Ramieri update.

genioglossus
 
If ramieri and other 2 italians suck then where do i go for my reverse genio?
Holy high inhib Jesus just pick a surgeon. Genio setback isn’t even hard lol.
 
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Holy high inhib Jesus just pick a surgeon. Genio setback isn’t even hard lol.
have you even had surgery yourself? "just go get nerve damage bro why so high inhib :feelsuhh:" you need to be careful with this shit,
 
have you even had surgery yourself? "just go get nerve damage bro why so high inhib :feelsuhh:" you need to be careful with this shit,
Yes lol ive had 4 surgeries and I’m 18
 
Nothing to brag about. You need help.
Nah I look good now lol. Maybe I do need help, Cus at least I know unlike many people on this forum that even if u “ascend” or whatever if u were unhappy before, u will be unhappy after too
 
Nah I look good now lol. Maybe I do need help, Cus at least I know unlike many people on this forum that even if u “ascend” or whatever if u were unhappy before, u will be unhappy after too
Obviously, looking better isn’t some happy/ well-being pill if you’re autistic. Your diet and social life are more important from that perspective.
Weren’t you the one who considered doing jaw surgery with Ramieri?
 
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Obviously, looking better isn’t some happy/ well-being pill if you’re autistic. Your diet and social life are more important from that perspective
I mean I’m not autistic at all lol. I have a very good social life and I am very extroverted an NT, cus my job requires me to do that. I do public speaking a lot too so yeah I’m very confident.

But maybe not with my looks, even tho I am seen as conventionally attractive I’m still insecure lol
Weren’t you the one who considered doing jaw surgery with Ramieri?
Yeah but I’m probably not doing DJS anymore, I’m gonna do a less invasive and cheaper option, Cus realistically DJS is overkill. Probably a customised 3D genioplasty and neck liposuction.

Also considering a chin wing/ mini chin wing Osteotomy.

I wouldn’t even go to Ram for any of these cus I don’t think he’s good at genioplasties and he doesn’t perform chin wing often so I gotta find a different surgeon.

Also DJS braces and price is just too long and expensive. And I want the surgery done ASAP
 
I mean I’m not autistic at all lol. I have a very good social life and I am very extroverted an NT, cus my job requires me to do that. I do public speaking a lot too so yeah I’m very confident.

But maybe not with my looks, even tho I am seen as conventionally attractive I’m still insecure lol

Yeah but I’m probably not doing DJS anymore, I’m gonna do a less invasive and cheaper option, Cus realistically DJS is overkill. Probably a customised 3D genioplasty and neck liposuction.

Also considering a chin wing/ mini chin wing Osteotomy.

I wouldn’t even go to Ram for any of these cus I don’t think he’s good at genioplasties and he doesn’t perform chin wing often so I gotta find a different surgeon.

Also DJS braces and price is just too long and expensive. And I want the surgery done ASAP
i am in the exact same situation, where are you from? also which surgeons are you considering
 
i am in the exact same situation, where are you from? also which surgeons are you considering
I’m from the UK

I have been in contact with Dr Andreischev and tried to get in contact with some French surgeons and Dr Zarrinbal but a lot of them just don’t reply to their emails lol
 
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I’m from the UK

I have been in contact with Dr Andreischev and tried to get in contact with some French surgeons and Dr Zarrinbal but a lot of them just don’t reply to their emails lol
can i DM you
 
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I’m from the UK

I have been in contact with Dr Andreischev and tried to get in contact with some French surgeons and Dr Zarrinbal but a lot of them just don’t reply to their emails lol
you know Andreischev is a butcher and linked to money laundring right?
 
you know Andreischev is a butcher and linked to money laundring right?
Yeah don’t worry I’ve heard lots of things about him haha.

I wouldn’t get surgery with him but I do know he’s had some good cases with chin wing and wanted to get his opinion on stuff.

However so far he seems very agreeable, too much so where it seems like he will do anything if the patient asks lol
 
Yeah don’t worry I’ve heard lots of things about him haha.

I wouldn’t get surgery with him but I do know he’s had some good cases with chin wing and wanted to get his opinion on stuff.

However so far he seems very agreeable, too much so where it seems like he will do anything if the patient asks lol
Ye don't go to him , as you say he'll do anything on your face for money.
 
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I do now have an update regarding the tremendous botch Ramieri(aka Da Vinci according to some) did on me.

I got my surgical movements from him today, let me tell you this, he is an incompetent cunt.

He rotated my proximal segment assymetrical.

If you look at my before and after you will see how my left side after the surgery tilts more downwards, while my right are more upwards.

This was his completely brilliant idea of fixing the assymetry.

Know how do I know this is the vital factor to my breathing issues?

I started to experiment with my tongue and noticed once I pushed my tongue on the left side up more, my breathing got “normal”.

The genioglossus are attached to the mandible, rotating the proximal segment assymetrical=assymetrical tongue.

I belive this might be a reason as to why some experience breathing problems after even though they’ve made huge advancements.

A parallel tongue is upmost crucial to breathe normal.

This is ridiculous. The crazy part? I’m not the first that gets this complete incompetent movements where the surgeon has no knowledge what so ever of the tongue.

Several Raffaini patients seem to complain about this exact thing.

Ramieri, Pagnoni and Raffaini, what those this three bellends has in common? Several botches, no adequate knowledge of the fucking tongue.

Complete disaster.

For your knowledge, I’ve seen the recent results of Ramieri, no one in here can say that his results are optimal, your extremly bias if you do. He can’t do a proper genioplasty because I don’t think he freaking knows how to use bonegrafts which explain all the irregularities in his patient from his recent revolutionary method, “stairway genioplasty”.

I can’t comprehend how you can be a jaw surgeon and not have knowledge of the organ you directly want to affect to improve sleep apnea patients.

My reality is this now: Doing a revision as to where I tell my surgeon to do reorientation of my proximal segment to make the tongue pararell and also FUCKING advance it the same amount Ramieri chose to do set back.

You may wonder why I choose the us when I live in Europe: Ramieri decided to use biocortical screws as rigid fixation. No European surgeon wants to remove biocortical screws when the bone has healed, comes with too much of a risk.

After consulting 25 surgeons I finally found a surgeon that was willing and had experience from removing biocortical screws. He will also do my revision but at a high cost, 29 000$ for merely my underjaw. If I want to have a hospital night, the bill would be around 110 000$ so I’ve chosen not to.

Go straight to the hotel dizzy from the surgery and anaesthesia, living the dream.

I sincerely thank Ramieri and all the promoters of him, you’ve made this past 2 years a living hell but from now on it can only get better.

Irritating to be forced to use 55 000$ of your saving money in total to look the same.
hey Man, I pretend to make surgery, do you know a good surgeon? people keep glazing the dark triad ( pagnoni, ramieri and raffaini) what should I do? I dont know about shi help me pls
 
Is the US surgeon Derek? He's the only one autistic and confident enough to do things other surgeons won't touch
 

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