Proving HEIGHT>>>FACE once and for all.

I see what you're saying, and I agree with a few points, but I think the argument needs some nuance.

First, about height being a multiplier: sure, it increases the pool of women who might consider you, but the dominance and physical presence height brings isn’t just additive; it’s foundational.

Here's a study by St Andrews that shows height is directly tied to perceptions of masculinity and dominance, which women are biologically wired to find attractive. It’s less about tall guys being "too intimidating"; it’s about height creating an initial "baseline appeal" that face alone can’t replicate.

Okay, so now the 2006 study, a 33% difference in matches between 5’9 and 6’6 is actually massive when you think about it, these are both tall-ish guys compared to the real struggles of men under 5’7. 5'9 would merely be about average, not truly short.
That gap isn’t just a "halo effect" being overstated; it’s height acting as a dealbreaker for many women on apps. Here's an article on height bias in dating that supports this, a lot of short men often don’t even get a chance to compete.

But I get your point about tall and ugly guys being intimidating, but that’s an edge case. The majority of tall men still benefit from height, even if their face isn’t great. Height amplifies other traits, but it can also stand on its own in a way that face can’t.

Now, about Johnny Depp: his looks definitely helped, but you’re overlooking the fact that his fame and status fundamentally skew the argument. Regular guys don’t have access to those "multipliers." His success isn’t about his height or even just his face; it’s about access and fame, which are outliers in normal dating dynamics.

TLDR: height isn’t just a multiplier, it’s often the foundation. A short guy with a great face will still struggle compared to a tall, average-looking guy because height signals dominance and protection in a way that face can’t.
I think I agree with you on the point that it is foundational. But the problem tbh is that girls also desire prettyboys and one could argue that too is foundational and that height cant create that appeal. I would say its 50/50. 50% of girls prefer a relationship with a tall average guy and 50% prefer a relationship with a prettyboy but dont mind so much about height.

6'6 vs 5'8

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I would personally say height matters more to older roasties who tend to care more about dimorphism and masculinity like you said. Because I think they dont like seeing a man that looks more youthful and attractive than them as it reminds them of something that they no longer possess. I dont neccesarily think dimorphism and masculinity is that much of a positive trait for younger foids. An average amount of dimorphism is ideal and there are attractive guys at all ends of the dimorphism spectrum for face. OFC for height its a massive boost and multiplier.

Now for the 33%. Look what we are doing is essentially comparing a completely average height to a chad height. Now the 33% may LOOK massive but if you think about it. Would an MTN face only recieve 33% less dates than a chad face? I do not think so personally. Because this would settle the main argument that height is more important than face completely.

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Imagine if these two men were both 5'9. Do you think the one on the left would only receive 33% more dates? If no then this illustrates that face is a bigger boost than height.

Yeah ofc height does a create a stand alone halo but tbh a turbo manlet chad would also have a halo in the same way. And he could quite easily boost his height with lifts to get to only below average height. And he would still have more appeal tbh as again the demographic for short petite foids which can be found in southern europe easily that want a handsome guy is much higher than for the ones that demand a tall ugly ogre.

But I get what your saying. I do agree to a large extent that outside of dating height is a massive boost. It creates dominance that is required in the workplace to tell other guys to back off basically like the st andrews study stated. So I agree that it is better to be tall if your talking about male competition for fields such as a career.

Also height is VERY softmaxxable tbh. 2 inch lifts can be very easily used and I have even seen 7 inch boots that you could probably get away with if you used some long baggy trousers HGF:lul::lul::lul:. Its more difficult to softmaxx face because unless your using makeup you need to stick to a routine for a long time which requires more effort.

The point about john depp that im trying is that he come from nothing right. His parents worked completely normal middle class jobs. What im saying is, that reason why he got to that level is because he appeared in smaller movies first. Girls thirsted for him and that is why he got future roles. And im saying that this is completely unachievable if your a tall average like will poulter. Yes ofc provided halos afterwards but im saying he only got to the place to get halos in the first place is because of his face.

And its not really fair to say "A short guy with a great face will still struggle compared to a tall, average-looking guy because height signals dominance and protection in a way that face can’t." Obviously thats not a fair comparison HGFF. Tall average vs average height chad would be a more fair comparison because your taking one thing from a rare point of the normal distribution spectrum and one thing that is average is. And I would have to say the chad would 100% slay way more than the tall average guy theres not even any way that someone like damian kater would slay less than someone like will poulter.
 
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IDC WHAT YOU SAY this is clearly a GL/HTN guy. Just due to his 5'6 height he spiraled down this rabbit hole. Literally 4 inches of bone in his Tibia and he'd be a Russian Slayer. All the women who showed him interest treated him like shit after finding his height.
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HEIGHT>FACE.

This is truly a tough topic for many to accept. As a shorter guy you need to be compensating in so many ways yet still people will drag you down for something you can never change.

"JUST BE TOM CRUISE BRO" :feelswah::feelswah::feelswah:
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- BE 5'8 (not even short 1 inch under the average :eek:)
- BE A HOLLYWOOD SUPERMODEL
- HAVE 0.001% GENETIC MAKEUP
- UNDERGO MULTIPLE FACIAL SURGERIES


EVEN AFTER ALL THIS YOU MUST WEAR ELEVATOR SHOES AND ALLOW THE DIRECTOR TO MAKE YOU APPEAR TALLER IN ALL THE CASTS :forcedsmile::forcedsmile::forcedsmile:

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JUST LOL @ GETTING HEIGHTMOGGED BY WOMEN DESPITE WEARING 10CM ELEVATORS :lul::lul:
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HERE IS THE COLD HARSH TRUTH ABOUT HEIGHT: :blackpill::blackpill::blackpill:
(WARNING: SHIVERS MAY RUN DOWN YOUR SPINE)


- taken from Lookism.

REMEMBER GUYS, LIFE STARTS AT 5'9+ TAKE ALL THE HGH, TAKE ALL THE ROIDS UNDER THE SKY. SAVE AS MUCH AS YOU CAN FOR LIMB LENGHTHENING @ PALEY. YOU CAN BE A 6FT DRUGGIE YET STILL FIND SOMEONE HOWEVER EVEN THE NICEST 5'5 GUYS HAVE TO TRY HARD. BOTH THE PEOPLE DOWN BELOW ARE 6'2+ BTW
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Is he for real dead? What’s his user
 
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Shit thread tbh
 
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IDC WHAT YOU SAY this is clearly a GL/HTN guy. Just due to his 5'6 height he spiraled down this rabbit hole. Literally 4 inches of bone in his Tibia and he'd be a Russian Slayer. All the women who showed him interest treated him like shit after finding his height.
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HEIGHT>FACE.

This is truly a tough topic for many to accept. As a shorter guy you need to be compensating in so many ways yet still people will drag you down for something you can never change.

"JUST BE TOM CRUISE BRO" :feelswah::feelswah::feelswah:
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- BE 5'8 (not even short 1 inch under the average :eek:)
- BE A HOLLYWOOD SUPERMODEL
- HAVE 0.001% GENETIC MAKEUP
- UNDERGO MULTIPLE FACIAL SURGERIES


EVEN AFTER ALL THIS YOU MUST WEAR ELEVATOR SHOES AND ALLOW THE DIRECTOR TO MAKE YOU APPEAR TALLER IN ALL THE CASTS :forcedsmile::forcedsmile::forcedsmile:

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JUST LOL @ GETTING HEIGHTMOGGED BY WOMEN DESPITE WEARING 10CM ELEVATORS :lul::lul:
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HERE IS THE COLD HARSH TRUTH ABOUT HEIGHT: :blackpill::blackpill::blackpill:
(WARNING: SHIVERS MAY RUN DOWN YOUR SPINE)


- taken from Lookism.

REMEMBER GUYS, LIFE STARTS AT 5'9+ TAKE ALL THE HGH, TAKE ALL THE ROIDS UNDER THE SKY. SAVE AS MUCH AS YOU CAN FOR LIMB LENGHTHENING @ PALEY. YOU CAN BE A 6FT DRUGGIE YET STILL FIND SOMEONE HOWEVER EVEN THE NICEST 5'5 GUYS HAVE TO TRY HARD. BOTH THE PEOPLE DOWN BELOW ARE 6'2+ BTW
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Another reason why you shouldnt date online ltbs larp like SL and want 7'10 height come on just be smart
 
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Not a molecule face > height
 
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This guy was an active poster on r/shortguys and other short men related subs. Many active posters tried contacting him too yet they all came to the same consensus.

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IDC WHAT YOU SAY this is clearly a GL/HTN guy. Just due to his 5'6 height he spiraled down this rabbit hole. Literally 4 inches of bone in his Tibia and he'd be a Russian Slayer. All the women who showed him interest treated him like shit after finding his height.
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HEIGHT>FACE.

This is truly a tough topic for many to accept. As a shorter guy you need to be compensating in so many ways yet still people will drag you down for something you can never change.

"JUST BE TOM CRUISE BRO" :feelswah::feelswah::feelswah:
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- BE 5'8 (not even short 1 inch under the average :eek:)
- BE A HOLLYWOOD SUPERMODEL
- HAVE 0.001% GENETIC MAKEUP
- UNDERGO MULTIPLE FACIAL SURGERIES


EVEN AFTER ALL THIS YOU MUST WEAR ELEVATOR SHOES AND ALLOW THE DIRECTOR TO MAKE YOU APPEAR TALLER IN ALL THE CASTS :forcedsmile::forcedsmile::forcedsmile:

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JUST LOL @ GETTING HEIGHTMOGGED BY WOMEN DESPITE WEARING 10CM ELEVATORS :lul::lul:
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HERE IS THE COLD HARSH TRUTH ABOUT HEIGHT: :blackpill::blackpill::blackpill:
(WARNING: SHIVERS MAY RUN DOWN YOUR SPINE)


- taken from Lookism.

REMEMBER GUYS, LIFE STARTS AT 5'9+ TAKE ALL THE HGH, TAKE ALL THE ROIDS UNDER THE SKY. SAVE AS MUCH AS YOU CAN FOR LIMB LENGHTHENING @ PALEY. YOU CAN BE A 6FT DRUGGIE YET STILL FIND SOMEONE HOWEVER EVEN THE NICEST 5'5 GUYS HAVE TO TRY HARD. BOTH THE PEOPLE DOWN BELOW ARE 6'2+ BTW
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Nothing in the world can take the place of a tall jacked man thus communicates pure masculinity and no face can change that
 
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Nothing in the world can take the place of a tall jacked man thus communicates pure masculinity and no face can change that
finally someone not coping. Being tall is literally signal of peak masculinity
 
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finally someone not coping. Being tall is literally signal of peak masculinity
Height and frame both m. GL manlets are invisible it’s a literal curse being a manlet. My manlet friend was literal incel tier
 
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So, the minimum height is 5'9?
 
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demanding him to be at least 190 is insane
Why not 180
What a spoilt whore
God damn
He asked how much she preferred, not what she would be ok with.
Most girls are ok with you just being average, because guess what most guys are within that range and are in relationships
Face and height are equally important, just being taller than your partner and having other good traits it's enough if you are NT
 
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He asked how much she preferred, not what she would be ok with.
Most girls are ok with you just being average, because guess what most guys are within that range and are in relationships
Face and height are equally important, just being taller than your partner and having other good traits it's enough if you are NT
The average is 5'9 or 5'10?
 
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Height is cope. It's all about the face.
 
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average vexbolts & yesquad viewe
Lookisk is wrong 6ft2 is literraly the 95th percentile
That means in a 100 people only 5 are 6ft2 or taller
And that’s in the US
But everywhere youll go youll be above average at 6ft2 even if you go to the fucking netherlands you’ll be above average
And that give teenagers a lot of hope
I mean its not that hard
Supposing your genetics allow you to grow till 5ft9 then your growth plates closes at 18
(That supposing you eated high nutrient foods played sport slep long enough stretched exposed yourself to the sun…..)
If you spam an aromatize inhibitor who would add an extraa year of growth that mean your growth plates would close later (19-20 years now)
And that you use hgh or Secreataguogues or growth factor (you’ll grow 1.05-1.25x depending on your genetics and what you use)
Which realistically make you atleast at 6ft2
And all the side effect of ai and hgh derivatives could all be mitigated with ancillaries
If your a Teenager 14-15 I would moneymaaxx like their is no tommorow (i wasn’t lucky enough i was born in a 3rd world country so im fucking poor pm for coashing but im 6ft1 so i dont mind)

Summar of my hopecore for teenagers :
6ft-6ft2 is realistic for the average org teenager nigga
Our enemy isn’t genetic but money and dedication
 
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Water and water height is the most important thing for men if you are under 6' you don't deserve anything you fucking midget piece of shit
Height height height height over anything height is law , height is king height is saviour height is lord
This. Average-slightly above average is good enough at 6'5, being tall is how most "slayers" (never liked that gay ass term) are born. Good face is way rarer, good frame needs something else, big d requires reputation and exposure, etc.
 
Lol lil nga Joined:- Dec 31, 2024 You are insignificant You do not hold much intelligence in that empty vessel called "brain" of yours, And thou shalt dare to tell me to the most Degenerate act of unaliving oneself at the state utmost confusion? Fuark GrAYcel
Why did bro Shakespearemaxx in the middle of the conversation 💀💀💀
 
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bro LL costs 200k not 2k who tf is saving up for that
Stop spreading missinformation. LL is literally between 10k and 280k Depends what you get. If you get average LL internal you pay like 40-50k per segment. Since he was 5"6 he could have done LL on femur to 5"9.5 and then frauded to 5"11 with lifts.
 
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dnr, too long for my grey brain
 
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Good thread and its water knowledge for anyone that goes outside regularly, I see tall mid guys with women all the time.
 
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no, literally no one not even men will respect you for your height.

Height has become much more important with social media etc. Years ago most females didn't ding a guy nearly as much as they do now. Now once a female is in her 20s in the west most of them won't date a guy that is under 5'10 and many won't date a guy under 6'.
 
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You need both to sufficient degrees. One can compensate for the other to an extent, but ideally you need both solidly into Chad tier to mog.

“Just” plan on getting double LL + lifts after your facial surgeries. Simple :feelswhy:

Yea yea you’ll be an abused dog oldcel by the time you can afford it all, if ever.

But guess what, this world is cruel and uncaring, you either attempt to ascend late in life to get a taste of what could have been, or you rot forever. The choice is yours
 
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Stop spreading missinformation. LL is literally between 10k and 280k Depends what you get. If you get average LL internal you pay like 40-50k per segment. Since he was 5"6 he could have done LL on femur to 5"9.5 and then frauded to 5"11 with lifts.
just break your bones for 50k and become an abused dog bro
face surgeries are much easier to undergo than LL
 
Its so retarded to use extreme examples. The average height for slavic/european russians is around 180cm. 5'6=167cm is around 5th percentile, meaning that 95% of guys are taller than you. Now imagine someone who has a 5th percentile in facial attractiveness. Not even robert wadlow height can salvage that. Face is always more important unless you get in exteme territory with height. Depending on certain realities, either height or face could become more imporant. If you are 6'2 with an average face, gaining 1 point in facial attractiveness will have massive advantage over gaining 1 inch in height.
 
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Its so retarded to use extreme examples. The average height for slavic/european russians is around 180cm. 5'6=167cm is around 5th percentile, meaning that 95% of guys are taller than you. Now imagine someone who has a 5th percentile in facial attractiveness. Not even robert wadlow height can salvage that. Face is always more important unless you get in exteme territory with height. Depending on certain realities, either height or face could become more imporant. If you are 6'2 with an average face, gaining 1 point in facial attractiveness will have massive advantage over gaining 1 inch in height.
all inches matter under 5'9
no it isn't "extreme" less than 20% of males are over 6 feet in height
 
I agree. Height > face.
 
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This guy was an active poster on r/shortguys and other short men related subs. Many active posters tried contacting him too yet they all came to the same consensus.

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IDC WHAT YOU SAY this is clearly a GL/HTN guy. Just due to his 5'6 height he spiraled down this rabbit hole. Literally 4 inches of bone in his Tibia and he'd be a Russian Slayer. All the women who showed him interest treated him like shit after finding his height.
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HEIGHT>FACE.

This is truly a tough topic for many to accept. As a shorter guy you need to be compensating in so many ways yet still people will drag you down for something you can never change.

"JUST BE TOM CRUISE BRO" :feelswah::feelswah::feelswah:
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- BE 5'8 (not even short 1 inch under the average :eek:)
- BE A HOLLYWOOD SUPERMODEL
- HAVE 0.001% GENETIC MAKEUP
- UNDERGO MULTIPLE FACIAL SURGERIES


EVEN AFTER ALL THIS YOU MUST WEAR ELEVATOR SHOES AND ALLOW THE DIRECTOR TO MAKE YOU APPEAR TALLER IN ALL THE CASTS :forcedsmile::forcedsmile::forcedsmile:

View attachment 3395967

JUST LOL @ GETTING HEIGHTMOGGED BY WOMEN DESPITE WEARING 10CM ELEVATORS :lul::lul:
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HERE IS THE COLD HARSH TRUTH ABOUT HEIGHT: :blackpill::blackpill::blackpill:
(WARNING: SHIVERS MAY RUN DOWN YOUR SPINE)


- taken from Lookism.

REMEMBER GUYS, LIFE STARTS AT 5'9+ TAKE ALL THE HGH, TAKE ALL THE ROIDS UNDER THE SKY. SAVE AS MUCH AS YOU CAN FOR LIMB LENGHTHENING @ PALEY. YOU CAN BE A 6FT DRUGGIE YET STILL FIND SOMEONE HOWEVER EVEN THE NICEST 5'5 GUYS HAVE TO TRY HARD. BOTH THE PEOPLE DOWN BELOW ARE 6'2+ BTW
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Thats clearly ragebait cuz im 6'2 low mtn (got rated in mogwarts dc server ngl idk if its legit) and i cant pull shit
 
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IDC WHAT YOU SAY this is clearly a GL/HTN guy. Just due to his 5'6 height he spiraled down this rabbit hole. Literally 4 inches of bone in his Tibia and he'd be a Russian Slayer. All the women who showed him interest treated him like shit after finding his height.
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HEIGHT>FACE.

This is truly a tough topic for many to accept. As a shorter guy you need to be compensating in so many ways yet still people will drag you down for something you can never change.

"JUST BE TOM CRUISE BRO" :feelswah::feelswah::feelswah:
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- BE 5'8 (not even short 1 inch under the average :eek:)
- BE A HOLLYWOOD SUPERMODEL
- HAVE 0.001% GENETIC MAKEUP
- UNDERGO MULTIPLE FACIAL SURGERIES


EVEN AFTER ALL THIS YOU MUST WEAR ELEVATOR SHOES AND ALLOW THE DIRECTOR TO MAKE YOU APPEAR TALLER IN ALL THE CASTS :forcedsmile::forcedsmile::forcedsmile:

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JUST LOL @ GETTING HEIGHTMOGGED BY WOMEN DESPITE WEARING 10CM ELEVATORS :lul::lul:
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HERE IS THE COLD HARSH TRUTH ABOUT HEIGHT: :blackpill::blackpill::blackpill:
(WARNING: SHIVERS MAY RUN DOWN YOUR SPINE)


- taken from Lookism.

REMEMBER GUYS, LIFE STARTS AT 5'9+ TAKE ALL THE HGH, TAKE ALL THE ROIDS UNDER THE SKY. SAVE AS MUCH AS YOU CAN FOR LIMB LENGHTHENING @ PALEY. YOU CAN BE A 6FT DRUGGIE YET STILL FIND SOMEONE HOWEVER EVEN THE NICEST 5'5 GUYS HAVE TO TRY HARD. BOTH THE PEOPLE DOWN BELOW ARE 6'2+ BTW
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Im 184 in a country where the average guy is 170 at 15 n i pull zero bitches fym
 
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what the fuck?? :lul::lul::lul:

1. depends on your location
2. 5'7 isn't even "manlet". Yes it's short but it's the height where a good face can compensate. What if he was a 5'2 HTN?
Also the classic "I know a guy" Prettyboys get treated worse by every male in general, being short as well I'm sure he gets shit on. Read Pneumo's thread on how your friends slowly drag you down. Altho yes he could still have good female status.



Yes it's water being ugly sucks that's literally why we all are here. But being 6'2 and ugly can offset the effect much easier than being a 5'2 gl guy. You need to be very gl to have many dating options as a sub 5'6 guy. And yes I'm both too it's truly over :feelsbadman:
im from south italy im 5 foot 6 and an half to be precise, i fraud 5 foot 7 with shoelifts and yeah ofc, sometimes can happen that someone say that u are a "bit short" but nothing special.


It depends by where you live, if u are from russia being 5 foot 6 there is the same as being 5 foot 4/3 in italy.

i see many people as tall as me and in university i see some even shorter, so i am definitely short but girls dont have that much of a problem with that tbh
 
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just break your bones for 50k and become an abused dog bro
face surgeries are much easier to undergo than LL
Jfl. Face is much harder than LL.
 
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Thats clearly ragebait cuz im 6'2 low mtn (got rated in mogwarts dc server ngl idk if its legit) and i cant pull shit
mentalcel ramblings
 
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I would rope if i was a cumskinned manlet too
 
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Thats clearly ragebait cuz im 6'2 low mtn (got rated in mogwarts dc server ngl idk if its legit) and i cant pull shit
You would pull if you were 6’8 though
 
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HTN 6'4 ( or any height you want )
or
Chad 5'10

if you dont pick chad you are mentally ill
 
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Tom cruise has pulled alone in 10 years what you can't in 7 lifetimes bruh
Just say you're a tall fag. I'm 6' myself but I don't cope like this
Tom cruise is literally a 5'6 htn and gets constant attention for is face. there are fanclubs for him and communities of people that would let him do whatever he wants. and :ROFLMAO::lul:some random 6'6 guy thinks hes more attractive
 
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HTN 6'4 ( or any height you want )
or
Chad 5'10

if you dont pick chad you are mentally ill
Chad and its not even close i can just fraud being 6ft while being 5,10 there is no difference or just slightly shorter
 
HTN 6'4 ( or any height you want )
or
Chad 5'10

if you dont pick chad you are mentally ill
you are mentally ill if you think 5'10 is short
chad 5'2
or
HTN 6'2

now choose
 
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Tom cruise is literally a 5'6 htn and gets constant attention for is face. there are fanclubs for him and communities of people that would let him do whatever he wants. and :ROFLMAO::lul:some random 6'6 guy thinks hes more attractive
you didnt even read the post.
he's 5'8 and frauds 180 with lifts ALWAYS
he's Practically a 5'10 or 5'11 male in every setting

that alongside a genuine chad face carries him.
now imagine if he was 4'11
 
Women 100% prefer height. It's like a flex for them to date tall guys. Ofc every woman is gonna go around and tell "my boyfiee is a 10/10 tee-hee!!!" but only few can say "my boyfiee is 6'5 teehee". In simple words a tall guy is a status symbol for them.

Actually I didn't know about this perspective either but recently I've seen extremely viral tiktoks where girls just flex their guys height in the comments. Guess it's like dudes trying to flex their Stacies.
this doesn’t make sense because there’s a lot more tall guys than genuine good looking guys

you see 6’0+ men everywhere, but you don’t see genuine chads/chadlites on a daily basis

the rarer the more valuable it is, many women can get with an average/slightly above average tall man, not sure if that same equation applies for beautiful men.
 
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this doesn’t make sense because there’s a lot more tall guys than genuine good looking guys

you see 6’0+ men everywhere, but you don’t see genuine chads/chadlites on a daily basis

the rarer the more valuable it is, many women can get with an average/slightly above average tall man, not sure if that same equation applies for beautiful men.
high mtn+ is gl enough for normies. no one flexes their boyfriends as a face rating
 
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I see what you're saying, and I agree with a few points, but I think the argument needs some nuance.

First, about height being a multiplier: sure, it increases the pool of women who might consider you, but the dominance and physical presence height brings isn’t just additive; it’s foundational.

Here's a study by St Andrews that shows height is directly tied to perceptions of masculinity and dominance, which women are biologically wired to find attractive. It’s less about tall guys being "too intimidating"; it’s about height creating an initial "baseline appeal" that face alone can’t replicate.

Okay, so now the 2006 study, a 33% difference in matches between 5’9 and 6’6 is actually massive when you think about it, these are both tall-ish guys compared to the real struggles of men under 5’7. 5'9 would merely be about average, not truly short.
That gap isn’t just a "halo effect" being overstated; it’s height acting as a dealbreaker for many women on apps. Here's an article on height bias in dating that supports this, a lot of short men often don’t even get a chance to compete.

But I get your point about tall and ugly guys being intimidating, but that’s an edge case. The majority of tall men still benefit from height, even if their face isn’t great. Height amplifies other traits, but it can also stand on its own in a way that face can’t.

Now, about Johnny Depp: his looks definitely helped, but you’re overlooking the fact that his fame and status fundamentally skew the argument. Regular guys don’t have access to those "multipliers." His success isn’t about his height or even just his face; it’s about access and fame, which are outliers in normal dating dynamics.

TLDR: height isn’t just a multiplier, it’s often the foundation. A short guy with a great face will still struggle compared to a tall, average-looking guy because height signals dominance and protection in a way that face can’t.
yes if short means 5’6 or below
 
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high mtn+ is gl enough for normies. no one flexes their boyfriends as a face rating
i mean a genuine good looking guy bro think about damian kater (he isn’t even short) but for the sake of the thread compare average height with 95th percentile face vs average face 95th percentile height (6’2-6’3ish)

i promise you damian will do far more better
 
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