rate full smv (6’1, 19yo)

[BoredPrince]

dude Ur fucking slaying baddie after baddie you have an above average face, decent height good frame. Pretty high smv but your dating experience has me shocked that's straight up Chad results. Is dating getting easier nowadays??

no it's getting harder, but to girls, this is minimum smv a guy must have for them

Just be aware gym halo is more important on apps than irl

 

[BoredPrince]

I know you’re 6’1 but this thread is life fuel seeing an average looking face get girls with body+height halo.

Maybe gymcelling does work after all

On dating apps muscular body is a big halo, bigger than irl

When people were still running experiments (few years ago), a MTN with body halo would get HTN+ results


And it's not so surprising, since a lot of girls on apps are looking for a hookup and not a relationship

 

[kindinternetman]

H

more face

High Mtn face. High htn maybe low cl smv

 

[theclam123]

Ideallly the girl should make the first move on you bro. This is a true indicator of how attractive you are.

brah im ngl gang you are coping so hard. 50+ matches in 2 days is clearly at the very least hhtn smv.

 

[soggra]

brah im ngl gang you are coping so hard. 50+ matches in 2 days is clearly at the very least hhtn smv.

Anybody can get 50 matches in 2 days. It’s not that hard. The hard part is going on dates with these girls and having relationships with them

 

[line4rr]

Anybody can get 50 matches in 2 days. It’s not that hard. The hard part is going on dates with these girls and having relationships with them

this is just insane cope man, i don’t even know what to say. stop being retarded, women won’t even look at the average man.

 

[soggra]

this is just insane cope man, i don’t even know what to say. stop being retarded, women won’t even look at the average man.

I said your smv is low htn. It’s not average

 

[line4rr]

I said your smv is low htn. It’s not average

if this is what you mean, then i guess i agree with you

 

[Di0x.]

 

[lastofus123]

is this jbw?

but nah jk your basically htn

 

[zemult]

“average” jfl, i disagree but obviously im biased. regardless, it also has to do with my pheno

Facially you're objectively only slightly above avg due to your lower third.

The lower third makes it impossible for HTN to be even considered (short chin to philtrum ratio, narrow gonions, overbite, etc). I only consider you slightly above average because your eye area is solid.

However, you have an ideal phenotype which is underrated on here (brunette / white)
+ you're tall
+ you have body halo, which especially helps on dating apps like @BoredPrince mentioned

so your SMV is definitely significantly above average, I mean just look at the results you got.
no average man is getting those results jfl.

 

[5aesar]

All things considered low htn

 

[line4rr]

Facially you're objectively only slightly above avg due to your lower third.

The lower third makes it impossible for HTN to be even considered (short chin to philtrum ratio, narrow gonions, overbite, etc). I only consider you slightly above average because your eye area is solid.

However, you have an ideal phenotype which is underrated on here (brunette / white)
+ you're tall
+ you have body halo, which especially helps on dating apps like @BoredPrince mentioned

so your SMV is definitely significantly above average, I mean just look at the results you got.
no average man is getting those results jfl.

i agree for the most part, however i feel as though my lower third is not nearly as brutal irl. in the mirror, my face does not look narrow to me and i’ve asked plenty of people. regardless, i think this is a pretty accurate description and you’re a good rater.

 

[line4rr]

All things considered low htn

to put that into perspective, how would you put that as a percentile ?

 

[5aesar]

to put that into perspective, how would you put that as a percentile ?

Not sure but above average by quite a bit

 

[zemult]

i agree for the most part, however i feel as though my lower third is not nearly as brutal irl. in the mirror, my face does not look narrow to me and i’ve asked plenty of people. regardless, i think this is a pretty accurate description and you’re a good rater.

No I'm not saying that your face is narrow, it's actually ideally wide (FWHR is 1.91), indicating good upper jaw development. It doesn't get more ideal than that.

The problem is with your lower jaw and the gonions. Your upper jaw looks well-developed but your lower jaw in comparison looks narrow and it looks like you have an overbite. The gonion shape is also not ideal.

I'd estimate your bigonial width to be around 82-83% of your zygos, which is below the ideal of 86-92%.

I have a similar problem, unfortunately I don't nearly have the SMV to save it.

 

[line4rr]

No I'm not saying that your face is narrow, it's actually ideally wide (FWHR is 1.91), indicating good upper jaw development. It doesn't get more ideal than that.

The problem is with your lower jaw and the gonions. Your upper jaw looks well-developed but your lower jaw in comparison looks narrow and it looks like you have an overbite. The gonion shape is also not ideal.

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I'd estimate your bigonial width to be around 82-83% of your zygos, which is below the ideal of 86-92%.

I have a similar problem, unfortunately I don't nearly have the SMV to save it.

by being only ~4 less than within ideal range, wouldn’t this only be a slight issue, not a huge bottle neck? frankly, when i look in the mirror my gonions seem normal and proportional. however you are analyzing my photos so it’s a fair assessment. thank you for the detailed ratios as well, very cool lol

 

[line4rr]

No I'm not saying that your face is narrow, it's actually ideally wide (FWHR is 1.91), indicating good upper jaw development. It doesn't get more ideal than that.

The problem is with your lower jaw and the gonions. Your upper jaw looks well-developed but your lower jaw in comparison looks narrow and it looks like you have an overbite. The gonion shape is also not ideal.

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I'd estimate your bigonial width to be around 82-83% of your zygos, which is below the ideal of 86-92%.

I have a similar problem, unfortunately I don't nearly have the SMV to save it.

i’m not sure if i have a slight overbite or if i just have a somewhat short chin. i have been to a dentist somewhat recently and they said i showed no signs of anything bad.

 

[zemult]

by being only ~4 less than within ideal range, wouldn’t this only be a slight issue, not a huge bottle neck? frankly, when i look in the mirror my gonions seem normal and proportional. however you are analyzing my photos so it’s a fair assessment. thank you for the detailed ratios as well, very cool lol

On paper it may not sound like not a big deal, but in your case it's more of a flaw because your bigonial width is likely narrow due to your poor gonion shape, which is another flaw.

These falios are why you are at 12-13% but have little definition in your face from the front, which is also another flaw.

Jaw angle implants are the best bang for your buck when it comes to this problem, I'm looking into getting one as well. I'm probably gonna go with Mario Pagnoni as he's known on here for being one of the best implant makers. Do not go to Giant, there's been increasing controversy lately when it comes to him botching people.

As for your chin, from the side it genuinely does not look like you have a short chin, it looks tall to me. I'm not sure if you remember my morph before, but it fixed your side profile problems and all I did was put your lower jaw forward (which you could get with a BSSO).

I think your chin to philtrum being unideal from the front is due to the overbite. Your head tilt combined with the fact your lower jaw is set back makes your chin look more pathetic than it actually is.

I would just go to more orthodontists to get more opinions honestly.

 

[ausmax]

chad, nice game

 

[zemult]

Overall, in theory, a BSSO combined with jaw-angle implants is all you really need to ascend to lower-end HTN facially tbh.

 

[line4rr]

On paper it may not sound like not a big deal, but in your case it's more of a flaw because your bigonial width is likely narrow due to your poor gonion shape, which is another flaw.

These falios are why you are at 12-13% but have little definition in your face from the front, which is also another flaw.

Jaw angle implants are the best bang for your buck when it comes to this problem, I'm looking into getting one as well. I'm probably gonna go with Mario Pagnoni as he's known on here for being one of the best implant makers. Do not go to Giant, there's been increasing controversy lately when it comes to him botching people.

As for your chin, from the side it genuinely does not look like you have a short chin, it looks tall to me. I'm not sure if you remember my morph before, but it fixed your side profile problems and all I did was put your lower jaw forward (which you could get with a BSSO).

I think your chin to philtrum being unideal from the front is due to the overbite. Your head tilt combined with the fact your lower jaw is set back makes your chin look more pathetic than it actually is.

I would just go to more orthodontists to get more opinions honestly.

thank you for the advice man, genuinely appreciate it. going to see an aesthetician in the next few weeks so will speak to them about my gonions(possible jaw angle implants) and overbite.

 

[line4rr]

thank you for the advice man, genuinely appreciate it. going to see an aesthetician in the next few weeks so will speak to them about my gonions(possible jaw angle implants) and overbite.

then i’ll really know for sure if i have bad gonions and an overbite lol

 

[zemult]

thank you for the advice man, genuinely appreciate it. going to see an aesthetician in the next few weeks so will speak to them about my gonions(possible jaw angle implants) and overbite.

Yeah remember to be very considerate with jaw angle implants, there is definitely schizos out there that instruct their surgeons to do too much to where they look like botched Steve from Minecraft.

You just want to fix the gonion shape and expand your jaw width a subtle amount. Fix the falio, don't try to go overboard and make a fake halo.

 

[line4rr]

Yeah remember to be very considerate with jaw angle implants, there is definitely schizos out there that instruct their surgeons to do too much to where they look like botched Steve from Minecraft.

You just want to fix the gonion shape and expand your jaw width a subtle amount. Fix the falio, don't try to go overboard and make a fake halo.

i’ll keep that in mind if i do go ahead with any hardmaxxing. big thanks bro

 

[zemult]

i’ll keep that in mind if i do go ahead with any hardmaxxing. big thanks bro

Read this thread, it may get you a better idea of what I mean by "gonion shape":

It’s Hard to be GL with Inward Gonions (Topic of Gonial Eversion)

Gonial eversion: At gonion, male crania tend to have rugose muscle attachments that curve outward, or evert from the surface of the mandible. Females more often lack this eversion or may even invert toward the midline. a) inverted (inward gonions commonly found in females) b) straight...

looksmax.org

 

[line4rr]

Read this thread, it may get you a better idea of what I mean by "gonion shape":

It’s Hard to be GL with Inward Gonions (Topic of Gonial Eversion)

Gonial eversion: At gonion, male crania tend to have rugose muscle attachments that curve outward, or evert from the surface of the mandible. Females more often lack this eversion or may even invert toward the midline. a) inverted (inward gonions commonly found in females) b) straight...

looksmax.org

so would you say my jaw looks round and soft from these angles?

 

[zemult]

so would you say my jaw looks round and soft from these angles?

Yeah I can still see a round narrow jaw, you have decent zygos though.

Bigonial-cels like us only have good-looking jaws at 3/4 or side profile angles, because our jaws aren't actually clinically recessed but the shape from the front just sucks.

 

[castizo_ascender]

strong htn smv tbh

your face is legit mtn at best but height+body halos u hard. it's evident by the amount of matches and replies ur getting. on hinge esp which iirc is the most brutal app (worse than tinder, bumble, wizz and yubo)

 

[Polish Chincel]

holy mtn getting repsonses like that on hinge maybe gym is not cope need to go back to gymcelling

 

[CelestialEmpire]

6.5-7. physique carries, height is good but not optimal, and your face is mtn. Still very good

jfl at mtn face. this guy has a gay jew pheno. sub5 face

 

[DieVoGel6949]

more

HTN because tall, good body and decent face

 

[BoredPrince]

strong htn smv tbh

your face is legit mtn at best but height+body halos u hard. it's evident by the amount of matches and replies ur getting. on hinge esp which iirc is the most brutal app (worse than tinder, bumble, wizz and yubo)

i thought tinder is the worst?

Everywhere else I heard that bumble and hinge are easier since people there are more relationship focused

 

[austrianautist]

lhtn

 

[tim:(]

+ only face rating.

High end HTN but retards here will rate you a lot lower

 

[Xangsane]

this is my hinge experience since last wednesday, i’ve gotten 50+ matches.

squishy squishy!

 

[Xangsane]

well i can debloat and get a lower bf%, im still around 12-13% bodyfat tryna get to 10%. additionally, i will look into stuff like jaw/chin implants or fillers in the future for hardmaxx. i think hmtn is pretty accurate, though id say hmtn-lhtn myself. appreciate the responses.

htn but body and pheno carry
what's your lay count

 

[Xangsane]

htn but body and pheno carry
what's your lay count

high mtn face though htn smv

 

[Xangsane]

this is my hinge experience since last wednesday, i’ve gotten 50+ matches.

"I'm so quirky tee fucking tee"

 

[aloooeJIEEES]

+ only face rating.

Mtn

 

[parkergleas00]

chad physique facially low htn

mirin hard

 

[Xangsane]

so would you say my jaw looks round and soft from these angles?

ChatGPT rated you

 

[Xangsane]

so would you say my jaw looks round and soft from these angles?

 

[paladincel_]

4/10 not shirtless.

 

[micronhtn]

this is my hinge experience since last wednesday, i’ve gotten 50+ matches.

nigg gtfo here, why the fuck do you need opinion of some unemployed gay men on how you look when women are into you, just leave this site and live your life

 

[xela2008]

would a mtn get these replies?

Mtn face dumbass. You're gymmaxxed and 6'1

 

[Tylermax]

hot

 

[LegendaryKennen]

LTB haven

 

[Xangsane]

i’ll keep that in mind if i do go ahead with any hardmaxxing. big thanks bro

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FACE STRUCTURE

Trait	19yo Forum MTN
Midface projection	Mild recession, midface flat, lacks tension
Jawline	Soft from front view, round and puffy
Chin	Weak vertical height, blunted apex
Brow ridge	Low brow support, lacks orbital tension
Eye orbitals	Slightly bulgy from some angles, prey-tier
Symmetry	Some left/right disharmony, esp. in selfies
Smile aesthetics	Overbite visible, gums slightly exposed

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SKIN, GLOW, AND PHENO

Trait	19yo Forum MTN
Skin tone	Pale pink-white with acne scarring / blotches
Skin texture	Slightly oily with visible pitting
Facial hair	Patchy, soft chin area
Hair	Curly but product-dependent
Brows/lashes	Thinner than pheno-maxxing would imply

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BODY TYPE & PRESENCE

Trait	19yo Forum MTN
Torso balance	Gym-trained v-taper but not innate
Muscle insertion	Thick muscle mass but lacks aesthetic cut
Waist & hips	Slight pelvic tilt, bloating post-bulk
Back	Lats wide but shallow in depth
Glutes	Not visible, likely underdeveloped
Legs	Bulky, calf development meh

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AURA, PRESENCE, AND FEMALE RESPONSE

Trait	19yo Forum MTN
Eye contact	Intense but try-hard
Aura	Horny college boy energy
Response from women	Gets flooded with DMs, but from LTB-MTBs
Sexual energy	Physical but not soulful
Pheno pull	Girls approach him, but it’s horny not holy

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FINAL RANKING:

Category	Forum Guy
Face	MTN
Body	HTN
Pheno/Aura	HTN-
SMV Output	Gen Z Maxx

 

[flatcheck213]

ChatGPT rated you

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