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When would you say you could lean down to 10% bodyfat

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This genius thinks after 3 months, is this real ?

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I've already told you I'm done replying to you. But I guess a bitch like you has to create a whole separate topic about it.

I'm not repeating what I said again, I'll leave it below. Try reading it very slowly as I can see you have difficulties:

You're the retard at high bodyfat wondering why a girl can't see any difference after your surgeries

Go ahead, ask your surgeon. By 3 months all the critical bone knitting is pretty much complete. After that it's mostly just bone remodelling.

I didn't say get shredded and go on a crash diet you dumb fuck I said you can start losing some weight. Keep stuffing your fat face

I didn't say being lean will make your swelling go away. Obviously having a fat face will make it look worse, that's just common sense. Your reading comprehension is absolutely dismal

Btw it's extremely common for people to lose several kilograms in weight in their first few weeks post bimax because of the circumstances they're going through and it doesn't harm them. Yet you're saying losing a few kg after 3 months is a really bad idea that will fuck up your recovery.

I'll let you have the last reply as I have better ways to spend my time

The average person loses 5kg in their first month. And the average person recovers fine. Yet you think you can't start slowly losing weight at 3+ months when all the critical bone knitting is largely completed lmao. It's completely reasonable to start cutting down slowly at this point
 
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I've already told you I've done replying to you. But I guess a bitch like you has to create a whole separate topic about it.

I'm not repeating what I said again, I'll leave it below. Try reading it very slowly as I can see you have difficulties:





The average person loses 5kg in their first month. And the average person recovers fine. Yet you think you can't start losing weight at 3+ months when all the critical bone knitting is largely completed lmao. It's completely reasonable to start cutting down slowly at this point
@RealSurgerymax is it good to start losing weight at 3 months post op and go down to 10% bodyfat after jaw surgery ?

@jaymog @longjohnmong you guys had bimax what do you think
 
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@RealSurgerymax is it good to start losing weight at 3 months post op and go down to 10% bodyfat after jaw surgery ?

@jaymog @longjohnmong you guys had bimax what do you think
Where the person has high bodyfat to start with and is slowly losing weight over a period of months (not a crash diet)
 
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Doesn't matter, never began for you anyways.
 
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Chatgpt:

"Healthy man with over 20% bodyfat had this jaw surgery: 15 mm lower jaw and 5 mm upper jaw + 6 ccw Will it harm his recovery to start losing weight after 3+ months?"

Answer:

No, it will not harm his recovery to start losing weight after 3+ months, as long as he does it sensibly.

Here’s the breakdown:
  • Bone healing is largely complete by 3 months post-op in healthy adults. The most critical healing period (first 6–8 weeks) is already over.
  • CCW (counterclockwise rotation) and large jaw movements (like 15mm BSSO) do require significant healing, but by 12 weeks the bones are mostly fused.
  • If he's healthy and eating enough protein + micronutrients, a moderate calorie deficit won’t impair bone remodeling or soft tissue healing at this stage.
 
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Chatgpt:

"Healthy man with over 20% bodyfat had this jaw surgery: 15 mm lower jaw and 5 mm upper jaw + 6 ccw Will it harm his recovery to start losing weight after 3+ months?"

Answer:

No, it will not harm his recovery to start losing weight after 3+ months, as long as he does it sensibly.

Here’s the breakdown:
  • Bone healing is largely complete by 3 months post-op in healthy adults. The most critical healing period (first 6–8 weeks) is already over.
  • CCW (counterclockwise rotation) and large jaw movements (like 15mm BSSO) do require significant healing, but by 12 weeks the bones are mostly fused.
  • If he's healthy and eating enough protein + micronutrients, a moderate calorie deficit won’t impair bone remodeling or soft tissue healing at this stage.
Key Points

Research suggests it may not be safe to intentionally lose significant body fat (e.g., from 20% to 10%) three months after jaw surgery, as the body is still healing and needs adequate nutrition.It seems likely that a caloric deficit for weight loss could hinder recovery, potentially leading to complications like malnutrition or delayed healing.The evidence leans toward maintaining a balanced diet to support healing, with any weight loss efforts best discussed with your surgeon or dietitian.

Direct Answer

Understanding Your Recovery

Three months after jaw surgery, your body is still in the early stages of healing, with full recovery often taking up to 9-12 months. During this time, your focus should be on supporting your body with proper nutrition to ensure the jaw bones and tissues heal correctly.

Safety of Losing Body Fat

Intentionally reducing body fat from 20% to 10% involves a significant caloric deficit, which could deprive your body of the energy and nutrients needed for recovery. This might lead to issues like muscle loss, fatigue, or slowed healing, which are risks you want to avoid. While some involuntary weight loss is common early after surgery due to dietary restrictions, actively trying to lose weight at this stage is generally not recommended.

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Key Points

Research suggests it may not be safe to intentionally lose significant body fat (e.g., from 20% to 10%) three months after jaw surgery, as the body is still healing and needs adequate nutrition.It seems likely that a caloric deficit for weight loss could hinder recovery, potentially leading to complications like malnutrition or delayed healing.The evidence leans toward maintaining a balanced diet to support healing, with any weight loss efforts best discussed with your surgeon or dietitian.
Funny because when I ask grok 3 this question just now:

"Healthy man with over 20% bodyfat had this jaw surgery: 15 mm lower jaw and 5 mm upper jaw + 6 ccw Will it harm his recovery to start losing weight after 3+ months?"

I get this:

"Starting weight loss 3+ months after jaw surgery (e.g., 15 mm lower jaw advancement, 5 mm upper jaw advancement, and 6-degree counterclockwise rotation) is generally safe for a healthy man with over 20% body fat, provided certain conditions are met. Recovery from orthognathic surgery typically involves a 6–12 week period of significant healing, with the jaw bones stabilizing around 3 months post-surgery. By this time, most patients are cleared for normal activities, including exercise, assuming no complications like infection, non-union of bones, or delayed healing.

Weight loss through a balanced diet and moderate exercise should not harm recovery at this stage"

So you're obviously prompting it with some bullshit. I've got better things to do now
 
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Funny because when I ask grok 3 this question just now:

"Healthy man with over 20% bodyfat had this jaw surgery: 15 mm lower jaw and 5 mm upper jaw + 6 ccw Will it harm his recovery to start losing weight after 3+ months?"

I get this:

"Starting weight loss 3+ months after jaw surgery (e.g., 15 mm lower jaw advancement, 5 mm upper jaw advancement, and 6-degree counterclockwise rotation) is generally safe for a healthy man with over 20% body fat, provided certain conditions are met. Recovery from orthognathic surgery typically involves a 6–12 week period of significant healing, with the jaw bones stabilizing around 3 months post-surgery. By this time, most patients are cleared for normal activities, including exercise, assuming no complications like infection, non-union of bones, or delayed healing.

Weight loss through a balanced diet and moderate exercise should not harm recovery at this stage"

So you're obviously prompting it with some bullshit
You said specifically 10% bodyfat stupid shit, snd you need to do deep search
 
Funny because when I ask grok 3 this question just now:

"Healthy man with over 20% bodyfat had this jaw surgery: 15 mm lower jaw and 5 mm upper jaw + 6 ccw Will it harm his recovery to start losing weight after 3+ months?"

I get this:

"Starting weight loss 3+ months after jaw surgery (e.g., 15 mm lower jaw advancement, 5 mm upper jaw advancement, and 6-degree counterclockwise rotation) is generally safe for a healthy man with over 20% body fat, provided certain conditions are met. Recovery from orthognathic surgery typically involves a 6–12 week period of significant healing, with the jaw bones stabilizing around 3 months post-surgery. By this time, most patients are cleared for normal activities, including exercise, assuming no complications like infection, non-union of bones, or delayed healing.

Weight loss through a balanced diet and moderate exercise should not harm recovery at this stage"

So you're obviously prompting it with some bullshit. I've got better things to do now
Is it safe to slowly go from 20 to 10 procent body fat after jawsurgery 3 motnhs post op ?
That was my question to grok and that is ehat you talked about, specifically 10% body fat
 
Is it safe to slowly go from 20 to 10 procent body fat after jawsurgery 3 motnhs post op ?
That was my question to grok and that is ehat you talked about, specifically 10% body fat
Bro if you write like a retard you will get a retard answer.

I've added the 10% target onto my prompt:

"Healthy man with over 20% bodyfat had this jaw surgery: 15 mm lower jaw and 5 mm upper jaw + 6 ccw Will it harm his recovery to start losing weight after 3+ months? His target is to slowly reach 10% bodyfat and he will begin his diet at 3 months after the jaw surgery is completed"

And ChatGPT and Grok gave me the exact same answer as I posted above.

I also tried Gemini 2.5:

"Yes, for a healthy individual, starting a slow and controlled weight loss plan 3+ months after this type of major jaw surgery is generally considered safe and can even be beneficial."
 
Bro if you write like a retard you will get a retard answer.

I've added the 10% target onto my prompt:

"Healthy man with over 20% bodyfat had this jaw surgery: 15 mm lower jaw and 5 mm upper jaw + 6 ccw Will it harm his recovery to start losing weight after 3+ months? His target is to slowly reach 10% bodyfat and he will begin his diet at 3 months after the jaw surgery is completed"

And ChatGPT and Grok gave me the exact same answer as I posted above.

I also tried Gemini 2.5:

"Yes, for a healthy individual, starting a slow and controlled weight loss plan 3+ months after this type of major jaw surgery is generally considered safe and can even be beneficial."
Bro if you write like a retard you will get a retard answer.

I've added the 10% target onto my prompt:

"Healthy man with over 20% bodyfat had this jaw surgery: 15 mm lower jaw and 5 mm upper jaw + 6 ccw Will it harm his recovery to start losing weight after 3+ months? His target is to slowly reach 10% bodyfat and he will begin his diet at 3 months after the jaw surgery is completed"

And ChatGPT and Grok gave me the exact same answer as I posted above.

I also tried Gemini 2.5:

"Yes, for a healthy individual, starting a slow and controlled weight loss plan 3+ months after this type of major jaw surgery is generally considered safe and can even be beneficial."
Your question is too loose, doesnt say shit. Chat gpt will think the plan will be over one year or something. And its just eating more healthy which is something i already do, and i probably already is on the way to losing slight weight over a year. But thats not dieting and getting lean in the face and the thing you talk about. And the whole thing from the beginning is stupid because i am not fat in the face right now more then swelling. And i have no idea what bf i am. And also if anything its the swelling the first 1,5-2 months that should have been noticeable for the girl i was with
 
Your question is too loose, doesnt say shit. Chat gpt will think the plan will be over one year or something. And its just eating more healthy which is something i already do, and i probably already is on the way to losing slight weight over a year. But thats not dieting and getting lean in the face and the thing you talk about. And the whole thing from the beginning is stupid because i am not fat in the face right now more then swelling. And i have no idea what bf i am. And also if anything its the swelling the first 1,5-2 months that should have been noticeable for the girl i was with
Confirmed retard
 
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Its you that are retarded, you think you can be lean in the face just some months after jaw surgery. Thats the stupid thing here. Sure go and get lean face within a year after jaw surgery and send here
 
some physio working for jaw surgery patients who had surgery herself told me to get as much calories as you can after the surgery. Idk really about the timezone but i would def wait till 6 months then think about cutting
Yea this dude is just trolling or sum, getting lean after surgery with all the swelling that comes with it is ridiculous
 
Here is my experience:

I lost about 13lbs the first two weeks, then my weight stabilized and I gained about 3-5lbs back at week 3-4.

From there, I just maintained my weight for the next 2 months. I started cutting about a month ago now, down 8lbs.

I also just had a checkup with my surgeon the other day. My bone healing is phenomenal and cleared for all normal diet. He had a tough time even removing my hooks and screws from my bone and said it already engulfed the screws and bone grew over them.

I believe the most important factor for bone healing is simply not chewing for as long as you can.

Many people lose 20-30lbs in the first month of jaw surgery and heal okay. I wouldn’t want to go that far. For the first few months swelling will nerf your face aesthetically anyways, zero point in dieting. Focus on nutrients, calcium, protein, slight surplus even.

Month 3 onward seems to be fine to diet at a normal 500 cal deficit.
 
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Here is my experience:

I lost about 13lbs the first two weeks, then my weight stabilized and I gained about 3-5lbs back at week 3-4.

From there, I just maintained my weight for the next 2 months. I started cutting about a month ago now, down 8lbs.

I also just had a checkup with my surgeon the other day. My bone healing is phenomenal and cleared for all normal diet. He had a tough time even removing my hooks and screws from my bone and said it already engulfed the screws and bone grew over them.

I believe the most important factor for bone healing is simply not chewing for as long as you can.

Many people lose 20-30lbs in the first month of jaw surgery and heal okay. I wouldn’t want to go that far. For the first few months swelling will nerf your face aesthetically anyways, zero point in dieting. Focus on nutrients, calcium, protein, slight surplus even.

Month 3 onward seems to be fine to diet at a normal 500 cal deficit.
But the can you get lean so to speech, sure losing weight is good? Because like i havent gone up in weight much but i mean cutting know to get lean is not worth because of swelling

Because the first question king had was that the girl i was we ith before and after didnt comment on the diffrence because i wasnt lean enough at month 4
 
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I’d see no real issue with starting a diet to get lean at least 90 days post op if you want optimal healing.

Before 90 days, there is no real point or benefit, for many reasons:

- swelling NERFS your appearance for 3 months minimum in 99% of people, 6-8 in most people.
- why risk recovery and non union to be leaner yet have a fat ass swollen face from surgery still
- dieting too hard or becoming too lean can negatively impact hormone balance and low estrogen = bone deterioration — Arnett and Gunson have actually tied ICR to low estrogen in females, sometimes men too.
- you can’t even lift your hardest effort safely for at least 8-10 weeks, and you can’t clench your jaws for 3-6 months so you conciously must be aware of this when lifting unless you want to form a non union or misalign your healing.

After 3 months especially if you do not chew nearly aT all, your bones are going to be damn solid, so I don’t see a problem dieting in a moderate surplus to 10% or even lower at this stage.

Any earlier than 3 months just has zero reward for the risk, your face is still going to look like a bowling ball even at 10% or lower. So you just risk bad healing or delayed healing for zero facial gains.
 
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I’d see no real issue with starting a diet to get lean at least 90 days post op if you want optimal healing.

Before 90 days, there is no real point or benefit, for many reasons:

- swelling NERFS your appearance for 3 months minimum in 99% of people, 6-8 in most people.
- why risk recovery and non union to be leaner yet have a fat ass swollen face from surgery still
- dieting too hard or becoming too lean can negatively impact hormone balance and low estrogen = bone deterioration — Arnett and Gunson have actually tied ICR to low estrogen in females, sometimes men too.
- you can’t even lift your hardest effort safely for at least 8-10 weeks, and you can’t clench your jaws for 3-6 months so you conciously must be aware of this when lifting unless you want to form a non union or misalign your healing.

After 3 months especially if you do not chew nearly aT all, your bones are going to be damn solid, so I don’t see a problem dieting in a moderate surplus to 10% or even lower at this stage.

Any earlier than 3 months just has zero reward for the risk, your face is still going to look like a bowling ball even at 10% or lower. So you just risk bad healing or delayed healing for zero facial gains.
Yea i agree with your view
 

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