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PSL vs Appeal copes Eviscerated



For the past year or so, people have been constantly debating whether one can have high PSL, but low appeal and vice versa; if PSL & appeal are connected - or are completely separate from each other, and a lot of similar subjects. In this thread, we will dive deep into this topic, with the goal of covering as many questions, that can emerge in this debate, as possible.


First and foremost - we need to understand what exactly either of those terms mean. This may seem like water for 90% of users, but I would still insist you read through all of this, just to help you see the full picture later on.


The PSL Scale (or in this context, any other such established scale) is a measure of standalone FACIAL ATTRACTIVENESS.
It is calculated using a scoring system, which assesses four aspects: facial harmony; facial dimorphism; leanness/angularity and miscellaneous (skin/coloring/some features/etc.). The ideal ranges for all quantifiable measurements are derived from
peer-reviewed research papers & commonly agreed-upon, unbiased, vast sample clusters - in order to reach the highest extent of objectivity, whilst retaining lowest amounts of human error.


Classic examples of low vs. high PSL:
IMG 3163
vs.
IMG 3164


Appeal (to a certain group of people in this context) is created through adapting to an archetype & style/niche, which relates to a corresponding group/subgroup/niche/etc.

Examples of men appealing to young + alt vs. mature + normie foids:
IMG 3167
vs.
IMG 3169


Something looks off, doesn’t it?
When people debate this (usually in tiktok comments :feelswhy:), they basically put facial ratings against relatability to a certain group, which is inherently incorrect either way. So here is one more important definition for you:


SMV (sex market value) is a metric used to predict one’s frequency/quality of slaying (or to be precise, unconditional female attention in general). It consists of one’s height, frame, build, appeal breadth, status, and most importantly, you guessed it - PSL.


Classic example of low vs. high SMV:
IMG 3173


A more valid debate would be “PSL vs SMV”. Yet still, if PSL is a component of SMV, then it would make absolutely 0 sense to put them against each other, as one is but a part of the other.


So here is my main point: There is
no such thing as “muh high PSL low appeal (SMV)”. Since PSL makes up a massive chunk of SMV regardless, your score would be relatively high whether you had everything else, or not (only with the exception extremes, such as syndromic height, etc., of course). However, you CAN have relatively low PSL with relatively high SMV, if you possess other characteristics, which contribute to SMV.


Examples of lower PSL, but with other boosts vs. higher PSL on its own:
IMG 3181
vs.
IMG 3185

On the left, we have Horsemeet, and on the right - Zayn Malik.
Horsemeet is around high MTN facially, but is around
6'1, has a good frame, physique & niche.
Malik, on the other hand, is 58, with an average frame, physique & has a niche that is mainly directed at pop rock fans. However, in his prime, he was at the very least high CL, and some people would still call that an underrate, which I wouldn’t blame them for.
One could argue, that their status is completely different, but to be honest, they are both big enough to have a similar fame score in their niche, as it can only get so high.


This brings me to another point: PSL is still law in terms of Looksmaxing. I’ve heard people cope with “muh models like De Poot do have high PSL, but I don’t see foids thirsting after them; I could see Marlon slay infinitely more than him, even though he has lower PSL!”.
This, buddy boyo, is a good example of what I’ve mentioned before.
De Poot is a model. Models do weird shit. He usually wears weird shit, is skinny as shit, etc.; Yet still, it will take him infinitely less effort to
surpass Marlon in SMV, than for Marlon to surpass De Poot in PSL. If they both had exactly the same height, frame, physique & everything else, except for face - De Poot would still SMV mog, obviously.


Fellas, it’s not 2023 anymore. Please get a grip. People like Bass or Zeta do indeed have high “appeal”.

Thank you for reading my thread boyos. Love
.
 
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SMV (sex market value)

Isnt SMV sexual market value?
not sex market value
Or is it interchangeable
 
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malik isnt high cl hes like low cl
 
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Isnt SMV sexual market value?
not sex market value
Or is it interchangeable
grammatically i think sex market is the correct one
if you think about it, its not the market being sexual
its the sex being traded in the market:lul:
 
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malik isnt high cl hes like low cl
he is objectively hcl or low chad in his prime
either way tho, even if he was low lite, the point still stands
the difference between even hmtn and lcl is still huge
 
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grammatically i think sex market is the correct one
if you think about it, its mot the market being sexual
its the sex being traded in the market:lul:
makes sense tbh
Just unusual for it to be called that as Ive always seen it typed as "sexual market value"
But you my be correct in this
idk

also good thread
 
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he is objectively hcl or low chad in his prime
either way tho, even if he was low lite, the point still stands
the difference between even hmtn and lcl is still huge
62% harmony
7.5 angularity
8 features
7 dimorphism
7/10 low cl
 
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PSL vs Appeal copes Eviscerated



For the past year or so, people have been constantly debating whether one can have high PSL, but low appeal and vice versa; if PSL & appeal are connected - or are completely separate from each other, and a lot of similar subjects. In this thread, we will dive deep into this topic, with the goal of covering as many questions, that can emerge in this debate, as possible.


First and foremost - we need to understand what exactly either of those terms mean. This may seem like water for 90% of users, but I would still insist you read through all of this, just to help you see the full picture later on.


The PSL Scale (or in this context, any other such established scale) is a measure of standalone FACIAL ATTRACTIVENESS.
It is calculated using a scoring system, which assesses four aspects: facial harmony; facial dimorphism; leanness/angularity and miscellaneous (skin/coloring/some features/etc.). The ideal ranges for all quantifiable measurements are derived from
peer-reviewed research papers & commonly agreed-upon, unbiased, vast sample clusters - in order to reach the highest extent of objectivity, whilst retaining lowest amounts of human error.


Classic examples of low vs. high PSL:
View attachment 3776205 vs. View attachment 3776207


Appeal (to a certain group of people in this context) is created through adapting to an archetype & style/niche, which relates to a corresponding group/subgroup/niche/etc.

Examples of men appealing to young + alt vs. mature + normie foids:
View attachment 3776216 vs. View attachment 3776217


Something looks off, doesn’t it?
When people debate this (usually in tiktok comments :feelswhy:), they basically put facial ratings against relatability to a certain group, which is inherently incorrect either way. So here is one more important definition for you:


SMV (sex market value) is a metric used to predict one’s frequency/quality of slaying (or to be precise, unconditional female attention in general). It consists of one’s height, frame, build, appeal breadth, status, and most importantly, you guessed it - PSL.


Classic example of low vs. high SMV:
View attachment 3776229


A more valid debate would be “PSL vs SMV”. Yet still, if PSL is a component of SMV, then it would make absolutely 0 sense to put them against each other, as one is but a part of the other.


So here is my main point: There is
no such thing as “muh high PSL low appeal (SMV)”. Since PSL makes up a massive chunk of SMV regardless, your score would be relatively high whether you had everything else, or not (only with the exception extremes, such as syndromic height, etc., of course). However, you CAN have relatively low PSL with relatively high SMV, if you possess other characteristics, which contribute to SMV.


Examples of lower PSL, but with other boosts vs. higher PSL on its own:
View attachment 3776376 vs. View attachment 3776453

On the left, we have Horsemeet, and on the right - Zayn Malik.
Horsemeet is around high MTN facially, but is around
6'1, has a good frame, physique & niche.
Malik, on the other hand, is 58, with an average frame, physique & has a niche that is mainly directed at pop rock fans. However, in his prime, he was at the very least high CL, and some people would still call that an underrate, which I wouldn’t blame them for.
One could argue, that their status is completely different, but to be honest, they are both big enough to have a similar fame score in their niche, as it can only get so high.


This brings me to another point: PSL is still law in terms of Looksmaxing. I’ve heard people cope with “muh models like De Poot do have high PSL, but I don’t see foids thirsting after them; I could see Marlon slay infinitely more than him, even though he has lower PSL!”.
This, buddy boyo, is a good example of what I’ve mentioned before.
De Poot is a model. Models do weird shit. He usually wears weird shit, is skinny as shit, etc.; Yet still, it will take him infinitely less effort to
surpass Marlon in SMV, than for Marlon to surpass De Poot in PSL. If they both had exactly the same height, frame, physique & everything else, except for face - De Poot would still SMV mog, obviously.


Fellas, it’s not 2023 anymore. Please get a grip. People like Bass or Zeta do indeed have high “appeal”.

Thank you for reading my thread boyos. Love
.

Good thread man
 
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Investing in this thread
 
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"Sapphiremaxxing" 💔
Ik i have a retard fucking name bt i cant change it and it was kinda niche when i named myself it, though in absolute restrospect i coulda mad3 it 100 better things.
 
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nice thread btw
will bookmark to read later.
 
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Good read. Being attractive obviously matters a lot more than fitting desire groups.

The former comes first. I have seen though that some of the most attractive faces look very close to the composite average of that pheno.

Whereas the 0.0001% guys like Cilian Murphy who fit niches are exceptions despite having off features
 
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6.95*🤓
@coolio thoughts?
if someone can give me a decent frontal i can analyze him, i cant imagine that face being anything below 73% frontal tbh
 
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if someone can give me a decent frontal i can analyze him, i cant imagine that face being anything below 73% frontal tbh
exactly my thought
 
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if someone can give me a decent frontal i can analyze him, i cant imagine that face being anything below 73% frontal tbh

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PSL vs Appeal copes Eviscerated



For the past year or so, people have been constantly debating whether one can have high PSL, but low appeal and vice versa; if PSL & appeal are connected - or are completely separate from each other, and a lot of similar subjects. In this thread, we will dive deep into this topic, with the goal of covering as many questions, that can emerge in this debate, as possible.


First and foremost - we need to understand what exactly either of those terms mean. This may seem like water for 90% of users, but I would still insist you read through all of this, just to help you see the full picture later on.


The PSL Scale (or in this context, any other such established scale) is a measure of standalone FACIAL ATTRACTIVENESS.
It is calculated using a scoring system, which assesses four aspects: facial harmony; facial dimorphism; leanness/angularity and miscellaneous (skin/coloring/some features/etc.). The ideal ranges for all quantifiable measurements are derived from
peer-reviewed research papers & commonly agreed-upon, unbiased, vast sample clusters - in order to reach the highest extent of objectivity, whilst retaining lowest amounts of human error.


Classic examples of low vs. high PSL:
View attachment 3776205 vs. View attachment 3776207


Appeal (to a certain group of people in this context) is created through adapting to an archetype & style/niche, which relates to a corresponding group/subgroup/niche/etc.

Examples of men appealing to young + alt vs. mature + normie foids:
View attachment 3776216 vs. View attachment 3776217


Something looks off, doesn’t it?
When people debate this (usually in tiktok comments :feelswhy:), they basically put facial ratings against relatability to a certain group, which is inherently incorrect either way. So here is one more important definition for you:


SMV (sex market value) is a metric used to predict one’s frequency/quality of slaying (or to be precise, unconditional female attention in general). It consists of one’s height, frame, build, appeal breadth, status, and most importantly, you guessed it - PSL.


Classic example of low vs. high SMV:
View attachment 3776229


A more valid debate would be “PSL vs SMV”. Yet still, if PSL is a component of SMV, then it would make absolutely 0 sense to put them against each other, as one is but a part of the other.


So here is my main point: There is
no such thing as “muh high PSL low appeal (SMV)”. Since PSL makes up a massive chunk of SMV regardless, your score would be relatively high whether you had everything else, or not (only with the exception extremes, such as syndromic height, etc., of course). However, you CAN have relatively low PSL with relatively high SMV, if you possess other characteristics, which contribute to SMV.


Examples of lower PSL, but with other boosts vs. higher PSL on its own:
View attachment 3776376 vs. View attachment 3776453

On the left, we have Horsemeet, and on the right - Zayn Malik.
Horsemeet is around high MTN facially, but is around
6'1, has a good frame, physique & niche.
Malik, on the other hand, is 58, with an average frame, physique & has a niche that is mainly directed at pop rock fans. However, in his prime, he was at the very least high CL, and some people would still call that an underrate, which I wouldn’t blame them for.
One could argue, that their status is completely different, but to be honest, they are both big enough to have a similar fame score in their niche, as it can only get so high.


This brings me to another point: PSL is still law in terms of Looksmaxing. I’ve heard people cope with “muh models like De Poot do have high PSL, but I don’t see foids thirsting after them; I could see Marlon slay infinitely more than him, even though he has lower PSL!”.
This, buddy boyo, is a good example of what I’ve mentioned before.
De Poot is a model. Models do weird shit. He usually wears weird shit, is skinny as shit, etc.; Yet still, it will take him infinitely less effort to
surpass Marlon in SMV, than for Marlon to surpass De Poot in PSL. If they both had exactly the same height, frame, physique & everything else, except for face - De Poot would still SMV mog, obviously.


Fellas, it’s not 2023 anymore. Please get a grip. People like Bass or Zeta do indeed have high “appeal”.

Thank you for reading my thread boyos. Love
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Will read later bro mirin .
 
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Dnrd but what I have to say is that how much appeal a guy has is what comes into mind first for foids
 
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Dnrd but what I have to say is that how much appeal a guy has is what comes into mind first for foids
read it brah
youll agree:feelshah:
 
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PSL vs Appeal copes Eviscerated



For the past year or so, people have been constantly debating whether one can have high PSL, but low appeal and vice versa; if PSL & appeal are connected - or are completely separate from each other, and a lot of similar subjects. In this thread, we will dive deep into this topic, with the goal of covering as many questions, that can emerge in this debate, as possible.


First and foremost - we need to understand what exactly either of those terms mean. This may seem like water for 90% of users, but I would still insist you read through all of this, just to help you see the full picture later on.


The PSL Scale (or in this context, any other such established scale) is a measure of standalone FACIAL ATTRACTIVENESS.
It is calculated using a scoring system, which assesses four aspects: facial harmony; facial dimorphism; leanness/angularity and miscellaneous (skin/coloring/some features/etc.). The ideal ranges for all quantifiable measurements are derived from
peer-reviewed research papers & commonly agreed-upon, unbiased, vast sample clusters - in order to reach the highest extent of objectivity, whilst retaining lowest amounts of human error.


Classic examples of low vs. high PSL:
View attachment 3776205 vs. View attachment 3776207


Appeal (to a certain group of people in this context) is created through adapting to an archetype & style/niche, which relates to a corresponding group/subgroup/niche/etc.

Examples of men appealing to young + alt vs. mature + normie foids:
View attachment 3776216 vs. View attachment 3776217


Something looks off, doesn’t it?
When people debate this (usually in tiktok comments :feelswhy:), they basically put facial ratings against relatability to a certain group, which is inherently incorrect either way. So here is one more important definition for you:


SMV (sex market value) is a metric used to predict one’s frequency/quality of slaying (or to be precise, unconditional female attention in general). It consists of one’s height, frame, build, appeal breadth, status, and most importantly, you guessed it - PSL.


Classic example of low vs. high SMV:
View attachment 3776229


A more valid debate would be “PSL vs SMV”. Yet still, if PSL is a component of SMV, then it would make absolutely 0 sense to put them against each other, as one is but a part of the other.


So here is my main point: There is
no such thing as “muh high PSL low appeal (SMV)”. Since PSL makes up a massive chunk of SMV regardless, your score would be relatively high whether you had everything else, or not (only with the exception extremes, such as syndromic height, etc., of course). However, you CAN have relatively low PSL with relatively high SMV, if you possess other characteristics, which contribute to SMV.


Examples of lower PSL, but with other boosts vs. higher PSL on its own:
View attachment 3776376 vs. View attachment 3776453

On the left, we have Horsemeet, and on the right - Zayn Malik.
Horsemeet is around high MTN facially, but is around
6'1, has a good frame, physique & niche.
Malik, on the other hand, is 58, with an average frame, physique & has a niche that is mainly directed at pop rock fans. However, in his prime, he was at the very least high CL, and some people would still call that an underrate, which I wouldn’t blame them for.
One could argue, that their status is completely different, but to be honest, they are both big enough to have a similar fame score in their niche, as it can only get so high.


This brings me to another point: PSL is still law in terms of Looksmaxing. I’ve heard people cope with “muh models like De Poot do have high PSL, but I don’t see foids thirsting after them; I could see Marlon slay infinitely more than him, even though he has lower PSL!”.
This, buddy boyo, is a good example of what I’ve mentioned before.
De Poot is a model. Models do weird shit. He usually wears weird shit, is skinny as shit, etc.; Yet still, it will take him infinitely less effort to
surpass Marlon in SMV, than for Marlon to surpass De Poot in PSL. If they both had exactly the same height, frame, physique & everything else, except for face - De Poot would still SMV mog, obviously.


Fellas, it’s not 2023 anymore. Please get a grip. People like Bass or Zeta do indeed have high “appeal”.

Thank you for reading my thread boyos. Love
.

dnr, psl is universal beauty, while appeal is specificaly female gaze, psl rating is made by incels btw
 
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you made a whole post responding to a tiktok debate that only <50 iqlets even engage in. Its an argument that operates on the idea that psl and appeal are mutually exclusive, or even measurable separately when they both contribute to eachother.
 
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you made a whole post responding to a tiktok debate that only <50 iqlets even engage in. Its an argument that operates on the idea that psl and appeal are mutually exclusive, or even measurable separately when they both contribute to eachother.
contribute but they aren't equall, hernan drago is very high in psl, but any woman under 40 will choose zeta or archie
 
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you made a whole post responding to a tiktok debate that only <50 iqlets even engage in. Its an argument that operates on the idea that psl and appeal are mutually exclusive, or even measurable separately when they both contribute to eachother.
its wayyy more than 50 iqcels unfortunately
but yeah, this is exactly what this thread covers g, read it
 
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contribute but they aren't equall, hernan drago is very high in psl, but any woman under 40 will choose zeta or archie
archetypesssss
 
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Only major flaws are his esr and his small forehead
his bigonial seems kinda narrow, i may be tripping tho
 
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66.7% frontal harmony
t3 esr t3 third t1 canthal t2 fwhr t1 jfa t1 zygo setness t5 tfwhr t1 bigonial t1 ctp t1 neck width t5 mouth to nose t1 midface t2 brow setness t1 icd t1 eye aspect t1 lower to upper lip t1 iaa to jfa t1 brow tilt t4 bitemporal t1 lower third prop t1 iaa
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picture measured

not averaged out from other images, way lower harmony than i'd imagined though

feminizing frontally are tfwhr (1.21) and brow setness (visually mid-set, cant be bothered to measure)
exactly my thought
62% harmony
7.5 angularity
8 features
7 dimorphism
7/10 low cl
 
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i just realized im like high psl low appeal kinda

@xnj
 
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Psl heavily correlates with appeal, but it's not 1:1. Case in point, the last girl you gooned to wasn't the highest psl female, but very likely higher than average.
 
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Psl heavily correlates with appeal, but it's not 1:1. Case in point, the last girl you gooned to wasn't the highest psl female, but very likely higher than average.
i only goon to stacy:love:
 
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PSL vs Appeal copes Eviscerated



For the past year or so, people have been constantly debating whether one can have high PSL, but low appeal and vice versa; if PSL & appeal are connected - or are completely separate from each other, and a lot of similar subjects. In this thread, we will dive deep into this topic, with the goal of covering as many questions, that can emerge in this debate, as possible.


First and foremost - we need to understand what exactly either of those terms mean. This may seem like water for 90% of users, but I would still insist you read through all of this, just to help you see the full picture later on.


The PSL Scale (or in this context, any other such established scale) is a measure of standalone FACIAL ATTRACTIVENESS.
It is calculated using a scoring system, which assesses four aspects: facial harmony; facial dimorphism; leanness/angularity and miscellaneous (skin/coloring/some features/etc.). The ideal ranges for all quantifiable measurements are derived from
peer-reviewed research papers & commonly agreed-upon, unbiased, vast sample clusters - in order to reach the highest extent of objectivity, whilst retaining lowest amounts of human error.


Classic examples of low vs. high PSL:
View attachment 3776205 vs. View attachment 3776207


Appeal (to a certain group of people in this context) is created through adapting to an archetype & style/niche, which relates to a corresponding group/subgroup/niche/etc.

Examples of men appealing to young + alt vs. mature + normie foids:
View attachment 3776216 vs. View attachment 3776217


Something looks off, doesn’t it?
When people debate this (usually in tiktok comments :feelswhy:), they basically put facial ratings against relatability to a certain group, which is inherently incorrect either way. So here is one more important definition for you:


SMV (sex market value) is a metric used to predict one’s frequency/quality of slaying (or to be precise, unconditional female attention in general). It consists of one’s height, frame, build, appeal breadth, status, and most importantly, you guessed it - PSL.


Classic example of low vs. high SMV:
View attachment 3776229


A more valid debate would be “PSL vs SMV”. Yet still, if PSL is a component of SMV, then it would make absolutely 0 sense to put them against each other, as one is but a part of the other.


So here is my main point: There is
no such thing as “muh high PSL low appeal (SMV)”. Since PSL makes up a massive chunk of SMV regardless, your score would be relatively high whether you had everything else, or not (only with the exception extremes, such as syndromic height, etc., of course). However, you CAN have relatively low PSL with relatively high SMV, if you possess other characteristics, which contribute to SMV.


Examples of lower PSL, but with other boosts vs. higher PSL on its own:
View attachment 3776376 vs. View attachment 3776453

On the left, we have Horsemeet, and on the right - Zayn Malik.
Horsemeet is around high MTN facially, but is around
6'1, has a good frame, physique & niche.
Malik, on the other hand, is 58, with an average frame, physique & has a niche that is mainly directed at pop rock fans. However, in his prime, he was at the very least high CL, and some people would still call that an underrate, which I wouldn’t blame them for.
One could argue, that their status is completely different, but to be honest, they are both big enough to have a similar fame score in their niche, as it can only get so high.


This brings me to another point: PSL is still law in terms of Looksmaxing. I’ve heard people cope with “muh models like De Poot do have high PSL, but I don’t see foids thirsting after them; I could see Marlon slay infinitely more than him, even though he has lower PSL!”.
This, buddy boyo, is a good example of what I’ve mentioned before.
De Poot is a model. Models do weird shit. He usually wears weird shit, is skinny as shit, etc.; Yet still, it will take him infinitely less effort to
surpass Marlon in SMV, than for Marlon to surpass De Poot in PSL. If they both had exactly the same height, frame, physique & everything else, except for face - De Poot would still SMV mog, obviously.


Fellas, it’s not 2023 anymore. Please get a grip. People like Bass or Zeta do indeed have high “appeal”.

Thank you for reading my thread boyos. Love
.

Mogger Thread, BUMP.
(big news for the unemployed )

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muh appeal vs psl
 
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PSL vs Appeal copes Eviscerated



For the past year or so, people have been constantly debating whether one can have high PSL, but low appeal and vice versa; if PSL & appeal are connected - or are completely separate from each other, and a lot of similar subjects. In this thread, we will dive deep into this topic, with the goal of covering as many questions, that can emerge in this debate, as possible.


First and foremost - we need to understand what exactly either of those terms mean. This may seem like water for 90% of users, but I would still insist you read through all of this, just to help you see the full picture later on.


The PSL Scale (or in this context, any other such established scale) is a measure of standalone FACIAL ATTRACTIVENESS.
It is calculated using a scoring system, which assesses four aspects: facial harmony; facial dimorphism; leanness/angularity and miscellaneous (skin/coloring/some features/etc.). The ideal ranges for all quantifiable measurements are derived from
peer-reviewed research papers & commonly agreed-upon, unbiased, vast sample clusters - in order to reach the highest extent of objectivity, whilst retaining lowest amounts of human error.


Classic examples of low vs. high PSL:
View attachment 3776205 vs. View attachment 3776207


Appeal (to a certain group of people in this context) is created through adapting to an archetype & style/niche, which relates to a corresponding group/subgroup/niche/etc.

Examples of men appealing to young + alt vs. mature + normie foids:
View attachment 3776216 vs. View attachment 3776217


Something looks off, doesn’t it?
When people debate this (usually in tiktok comments :feelswhy:), they basically put facial ratings against relatability to a certain group, which is inherently incorrect either way. So here is one more important definition for you:


SMV (sex market value) is a metric used to predict one’s frequency/quality of slaying (or to be precise, unconditional female attention in general). It consists of one’s height, frame, build, appeal breadth, status, and most importantly, you guessed it - PSL.


Classic example of low vs. high SMV:
View attachment 3776229


A more valid debate would be “PSL vs SMV”. Yet still, if PSL is a component of SMV, then it would make absolutely 0 sense to put them against each other, as one is but a part of the other.


So here is my main point: There is
no such thing as “muh high PSL low appeal (SMV)”. Since PSL makes up a massive chunk of SMV regardless, your score would be relatively high whether you had everything else, or not (only with the exception extremes, such as syndromic height, etc., of course). However, you CAN have relatively low PSL with relatively high SMV, if you possess other characteristics, which contribute to SMV.


Examples of lower PSL, but with other boosts vs. higher PSL on its own:
View attachment 3776376 vs. View attachment 3776453

On the left, we have Horsemeet, and on the right - Zayn Malik.
Horsemeet is around high MTN facially, but is around
6'1, has a good frame, physique & niche.
Malik, on the other hand, is 58, with an average frame, physique & has a niche that is mainly directed at pop rock fans. However, in his prime, he was at the very least high CL, and some people would still call that an underrate, which I wouldn’t blame them for.
One could argue, that their status is completely different, but to be honest, they are both big enough to have a similar fame score in their niche, as it can only get so high.


This brings me to another point: PSL is still law in terms of Looksmaxing. I’ve heard people cope with “muh models like De Poot do have high PSL, but I don’t see foids thirsting after them; I could see Marlon slay infinitely more than him, even though he has lower PSL!”.
This, buddy boyo, is a good example of what I’ve mentioned before.
De Poot is a model. Models do weird shit. He usually wears weird shit, is skinny as shit, etc.; Yet still, it will take him infinitely less effort to
surpass Marlon in SMV, than for Marlon to surpass De Poot in PSL. If they both had exactly the same height, frame, physique & everything else, except for face - De Poot would still SMV mog, obviously.


Fellas, it’s not 2023 anymore. Please get a grip. People like Bass or Zeta do indeed have high “appeal”.

Thank you for reading my thread boyos. Love
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Amazing thread
 
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mfs really just be eviscerating anything these days

good thread tho mirin effort
 
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this one had to be eviscerated

tysm bhai
Ya dis appeal shi dont work no more with da hood, ya know wat I mean man ?
 
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