Prove me wrong: as an atheist, there is no reason to care about morality except for ego gratification

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Why care about "morality" if there is no god to punish you for "evil"? Unless you care about your ego, that is, which many of you insecure faggots do

you should be ruthless psychopaths if you dont believe in god
 
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True tbh. If I didn't believe in god I'd be literally raping/torturing/killing babies for fun rn
 
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True tbh. If I didn't believe in god I'd be literally raping/torturing/killing babies for fun
not entirely true

you would be raping them for fun if you knew normie sheep wouldnt attack you for it
 
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This is true. Moral is subjective
 
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Why care about "morality" if there is no god to punish you for "evil"? Unless you care about your ego, that is, which many of you insecure faggots do

you should be ruthless psychopaths if you dont believe in god
inb4 5 pages

Also I choose to not do anything outside of the law due to it being illegal and giving me possible
jail time

As far as anything else which is both legal and immoral I might do it depending on what it is.
 
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then what "subjective morality" do you care about?
Everyone acquired a moral throughout life, mainly due to their genes (personality), environment, experience, etc.
 
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True tbh. If I didn't believe in god I'd be literally raping/torturing/killing babies for fun rn
not entirely true

you would be raping them for fun if you knew normie sheep wouldnt attack you for it
This but almost unironically
You guys think you would be high T like this:
Tenor


but in reality after they starting pleading and begging for you not to you would instantly go to this:
Cry


You've been taught for too long that it's wrong and it would conflict too much with your internal morals ngl. maybe if you were raised with no morality you could handle it.
 
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not entirely true

you would be raping them for fun if you knew normie sheep wouldnt attack you for it
As long as I don't get caught I wouldn't care tbh.
It's just I have this fear that there might some higher power who'd burn me eternally in hell for doing something like that.
 
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Yes and thats why I wonder why athiests dont commit suicide? No offense to them
 
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Humans have morality cause we used to require social connections to survive. In the past God didnt punish you, your tribe did.
 
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Everyone acquired a moral throughout life, mainly due to their genes (personality), environment, experience, etc.
how does this disprove me?
 
Humans have morality cause we used to require social connections to survive. In the past God didnt punish you, your tribe did.
incorrect, social acceptable behavior and morality are not the same
 
You talk so much but you never do anything
 
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Why care about "morality" if there is no god to punish you for "evil"? Unless you care about your ego, that is, which many of you insecure faggots do

you should be ruthless psychopaths if you dont believe in god
Furthermore, after you're dead it won't matter if you lived a good life or were tortured, raped, and starved. You wouldn't know one bit of difference after it's all said and done, if God didn't exist and there was no afterlife.
 
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you dont do shit

you're afraid to speak your opinion on a forum

people like you should kill yourselves
you're hiding behind a screen and acting like you're some low inhib god when in fact you're a stunted man child
 
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Funny how losers like you still find ways to stroke your ego by claiming to be superior to "normies." Have fun spending your whole life online.

Just because you don't believe in God, doesn't mean he wont punish you. But freewill doesn't exist anyway so its not really you doing what you do.
 
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Funny how losers like you still find ways to stroke the ego by claiming to be superior to "normies." Have fun spending your whole life online.

Just because you don't believe in God, doesn't mean he wont punish you. But freewill doesn't exist anyway so its not really you doing what you do.
He’s not even incel his looksmatch male has a LTR by now

He is wasting his life Rn and all potential he has
 
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He’s not even incel his looksmatch male has a LTR by now

He is wasting his life Rn and all potential he has
Damn. By reading his post you think he'd be doing some crazy shit defying the norms of society but instead he's sitting in his room his whole life. No one gives af about his moral positions.
 
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Keep wasting your life and making excuses for your failures “muh im too good for them” “I’m superior to them”
you needed to report me like a little scared sheep you are

"oh no dont tell people my age"
 
As far as anything else which is both legal and immoral I might do it depending on what it is.
you won't do it if it deviates greatly from social norms
 
OP have you read the ego and its own?
if not you should i think you'd like it
 
Damn. By reading his post you think he'd be doing some crazy shit defying the norms of society but instead he's sitting in his room his whole life. No one gives af about his moral positions.
lmao you're the same one who whined "muh loser" in my other thread explaining how women can enjoy rape. its clear you do care enough that you need to post in my thread voicing your view that i'm some "loser"

kill yourself greycel
 
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Even without law and police forces people werent just killing each other left and right, especially not in their own communities. People are naturally averse to hurting each other. At least men are
 
Because laws exist and actions have repurcussions lol. Not everyone is trying to end up in jail.

Also most morals are social constructs indoctrinated into people. If you were born in another part of the earth your moral values would be very different.
 
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Because laws exist and actions have repurcussions lol. Not everyone is trying to end up in jail.

Also most morals are social constructs indoctrinated into people. If you were born in another part of the earth your moral values would be very different.
there are actions that are "immoral" that would not have legal/social repercussions that people shudder at doing
because the law is largely based on morals and that is still there to punish you

people are born with the capacity for empathy, compassion, common sense, etc.

the purpose of morality is ultimately to act in a way that is conducive to a happy, healthy, cooperative and successful community.
read above, there are actions that are legally/socially acceptable, yet people still have inhibitions and will say "I wont do that because its wrong"

you, yourself, actually decided to destroy titbot on that internet chat, most would see that as "immoral"
 
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Because laws exist and actions have repurcussions lol. Not everyone is trying to end up in jail.

Also most morals are social constructs indoctrinated into people. If you were born in another part of the earth your moral values would be very different.
i dont know the name for this

but dont ppl generally (not the genetic defect 'dark triads') tend to be happier seeing ppl around them prosper under their influence rather than suffer? even controlled for presence/lack of religious beliefs. would make sense that most ppl would inherently rly dislike seeing violence & prefer "morality" despite not believing/caring abt god then.
 
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You guys think you would be high T like this:
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but in reality after they starting pleading and begging for you not to you would instantly go to this:
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You've been taught for too long that it's wrong and it would conflict too much with your internal morals ngl. maybe if you were raised with no morality you could handle it.
disagree, you're just projecting your inhibitions onto me
 
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i dont know the name for this

but dont ppl generally (not the genetic defect 'dark triads') tend to be happier seeing ppl around them prosper under their influence rather than suffer? even controlled for presence/lack of religious beliefs. would make sense that most ppl would inherently rly dislike seeing violence & prefer "morality" despite not believing/caring abt god then.
go on a vacation though, and you will still have these inhibitions
 
If the only reason why you don't murder or commit crimes is because you are scared of space Daddy punishing you. Then you should be removed from the human gene pool. You're no better than a cannibalistic animal if you enjoy harming your kind.

Also why do most religious people say if I would be atheist I would just decapitate people for fun. Just shows that religious people are the most immoral people out there. Being moral for the sake of fear of being punished is super retarded. While being moral because of empathy and understanding or mutual benefit is the natural way.
 
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If the only reason why you don't murder or commit crimes is because you are scared of space Daddy punishing you. Then you should be removed from the human gene pool. You're no better than a cannibalistic animal if you enjoy harming your kind.

Also why do most religious people say if I would be atheist I would just decapitate people for fun. Just shows that religious people are the most immoral people out there. Being moral for the sake of fear of being punished is super retarded. While being moral because of empathy and understanding or mutual benefit is the natural way.
jfl you make it so simple

obviously if you have people close to you, you would treat them nicely

the thing is that humans have enemies, which they show inhibitions towards because of "morals".
 
go on a vacation though, and you will still have these inhibitions
offtopic question but what is your hair and eye color pinkwell. also most religious people including myself young jamaican christian boy were indoctrinated into it, it's up to you to continue your beliefs when you're older, personally I'm not much of a believer but I still go to Church because it makes me feel better unironically
 
im not rly sure what u mean?
i mean, when you go on vacation, you will come across people you have zero connection to, yet if you got into tension with them, your moral inhibitions would stop you from unleashing pure wrath upon them
offtopic question but what is your hair and eye color pinkwell. also most religious people including myself young jamaican christian boy were indoctrinated into it, it's up to you to continue your beliefs when you're older, personally I'm not much of a believer but I still go to Church because it makes me feel better unironically
jfl, hazel eyes, dark hair
 
jfl you make it so simple

obviously if you have people close to you, you would treat them nicely

the thing is that humans have enemies, which they show inhibitions towards because of "morals".
Doesn't matter. If everyone would kill each other on the dumbest things people would take revenge by killing family members. Society would crumble. It's not even about religion. But rules exist so that humans can have a functioning society if everyone does whatever the fuck they want then we don't have education healthcare or progress regarding anything. Just ooga booga dark ages.
 
Doesn't matter. If everyone would kill each other on the dumbest things people would take revenge by killing family members. Society would crumble. It's not even about religion. But rules exist so that humans can have a functioning society if everyone does whatever the fuck they want then we don't have education healthcare or progress regarding anything. Just ooga booga dark ages.
"if everyone acted like that"

i'm not talking about everyone though, i'm talking about the individual
 
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i mean, when you go on vacation, you will come across people you have zero connection to, yet if you got into tension with them, your moral inhibitions would stop you from unleashing pure wrath upon them
yeah but thats not rly a 'fear of god' thing, most ppl just dont like seeing ppl suffering no matter who it is (unless they have some vendetta against them). most ppl would never be able to brutally torture another person unless they gain a lot from it & even when they do take advantage of others, they prefer to either dissociate themselves from or dehumanize the victims.
 
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"if everyone acted like that"

i'm not talking about everyone though, i'm talking about the individual
An individual can't just kill people without consequences in the real world. Unless he is a king or some shit. If a random guy kills someone I love I'm going to kill him as revenge. That's just human nature. We are wired for revenge. A few corrupt individuals will cause a domino effect on society. An eye for an eye results in family feuds and eventually war which will destroy society. You can't take an individual who is part of a society without him affecting society in some way. It's just not possible
 
An individual can't just kill people without consequences in the real world. Unless he is a king or some shit. If a random guy kills someone I love I'm going to kill him as revenge. That's just human nature. We are wired for revenge. A few corrupt individuals will cause a domino effect on society. An eye for an eye results in family feuds and eventually war which will destroy society. You can't take an individual who is part of a society without him affecting society in some way. It's just not possible
lmao you see, you're acting like everyone who acts immoral, does it without strategy

in reality, immoral people do these things discretely without drawing attention to themselves. so this "revenge" factor, wouldn't matter
 
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lmao you see, you're acting like everyone who acts immoral, does it without strategy

in reality, immoral people do these things discretely without drawing attention to themselves. so this "revenge" factor, wouldn't matter
Big cope. People will notice
 
yeah but thats not rly a 'fear of god' thing, most ppl just dont like seeing ppl suffering no matter who it is (unless they have some vendetta against them). most ppl would never be able to brutally torture another person unless they gain a lot from it & even when they do take advantage of others, they prefer to either dissociate themselves from or dehumanize the victims.
true, but some people get an impulse to attack them, then another inner voice tells the "don't do that, its wrong"

in reality, the voice should be "don't do that, at least right now, because they may seek revenge"
Big cope. People will notice
big cope by you, there are ways to do things discreetly
 
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Funny how losers like you still find ways to stroke your ego by claiming to be superior to "normies." Have fun spending your whole life online.

Just because you don't believe in God, doesn't mean he wont punish you. But freewill doesn't exist anyway so its not really you doing what you do.
hard determinist? would u like to debate on whether or not hard determinism actually deserves even an ounce of respect as a philosophical concept?
 
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