
Greycel Slayer
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Does Allah owe me anything? If not, then why do I owe him something?
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NoDoes Allah owe me anything
hes your creator and im sure you want to go to heavenIf not, then why do I owe him something?
JFL if you truly think I can talk to any sheikh in my area without being harshly judged. Plus, I will not get an answer that is satisfactory, that's for sure. I won't be able to discuss it properly without him thinking that "He has abandoned Islam". And I won't be able to voice my concernsWhy ask users with no knowledge, you should go ask your imam
See? This is why I didn't wanna ask a sheikh this question because he would say the same and I wouldn't get a reply.Have you become a murtadcuck bhai?
Try asking on r/extomatoes, they won't judge you. Sadly the most knowledgable user there was banned but there's a couple present that can provide a satisfactory answer.JFL if you truly think I can talk to any sheikh in my area without being harshly judged. Plus, I will not get an answer that is satisfactory, that's for sure. I won't be able to discuss it properly without him thinking that "He has abandoned Islam". And I won't be able to voice my concerns
Who was the most knowledgeable userTry asking on r/extomatoes, they won't judge you. Sadly the most knowledgable user there was banned but there's a couple present that can provide a satisfactory answer.
Oh okay. Just wondering. Well, the thing is… we need God, God does not need us. He isn’t in need of your prayers. But if you want to save yourself from eternal damnation, you have to turn to God and start praying and hope His mercy will grant you a good afterlife. God does not like arrogance because it was arrogance that made the devil rebel against God. There is also a Hadith that says the one who has an atom’s weight of arrogance in his heart won’t enter heaven. So you should stop thinking about what God can do for you. Instead, you should ask what can you do to make God content?No, I'm not a murtadcuck and won't ever be. It's a geniuine question
An actual student of knowledge who goes by the username u/cn3m_.Who was the most knowledgeable user
Oh okay. Just wondering. Well, the thing is… we need God, God does not need us. He isn’t in need of your prayers. But if you want to save yourself from eternal damnation, you have to turn to God and start praying and hope His mercy will grant you a good afterlife. God does not like arrogance because it was arrogance that made the devil rebel against God. There is also a Hadith that says the one who has an atom’s weight of arrogance in his heart won’t enter heaven. So you should stop thinking about what God can do for you. Instead, you should ask what can you do to make God content?
Fairness is a social construct.So God is just, but he is not fair. If he were fair, then everyone would be put on the same playing field. Everyone would have equally as many resources and everyone would be equally as attractive.
However, some of us are born poor, some rich. Some chads and some subhumans. Some tall and some short. This is where God is not fair, but he is just in the sense that if some poor guy wasn't able to please him due to lack of money, God won't judge him harsly.
Good series to listen to:So God is just, but he is not fair. If he were fair, then everyone would be put on the same playing field. Everyone would have equally as many resources and everyone would be equally as attractive.
However, some of us are born poor, some rich. Some chads and some subhumans. Some tall and some short. This is where God is not fair, but he is just in the sense that if some poor guy wasn't able to please him due to lack of money, God won't judge him harsly.
If you have infinite money, but you CHOOSE to make you son dress up worse than a homeless beggar every single day and send him off to school, knowing that he would be harrased. Knowing that your son will be bullied and won't be able to fight back. When the son voices his concern, you simply ignore him. Then does that son still need to show you respect?No
hes your creator and im sure you want to go to heaven
Good series to listen to:
For exampleI've listened to countless lectures already. I doubt I would gain new information as the content of these lectures is very basic
dont even bother bhai it will be a waste of timeDoes Allah owe me anything? If not, then why do I owe him something?
Memorized entire quran, read the entire sahih bukhari, have memorized over a 100 hadith, did uloom for almost 2 years. I see no benefit in listening to sheikhs on youtube as many of them are more misguided than myself.For example
To answer your question, Allah does not owe you nor does He owe anyone anything.Memorized entire quran, read the entire sahih bukhari, have memorized over a 100 hadith, did uloom for almost 2 years. I see no benefit in listening to sheikhs on youtube as many of them are more misguided than myself.
Does Allah owe you something? Yes, He does. He owes you to judge in fairness and justice. This isn't because you have power over Him or because he has to but simply because He promised it, and Allah does not break a covenant.Does Allah owe me anything?
You ask "Why do I owe Allah?" The answer is very simple. You need to remember that Allah created you, bestowed you with existence, and provided everything you use, see, spend, and consume. All your senses for learning and finding relief are also blessings from Him. If you consider the debt you owe your parents for their care and nurturing, imagine the gratitude owed to Allah Most High. It's not a debt for something you didn't receive; it's a debt of gratitude expressed through worship.If not, then why do I owe him something?
islamqa JFL, any islamqa links should be ignoredTo answer your question, Allah does not owe you nor does He owe anyone anything.
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Have you become a murtadcuck bhai?
They rarely know what they are talking about, just like all the other sheikhs and sites on the internet. I skimmed through the article none the less and there is nothing in there. I've read those verses in the quran hundreds of times.Elab
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Enlighten me on how referring to the Quran and Sunnah results in them "not knowing what they are talking about".They rarely know what they are talking about, just like all the other sheikhs and sites on the internet. I skimmed through the article none the less and there is nothing in there. I've read those verses in the quran hundreds of times.
....Enlighten me on how referring to the Quran and Sunnah results in them "not knowing what they are talking about".
They are not "salafi", nor have they ever ascribed themselves as such.....
They form their own explanations and many times not only ignore, but also criticize the opinions of many prominent fuqaha, ulama, and muhadithoon. Despite being a "salafi" site, they don't look beyond Ibn Uthaymeen for all of their answers JFL.
Yeah this "Salafi" obsession is quite weird to me, given that the scholars of Ahlus-Sunnah never emphasised on such. You may be referring to the Madkhalis aka pseudo-salafis."Salafis" are a tiktok joke. They've taken over tiktok and are attempting to reinvent the wheel by brainwashing the entire generation into abandoning the works of earlier scholars and coming up with their own interpretation of hadith and quranic texts.
This post by them is enough to prove their attempts at disuniting the muslims and spreading falsehoodThey are not "salafi", nor have they ever ascribed themselves as such.
Let's say you are right, can you provide examples for these claims? How does this essentially nullify the fatwas of Shaykh Muhammad Saalih al-Munajjid (may Allah preserve him)? They do look beyond Ibn Uthaymeen, I would know given I reference them a lot.
“People know there was alienation and animosity between the Ḥanbalīs and the Ashʿarīs. I was of those who strived to reconcile the Muslims’ hearts and unify them, in emulation of the command to hold fast to Allāh’s Rope. I removed most of the alienation that existed in the hearts. I clarified that al-Ashʿarī was one of the most noble of the speculative theologians (Mutakallimūn) to ascribe to Imām Aḥmad, may Allāh have mercy on him, and those like him who support his way, as al-Ashʿarī himself mentions in his books.
It is as Abū Ishāq al-Shīrāzī said, “The Ashʿarīs only gained credence among people because of their attribution to the Ḥanbalīs”, and the early Imāms of the Ḥanbalīs - such as Abū Bakr ʿAbd 'l-ʿAzīz, Abū 'l-Hasan al-Tamīmī and their likes - mention his statements in their books. In fact, his status among the early [Ḥanbalīs] was like that of Ibn ʿAqīl among the later ones, except that Ibn ʿAqīl has a distinct status in knowledge of law (Fiqh) and its fundamentals (Usūl).
As for al-Ashʿarī, he is closer to the fundamentals of Aḥmad than Ibn ʿAqīl and follows them more closely, for the closer a person is to the predecessors (Salaf), the greater his knowledge will be of the rational and textual [sciences].
I would clarify this to the Ḥanbalīs and explain to them that al-Ashʿarī, although he was a student of the Muʿtazilīs - he was the student of al-Jubbā'ī - he repented and inclined to the method of Ibn Kullāb. He then learned the fundamentals of prophetic tradition (Usūl 'l-Ḥadīth) in Basra from Zakariyyā al-Sājī. Then, when he came to Baghdad, he learned other things from the Ḥanbalīs of Baghdad. This was his final state as he and his companions mention in their books.
Likewise, Ibn ʿAqīl had been a student of the two Muʿtazilīs, Ibn 'l-Walīd and Ibn 'l-Tabbān. He then repented from that. His penance in the presence of al-Sharīf Abū Jaʿfar is well known.
As thus, just as there are those among the followers of Aḥmad who hate Ibn ʿAqīl and condemn him, those who condemn al-Ashʿarī are not limited to the followers of Aḥmad; rather, such people can be found in all groups.
And when I publicised the words of al-Ashʿarī and the Ḥanbalīs saw it, they said, “This is better than the words of Shaykh al-Muwaffaq [Ibn Qudāmah]!” The Muslims rejoiced at the unification of the ranks.
I publicized what Ibn ʿAsākir stated in his virtues (Manāqib) [of al-Ash'arī] that “the Ḥanbalīs and the Ashʿarīs were united until the time of al-Qushayrī”, for when the [well-known] controversy (Fitnah) took place in Baghdad [at the time of al-Qushayrī], it caused disunity, and it is known that every group has followers who are [both] upright and astray.”
over for religious copersDoes Allah owe me anything? If not, then why do I owe him something?
JFL Madhkhalis are clowns. There is no point in discussing them. They refuse to criticize "muh rulers" over major issues. They even refuse to criticize their policies regarding israel.Yeah this "Salafi" obsession is quite weird to me, given that the scholars of Ahlus-Sunnah never emphasised on such. You may be referring to the Madkhalis aka pseudo-salafis.
Frankly, you are giving them a label when they haven't ascribed themselves as such.They are a "salafi" site. A misguided one at that. The "salafi" movement is nothing but an attempt to divide the muslims despite Allah commanding us to hold firm to his rope.
You have been making quite a lot of claims without providing evidence for them, where have they "divided" the Muslims?divide between the muslims
What are your thoughts on the use of philosophy and theological rhetoric [علم الكلام]?This post by them is enough to prove their attempts at disuniting the muslims and spreading falsehood
They are a "salafi" site. A misguided one at that. The "salafi" movement is nothing but an attempt to divide the muslims despite Allah commanding us to hold firm to his rope.
And yes they quote ibn taymiyah a lot and use him to cause divide between the muslims. EVEN THO IBN TAYMIYAH SAID in [Majmūʿ 'l-Fatāwā 3/227-229
Nvm I didn't read the fatwa one secondThis post by them is enough to prove their attempts at disuniting the muslims and spreading falsehood
They are a "salafi" site. A misguided one at that. The "salafi" movement is nothing but an attempt to divide the muslims despite Allah commanding us to hold firm to his rope.
And yes they quote ibn taymiyah a lot and use him to cause divide between the muslims. EVEN THO IBN TAYMIYAH SAID in [Majmūʿ 'l-Fatāwā 3/227-229
Did you even read the article? How long have you been studying? That site is well known for their salafi bias, almost everyone knows it. I'm surprised you haven't caught onto it yet.They give preference to ibn uthaymeen over ibn hajar, ibn hazam, imam ghazali, and even take the teachings of Albani over the 4 imams LOLYou have been making quite a lot of claims without providing evidence for them, where have they "divided" the Muslims?
Nothing wrong with it.What are your thoughts on the use of philosophy and theological rhetoric [علم الكلام]?
This post by them is enough to prove their attempts at disuniting the muslims and spreading falsehood
They are a "salafi" site. A misguided one at that. The "salafi" movement is nothing but an attempt to divide the muslims despite Allah commanding us to hold firm to his rope.
And yes they quote ibn taymiyah a lot and use him to cause divide between the muslims. EVEN THO IBN TAYMIYAH SAID in [Majmūʿ 'l-Fatāwā 3/227-229
I'm going to go to sleep so if I reply it'll probably be later.JFL. Like I said, all the salafis have taken over tiktok and youtube. Let it be known that Ibn Hajar, Imam Nawawwi, and Imam Ghazali were Ashari. Effectively calling 90% of muslims misguided.
To muslims: "PHILOSOPHY IS HARAM, ASHARI ARE MISGUIDED, YOU ARE ALL KUFFAR"
To Rebecca: "Well you see rebecca....WE LOVE OUR CHRISTIAN BROTHERS. spits philosophy that muslims excelled in during the golden age of islam"
hypocrites
I'm going to go to sleep so if I reply it'll probably be later.
What are you even talking about here?JFL. Like I said, all the salafis have taken over tiktok and youtube. Let it be known that Ibn Hajar, Imam Nawawwi, and Imam Ghazali were Ashari. To call ashari and maturdi misguided is calling 90% of muslims misguided. MAIN CHARACTER COMPLEX LOL. "We are right, they are wrong."
To muslims: "PHILOSOPHY IS HARAM, ASHARI ARE MISGUIDED, YOU ARE ALL KUFFAR"
To Rebecca: "Well you see rebecca....WE LOVE OUR CHRISTIAN BROTHERS. spits philosophy that muslims excelled in during the golden age of islam"
You should elaborate. At this point, why should I take your word over الإبانة عن أصول الديانة which has been verified?I've had this convo hundreds of times and none of them yield any results. I do not plan on continuing. The claim "Abu hasan al ashari repented and became a salafi" is so baseless and idiotic that it leaves everyone speechless. It's like saying hitler repented and became a jew JFL
What are you even talking about here?
Are you amongst the Ashaa'irah?
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You should elaborate. At this point, why should I take your word over الإبانة عن أصول الديانة which has been verified?
Blud ?Does Allah owe me anything? If not, then why do I owe him something?
Bismillah,JFL at this jewish propoganda. Title of the video alone is enough to indicate this guy is a potential jew. How gullible can you be to watch these videos and trust them. You fall for jewish cllickbait titles that these pseudo scholars make to earn shekels jfl and trust the lies they spout. It's absolute ignorance to say imam abu hasan al ashari rh became a "salafi" in al ibana.
That book was written on the methadology of Abu Muhammad abdullah ibn saeed al qatani AND Ahmad ibn Hanbal. Both of them being from Ahlul Sunnah. So how can it be that al ibana was written on the methadology of al qahatani when imam ashari had rejected the ways of Ibn Kullab LOL.
Ibn Hajar al asqalani mentions that Imam Abu Hasan rh wrote his ibana with the methadology of imam abdallah ibn saeed rh. The "salafi" false claim that Imam Abu hasan rh had THREE stages is absolutely baseless; for he repented from Mutazaillah and adopted the ways of Ahlul Sunnah without there existing a seperate stage. On which he stayed until his death.
The mu'tazilah, when going against philosophers, may seem Muslim, but when going against ahl as-Sunnah seem like philosophers. When ash'aris go against Mu'tazilah, they seem like ahl as-Sunnah, but when they go against ahl as-Sunnah, they seem like Mu'tazilah."The Mu'tazilah are half philosophers and half Muslims, and the Ash'aris are half Mu'tazilah and half ahl as-Sunnah."
Ahlus-Sunnah wal-Jamaa'ah adhere to four principles that they avoid: distorting, denying, likening Allah to His creation, and discussing the howness of the Lofty Attributes.
We only describe Allah with the Lofty Attributes He has described Himself with in both the Qur'an and the authentic narrations of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him). Therefore, we cannot attribute to Allah any descriptions that He has not described Himself with in either of these two sources of revelation.
We have Maqaasid ash-Shari'ah, which outlines the overall objectives that the Shari'ah aims to achieve in order to protect and benefit people. Philosophy has its roots in disbelief and it goes against the preservation of the mind. This is why it's forbidden to learn philosophy in Islam. Instead of submitting to Allah and relying on revelation, philosophers, or those influenced by philosophy, start to have reliance on their own false reasoning over the revelation, similar to the misguided sect known as Mu'tazilah and their ilk.
If I may add more into this, no scholar of Ahlus-Sunnah, like ibn Taymiyyah himself, never allowed philosophy to be learned contrary to few scholars who mistakenly viewed that to be the case in specific circumstance. There is difference between exposing philosophy versus utilizing it like a knowledge as something taught as any other science in Islam.