But enough of that I’ll be showing photos of before and after, what’s wrong with specifics things or not, etc.
This will not be an high quality post as I’m tired and my usual bedtime is 9 it’s 10:53 am rn, But here it goes.

Take a look at this picture

My ears are literally in my neck, believe it or not this isn’t a funny photoshop attempt like this so real, I’m also heavily lip puckering here because I was extremely recessed and facially unattractive with a relaxed face, take a look at my nose how slanted it is and virtually no philtrum lol, the lip puckering added onto this,
View attachment 3722832
Now I’ll show you how I looked, I would say I was actually attractive even tho I was frauding with my muscles pretty much and head tiltage, although the head tiltage wasn’t because I was doing it on purpose, it was because my neck muscles or something, everything was messed up dude, like really. It’s kinda like baby stickley when he talks abt muscle control, this is just frauding lol, you relax your face and ur chopped, this was me, but enough talking here’s how I looked like in the front


you are free to look at the vid but I’ll also include an older photo before I buzzed my head. View attachment 3722854
Here’s this picture, insane UEE and I’m mixed, black and white, but I was developing like I have more black in me than white if that makes sense lol, I just look like.. idk more black in a way, specially because of the lip puckering and the head tiltage making my nose look wider. I’m Cuban, mom side is like native to Cuba or something but her dad is from Spain too I believe but he was born in Cuba, and my dad is also born and raised in Cuba but his great great grandparents immigrated from Spain to Cuba.

Then there’s this picture
View attachment 3722861
Yes you could say it’s a bad pic and it is, but my fave is fully relaxed here, like as relaxed as I could get it, bad uee good philtrum I would say, bad symmetry and my nose again man, just looks wide and like a pig, I want you guys to imagine all the pressure this was putting on my brain, I was failing school I failed 9th could barely concentrate, like I was a failure and now I blame it on extreme compression of the brain caused by my biomechanics as Ken would say, “collapsing” but anyways enough of this, let’s get to me trying to fix it.

Here’s one of the first times I angled my head lower to make it look like how a NT person would have it. View attachment 3722862
In this pic, my ears are finally in the correct positioning, my forehead is great, but feminine due to lack of actual development, chin cooked, that fat under my jaw is my tongue and barely any fat lol, IE pretty much, no space for it, and again I was puckering here too lol. I would say I had slight foward head posture, and I never sticked with it Because I hanged out with my friends at the mall where a lot of people I knew went, and I’m not going to look chopped in front of my ex and all the Stacie’s, so I, like always, returned to my “unnatural” head positioning which was already destroying me.

View attachment 3722869
In this picture, I somehow managed to look better? But I think it was because I stopped going out as much and I gave it a solid maybe week or a little bit more, like me actually putting my head like that, and maybe that did something with the constant stretch of my neck muscles, stretching soft tissues allowing my bones to go back to their natural state, again I was puckering my lips here, and my maxilla destroyed, although it isn’t much better now.



Anyways back to the first picture, you guys saw how my ears where literally pointing west, idk how I wasn’t dead, I felt sort of dead, kind off, but anyways here’s me now ig, again before you say anything, this is only 2 months or prob even less after I bought the mouthguard, I’m self conscious and will be self conscious until the end of this journey, this was a big reason why I didn’t want to make the post now even tho I’ve seen changes, and I wanted to wait until the very end, because I knew even if the changes are saw where there, I would still be self conscious and not content with my current results when I knew if I waited a year or two, I would be unrecognizable, I have not taken a lot of pictures and videos, again bc of my self consciousness, so the ones I am about to show you might say they aren’t good quality or something, and the most straight away change you will see is my side profile, and eyes, and nose, which were the most mindblowing results and The first thing I will show, is a front video, i posted this on my insta, I was relaxed, except I was squinting a bit, Here’s the video,


I understand if you guys take this with a grain of sand, but like I said, I’m just not yet confident enough to take more. Anyways enough of the confidence chat, here’s the side profile,

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The first thing I want you to notice is the lips, they are completely relaxed, like as relaxed as they can be, I can’t say how happy I am to Atleast look normal without having to force anything. I’m going to show you guys the previous lip where I was puckering and then now, the space from my lip and nose, relaxed vs puckering View attachment 3722907
View attachment 3722938 Insane difference man, just insane, and mind you? I was completely relaxed, I will also say this, my face is almost completely symmetrical now, and no I won’t be showing proof as like I’ve said previously, still not confident, but I really cannot tell you guys, how big of a difference it had made in a short amount of time. If it can help me why can it not help you? Just buy it dude doesn’t even have to be reviv just any flatplane mouthguard, although I recommend reviv because of true size dimensions and how you never know if other mouthguards have pfas or not, also if it breaks they give you free replacements up to two times, so just buy it, don’t get braces or palate expanders or anything, dont get surgery at all, don’t get anything, don’t just wear the mouthguard for a year or two, you will see during this timeframe you will get AMAZING results, I’ve already gotten amazing results that people would think is only possible thru surgery or what not in two months, IMAGINE A YEAR, IMAGINE 2! Dm me for any questions and if too many people dm me and I don’t reply I’ll just post a video with wearing instructions, but besides this, as a bonus I’ll add even more old pictures of me, and how my eye area has improved. Thank you for reading this whole thing!

(Eye area video)


Like I’ve said, I’m still recessed, still not where I want to be, and in the after side profile pic I’m squinting slightly, but anyways, the changed are obvious, my hair has grown a lot so it does cover my ears.
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(Also before anybody says (oh he still has alot of uee based on this video) no, the only reason any uee showed here was because I was tilting my head to the side to show my ears bc I was trying to look at myself, just had to get it out so I didn’t have to respond to everyone in the comments.

Slayer....

 

[cutecoolnerdboy]

Slayer....

Thank you man, but not yet.. not yet

 

[futureashtray]

Literally the opposite of overthinking it.


instead of doing all these surgeries, braces, palate expanders, thumb pulling what ever it may be, the simplest solution and the only true solution in my books, is wearing a flatplane mouthguard that adds height and unclocks the occlusion, that’s it.
I do not know how simpler it gets, how could this ever possibly be “overthinking it”

this is not the simplest solution. this can help but it’s literally just a mouth guard that prevents bruxism while promoting nose breathing while sleeping.

maybe if used on a toddler or a ten year old would it possibly expand the palate somewhat but that’s basically it.

OP thinks it’s his mouth guard when in REALITY he literally grew because he is in the middle of fucking puberty.

you probably don’t even know what mse and braces are for specifically. You all don’t know

Just blindly believe anyone and anything like fucking idiots. This is the new fucking snake oil. Makes me want to make bold claims with random before and after pictures while reselling mouth guards from alibaba for 20x the original price

 

[cutecoolnerdboy]

this is not the simplest solution. this can help but it’s literally just a mouth guard that prevents bruxism while promoting nose breathing while sleeping.

maybe if used on a toddler or a ten year old would it possibly expand the palate somewhat but that’s basically it.

OP thinks it’s his mouth guard when in REALITY he literally grew because he is in the middle of fucking puberty.

you probably don’t even know what mse and braces are for specifically. You all don’t know

Just blindly believe anyone and anything like fucking idiots. This is the new fucking snake oil. Makes me want to make bold claims with random before and after pictures while reselling mouth guards from alibaba for 20x the original price

Bro.. check the new post about palate, and abt the mouthguard being resold, yes R1 was a mouthguard he resold but not for 20x the price, it literally costs 17 bucks or something off Temu and he’s selling it for 25 dollars, but besides this he designed r2 all by himself, the mold and the design, he even said he took inspiration from the A1 myobrace, you just don’t know what ur talking abt, and it’s cheaper than a myobrace and they both provide the same function

it’s not to prevent bruxism, I mean yea sure, it prevents it cause it’s a mouthguard, but it’s literally to allow the bones in ur skull to return to the correct position, MSE and BRACES will mess up your skull, if your palate is narrow your whole skull is already messed up, if you expand it unnaturally you are only gonna mess it up more and end up with more problems and asymmetries, imagine the skull as a crushed can, you can’t only fix one part of the can, you have to inflate the whole can aswell or else you are only fixing part of it and making even more compensations somewhere else.

braces literally will mess you up and give Brain fog,
I’m 16, my whole skull has changed in a month and 24 days, imagine a whole year, two years.

 

[cutecoolnerdboy]

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this is not the simplest solution. this can help but it’s literally just a mouth guard that prevents bruxism while promoting nose breathing while sleeping.

maybe if used on a toddler or a ten year old would it possibly expand the palate somewhat but that’s basically it.

OP thinks it’s his mouth guard when in REALITY he literally grew because he is in the middle of fucking puberty.

you probably don’t even know what mse and braces are for specifically. You all don’t know

Just blindly believe anyone and anything like fucking idiots. This is the new fucking snake oil. Makes me want to make bold claims with random before and after pictures while reselling mouth guards from alibaba for 20x the original price

nd how is this not the simplest solution? Literally any 7 dollar mouthguard like the one I have that is flatplane, unlocks the occlusion and adds height will do the job, like how is that not THE SIMPLEST, you pop something in ur mouth while sleeping that stretches the soft tissue and allows the bones to return to their natural position, as easy as it gets bro, ur claim is already wrong.

 

[futureashtray]

Bro.. check the new post about palate, and abt the mouthguard being resold, yes R1 was a mouthguard he resold but not for 20x the price, it literally costs 17 bucks or something off Temu and he’s selling it for 25 dollars, but besides this he designed r2 all by himself, the mold and the design, he even said he took inspiration from the A1 myobrace, you just don’t know what ur talking abt, and it’s cheaper than a myobrace and they both provide the same function

it’s not to prevent bruxism, I mean yea sure, it prevents it cause it’s a mouthguard, but it’s literally to allow the bones in ur skull to return to the correct position, MSE and BRACES will mess up your skull, if your palate is narrow your whole skull is already messed up, if you expand it unnaturally you are only gonna mess it up more and end up with more problems and asymmetries, imagine the skull as a crushed can, you can’t only fix one part of the can, you have to inflate the whole can aswell or else you are only fixing part of it and making even more compensations somewhere else.

braces literally will mess you up and give Brain fog,
I’m 16, my whole skull has changed in a month and 24 days, imagine a whole year, two years.

you have to be a salesman.

explain how MSE expands the palate “unnaturally”


omfg, you seriously need to educate yourself on orthodontic appliances and the anatomy/physiology of the skull and the structures around it

 

[cutecoolnerdboy]

you have to be a salesman.

explain how MSE expands the palate “unnaturally”


omfg, you seriously need to educate yourself on orthodontic appliances and the anatomy/physiology of the skull and the structures around it

Dude, it’s literally applying force on the palate, it’s widening it, and just that the palate, I’ve said this before if you even actually read it, ( think of the skull as a crushed can, if something is wrong, the whole skull is wrong, the skull is made up of 22 bones, one bone can’t be messed up and think the other 21 are fine, this is why I say if you expand ur palate, unaturally like this, it will only lead to MORE issues, and MORE compensations, braces, same thing, obviously teeth are not straight for a reason, more times than not a narrow palate, so you can’t just force the teeth into an unnatural position, the teeth are crooked for a REASON.