[Pt. 2] ASIA -> EU ZERO SEIZURE SHIPPING GUIDE

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Zero Seizure Shipping Guide
This is part 2 of this thread. I suggest you read it, but it isn't neccessary.
If you don't want to, just read the short summary below.

In my last thread, i discussed the method of importing items to EU countries with a low chance of seizure.
This is commonly called "triangle shipping".
In my last thread i finished the initial setup where i set up an account and placed an order for "BAC water" to my parcel-forwarding address.


Background
I'm situated in Denmark. Scandinavia is notorious for having strict customs. Therefore you can use my experience as a reference - however it's not prescriptive as every countries' customs are different. This post includes nuanced information that will be helpful to some.

Inb4 you niggas come running and screaming "water", "dnr". Notice, this is not a "never before seen" groundbreaking method. Despite being well known and "water" this thread still serves as a guide for high-inhib & low-agency people. Offering crucial, clear-cut guidelines for autistic people like myself.

Actual events
2 Days after i placed my order for BAC Water, it arrives at the shop.
Shipment received
Then i pay for shipping and these fuckers want 30 pounds. You fuckers better rep me...
Only 2 tracking options
Order confirmation
ParcelFlow order details Shipping to home Country
Got nervous here but the package goes through customs without any hiccups
Cleared customs no problems
Then my package arrives at the post office, but since it wasn't registered in the system it couldn't be delivered.
Delivery attempt to dummy address
However the package gets rerouted to the nearest available post office because of this.:feelshah:
Delivery success
and yes, - i will be blacking EVERYTHING out.

Let's take a look at the package.
1. Back, 2. Contents of white package, 3. Contents of black package, 4. Order.
Package back Contents of white package Contents of black package Order
Dudes labelled my package as "health products" :PepeC:

-> No signs of tampering or inspection.
Success:feelshah:.​

Results
The point of transit i was most worried about was the international post office.
Here a few of my previous packages had been seized before. See the pictures below.
Tretinoin from Ukraine 1 Tretinoin from Ukraine 2
But as we can see, with our package, it was let straight through:feelsgood:.
Cleared customs no problems
I then received my package untampered with and whole.
We can conclude it's a success.
Order

Interviews
Here is where the more nuanced information is.
To avoid breaking any rules, the interviewee's will stay anonymous despite consent.
Interview 1   2
Interview 1   1
Interview 2   1
Interview 2   2

I've learned that the vendor is largely responsible for the success of an import. This is because only the sender can perform most preventative measures used to disguise the product. They decide the declaration, shipment method and packaging.

Declaration
It appears the declaration is not very important, as long as it's a common item that loosely fits the actual item, without being indicative of it being illegal. e.g. "Skincare products", "Bath salts", "Creatine", "Herbal Supplements" etc. You could declare the package as a commonly shipped item, so it passes through without further inspection.

Packaging
The declaration is irrelevant when your vendor knows what they're doing. Let me explain.
In the interview we touch on the topic of disguised products. This is when the vendor will pack your item inside a decoy packaging.
I've personally experienced receiving pills packaged inside a decoy. My shit arrived in an "active charcoal pills pack", thought i got scammed. The actual box was actually perfectly fitted inside.
it looked kind of like this:
Decoy packaging example
Needless to say, there were not charcoal pills inside:cool:.

- If your vendor does this, declaring the item is straightforward.
This intervention is the best.
I've had packages seized and inspected like this before and they've still been let through.
Triangle shipping can be skipped all together if you do this. (but not recommended as they will inspect the package)

Shipment method
Use triangle shipping to England as outlined in my previous thread for maximum seizure prevention.
If your vendor doesn't offer this, just do it yourself.​

Key Takeaways
For a product being imported from outside the EU (indiamart, chemicalbook etc.)​

  1. Ask if your seller uses decoy packaging.
    1. If not, find a new seller, or make sure they don't declare it as anything retarded.
    2. If there's no options available for a decoy packaging, absolutely do triangle shipping.
  2. Arrange for triangle shipping.
  3. Import multiple smaller packages rather than one big package.
  4. Skip all this and order domestically if you can.
Other semi important stuff:
  1. Buy with washed bitcoin (railgun shielded -> tornado cash -> off the grid wallet.)
  2. Never enter a personal address or name. Always use an alias and ship to a post office.
Some wallets log your IP. Telephone masts log connected devices general locations. never connect to personal/home wifi.
This is why you need an off the grid phone with everything cash bought.
Use solwallet for grey purchases.

more in depth guides:

500th post btw

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Zero Seizure Shipping Guide
This is part 2 of this thread. I suggest you read it, but it isn't neccessary.
If you don't want to, just read the short summary below.

In my last thread, i discussed the method of importing items to EU countries with a low chance of seizure.
This is commonly called "triangle shipping".
In my last thread i finished the initial setup where i set up an account and placed an order for "BAC water" to my parcel-forwarding address.




Background
I'm situated in Denmark. Scandinavia is notorious for having strict customs. Therefore you can use my experience as a reference - however it's not prescriptive as every countries' customs are different. This post includes nuanced information that will be helpful to some.

Inb4 you niggas come running and screaming "water", "dnr". Notice, this is not a "never before seen" groundbreaking method. Despite being well known and "water" this thread still serves as a guide for high-inhib & low-agency people. Offering crucial, clear-cut guidelines for autistic people like myself.

Actual events
2 Days after i placed my order for BAC Water, it arrives at the shop.
View attachment 5274406
Then i pay for shipping and these fuckers want 30 pounds. You fuckers better rep me...
View attachment 5274412
Order confirmation
View attachment 5274418
Got nervous here but the package goes through customs without any hiccups
View attachment 5274426
Then my package arrives at the post office, but since it wasn't registered in the system it couldn't be delivered.
View attachment 5274432
However the package gets rerouted to the nearest available post office because of this.:feelshah:
View attachment 5274433
and yes, - i will be blacking EVERYTHING out.

Let's take a look at the package.
1. Back, 2. Contents of white package, 3. Contents of black package, 4. Order.
View attachment 5274437View attachment 5274438View attachment 5274439View attachment 5274441
Dudes labelled my package as "health products" :PepeC:

-> No signs of tampering or inspection.
Success:feelshah:.​



Results
The point of transit i was most worried about was the international post office.
Here a few of my previous packages had been seized before. See the pictures below.
View attachment 5274454View attachment 5274455
But as we can see, with our package, it was let straight through:feelsgood:.
View attachment 5274426
I then received my package untampered with and whole.
We can conclude it's a success.
View attachment 5274441



Interviews
Here is where the more nuanced information is.
To avoid breaking any rules, the interviewee's will stay anonymous despite consent.
View attachment 5274484
View attachment 5274485
View attachment 5274492
View attachment 5274494

I've learned that the vendor is largely responsible for the success of an import. This is because only the sender can perform most preventative measures used to disguise the product. They decide the declaration, shipment method and packaging.

Declaration
It appears the declaration is not very important, as long as it's a common item that loosely fits the actual item, without being indicative of it being illegal. e.g. "Skincare products", "Bath salts", "Creatine", "Herbal Supplements" etc. You could declare the package as a commonly shipped item, so it passes through without further inspection.

Packaging
The declaration is irrelevant when your vendor knows what they're doing. Let me explain.
In the interview we touch on the topic of disguised products. This is when the vendor will pack your item inside a decoy packaging.
I've personally experienced receiving pills packaged inside a decoy. My shit arrived in an "active charcoal pills pack", thought i got scammed. The actual box was actually perfectly fitted inside.
it looked kind of like this:
View attachment 5274542
Needless to say, there were not charcoal pills inside:cool:.

- If your vendor does this, declaring the item is straightforward.
This intervention is the best.
I've had packages seized and inspected like this before and they've still been let through.
Triangle shipping can be skipped all together if you do this. (but not recommended as they will inspect the package)

Shipment method
Use triangle shipping to England as outlined in my previous thread for maximum seizure prevention.
If your vendor doesn't offer this, just do it yourself.​



Key Takeaways
For a product being imported from outside the EU (indiamart, chemicalbook etc.)



  1. Ask if your seller uses decoy packaging.
    1. If not, find a new seller, or make sure they don't declare it as anything retarded.
    2. If there's no options available for a decoy packaging, absolutely do triangle shipping.
  2. Arrange for triangle shipping.
  3. Import multiple smaller packages rather than one big package.
  4. Skip all this and order domestically if you can.
Other semi important stuff:
  1. Buy with washed bitcoin (railgun shielded -> tornado cash -> off the grid wallet.)
  2. Never enter a personal address or name. Always use an alias and ship to a post office.
Some wallets log your IP. Telephone masts log connected devices general locations. never connect to personal/home wifi.
This is why you need an off the grid phone with everything cash bought.
Use solwallet for grey purchases.

more in depth guides:


500th post btw

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good shit man mirin
 
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i used peakpharmaceutic and never had those problems but always got my package stopped by customs while ordering on indiamart
 
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i used peakpharmaceutic and never had those problems but always got my package stopped by customs while ordering on indiamart
can't find him online
 
can't find him online
its his telegram @peakpharmaceutic i always buy from him beacuse he has indiamart stuff and isnt fucked like those indians
 
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its his telegram @peakpharmaceutic i always buy from him beacuse he has indiamart stuff and isnt fucked like those indians
telegram fags want ID now, gonna be problematic to order from there
 
ITS LITERALLY WRITTEN THERE NOT FOR HUMAN CONSUMPTION YOU FUCKING FAGGOTS I HOPE YALL DIE XDDDDD
 
Zero Seizure Shipping Guide
This is part 2 of this thread. I suggest you read it, but it isn't neccessary.
If you don't want to, just read the short summary below.

In my last thread, i discussed the method of importing items to EU countries with a low chance of seizure.
This is commonly called "triangle shipping".
In my last thread i finished the initial setup where i set up an account and placed an order for "BAC water" to my parcel-forwarding address.




Background
I'm situated in Denmark. Scandinavia is notorious for having strict customs. Therefore you can use my experience as a reference - however it's not prescriptive as every countries' customs are different. This post includes nuanced information that will be helpful to some.

Inb4 you niggas come running and screaming "water", "dnr". Notice, this is not a "never before seen" groundbreaking method. Despite being well known and "water" this thread still serves as a guide for high-inhib & low-agency people. Offering crucial, clear-cut guidelines for autistic people like myself.

Actual events
2 Days after i placed my order for BAC Water, it arrives at the shop.
View attachment 5274406
Then i pay for shipping and these fuckers want 30 pounds. You fuckers better rep me...
View attachment 5274412
Order confirmation
View attachment 5274418
Got nervous here but the package goes through customs without any hiccups
View attachment 5274426
Then my package arrives at the post office, but since it wasn't registered in the system it couldn't be delivered.
View attachment 5274432
However the package gets rerouted to the nearest available post office because of this.:feelshah:
View attachment 5274433
and yes, - i will be blacking EVERYTHING out.

Let's take a look at the package.
1. Back, 2. Contents of white package, 3. Contents of black package, 4. Order.
View attachment 5274437View attachment 5274438View attachment 5274439View attachment 5274441
Dudes labelled my package as "health products" :PepeC:

-> No signs of tampering or inspection.
Success:feelshah:.​



Results
The point of transit i was most worried about was the international post office.
Here a few of my previous packages had been seized before. See the pictures below.
View attachment 5274454View attachment 5274455
But as we can see, with our package, it was let straight through:feelsgood:.
View attachment 5274426
I then received my package untampered with and whole.
We can conclude it's a success.
View attachment 5274441



Interviews
Here is where the more nuanced information is.
To avoid breaking any rules, the interviewee's will stay anonymous despite consent.
View attachment 5274484
View attachment 5274485
View attachment 5274492
View attachment 5274494

I've learned that the vendor is largely responsible for the success of an import. This is because only the sender can perform most preventative measures used to disguise the product. They decide the declaration, shipment method and packaging.

Declaration
It appears the declaration is not very important, as long as it's a common item that loosely fits the actual item, without being indicative of it being illegal. e.g. "Skincare products", "Bath salts", "Creatine", "Herbal Supplements" etc. You could declare the package as a commonly shipped item, so it passes through without further inspection.

Packaging
The declaration is irrelevant when your vendor knows what they're doing. Let me explain.
In the interview we touch on the topic of disguised products. This is when the vendor will pack your item inside a decoy packaging.
I've personally experienced receiving pills packaged inside a decoy. My shit arrived in an "active charcoal pills pack", thought i got scammed. The actual box was actually perfectly fitted inside.
it looked kind of like this:
View attachment 5274542
Needless to say, there were not charcoal pills inside:cool:.

- If your vendor does this, declaring the item is straightforward.
This intervention is the best.
I've had packages seized and inspected like this before and they've still been let through.
Triangle shipping can be skipped all together if you do this. (but not recommended as they will inspect the package)

Shipment method
Use triangle shipping to England as outlined in my previous thread for maximum seizure prevention.
If your vendor doesn't offer this, just do it yourself.​



Key Takeaways
For a product being imported from outside the EU (indiamart, chemicalbook etc.)



  1. Ask if your seller uses decoy packaging.
    1. If not, find a new seller, or make sure they don't declare it as anything retarded.
    2. If there's no options available for a decoy packaging, absolutely do triangle shipping.
  2. Arrange for triangle shipping.
  3. Import multiple smaller packages rather than one big package.
  4. Skip all this and order domestically if you can.
Other semi important stuff:
  1. Buy with washed bitcoin (railgun shielded -> tornado cash -> off the grid wallet.)
  2. Never enter a personal address or name. Always use an alias and ship to a post office.
Some wallets log your IP. Telephone masts log connected devices general locations. never connect to personal/home wifi.
This is why you need an off the grid phone with everything cash bought.
Use solwallet for grey purchases.

more in depth guides:


500th post btw

tags
@Paul.jnxy @exoticgooder @lukeyyW @Snorter @bluebandz @Idontknow- @superpoppop @Icelander @EuropeanWarlord90 @mirinnnasal
Amazing thread bhai
 
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Zero Seizure Shipping Guide
This is part 2 of this thread. I suggest you read it, but it isn't neccessary.
If you don't want to, just read the short summary below.

In my last thread, i discussed the method of importing items to EU countries with a low chance of seizure.
This is commonly called "triangle shipping".
In my last thread i finished the initial setup where i set up an account and placed an order for "BAC water" to my parcel-forwarding address.




Background
I'm situated in Denmark. Scandinavia is notorious for having strict customs. Therefore you can use my experience as a reference - however it's not prescriptive as every countries' customs are different. This post includes nuanced information that will be helpful to some.

Inb4 you niggas come running and screaming "water", "dnr". Notice, this is not a "never before seen" groundbreaking method. Despite being well known and "water" this thread still serves as a guide for high-inhib & low-agency people. Offering crucial, clear-cut guidelines for autistic people like myself.

Actual events
2 Days after i placed my order for BAC Water, it arrives at the shop.
View attachment 5274406
Then i pay for shipping and these fuckers want 30 pounds. You fuckers better rep me...
View attachment 5274412
Order confirmation
View attachment 5274418
Got nervous here but the package goes through customs without any hiccups
View attachment 5274426
Then my package arrives at the post office, but since it wasn't registered in the system it couldn't be delivered.
View attachment 5274432
However the package gets rerouted to the nearest available post office because of this.:feelshah:
View attachment 5274433
and yes, - i will be blacking EVERYTHING out.

Let's take a look at the package.
1. Back, 2. Contents of white package, 3. Contents of black package, 4. Order.
View attachment 5274437View attachment 5274438View attachment 5274439View attachment 5274441
Dudes labelled my package as "health products" :PepeC:

-> No signs of tampering or inspection.
Success:feelshah:.​



Results
The point of transit i was most worried about was the international post office.
Here a few of my previous packages had been seized before. See the pictures below.
View attachment 5274454View attachment 5274455
But as we can see, with our package, it was let straight through:feelsgood:.
View attachment 5274426
I then received my package untampered with and whole.
We can conclude it's a success.
View attachment 5274441



Interviews
Here is where the more nuanced information is.
To avoid breaking any rules, the interviewee's will stay anonymous despite consent.
View attachment 5274484
View attachment 5274485
View attachment 5274492
View attachment 5274494

I've learned that the vendor is largely responsible for the success of an import. This is because only the sender can perform most preventative measures used to disguise the product. They decide the declaration, shipment method and packaging.

Declaration
It appears the declaration is not very important, as long as it's a common item that loosely fits the actual item, without being indicative of it being illegal. e.g. "Skincare products", "Bath salts", "Creatine", "Herbal Supplements" etc. You could declare the package as a commonly shipped item, so it passes through without further inspection.

Packaging
The declaration is irrelevant when your vendor knows what they're doing. Let me explain.
In the interview we touch on the topic of disguised products. This is when the vendor will pack your item inside a decoy packaging.
I've personally experienced receiving pills packaged inside a decoy. My shit arrived in an "active charcoal pills pack", thought i got scammed. The actual box was actually perfectly fitted inside.
it looked kind of like this:
View attachment 5274542
Needless to say, there were not charcoal pills inside:cool:.

- If your vendor does this, declaring the item is straightforward.
This intervention is the best.
I've had packages seized and inspected like this before and they've still been let through.
Triangle shipping can be skipped all together if you do this. (but not recommended as they will inspect the package)

Shipment method
Use triangle shipping to England as outlined in my previous thread for maximum seizure prevention.
If your vendor doesn't offer this, just do it yourself.​



Key Takeaways
For a product being imported from outside the EU (indiamart, chemicalbook etc.)



  1. Ask if your seller uses decoy packaging.
    1. If not, find a new seller, or make sure they don't declare it as anything retarded.
    2. If there's no options available for a decoy packaging, absolutely do triangle shipping.
  2. Arrange for triangle shipping.
  3. Import multiple smaller packages rather than one big package.
  4. Skip all this and order domestically if you can.
Other semi important stuff:
  1. Buy with washed bitcoin (railgun shielded -> tornado cash -> off the grid wallet.)
  2. Never enter a personal address or name. Always use an alias and ship to a post office.
Some wallets log your IP. Telephone masts log connected devices general locations. never connect to personal/home wifi.
This is why you need an off the grid phone with everything cash bought.
Use solwallet for grey purchases.

more in depth guides:


500th post btw

tags
@Paul.jnxy @exoticgooder @lukeyyW @Snorter @bluebandz @Idontknow- @superpoppop @Icelander @EuropeanWarlord90 @mirinnnasal
definitely repping ts. Great thread.
I would NOT pick up the package from the post office here in the states atleast apparently they do that to trick u
 
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definitely repping ts. Great thread.
I would NOT pick up the package from the post office here in the states atleast apparently they do that to trick u
Just say you’re picking it up for a friend.
Deny ownership basically.
If you’re not a retard the police will drop the case because they have no leads on the buyer
 
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Just say you’re picking it up for a friend.
Deny ownership basically.
If you’re not a retard the police will drop the case because they have no leads on the buyer
Ou shi ur smart
 
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Good:feelshah::feelshah:
 
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Read everything, amazing thread
 
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Good thread noriju
 
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btw is it safest to add the value of order at like 10 euros? I declared it as vitamins for 50 euros does that make it sus? Now they asking to declare it, I need to upload a receipt, so I just ordered vitamins from a store worth 50 euros and canceled it and uploaded the receipt. You think it's gonna get seized? Update tomorrow
 
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so I just ordered vitamins from a store worth 50 euros and canceled it and uploaded the receipt
smart.
use it in the future lol:ROFLMAO:
just declare 10 euro yeah, because after a certain price; items greater than ~125 euro, the items need to be "duty" taxed at 25% - which usually calls for an inspection.
can't imagine they'll do anything to your package tho.
go for it
 
smart.
use it in the future lol:ROFLMAO:
just declare 10 euro yeah, because after a certain price; items greater than ~125 euro, the items need to be "duty" taxed at 25% - which usually calls for an inspection.
can't imagine they'll do anything to your package tho.
go for it
Yeah I think they wouldn't even ask me to declare it if value was like 5-10 euros that was stupid of me maybe. And do you think when sending it out from parcelflow, telling them a more precise product with brand name than just "vitamins" would reduce risk next time?
 
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Yeah I think they wouldn't even ask me to declare it if value was like 5-10 euros that was stupid of me maybe. And do you think when sending it out from parcelflow, telling them a more precise product with brand name than just "vitamins" would reduce risk next time?
I should've put this in the thread. But don't announce any products that are to be arriving.
Just let them notify you when they arrive.
My package arrived with a different declaration than the one i had specified.
So it's best to let the pros decide it.

rep me - it's the least you can do...
 
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I should've put this in the thread. But don't announce any products that are to be arriving.
Just let them notify you when they arrive.
My package arrived with a different declaration than the one i had specified.
So it's best to let the pros decide it.

rep me - it's the least you can do...
When parcel flow receives it you put the description and then ship it to your address. The description is what shows up on the label what do you mean let the pros decide or put in blank? Unless the vendor does this for you then yeah respect to the vendor, but I'm ordering from indiamart :feelswah:
 
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When parcel flow receives it you put the description and then ship it to your address. The description is what shows up on the label what do you mean let the pros decide or put in blank? Unless the vendor does this for you then yeah respect to the vendor, but I'm ordering from indiamart :feelswah:
make something believable up.
if you don't know if the package is boxed (decoy etc.) then write something generic.
i'd probably try my luck with beauty products or health supplements depending on your poison
 
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has anybody actually succesfully ordered from peakpharma besides the guy that trys to promote it ?
 
When parcel flow receives it you put the description and then ship it to your address. The description is what shows up on the label what do you mean let the pros decide or put in blank? Unless the vendor does this for you then yeah respect to the vendor, but I'm ordering from indiamart :feelswah:
my stuff arived today but they only got these options.
1783100265233

Wont "Delivered by air" make customs fuck me?
im from portugal
 
my stuff arived today but they only got these options.
View attachment 5309549
Wont "Delivered by air" make customs fuck me?
im from portugal
Read my guide nigga.
I used royal mail (the cheapest one)
Also air freight probably will check your package for explosives and shit.
 
Read my guide nigga.
I used royal mail (the cheapest one)
Also air freight probably will check your package for explosives and shit.
I read it
From what i got you talk most about decoy packaging, idk if my vendor does that shit.
What do i do now, am i just fucked?
 
I read it
From what i got you talk most about decoy packaging, idk if my vendor does that shit.
What do i do now, am i just fucked?
No.
They’ve already received the package.
So buy the land based shipping and make sure you declare a reasonable value and item type.
 
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No.
They’ve already received the package.
So buy the land based shipping and make sure you declare a reasonable value and item type.
there isnt land based shipping available.
Im talking to their support and told him that, stil waiting on a response.
do you think they do it?
 
No.
They’ve already received the package.
So buy the land based shipping and make sure you declare a reasonable value and item type.
also my vendor declared it as "gift" (even tough i told him otherwise) is it bad?
 
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there isnt land based shipping available.
Im talking to their support and told him that, stil waiting on a response.
do you think they do it?
Oh i see.
Well then i guess it might not be that big a deal.
I got mine with the royal mail tracked by air.
The one for 33 pound.
Exact same shipping price
 
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Oh i see.
Well then i guess it might not be that big a deal.
I got mine with the royal mail tracked by air.
The one for 33 pound.
Exact same shipping price
oh ok
but do you think they wont check it?
because since yours is sneaky and could bypass customs inspection maybe.
mine doesnt have a decoy
where do you live btw (i live in portugal)
 
oh ok
but do you think they wont check it?
because since yours is sneaky and could bypass customs inspection maybe.
mine doesnt have a decoy
where do you live btw (i live in portugal)
My package was not sneaky. It was not a decoy.
Those are the things i recommend you to do.
I don’t think anything about your package in particular.
Stop outsourcing your thought.
You’re shipping stuff to portugal.
How hard can it be?
I don’t think portugal has strict customs.
 
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My package was not sneaky. It was not a decoy.
Those are the things i recommend you to do.
I don’t think anything about your package in particular.
Stop outsourcing your thought.
You’re shipping stuff to portugal.
How hard can it be?
I don’t think portugal has strict customs.
so just send it royal mail "delivery by air"?
 
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My package was not sneaky. It was not a decoy.
Those are the things i recommend you to do.
I don’t think anything about your package in particular.
Stop outsourcing your thought.
You’re shipping stuff to portugal.
How hard can it be?
I don’t think portugal has strict customs.
i got siezed once hopefully this one goes through
 
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godt arbejde
 
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bump
 
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Other semi important stuff:
  1. Buy with washed bitcoin (railgun shielded -> tornado cash -> off the grid wallet.)
  2. Never enter a personal address or name. Always use an alias and ship to a post office.
Some wallets log your IP. Telephone masts log connected devices general locations. never connect to personal/home wifi.
This is why you need an off the grid phone with everything cash bought.
Use solwallet for grey purchases.

Nigga you're buying BAC and not shipping 20kg of cocaine. If you're just buying personal-use sizes of medications nothing big will happen except a customs seizure. Also just skip all these retarded crypto mixers, these will probably get you into a bigger spotlight than just buying prescription drugs. These crypto mixers are a prime target for law enforcement, I would not "trust the math", glowies always find a way, 90% of users there either are in the drug business or committing heavy tax fraud. I would rather use PayPal and send 100$ to some random Indian address, or use Monero if you/seller have the means but that's probably overkill.

Also shit advice on IP OPSEC, just use TOR, even a normie VPN in incognito mode with deactivated WebRTC should be enough.
 
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Nigga you're buying BAC and not shipping 20kg of cocaine. If you're just buying personal-use sizes of medications nothing big will happen except a customs seizure. Also just skip all these retarded crypto mixers, these will probably get you into a bigger spotlight than just buying prescription drugs. These crypto mixers are a prime target for law enforcement, I would not "trust the math", glowies always find a way, 90% of users there either are in the drug business or committing heavy tax fraud. I would rather use PayPal and send 100$ to some random Indian address, or use Monero if you/seller have the means but that's probably overkill.

Also shit advice on IP OPSEC, just use TOR, even a normie VPN in incognito mode with deactivated WebRTC should be enough.
BAC water was just intended as a red flag for customs to pick out and seize as an example. This was outlined in my first post.

Tornado.cash is audited.

Railgun uses “technology” or so they say to wash your btc in pools of legally acquired btc.

Both protocols require no contact with another person. I.e. Never will i get into contact with a glowie.

I bought my phone physically secondhand with cash and installed graphene on it with mcdonalds wifi.
It’s now in a faraday box.

Maybe you’re right on the opsec guidelines. But these are the measures i will take to protect myself.
 
Zero Seizure Shipping Guide
This is part 2 of this thread. I suggest you read it, but it isn't neccessary.
If you don't want to, just read the short summary below.

In my last thread, i discussed the method of importing items to EU countries with a low chance of seizure.
This is commonly called "triangle shipping".
In my last thread i finished the initial setup where i set up an account and placed an order for "BAC water" to my parcel-forwarding address.




Background
I'm situated in Denmark. Scandinavia is notorious for having strict customs. Therefore you can use my experience as a reference - however it's not prescriptive as every countries' customs are different. This post includes nuanced information that will be helpful to some.

Inb4 you niggas come running and screaming "water", "dnr". Notice, this is not a "never before seen" groundbreaking method. Despite being well known and "water" this thread still serves as a guide for high-inhib & low-agency people. Offering crucial, clear-cut guidelines for autistic people like myself.

Actual events
2 Days after i placed my order for BAC Water, it arrives at the shop.
View attachment 5274406
Then i pay for shipping and these fuckers want 30 pounds. You fuckers better rep me...
View attachment 5274412
Order confirmation
View attachment 5274418
Got nervous here but the package goes through customs without any hiccups
View attachment 5274426
Then my package arrives at the post office, but since it wasn't registered in the system it couldn't be delivered.
View attachment 5274432
However the package gets rerouted to the nearest available post office because of this.:feelshah:
View attachment 5274433
and yes, - i will be blacking EVERYTHING out.

Let's take a look at the package.
1. Back, 2. Contents of white package, 3. Contents of black package, 4. Order.
View attachment 5274437View attachment 5274438View attachment 5274439View attachment 5274441
Dudes labelled my package as "health products" :PepeC:

-> No signs of tampering or inspection.
Success:feelshah:.​



Results
The point of transit i was most worried about was the international post office.
Here a few of my previous packages had been seized before. See the pictures below.
View attachment 5274454View attachment 5274455
But as we can see, with our package, it was let straight through:feelsgood:.
View attachment 5274426
I then received my package untampered with and whole.
We can conclude it's a success.
View attachment 5274441



Interviews
Here is where the more nuanced information is.
To avoid breaking any rules, the interviewee's will stay anonymous despite consent.
View attachment 5274484
View attachment 5274485
View attachment 5274492
View attachment 5274494

I've learned that the vendor is largely responsible for the success of an import. This is because only the sender can perform most preventative measures used to disguise the product. They decide the declaration, shipment method and packaging.

Declaration
It appears the declaration is not very important, as long as it's a common item that loosely fits the actual item, without being indicative of it being illegal. e.g. "Skincare products", "Bath salts", "Creatine", "Herbal Supplements" etc. You could declare the package as a commonly shipped item, so it passes through without further inspection.

Packaging
The declaration is irrelevant when your vendor knows what they're doing. Let me explain.
In the interview we touch on the topic of disguised products. This is when the vendor will pack your item inside a decoy packaging.
I've personally experienced receiving pills packaged inside a decoy. My shit arrived in an "active charcoal pills pack", thought i got scammed. The actual box was actually perfectly fitted inside.
it looked kind of like this:
View attachment 5274542
Needless to say, there were not charcoal pills inside:cool:.

- If your vendor does this, declaring the item is straightforward.
This intervention is the best.
I've had packages seized and inspected like this before and they've still been let through.
Triangle shipping can be skipped all together if you do this. (but not recommended as they will inspect the package)

Shipment method
Use triangle shipping to England as outlined in my previous thread for maximum seizure prevention.
If your vendor doesn't offer this, just do it yourself.​



Key Takeaways
For a product being imported from outside the EU (indiamart, chemicalbook etc.)



  1. Ask if your seller uses decoy packaging.
    1. If not, find a new seller, or make sure they don't declare it as anything retarded.
    2. If there's no options available for a decoy packaging, absolutely do triangle shipping.
  2. Arrange for triangle shipping.
  3. Import multiple smaller packages rather than one big package.
  4. Skip all this and order domestically if you can.
Other semi important stuff:
  1. Buy with washed bitcoin (railgun shielded -> tornado cash -> off the grid wallet.)
  2. Never enter a personal address or name. Always use an alias and ship to a post office.
Some wallets log your IP. Telephone masts log connected devices general locations. never connect to personal/home wifi.
This is why you need an off the grid phone with everything cash bought.
Use solwallet for grey purchases.

more in depth guides:


500th post btw

tags
@Paul.jnxy @exoticgooder @lukeyyW @Snorter @bluebandz @Idontknow- @superpoppop @Icelander @EuropeanWarlord90 @mirinnnasal
Are Switzerland customs strict or nah
 
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Are Switzerland customs strict or nah
Did some searching around reddit and govt. websites and it seems like switzerland has a keen eye on the import of illegal medical products.
They know what people are importing illegally and they know what to look for.
Take a look at that page.
Comparing the rather lax stance on customs my country has recently taken - yours is very strict.

Chances of not getting seized look bleak. I would instead look into tor/dark web suppliers or a local grey supplier.
There are guides here on how to know if you should trust a seller. Read them. Make sure your shits tested with janoshik if your dealer isn’t pushing pharma grade items. Unless you wanna keep injecting tap water🤷‍♂️
 
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Did some searching around reddit and govt. websites and it seems like switzerland has a keen eye on the import of illegal medical products.
They know what people are importing illegally and they know what to look for.
Take a look at that page.
Comparing the rather lax stance on customs my country has recently taken - yours is very strict.

Chances of not getting seized look bleak. I would instead look into tor/dark web suppliers or a local grey supplier.
There are guides here on how to know if you should trust a seller. Read them. Make sure your shits tested with janoshik if your dealer isn’t pushing pharma grade items. Unless you wanna keep injecting tap water🤷‍♂️
Bro I don’t live in Switzerland, but my Indiamart vendor sent my package to Switzerland first then to Canada. I live in Canada, he showed me tracking numbers where he did this successfully
 
Did some searching around reddit and govt. websites and it seems like switzerland has a keen eye on the import of illegal medical products.
They know what people are importing illegally and they know what to look for.
Take a look at that page.
Comparing the rather lax stance on customs my country has recently taken - yours is very strict.

Chances of not getting seized look bleak. I would instead look into tor/dark web suppliers or a local grey supplier.
There are guides here on how to know if you should trust a seller. Read them. Make sure your shits tested with janoshik if your dealer isn’t pushing pharma grade items. Unless you wanna keep injecting tap water🤷‍♂️
Just checked my tracking, it just passed Switzerland and is on its way to Montreal.
 
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skørt det her kun får 4 reps
 
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parcelflow has apparently started blocking all indian orders
 
Link or proof please ts is bad
keyword apparently idk I just saw a few people on here talking about it recently and wanted to share
i read it here first
 
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Zero Seizure Shipping Guide
This is part 2 of this thread. I suggest you read it, but it isn't neccessary.
If you don't want to, just read the short summary below.

In my last thread, i discussed the method of importing items to EU countries with a low chance of seizure.
This is commonly called "triangle shipping".
In my last thread i finished the initial setup where i set up an account and placed an order for "BAC water" to my parcel-forwarding address.




Background
I'm situated in Denmark. Scandinavia is notorious for having strict customs. Therefore you can use my experience as a reference - however it's not prescriptive as every countries' customs are different. This post includes nuanced information that will be helpful to some.

Inb4 you niggas come running and screaming "water", "dnr". Notice, this is not a "never before seen" groundbreaking method. Despite being well known and "water" this thread still serves as a guide for high-inhib & low-agency people. Offering crucial, clear-cut guidelines for autistic people like myself.

Actual events
2 Days after i placed my order for BAC Water, it arrives at the shop.
View attachment 5274406
Then i pay for shipping and these fuckers want 30 pounds. You fuckers better rep me...
View attachment 5274412
Order confirmation
View attachment 5274418
Got nervous here but the package goes through customs without any hiccups
View attachment 5274426
Then my package arrives at the post office, but since it wasn't registered in the system it couldn't be delivered.
View attachment 5274432
However the package gets rerouted to the nearest available post office because of this.:feelshah:
View attachment 5274433
and yes, - i will be blacking EVERYTHING out.

Let's take a look at the package.
1. Back, 2. Contents of white package, 3. Contents of black package, 4. Order.
View attachment 5274437View attachment 5274438View attachment 5274439View attachment 5274441
Dudes labelled my package as "health products" :PepeC:

-> No signs of tampering or inspection.
Success:feelshah:.​



Results
The point of transit i was most worried about was the international post office.
Here a few of my previous packages had been seized before. See the pictures below.
View attachment 5274454View attachment 5274455
But as we can see, with our package, it was let straight through:feelsgood:.
View attachment 5274426
I then received my package untampered with and whole.
We can conclude it's a success.
View attachment 5274441



Interviews
Here is where the more nuanced information is.
To avoid breaking any rules, the interviewee's will stay anonymous despite consent.
View attachment 5274484
View attachment 5274485
View attachment 5274492
View attachment 5274494

I've learned that the vendor is largely responsible for the success of an import. This is because only the sender can perform most preventative measures used to disguise the product. They decide the declaration, shipment method and packaging.

Declaration
It appears the declaration is not very important, as long as it's a common item that loosely fits the actual item, without being indicative of it being illegal. e.g. "Skincare products", "Bath salts", "Creatine", "Herbal Supplements" etc. You could declare the package as a commonly shipped item, so it passes through without further inspection.

Packaging
The declaration is irrelevant when your vendor knows what they're doing. Let me explain.
In the interview we touch on the topic of disguised products. This is when the vendor will pack your item inside a decoy packaging.
I've personally experienced receiving pills packaged inside a decoy. My shit arrived in an "active charcoal pills pack", thought i got scammed. The actual box was actually perfectly fitted inside.
it looked kind of like this:
View attachment 5274542
Needless to say, there were not charcoal pills inside:cool:.

- If your vendor does this, declaring the item is straightforward.
This intervention is the best.
I've had packages seized and inspected like this before and they've still been let through.
Triangle shipping can be skipped all together if you do this. (but not recommended as they will inspect the package)

Shipment method
Use triangle shipping to England as outlined in my previous thread for maximum seizure prevention.
If your vendor doesn't offer this, just do it yourself.​



Key Takeaways
For a product being imported from outside the EU (indiamart, chemicalbook etc.)



  1. Ask if your seller uses decoy packaging.
    1. If not, find a new seller, or make sure they don't declare it as anything retarded.
    2. If there's no options available for a decoy packaging, absolutely do triangle shipping.
  2. Arrange for triangle shipping.
  3. Import multiple smaller packages rather than one big package.
  4. Skip all this and order domestically if you can.
Other semi important stuff:
  1. Buy with washed bitcoin (railgun shielded -> tornado cash -> off the grid wallet.)
  2. Never enter a personal address or name. Always use an alias and ship to a post office.
Some wallets log your IP. Telephone masts log connected devices general locations. never connect to personal/home wifi.
This is why you need an off the grid phone with everything cash bought.
Use solwallet for grey purchases.

more in depth guides:


500th post btw

tags
@Paul.jnxy @exoticgooder @lukeyyW @Snorter @bluebandz @Idontknow- @superpoppop @Icelander @EuropeanWarlord90 @mirinnnasal
Its patched now right?
 
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Its patched now right?
parcelforce stopped receiving packages from india.
Or so i've heard - i wouldn't discount it right away. Not before trying it myself or seeing definitive proof.
 
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