Rammus length is an excuse for poor forward growth

[grooxx]

On this screenshot, what you can see is top tier forward growth. The whole cranium is shifted horizontally. The distance between the eyes and ears, the fact that the nosebridge is so pronounced and everything below yet is even more forward make it top tier forward growth the forehead is so short and yet the face appears normal in term of ratios.
All the face being shifted horizontally has the effect of rammus length being useless. (on his face).

Therefore, rammus length, as always, is only a futile parameter. From the front, it only has to appear just a little bit below the lips, and that's all that matters. Whatever the length of your face, whether a male or a female, for the jaw angle,beside any talk about the chin, it is All that matter.

 

[HarrierDuBois]

He has a shit ramus, same as Barrett.
This is a masc ramus.

 

[grooxx]

He has a shit ramus, same as Barrett.

Stupid comment which reflect lack of intelligence. Explains why you are saying so much bullshit with 18 000 comments on the counter.

 

[Reformed]

He has a shit ramus, same as Barrett.

Barrett’s is way worse. At least his looks defined and straight

 

[HarrierDuBois]

Stupid comment which reflect lack of intelligence. Explains why you are saying so much bullshit with 18 000 comments on the counter.

Pictures I included show a masculine ramus.

 

[grooxx]

Pictures I included show a masculine ramus.

I'm not talking about masculinity but about esthétism. Length does not mean anything and is just a consequence of the downgrowth associated to masculinity

 

[HarrierDuBois]

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Do you really think the upper pic has a more aesthetic ramus than the lower one?

 

[HarrierDuBois]

I'm not talking about masculinity but about esthétism. Length does not mean anything and is just a consequence of the downgrowth associated to masculinity

Then Hernan is more downgrown became his gonial angle is worse.

 

[Deleted member 18582]

I don't think you need a long ramus to look good but I dont understand what youre trying to convey

A long ramus is associated with downward growth?

 

[grooxx]

I don't think you need a long ramus to look good but I dont understand what youre trying to convey

A long ramus is associated with downward growth?

Exactly.
Not that you cant have forward growth and down growth. It's just that the more you are forward grown, the shorter the rammus is going to be.

 

[HarrierDuBois]

Exactly.
Not that you cant have forward growth and down growth. It's just that the more you are forward grown, the shorter the rammus is going to be.

Hernan has a more downgrown gonial angle than Jorge. Your math is not mathing.

 

[grooxx]

Hernan has a more downgrown gonial angle than Jorge. Your math is not mathing.

Hernan whole profile would fit in a horizontal rectangle. Jorge would fit in a vertical rectangle. Their whole growth is different. Not that one is ugly, it is different.
Look at the slopes of the forehead, and the proportional horizontal length. If you don't see any difference, I can't help you

 

[Deleted member 18582]

Exactly.
Not that you cant have forward growth and down growth. It's just that the more you are forward grown, the shorter the rammus is going to be.

which look do you prefer? ramus or no ramus?

 

[grooxx]

which look do you prefer? ramus or no ramus?

None, it's an ensemble thing, both guys posted here are gods on earth.
I was just stating that there are consequences to being forward grown on all the shape of the bones, and that focusing on on single parameter is therefore stupid.
Surgeries have to take your skull shape into account to fit into one of these archetypes.

 

[grooxx]

I don't think you need a long ramus to look good but I dont understand what youre trying to convey

A long ramus is associated with downward growth?

I would also add that downward growth is not necessarily associated with recession. As such is the exemple of Jorge.

 

[lelouch]

ramus length is genetic and it gets pushed forward if you're downward grown

 

[grooxx]

ramus length is genetic and it gets pushed forward if you're downward grown

I don't understand, reformulate

 

[Deleted member 18582]

I would also add that downward growth is not necessarily associated with recession. As such is the exemple of Jorge.

These terms are used very loosely on websites like this..
in any case yes I agree, and it may not always be a good idea for someone who has a short ramus to try to augment it with an implant

 

[grooxx]

These terms are used very loosely on websites like this..
in any case yes I agree, and it may not always be a good idea for someone who has a short ramus to try to augment it with an implant

Definitely

 

[Orc]

A long ramus is associated with downward growth?

it's the opposite, down-growth is usually ramus recession.

the mandibular body lengthens to compensate.

low iq thread.

 

[Deleted member 18582]

it's the opposite, down-growth is usually ramus recession.

the mandibular body lengthens to compensate.

low iq thread.

the length and angle of the ramus would be two different problems though with some degree of independence right?

 

[moggathon]

this entire debate/argument seems a little bit homosexual

 

[HarrierDuBois]

it's the opposite, down-growth is usually ramus recession.

the mandibular body lengthens to compensate.

low iq thread.

The taller the ramus the lower the gonial angle, GrAYcels these days.

 

[Orc]

the length and angle of the ramus would be two different problems though with some degree of independence right?

down-growth occurs at the gonial angle, your jaw can slope down past that but it doesn't harm the structural integrity of your mandible anatomy so I don't consider it recession.

the higher the gonial angle the weaker the bite:

Relationship between maximum bite force and the gonial angle in crossbite

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ramus length and forward growth is unrelated.

 

[Whatashame]

alain delon ramus

 

[thecel]

The whole cranium is shifted horizontally. The distance between the eyes and ears

the more forward the cranium better

 

[SurgeryEnjoyer]

He has a shit ramus, same as Barrett.
This is a masc ramus.
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[HarrierDuBois]

@SurgeryEnjoyer mf got me caging at work.

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

Legit. Ramus is just shitty cope

 

[bobsmith03]

Exactly.
Not that you cant have forward growth and down growth. It's just that the more you are forward grown, the shorter the rammus is going to be.

I have a short ramus (3cm), long mandible (12.7cm) but my mandible is not forward grown

 

[grooxx]

I have a short ramus (3cm), long mandible (12.7cm) but my mandible is not forward grown

Man read again what you wrote.

 

[Nebula]

Legit. Ramus is just shitty cope

Cuz ur jaw has like 160° gonial angle this is cope for u

 

[Nebula]

Dumb greycel thread quit this forum while u can

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

Cuz ur jaw has like 160° gonial angle this is cope for u

I literally do not care.

I wouldnt look much better with a longer ramus

 

[arabcelxxx]

Are you retarded nigger?

 

[bobsmith03]

Man read again what you wrote.

so why is my mandible so long if I'm downgrown. its over for me anyway, bimax won't even fix me

 

[bobsmith03]

Man read again what you wrote.

can incisor chewing give you forward growth of mandible

 

[bobsmith03]

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Are you retarded nigger?

its all about this bro. ramus length doesnt mean anything

 

[Nebula]

I literally do not care.

I wouldnt look much better with a longer ramus

Yeah cuz ur subhuman. One good feature doesnt make the face but it would still improve u. Negative iq here

 

[danny phantom]

Incorrect in most cases except drago’s, with a short ramus your jaw frontal angle will normally be smaller than it should be, which doesn’t signify a lack of forward growth but just isn’t aesthetically ideal. Drago somehow escapes this failo though.

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

Yeah cuz ur subhuman.

Me being subhuman has nothing to do with this

One good feature doesnt make the face but it would still improve u. Negative iq here

It makes extremely minimal difference for how hyped it is

For example id much rather have a shitty ramus than a anteriorly recessed jaw, short chin, bad cheekbones and even browridge
+ You can develop a larger ramus or atleast the appearance of it at any age through bruxism, so its literally the last feature that Im depressed about

 

[grooxx]

It seems to me that most people on this thread don't understand the meaning of it.
People be spilling their rammus length like their dick length when it's all about proportion.

 

[iam good boy]

He has a shit ramus, same as Barrett.
This is a masc ramus.
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Does that hurt his neck when moving side

 

[HarrierDuBois]

Does that hurt his neck when moving side

Nope, mine is also tall and it does not hurt the neck.

 

[Deleted member 43403]

He has a shit ramus, same as Barrett.
This is a masc ramus.
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Why Do I Have Shit Ramus Humble Chadlite ? WHY ? Name 5 Better Looking People Than Me

 

[HarrierDuBois]

Why Do I Have Shit Ramus Humble Chadlite ? WHY ? Name 5 Better Looking People Than Me
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@cytoplasm 5x.

 

[Deleted member 43403]

@cytoplasm 5x.

Name three then humble Chadlite I'm being fr

 

[HarrierDuBois]

Name three then humble Chadlite I'm being fr

Chico in youth, Eriksen, Ballou, Gandy in youth, Del Rio frauded pics.

 

[Deleted member 43403]

Chico in youth, Eriksen, Ballou, Gandy in youth, Del Rio frauded pics.

Why Is Chico the Framelet with no bones there humble Chadlite ? And why didn't you include yourself

Drago is the best looking human in the world (PSL)

I thought that Hexum mogged because of pheno until I saw this pics:

looksmax.org

 

[HarrierDuBois]

Why Is Chico the Framelet with no bones there humble Chadlite ? And why didn't you include yourself

Drago is the best looking human in the world (PSL)

I thought that Hexum mogged because of pheno until I saw this pics:

looksmax.org