pubertal dick growth after dht cycle

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say that i use dht to grow my dick but i still have some more cm of growth from puberty, would dht override or halt it?
if not, then would something like Enclo/hcg during or after the cycle mitigate this?
 
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whatever you call it bro chill im a grey:feelscry:
using dht gel during x period of time
yeah mean:unsure: yeah, supposedly you can get dih growth from it, but more minimal compared to persons who have deficience on dht
don't' expect very much big changes, 2in at max
 
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yeah mean:unsure: yeah, supposedly you can get dih growth from it, but more minimal compared to persons who have deficience on dht
don't' expect very much big changes, 2in at max
for the price of potentially your hairline tho. many people consider it not to be worth it, especially with the fact that nobody knows if it actually works due to very limited studies and info. I just dont want to fuck up any natural penis growth with it, but id think that adding dht is just like enhancing the process. Who knows
 
HGH+Pump+extend+PDE5 inhibitors
 
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say that i use dht to grow my dick but i still have some more cm of growth from puberty, would dht override or halt it?
if not, then would something like Enclo/hcg during or after the cycle mitigate this?
idk i have a micropenis
 
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inhib solely for eq? or what does it do
It has a lot of benefits, but it's mostly very good for PE bcs with pumping(at higher pressures) ur eq can go down a bit and it also helps with recovery
 
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Допустим, я использую ДГТ для увеличения размера полового члена, но у меня еще есть небольшой прирост в сантиметрах после полового созревания. Поможет ли ДГТ остановить или, наоборот, подавить этот рост?
Если нет, то поможет ли в этом случае применение таких средств, как Энкло/ХГЧ, во время
HGH+Pump+extend+ингибиторы PDE5
Honestly, I would recommend it Use local IGF-1 instead of HGH, which is converted to IGF-1 only in the liver. Also, PDE5 inhibitors are pointless. For the penis, I would recommend using shockwave therapy(UWT). Studies have shown that it Good result
 
Honestly, I would recommend it Use local IGF-1 instead of HGH, which is converted to IGF-1 only in the liver. Also, PDE5 inhibitors are pointless. For the penis, I would recommend using shockwave therapy(UWT). Studies have shown that it Good result
U mean igf1 des? Sounds good in theory, but doesn't work and the half life is too short! I was talking about HGH bcs op is probably young and it will help regardless! And u gotta be kidding me if u recommend op shockwave therapy instead of pde5 inhibitors jfl, ofc the pde5 inhibitors aren't mandatory, but they help a lot, that's why most guys in the pe comunity use them
 
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Ты имеешь в виду IGF1 DES? В теории звучит неплохо, но на практике не работает, и период полураспада слишком короткий! Я говорил о гормоне роста, потому что автор, вероятно, молод, и это поможет в любом случае! И ты шутишь, если рекомендуешь ударно-волновую терапию вместо ингибиторов PDE5? Конечно, ингибиторы PDE5 не обязательны, но они очень помогают, поэтому большинство парней в сообществе по лечению преждевременной эякуляции их используют.
We are talking about penis growth, inhibitors PDE5 only improves erectile dysfunction. I didn't recommend shockwave therapy instead of PDE5. I said it was a very effective method that, when used with IGF-1, will increase erectile function by 1-3 cm.It will also increase thickness. If a guy wants better results, he should buy an extender and combine it with local IGF-1 and shockwave therapy. If he uses HGH instead of IGF-1, it will give a lesser result.
 
say that i use dht to grow my dick but i still have some more cm of growth from puberty, would dht override or halt it?
if not, then would something like Enclo/hcg during or after the cycle mitigate this?
whats next? a bac water cycle?
 
We are talking about penis growth, inhibitors PDE5 only improves erectile dysfunction. I didn't recommend shockwave therapy instead of PDE5. I said it was a very effective method that, when used with IGF-1, will increase erectile function by 1-3 cm.It will also increase thickness. If a guy wants better results, he should buy an extender and combine it with local IGF-1 and shockwave therapy. If he uses HGH instead of IGF-1, it will give a lesser result.
pde5 inhibitors increase androgen receptor sensitivity

you literally get more dht like effects at your penile tissue alongside more bloodflow

more nutrients + more sensitive to dht = better gains
 
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Ингибиторы PDE5 повышают чувствительность андрогенных рецепторов.

Вы буквально ощущаете более выраженный эффект, подобный действию ДГТ, в тканях полового члена, а также усиливаете приток крови.

Больше питательных веществ + более высокая чувствительность к ДГТ = лучшие результаты
There are no studies, and what you wrote is untrue. PDE receptors increase blood flow due to nitric oxide, but they don't affect DHT.
 
There are no studies, and what you wrote is untrue. PDE receptors increase blood flow due to nitric oxide, but they don't affect DHT.
35457011
PMC7828628
PMC902480

"leading researchers to hypothesize a potential increased effect of androgen action on target tissues."

"tadalafil increased early AR nuclear translocation"

this next one directly proves it:

"tadalafil increased early AR nuclear translocation, AR transcriptional activity, and AR protein expression after 24 hours."



pde5 inhibitors increase nitric oxide by preventing the breakdown

that does not prove or disprove anything, im not sure why you would say that for no reason?

they upregulate ar sensitivity,

if you are unaware, dht attaches to the androgen receptor, as it is an androgen
 
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«Это привело исследователей к гипотезе о потенциальном усилении воздействия андрогенов на целевые ткани».

«Тадалафил усиливает раннюю ядерную транслокацию AR»

Следующий пример это наглядно доказывает:

«Тадалафил увеличил раннюю ядерную транслокацию AR, транскрипционную активность AR и экспрессию белка AR через 24 часа».



Ингибиторы PDE5 увеличивают выработку оксида азота, предотвращая его расщепление.

Это ничего не доказывает и не опровергает, я не понимаю, зачем вы так говорите без причины?

они повышают чувствительность к AR,

Если вы не знаете, ДГТ связывается с андрогенным рецептором, поскольку сам является андрогеном.
Please send the research with a link, I am not comfortable working in this format.:feelshmm:
 
Please send the research with a link, I am not comfortable working in this format.:feelshmm:
links are unsafe, i sent you the pubmed id's

are you unable to pull up studies using pubmed ids?
 
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35457011
PMC7828628
PMC902480

«Это привело исследователей к гипотезе о потенциальном усилении воздействия андрогенов на целевые ткани».

«Тадалафил усиливает раннюю ядерную транслокацию AR»

Следующий пример это наглядно доказывает:

«Тадалафил увеличил раннюю ядерную транслокацию AR, транскрипционную активность AR и экспрессию белка AR через 24 часа».



Ингибиторы PDE5 увеличивают выработку оксида азота, предотвращая его расщепление.

Это ничего не доказывает и не опровергает, я не понимаю, зачем вы так говорите без причины?

они повышают чувствительность к AR,

Если вы не знаете, ДГТ связывается с андрогенным рецептором, поскольку сам является андрогеном.
You're right, Tadalafil wouldn't be a bad idea in this guy's stack.
 
You're right, Tadalafil wouldn't be a bad idea in this guy's stack.
long acting pde5 inhibitors are good

2.5-5mg cialis everyday is what i do for gym pumps and general blood pressure

he could also look into 2.5% andractim dht cream, i applied a pea size ammount eod-e3d for like 8 weeks alongside other shit and i grew 0.75 inches in length and girth

protocol was:
apply pea size amount on dih, wear condom, tape condom down to base of penis, sleep, wake up, take condom off, shower, repeat every 2-3 days

dht stimulates penile growth so some topical dht always helps
 
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Ингибиторы PDE5 длительного действия — это хорошо.

Я принимаю 2,5-5 мг сиалиса каждый день для улучшения мышечного пампинга в спортзале и нормализации артериального давления.

Ему также можно рассмотреть крем Andractim DHT с концентрацией 2,5%. Я наносил его в количестве размером с горошину каждые 8 недель, чередуя с другими средствами, и у меня увеличилась длина и обхват на 0,75 дюйма.

Протокол был следующим:
Нанесите на половой член количество средства размером с горошину, наденьте презерватив, прикрепите его к основанию полового члена скотчем, лягте спать, проснитесь, снимите презерватив, примите душ, повторяйте каждые 2-3 дня.

ДГТ стимулирует рост полового члена, поэтому местное применение ДГТ всегда помогает.
I have a question: can topical DHT gel affect overall hormonal levels?
 
We are talking about penis growth, inhibitors PDE5 only improves erectile dysfunction. I didn't recommend shockwave therapy instead of PDE5. I said it was a very effective method that, when used with IGF-1, will increase erectile function by 1-3 cm.It will also increase thickness. If a guy wants better results, he should buy an extender and combine it with local IGF-1 and shockwave therapy. If he uses HGH instead of IGF-1, it will give a lesser result.
Bro, u are probably unfamiliar, but pde5 inhibitors aren't only used by people with erectile dysfunction, there are a lot of other benefits
 
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Bro, u are probably unfamiliar, but pde5 inhibitors aren't only used by people with erectile dysfunction, there are a lot of other benefits
To be honest, I only found out about them now, thanks for the new information.
 
U mean igf1 des? Sounds good in theory, but doesn't work and the half life is too short! I was talking about HGH bcs op is probably young and it will help regardless! And u gotta be kidding me if u recommend op shockwave therapy instead of pde5 inhibitors jfl, ofc the pde5 inhibitors aren't mandatory, but they help a lot, that's why most guys in the pe comunity use them
yes im 15 and tanner stage 4 roughly. i was also considering using a pump but i dont know if that could turn out bad somehow since im still developing.
 
yes im 15 and tanner stage 4 roughly. i was also considering using a pump but i dont know if that could turn out bad somehow since im still developing.
If I would be in puberty again, personally I would def still try pumping+extending, it's not researched, but it sounds plausible that in puberty u could gain more with these methods than in adulthood! Only u can decide if it's worth taking the risk
 
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If I would be in puberty again, personally I would def still try pumping+extending, it's not researched, but it sounds plausible that in puberty u could gain more with these methods than in adulthood! Only u can decide if it's worth taking the risk
definitely worth it id say. im glad im still young and have room for development.
 
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he could also look into 2.5% andractim dht cream, i applied a pea size ammount eod-e3d for like 8 weeks alongside other shit and i grew 0.75 inches in length and girth
you're telling that in 8 weeks I can develop a nearly 8 inch hog with a little bit of dht cream and 40 condoms? Please tell me that this is real
 
you're telling that in 8 weeks I can develop a nearly 8 inch hog with a little bit of dht cream and 40 condoms? Please tell me that this is real
maybe but it it very difficult to get for a good price. im still trying to find a good source for raw powder
 
you're telling that in 8 weeks I can develop a nearly 8 inch hog with a little bit of dht cream and 40 condoms? Please tell me that this is real
dht cream costs $300 usd for a tube of it

you will grow substantially if you apply it evenly and use hgh alongside it, also use cialis for extra bloodflow during sleep and better androgen receptor sensitivity

vigorous steve made a good video on this, he talks all about it

he said his dick got too big
 
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dht cream costs $300 usd for a tube of it

you will grow substantially if you apply it evenly and use hgh alongside it, also use cialis for extra bloodflow during sleep and better androgen receptor sensitivity

vigorous steve made a good video on this, he talks all about it

he said his dick got too big
300 for a tube isnt all that bad when you look at the big picture. How long do you think it could last? Maybe it could be mixed in with an extra solvent to dilute it a bit, have it last a bit longer.
 
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300 for a tube isnt all that bad when you look at the big picture. How long do you think it could last? Maybe it could be mixed in with an extra solvent to dilute it a bit, have it last a bit longer.
no dont dilute it

if you buy real 2.5% andractim cream, use it how it arrived

heres the protcol i would do, no gay shit

get a full boner, 90% max yk
squeeze out a pea size amount of the andractim cream out of the bottle
rub it evenly everywhere along your penis, you want a perfect even layer

next part sounds gay but

leave your dick in the air and let the cream get absorbed into your skin, give it 5min
if you want, now you could do another coat and repeat the waiting/drying process

now if you want to be really sure the cream doesnt "wipe" off even tho its absorbed, you can wear a condom and try to tape it down to the base of your dick, or use a very light rubber band

i would personally just wear a tight underwear

be careful if you live with other people, dont get the dht cream on them, they will virilize and become masculine if they are a woman or start growing weird hair if they are a kid

do your laundry yourself to make sure the dht cream doesnt rub off on anyone


i would apply the cream eod, or everynight if you really want to see the gains quick

but honestly eod works 80% as good from what i understand from vigorous steves stuff


take some cialis to promote boners overnight, extra bloodflow, extra nutrient delivery to the stimulated tissue
 
become masculine if they are a woman or start growing weird hair if they are a kid
One day after everything is going well with the dht cream, then suddenly i see my sister growing a beard jfl
take some cialis to promote boners overnight, extra bloodflow, extra nutrient delivery to the stimulated tissue
i heard cialis could make my boners dependent on it essentially, like a resistance/suppression. I dont know the truth to this, is it based on dose?
 
One day after everything is going well with the dht cream, then suddenly i see my sister growing a beard jfl

i heard cialis could make my boners dependent on it essentially, like a resistance/suppression. I dont know the truth to this, is it based on dose?
the cialis thing isnt true

cialis is a pde5 inhibitor

your muscle release nitric oxide when they contract

nitric oxide opens up your blood vessels, give you a pump if you go to the gym

theres this enzyme called pde5, it breaks down nitric oxide in your veins, which means less of the vasodialating stuff is going around

cialis stops pde5 from breaking down your nitric oxide, you kinda walk around all day with extra vascularity and better pumps


once you stop cialis you would just return back to your baseline amount of nitric oxide

think of it as a bathtub with flowing water

the cialis "plugs" the hole - or atleast makes the hole smaller, so more of the "water" (nitric oxide) can stay in the tub and increase pumps
 
doesnt something like L-citrulline bring a similiar effect?
nowhere near cialis

2.5mg cialis will out preform any pump preworkout

the issue is cialis is a prescription drug so they cant just give you 2.5mg cialis instead of 8g cit 2g arginine 1g agmatine ect ect
 
the issue is cialis is a prescription drug so they cant just give you 2.5mg cialis instead of 8g cit 2g arginine 1g agmatine ect ect
thats not a problem, its easy to get without a prescription online. Will Cialis make my dick impossible to become flaccid again until its worn off, or what?
 
thats not a problem, its easy to get without a prescription online. Will Cialis make my dick impossible to become flaccid again until its worn off, or what?
no it would just bring you back to how you were before

theres no dependency on cialis unless your 80 years old and genuinely need it, but thats becaues you cant get it up on your own

oh mb

cialis doesnt make your dick impossible to become flacid, it just makes blood flow everywhere better,

if your not thinking about girls youl be fine
 
cialis doesnt make your dick impossible to become flacid, it just makes blood flow everywhere better,
and what do you recommend i do to mitigate any side effects like the T suppression? I know there's HCG but I **think** i heard somewhere that it can also increase estrogen, will that be evident even while using an ai?
 
and what do you recommend i do to mitigate any side effects like the T suppression? I know there's HCG but I **think** i heard somewhere that it can also increase estrogen, will that be evident even while using an ai?
i know its ironic to say but i have read some peoples opinions on here and a lot say that by doing this i will fuck up my hormones. Which I know is true to an extent. What do you think is likely to happen in terms of side effects for me?
 
and what do you recommend i do to mitigate any side effects like the T suppression? I know there's HCG but I **think** i heard somewhere that it can also increase estrogen, will that be evident even while using an ai?
honestly im on test so i dont really think about that when considering topical androgens

500iu hcg eod + 0.5mg arimidex should keep your test above what it is naturally + keep estrogen in range

youl have more testosterone and dht in your system with the same estrogen

dht is anti estrogen tho, it has some estrogen blocking effects, vigorous steve talked about dht enanthate and how 50mg injected per week can keep your estrogen in range even when your on super high test

you might not need an ai tbh, the dht going systemic could out compete the locally produced estrogen in the balls

have arimidex on hand just incase tho, take 500 iu hcg eod + andractim cream protocol
 
i know its ironic to say but i have read some peoples opinions on here and a lot say that by doing this i will fuck up my hormones. Which I know is true to an extent. What do you think is likely to happen in terms of side effects for me?
if your pct properly and know what your doing youl be fine

just research it well before you get your hands dirty

watch some vigorous steve videos on yt
 
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you might not need an ai tbh, the dht going systemic could out compete the locally produced estrogen in the balls
using ai only for delayed plate closure, im going to be on hgh while doing this as well
 
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