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“PSL vs Appeal” copes Eviscerated
For the past year or so, people have been constantly debating whether one can have high PSL, but low appeal and vice versa; if PSL & appeal are connected - or are completely separate from each other, and a lot of similar subjects. In this thread, we will dive deep into this topic, with the goal of covering as many questions, that can emerge in this debate, as possible.
First and foremost - we need to understand what exactly either of those terms mean. This may seem like water for 90% of users, but I would still insist you read through all of this, just to help you see the full picture later on.
The PSL Scale (or in this context, any other such established scale) is a measure of standalone FACIAL ATTRACTIVENESS.
It is calculated using a scoring system, which assesses four aspects: facial harmony; facial dimorphism; leanness/angularity and miscellaneous (skin/coloring/some features/etc.). The ideal ranges for all quantifiable measurements are derived from peer-reviewed research papers & commonly agreed-upon, unbiased, vast sample clusters - in order to reach the highest extent of objectivity, whilst retaining lowest amounts of human error.
Classic examples of low vs. high PSL:
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Appeal (to a certain group of people in this context) is created through adapting to an archetype & style/niche, which relates to a corresponding group/subgroup/niche/etc.
Examples of men appealing to young + alt vs. mature + normie foids:
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Something looks off, doesn’t it?
When people debate this (usually in tiktok comments
), they basically put facial ratings against relatability to a certain group, which is inherently incorrect either way. So here is one more important definition for you:SMV (sex market value) is a metric used to predict one’s frequency/quality of slaying (or to be precise, unconditional female attention in general). It consists of one’s height, frame, build, appeal breadth, status, and most importantly, you guessed it - PSL.
Classic example of low vs. high SMV:
A more valid debate would be “PSL vs SMV”. Yet still, if PSL is a component of SMV, then it would make absolutely 0 sense to put them against each other, as one is but a part of the other.
So here is my main point: There is no such thing as “muh high PSL low appeal (SMV)”. Since PSL makes up a massive chunk of SMV regardless, your score would be relatively high whether you had everything else, or not (only with the exception extremes, such as syndromic height, etc., of course). However, you CAN have relatively low PSL with relatively high SMV, if you possess other characteristics, which contribute to SMV.
Examples of lower PSL, but with other boosts vs. higher PSL on its own:
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On the left, we have Horsemeet, and on the right - Zayn Malik.
Horsemeet is around high MTN facially, but is around 6'1, has a good frame, physique & niche.
Malik, on the other hand, is 5’8, with an average frame, physique & has a niche that is mainly directed at pop rock fans. However, in his prime, he was at the very least high CL, and some people would still call that an underrate, which I wouldn’t blame them for.
One could argue, that their status is completely different, but to be honest, they are both big enough to have a similar fame score in their niche, as it can only get so high.
This brings me to another point: PSL is still law in terms of Looksmaxing. I’ve heard people cope with “muh models like De Poot do have high PSL, but I don’t see foids thirsting after them; I could see Marlon slay infinitely more than him, even though he has lower PSL!”.
On the left, we have Horsemeet, and on the right - Zayn Malik.
Horsemeet is around high MTN facially, but is around 6'1, has a good frame, physique & niche.
Malik, on the other hand, is 5’8, with an average frame, physique & has a niche that is mainly directed at pop rock fans. However, in his prime, he was at the very least high CL, and some people would still call that an underrate, which I wouldn’t blame them for.
One could argue, that their status is completely different, but to be honest, they are both big enough to have a similar fame score in their niche, as it can only get so high.
This, buddy boyo, is a good example of what I’ve mentioned before.
De Poot is a model. Models do weird shit. He usually wears weird shit, is skinny as shit, etc.; Yet still, it will take him infinitely less effort to surpass Marlon in SMV, than for Marlon to surpass De Poot in PSL. If they both had exactly the same height, frame, physique & everything else, except for face - De Poot would still SMV mog, obviously.
Fellas, it’s not 2023 anymore. Please get a grip. People like Bass or Zeta do indeed have high “appeal”.
Thank you for reading my thread boyos. Love.
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