radiesse high G filler instead of infraorbital implant?

[nishka]

hey team i have another stupid question
like @lurking truecel made a post that if your infraorbital bone sucks and you do fat grafting then its going to look puffy like coding jesus
this is my situation:

well my question is i think i do need an infra implant before i do fat graft what are the chances i can just get away with radiesse (high g filler) and then fat graft the hollow? i dont want implant because
1. cost
2. infection risk
3. might have to cut that tendon / ligament which supports mid face

please give me your wisdom @yussimania @lurking truecel @Jgns @LEFORT17

 

[nishka]

PSA skin is descended because had to stop accutane after trimax

 

[yussimania]

 

[lurking truecel]

Fat is better then filler in that region, but both might not be an option for you. You might need some lower eyelid work

 

[nishka]

its a valid question bro
just tryna prevent a botch

 

[nishka]

Fat is better then filler in that region, but both might not be an option for you. You might need some lower eyelid work

yeah gonna get LLRR
i was just talking about the hollow tho

 

[monk321]

Radiesse is the best but not dissolvable i hope you know that , but ye is something i would do i am getting it too but has to be diluted in that region

 

[yussimania]

its a valid question bro
just tryna prevent a botch

Well what are you expecting from Radiesse?

It won't come anywhere close to replicating an infraorbital implant - best you will get is a gunky swollen under eye area

It just doesn't make sense at all

i can just get away with radiesse (high g filler) and then fat graft the hollow?

Especially this

The reason why you fat graft after infraorbital implant is to cover up any reveal since the skin there is thin. You won't have any hollow there left

It's not some mandatory process for everyone of fat grafting hollows after infraorbital implants - the whole point of the implant is to correct the hollow region

And I wouldn't trust any injector since there are so many things that can go wrong especially in an area of your eyes - sure it could be possible but how many of your injectors are skilled enough to give you that look and not the basic tear trough fill

Better yet show me a single example of this procedure being done

And also me and @lurking truecel have told you multiple times that you don't need infraorbital implants even when you provided your CT scan

And if you read his thread you would understand that the reason why the orbital fat bulges is because of a weak orbital septum which requires bony support to hold it back

Ageing of the bony orbit is a major cause of age-related intraorbital fat herniation - PubMed

We evaluated the relationship between infraorbital fat herniation and age-related changes in the bony orbit and orbital fat density using computed tomography. Two hundred and sixty-five patients were enrolled (60 patients were evaluated for changes in the bony orbit and 205 for changes in...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Read this

 

[nishka]

Radiesse is the best but not dissolvable i hope you know that , but ye is something i would do i am getting it too but has to be diluted in that region

Yeah I know but HA might be too risky in the infras. Did a surgeon tell you if it needs to be diluted? Where are you getting it and cost?

 

[monk321]

Yeah I know but HA might be too risky in the infras. Did a surgeon tell you if it needs to be diluted? Where are you getting it and cost?

Absolutely diluted, it will leave visible granules if not and you'll look botched. Around 300 euros each syringe . Yea don't get ha fillers there it will cause bumps and hedema

 

[nishka]

it will leave granules even if you put it very deep right on the bone?

Absolutely diluted, it will leave visible granules if not and you'll look botched. Around 300 euros each syringe . Yea don't get ha fillers there it will cause bumps and hedema

 

[monk321]

it will leave granules even if you put it very deep right on the bone?

Yea the skin is thin too risky for most people

 

[nishka]

Well what are you expecting from Radiesse?

It won't come anywhere close to replicating an infraorbital implant - best you will get is a gunky swollen under eye area

It just doesn't make sense at all



Especially this

The reason why you fat graft after infraorbital implant is to cover up any reveal since the skin there is thin. You won't have any hollow there left

It's not some mandatory process for everyone of fat grafting hollows after infraorbital implants - the whole point of the implant is to correct the hollow region

And I wouldn't trust any injector since there are so many things that can go wrong especially in an area of your eyes - sure it could be possible but how many of your injectors are skilled enough to give you that look and not the basic tear trough fill

Better yet show me a single example of this procedure being done

And also me and @lurking truecel have told you multiple times that you don't need infraorbital implants even when you provided your CT scan

And if you read his thread you would understand that the reason why the orbital fat bulges is because of a weak orbital septum which requires bony support to hold it back

Ageing of the bony orbit is a major cause of age-related intraorbital fat herniation - PubMed

We evaluated the relationship between infraorbital fat herniation and age-related changes in the bony orbit and orbital fat density using computed tomography. Two hundred and sixty-five patients were enrolled (60 patients were evaluated for changes in the bony orbit and 205 for changes in...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Read this

Hmm there will be a hollow left after the implant
The implant will fix the orbital vector but I just have shit fat pad under eye so I will still have a hollow. Do you understand what I mean? Deep high G filler to fix the orbital vector and then where the skin is super thin in the tear trough we do fat grafting

 

[nishka]

Yea the skin is thin too risky for most people

Just to clarify I am talking about high G filler in the cheek not the thin skin tear trough

 

[nishka]

Just to clarify I am talking about high G filler in the cheek not the thin skin tear trough

Absolutely diluted, it will leave visible granules if not and you'll look botched. Around 300 euros each syringe . Yea don't get ha fillers there it will cause bumps and hedema

That’s a really good price you mind sharing the surgeon in dm?

 

[yussimania]

Hmm there will be a hollow left after the implant
The implant will fix the orbital vector but I just have shit fat pad under eye so I will still have a hollow. Do you understand what I mean? Deep high G filler to fix the orbital vector and then where the skin is super thin in the tear trough we do fat grafting

 

[nishka]

This guy got an infra orbital there is still a hollow

 

[monk321]

Just to clarify I am talking about high G filler in the cheek not the thin skin tear trough

Cheek is another story you can use it there but diluted for infraorbital bone

 

[yussimania]

View attachment 4947518

This guy got an infra orbital there is still a hollow

Man...that's the transition zone from the lower eyelid to the infraorbital foreman

Not hollow at all just saddled Infras to even it out but even then it's literally just nitpicking

It could also be lighting

Who the fuck fat grafts directly onto the lower eyelid lol

Cheek is another story you can use it there but diluted for infraorbital bone

Show me a single result of this that you are talking about please

 

[nishka]

Man...that's the transition zone from the lower eyelid to the infraorbital foreman

Not hollow at all just saddled Infras to even it out but even then it's literally just nitpicking

It could also be lighting

Who the fuck fat grafts directly onto the lower eyelid lol


Show me a single result of this that you are talking about please

Loll don’t get mad maybe I am stupid that’s why I posted tryna learn

 

[yussimania]

Loll don’t get mad maybe I am stupid that’s why I posted tryna learn

I'll always try to answer your dumb questions son

I may show some frustration in the process tho

 

[nishka]

I'll always try to answer your dumb questions son

I may show some frustration in the process tho

Filler in red and yellow fat graft won’t work?

 

[Jgns]

View attachment 4947518

This guy got an infra orbital there is still a hollow

i feel like thats skin pigmentation, and imagine the filler goes perfectly the first time, how about the second or third, plus the fact that what happens when u gt dissolve it

 

[nishka]

i feel like thats skin pigmentation, and imagine the filler goes perfectly the first time, how about the second or third, plus the fact that what happens when u gt dissolve it

atp i am just going to self inject jfl

 

[Jgns]

atp i am just going to self inject jfl

nigga are u tryna give urself a reason to rope or smt

 

[ascension to heaven]

atp i am just going to self inject jfl

based as fuck

 

[nishka]

nigga are u tryna give urself a reason to rope or smt

shouldnt be too hard as long as its right on the bone should avoid all the veins and stuff right?

 

[Jgns]

shouldnt be too hard as long as its right on the bone should avoid all the veins and stuff right?

idk implants just seem safer, longer, and probably will look better

 

[nishka]

idk implants just seem safer, longer, and probably will look better

show me some good implant results
implants are a meme i cant wait 1 year of my prime twenties to look good again

 

[Jgns]

show me some good implant results
implants are a meme i cant wait 1 year of my prime twenties to look good again

yeah thats what im worried about tbh but they're the only things I'm able to get to change that area. I got 8 months to waste but yeah ill be 21.5-22 by the time I can acc live. So depressing

 

[nishka]

yeah thats what im worried about tbh but they're the only things I'm able to get to change that area. I got 8 months to waste but yeah ill be 21.5-22 by the time I can acc live. So depressing

Bro that’s assuming you get the implant spot on the first time and account for bone resorption. I am just gonna do what BGM did with filler and be conservative

 

[Jgns]

Bro that’s assuming you get the implant spot on the first time and account for bone resorption. I am just gonna do what BGM did with filler and be conservative

yeah agreed, it probably won't be a big implant but its really scary how badly it could go wrong. Im going to go to my uncle whos a surgeon in istanbul so hopefully he could help me along with this, I'll be updating you and other guys here on how it'll be but holy shit bro I really gotta fix my cheekbones they're so horrible. I'd say you should focus on your eye region for now fs, ur malars honestly are above average its just your eyes look like theyre getting pulled down yk.

 

[nishka]

yeah agreed, it probably won't be a big implant but its really scary how badly it could go wrong. Im going to go to my uncle whos a surgeon in istanbul so hopefully he could help me along with this, I'll be updating you and other guys here on how it'll be but holy shit bro I really gotta fix my cheekbones they're so horrible. I'd say you should focus on your eye region for now fs, ur malars honestly are above average its just your eyes look like theyre getting pulled down yk.

Yeah my eyes and nose are the biggest thing I want to fix I feel like I have poor fat distribution because I dieted too hard during puberty lmao maybe the fat cells just died

 

[Jgns]

Yeah my eyes and nose are the biggest thing I want to fix I feel like I have poor fat distribution because I dieted too hard during puberty lmao maybe the fat cells just died

prolly not as you get older your facial fat cells kinda just diminish, you could get fat grafting then. but yeah your eyes are by far ur biggest issue bro.

 

[WhateverItTakes1]

wtf is this angle

 

[monk321]

based as fuck

retarded as fuck

 

[nishka]

View attachment 4957337 wtf is this angle

Just to see the infra

 

[kaydd]

yeah thats what im worried about tbh but they're the only things I'm able to get to change that area. I got 8 months to waste but yeah ill be 21.5-22 by the time I can acc live. So depressing

how old are you rn bro jesus

 

[Jgns]

how old are you rn bro jesus

wym lol im 20 rn

 

[kaydd]

wym lol im 20 rn

idk why i took you for mid 20s, good on you getting everything done so young

 

[Jgns]

idk why i took you for mid 20s, good on you getting everything done so young

lmaoo thats funny, preciate it tho bro, idk about so young tho

 

[nishka]

@yussimania
there is a whole thing about what i was talking about they combine high G filler for cheek and then low G for tear trough

 

[justjutting]

@yussimania
there is a whole thing about what i was talking about they combine high G filler for cheek and then low G for tear trough

Have u already consulted with bernardini?