Ramieri refused my case [photo]

Don't speak so confidently about things of which you know nothing
You're a fucking idiot. I went to talk to Ranieri twice, and my friends went to talk to him, and the scenario was always the same: someone gets there, starts talking to him about BP, and he starts giving you the Blue Pill sermon. I'm Italian and I live an hour's drive away from him. You're a fucking idiot, an imbecile, looking for attention.
 
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:feelsuhh: You’re calling him bluepilled cus he doesn’t want to operate on a mentally ill looksmaxxer?
That’s literally his duty as a doctor, to ensure the patient is not fucked in the head.

How is he bluepilled if he can do very large movements, for cosmetic reasons? Who do you suggest then, Sunil Richardson?
Maybe I expressed myself poorly. I'm not saying he's bluepilled, and you're right. As a doctor, his role is to ensure the patient's mental health. I'm just saying that it's very common for him to not want to operate on a blackpilled Lookmaxer. In fact, if he sees you're obsessed, he won't operate on you on principle. It's not like Taban who literally uses blackpill terms. if he sees that you are obsessed, he starts trying to blue pill you and brainwash you saying that you need to go to a psychologist ecc
 
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I didn't know that until last week. Now the only option here in Italy is pagnoni right?
Pagnoni is very very good especially for cantho but he He's similar too. If he sees you're too fixated and obsessed, he won't operate on you. Don't talk to him about Black Pills and other bullshit. Raffaini is also very good
 
You're a fucking idiot. I went to talk to Ranieri twice, and my friends went to talk to him, and the scenario was always the same: someone gets there, starts talking to him about BP, and he starts giving you the Blue Pill sermon. I'm Italian and I live an hour's drive away from him. You're a fucking idiot, an imbecile, looking for attention.
Being told you're wrong about something seems to trigger you immensely. There are ways and means to communicate yourself to a surgeon correctly where you're not raising red flags, whilst still sketching out your goals. This requires basic social skills and some social intelligence so it might be beyond you.

I consulted with him 3 years ago and I've also read some recent experiences from people on here. If anything he's becoming more black pilled and pushing new limits.
 
Being told you're wrong about something seems to trigger you immensely. There are ways and means to communicate yourself to a surgeon correctly where you're not raising red flags, whilst still sketching out your goals. This requires basic social skills and some social intelligence so it might be beyond you.

I consulted with him 3 years ago and I've also read some recent experiences from people on here. If anything he's becoming more black pilled and pushing new limits.
I went to talk to him twice + Italian friends who talked to him and had the same experience, I think I know what I'm talking about
 
You're a fucking idiot. I went to talk to Ranieri twice, and my friends went to talk to him, and the scenario was always the same: someone gets there, starts talking to him about BP, and he starts giving you the Blue Pill sermon. I'm Italian and I live an hour's drive away from him. You're a fucking idiot, an imbecile, looking for attention.
What do you mean BP? What terms and ideas are you bringing up to him?
 
What do you mean BP? What terms and ideas are you bringing up to him?
He showed him a pic of Hexum and said “make me look like him”. Then started rambling about how if he isn’t 8 PSL after surgery, he will rope. Of course Ramieri would think he’s unwell.
 
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He showed him a pic of Hexum and said “make me look like him”. Then started rambling about how if he isn’t 8 PSL after surgery, he will rope. Of course Ramieri would think he’s unwell.
lmaoo
 
Costs? Only lower jaw or both?
20k,
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Interesting. Nobody ever shares ramus widening pictures, would you consider sharing a before/after of just your jaw so it's anonymous?
i alr sent a punch of pms but yeah i can post here

bro but i live in italy Dr Orion Haas is in america
hes only visiting america, he lives in brazil (where i went dor surgery)

he can also do surgeries in mexico as he has locations there
 
Oh my god I Think Weed's messing with my head. My First appointment with surgeon is in a few weeks and Before reading this I really thought I was gonna go in and spew all the knowledge I have:forcedsmile:
next time u have a consultation only talk about functional issues and ask simple questions like ,,I've heard of rotating the jaws, is it possible for me:feelswat::unsure:''
will be doing this instead. I'm honestly starting to stress since I have a history of depression/anxiety in my medical records and in detailed notes she put that I was worried about being ugly and being insecure of my jaw. Could this seriously derail the whole thing if the surgeon catches wind of this, or can I still save it by acting aloof?
 

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