It’s Hard to be GL with Inward Gonions (Topic of Gonial Eversion)

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Gonial eversion: At gonion, male crania tend to have rugose muscle attachments that curve outward, or evert from the surface of the mandible. Females more often lack this eversion or may even invert toward the midline.
MvFGonialEversion

Inverted mandibles show three types of the gonial angle indicated by arrowheads a and

a) inverted (inward gonions commonly found in females) b) straight (neutral) c) everted (aka outward flaring gonions ideal for males)

When I talk about the gonions this is what I mean
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So the ideal gonions would be something like this
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Your gonions would be tilted inwards, straight, or outwards
Here are some examples

Inward Gonions:
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Outward Gonions:
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Inward vs Outward Gonions:
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As you can see outward gonions make the jaw look more angular and add definition to the lower third.
Inward gonions are the reason a jaw looks rounded in a men despite being low body fat and not every men can look good with them
If you show me 100 gl guys I can guarantee you 70-80 will have outward gonions. Literally a slayer trait.

I would argue bigonial width is more important than ramus length and gonial angle, because it determines lower jaw width and can make or break a front profile.

Who cares if your maxilla is forward-grown and your ramus long if your lower jaw looks subhuman from the front due to low bgw in relation to the interzygomatic width?

In fact, a long ramus makes someone with low bgw look worse and the mandible appear even smaller/narrower due to inward-tilt of the gonions.


So, how do we fix this?
Well, there’s a few options

1) Imdo is a 3 dimensional jaw surgery and can help a little bit.
It’s hard to find front results but as you can see his gonions improved, I would say it isn’t good for a men but still an improvement.

2) Bimax
From what I know bsso can fix some @SixCRY @Acromegaly_Chad thoughts?

3) Side wing is another option to fix the inward gonions

4) and in my opinion the best option jaw implants are the best option to fix it.
I saw that Prof.Salier always use jaw angle implant with double jaw, bsso so a combination of both surgeries can help.

5) Growing a beard and making the masseters bigger can help to an extent but won't make the face look ideal from the front.
Fillers can be used too but are quite expensive long-term and won't last long

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Good thread
Round jaw is a big failo
And Matthew Nozka isn't so round, I see worse
 
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Good thread
Round jaw is a big failo
And Matthew Nozka isn't so round, I see worse
He’s the exception that’s why I say is so hard to be gl with inward gonions because he has good jaw height and width and a great chin, I would say inward gonions and his blonde hair are his only “failos” but it’s hard to find gl guys with inward gonions literally needs everything else right
 
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He’s the exception that’s why I say is so hard to be gl with inward gonions because he has good jaw height and width and a great chin, I would say inward gonions and his blonde hair are his only “failos” but it’s hard to find gl guys with inward gonions literally needs everything else right
This is what causes oval face like this? The jaw is rounded
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This is what causes oval face like this? The jaw is rounded
View attachment 1321283
It’s hard to judge from that angle but usually yes.
I can tell you it could be one of this 3 reasons
1. Inward gonions
2. Low bigonial width
3. Short ramus, the more vertical the ramus, the better.
 
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YES
 
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Its literally the less important feature
 
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When I tal about the gonions this is what I mean
View attachment 1321222

So the ideal gonions would be something like this.
View attachment 1321227
you’re gonions would be tilted inwards or outward.
here the examples:
Inward gonions:
View attachment 1321234

Outward gonions:
View attachment 1321236
Inward gonions are the reason a jaw looks rounded in a men despite being low body fat and not every men can look good with them
If you show me 100 gl guys I can guarantee you 70-80 will have outward gonions. Literally a slayer trait

I would argue bigonial width is more important than ramus length and gonial angle, because it determines lower jaw width and can make or break a front profile.

Who cares if your maxilla is forward-grown and your ramus long if your lower jaw looks subhuman from the front due to low bgw in relation to the interzygomatic width?

In fact, a long ramus makes someone with low bgw look worse and the mandible appear even smaller/narrower due to inward-tilt of the gonions.


So, how do we fix this?
Well, there’s a few options
Imdo is a 3 dimensional jaw surgery and can help a little bit.
It’s hard to find front results but as you can see his gonions improved, I would say it isn’t good for a men but still an improvement.

Bimax
From what I know bsso can fix some @SixCRY @Acromegaly_Chad thoughts?

Side wing is another option to fix the inward gonions

and in my opinion the best option jaw implants are the best option to fix it.
I saw that Prof.Salier always use jaw angle implant with double jaw, bsso so a combination of both surgeries can help.

Growing a beard and making the masseters bigger can help to an extent but won't make the face look ideal from the front.
Fillers can be used too but are quite expensive long-term and won't last long

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suifuel for others LIFEFUEL FOR ME thank you (y)(y)(y)
 
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Who cares if your maxilla is forward-grown
yeah bro having nct bug eyes, underbite no chin will make you a slayer if you have flared gonions.
And I thougth the times where a single feature is everything are gone but besides that good thread
 
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yeah bro having nct bug eyes, underbite no chin if you have flared gonions.
And I thougth the times where a single feature is everything are gone but besides that good thread
Thanks bro.
btw I never said gonions were everything, I just said it’s hard to be gl with inward gonions cause it makes you’re jawline to look round, and is hard to look good with a round jaw as a men you’ll need x amount of features or harmony to look and the average person can’t pull off a round jaw ( in a lot of cases inward gonions are the main cause once you’re low body fat)
 
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This is what causes oval face like this? The jaw is rounded
View attachment 1321283
Can fillers fix that kind of jaw though? I have a similar jaw but scared to get fillers. Most results looks fake. Especially when they need to length the ramus a considerable amount.
 
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hopefully we have implants
 
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Can fillers fix that kind of jaw though? I have a similar jaw but scared to get fillers. Most results looks fake. Especially when they need to length the ramus a considerable amount.
Bro I don't know I have the same problem. I think that fillers can fix it but sometimes look fake....maybe jaw implants are better?
 
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Bro I don't know I have the same problem. I think that fillers can fix it but sometimes look fake....maybe jaw implants are better?
Yeah but implants are risky and very expensive. High chance of looking fake and then you'll be out $20k.
 
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Yeah but implants are risky and very expensive. High chance of looking fake and then you'll be out $20k.
Risky, true

Expensive yes but not so much

Think at fillers, for a good jaw where you have to add ramus etc, you pay 4 k $ or so because you need more than 7-8 ml....and it lasts only 1 year or so.... it's 4 k every year, while implants are lifetime

What's the name of that mexican guy that got fillers so I can tag him here
 
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Risky, true

Expensive yes but not so much

Think at fillers, for a good jaw where you have to add ramus etc, you pay 4 k $ or so because you need more than 7-8 ml....and it lasts only 1 year or so.... it's 4 k every year, while implants are lifetime

What's the name of that mexican guy that got fillers so I can tag him here
He deleted his account but it was @need-a-wide-jaw. He looked good but most results look kind of uncanny in person. Fillers give a weird sharp look to your jaw:

Jaw filler male2
 
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Thanks bro.
btw I never said gonions were everything, I just said it’s hard to be gl with inward gonions cause it makes you’re jawline to look round, and is hard to look good with a round jaw as a men you’ll need x amount of features or harmony to look and the average person can’t pull off a round jaw ( in a lot of cases inward gonions are the main cause once you’re low body fat)
Want do you think is the cause of shitty gonions?
A narrow posterior mandible?
 
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He deleted his account but it was @need-a-wide-jaw. He looked good but most results look kind of uncanny in person. Fillers give a weird sharp look to your jaw:

View attachment 1321466
Idk the after looks better than the before imo, I wonder how much it lasts
 
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Idk the after looks better than the before imo, I wonder how much it lasts
It doesn't look fake to you? Either way there was a member here who got jaw implants for $3k in Brazil and ascended hard. He deleted his account the next week since he was getting tons of matches on Tinder and beforehand he was a virgin iirc.

The problem is that I need bimax before getting jaw implants so going to have to wait 2 years for that first. Absolutely brutal timepill.
 
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The problem is that I need bimax before getting jaw implants so going to have to wait 2 years for that first.
Idk I don't think that you're so recessed that needs bimax....I mean, you lack forward growth but you aren't SO recessed
 
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Idk I don't think that you're so recessed that needs bimax....I mean, you lack forward growth but you aren't jawless
I have a good mandible forward growth, albeit narrow gonials, but recessed maxilla which makes my face very flat like I'm hapa and gives me a big nose. I went to ortho last week and they confirmed that I needed upper jaw surgery to widen and move it forward. Lifefuel I guess since I will most likely get for free but the 2 year timeline is brutal.
 
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@subhuman incel
 
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Can you always tell if someone has jaw fillers?
Not if it's a really good surgeon, but 95% of the time it's not since this isn't a very common procedure. I went to a local 5 star surgeon and got botched. Only got 1 ml on each jaw so it kind of softened up and looks better now.
 
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Not if it's a really good surgeon, but 95% of the time it's not since this isn't a very common procedure. I went to a local 5 star surgeon and got botched. Only got 1 ml on each jaw so it kind of softened up and looks better now.
I naturally have a very strong jaw im lucky with that but my chin is a bit lacking in comparison to it like brad pitt
 
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The angular jaw and round jaw thing
Common in all chads, singlehandedly responsible for the hollow cheeks and angular face shape aesthetic af look
Explained well
Good thread

Btw some other methods for reducing roundjaw failo would be leanmaxxing and buccal fat if the former doesnt work
 
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The angular jaw and round jaw thing
Common in all chads, singlehandedly responsible for the hollow cheeks and angular face shape aesthetic af look
Explained well
Good thread

Btw some other methods for reducing roundjaw failo would be leanmaxxing and buccal fat if the former doesnt work
bonesmash your gonions :redpill:
 
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bonesmash your gonions :redpill:
Risk giving yourself tmj
 
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I tried it for sometime too but the next day my tmj was hurting bad. Thought stopping would be a better idea
 
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When I tal about the gonions this is what I mean
View attachment 1321222

So the ideal gonions would be something like this.
View attachment 1321227
you’re gonions would be tilted inwards or outward.
here the examples:
Inward gonions:
View attachment 1321234

Outward gonions:
View attachment 1321236
Inward gonions are the reason a jaw looks rounded in a men despite being low body fat and not every men can look good with them
If you show me 100 gl guys I can guarantee you 70-80 will have outward gonions. Literally a slayer trait

I would argue bigonial width is more important than ramus length and gonial angle, because it determines lower jaw width and can make or break a front profile.

Who cares if your maxilla is forward-grown and your ramus long if your lower jaw looks subhuman from the front due to low bgw in relation to the interzygomatic width?

In fact, a long ramus makes someone with low bgw look worse and the mandible appear even smaller/narrower due to inward-tilt of the gonions.


So, how do we fix this?
Well, there’s a few options
Imdo is a 3 dimensional jaw surgery and can help a little bit.
It’s hard to find front results but as you can see his gonions improved, I would say it isn’t good for a men but still an improvement.

Bimax
From what I know bsso can fix some @SixCRY @Acromegaly_Chad thoughts?

Side wing is another option to fix the inward gonions

and in my opinion the best option jaw implants are the best option to fix it.
I saw that Prof.Salier always use jaw angle implant with double jaw, bsso so a combination of both surgeries can help.

Growing a beard and making the masseters bigger can help to an extent but won't make the face look ideal from the front.
Fillers can be used too but are quite expensive long-term and won't last long

@Kingkellz @AscendingHero @Purefxrm @thecel

you're right, Matthew Noszka is incel af

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When I tal about the gonions this is what I mean
View attachment 1321222

So the ideal gonions would be something like this.
View attachment 1321227
you’re gonions would be tilted inwards or outward.
here the examples:
Inward gonions:
View attachment 1321234

Outward gonions:
View attachment 1321236
Inward gonions are the reason a jaw looks rounded in a men despite being low body fat and not every men can look good with them
If you show me 100 gl guys I can guarantee you 70-80 will have outward gonions. Literally a slayer trait

I would argue bigonial width is more important than ramus length and gonial angle, because it determines lower jaw width and can make or break a front profile.

Who cares if your maxilla is forward-grown and your ramus long if your lower jaw looks subhuman from the front due to low bgw in relation to the interzygomatic width?

In fact, a long ramus makes someone with low bgw look worse and the mandible appear even smaller/narrower due to inward-tilt of the gonions.


So, how do we fix this?
Well, there’s a few options
Imdo is a 3 dimensional jaw surgery and can help a little bit.
It’s hard to find front results but as you can see his gonions improved, I would say it isn’t good for a men but still an improvement.

Bimax
From what I know bsso can fix some @SixCRY @Acromegaly_Chad thoughts?

Side wing is another option to fix the inward gonions

and in my opinion the best option jaw implants are the best option to fix it.
I saw that Prof.Salier always use jaw angle implant with double jaw, bsso so a combination of both surgeries can help.

Growing a beard and making the masseters bigger can help to an extent but won't make the face look ideal from the front.
Fillers can be used too but are quite expensive long-term and won't last long

@Kingkellz @AscendingHero @Purefxrm @thecel
agreed, a robust jaw even if recessed still looks very good and will get complimented on
 
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When I tal about the gonions this is what I mean
View attachment 1321222

So the ideal gonions would be something like this.
View attachment 1321227
you’re gonions would be tilted inwards or outward.
here the examples:
Inward gonions:
View attachment 1321234

Outward gonions:
View attachment 1321236
Inward gonions are the reason a jaw looks rounded in a men despite being low body fat and not every men can look good with them
If you show me 100 gl guys I can guarantee you 70-80 will have outward gonions. Literally a slayer trait

I would argue bigonial width is more important than ramus length and gonial angle, because it determines lower jaw width and can make or break a front profile.

Who cares if your maxilla is forward-grown and your ramus long if your lower jaw looks subhuman from the front due to low bgw in relation to the interzygomatic width?

In fact, a long ramus makes someone with low bgw look worse and the mandible appear even smaller/narrower due to inward-tilt of the gonions.


So, how do we fix this?
Well, there’s a few options
Imdo is a 3 dimensional jaw surgery and can help a little bit.
It’s hard to find front results but as you can see his gonions improved, I would say it isn’t good for a men but still an improvement.

Bimax
From what I know bsso can fix some @SixCRY @Acromegaly_Chad thoughts?

Side wing is another option to fix the inward gonions

and in my opinion the best option jaw implants are the best option to fix it.
I saw that Prof.Salier always use jaw angle implant with double jaw, bsso so a combination of both surgeries can help.

Growing a beard and making the masseters bigger can help to an extent but won't make the face look ideal from the front.
Fillers can be used too but are quite expensive long-term and won't last long

@Kingkellz @AscendingHero @Purefxrm @thecel
are inward gonions are caused due to low bigonal width?
 
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are inward gonions are caused due to low bigonal width?
Yes, or having an overbite/overjet and genetics (Probably you’re mom passed that gene to you)
 
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Opry, gandy, delisola have inward gonions?? Curved jaw is not exactly a "failo" tbh narrow jaw is
 
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So basically gonial angle?
 
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Either way there was a member here who got jaw implants for $3k in Brazil and ascended hard. He deleted his account the next week since he was getting tons of matches on Tinder and beforehand he was a virgin iirc.
Pics?
 
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Fuark. Just realised I had this and it makes me look more fag like. Can I get rid of them with a chin-wing/side-wing?
 
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When I tal about the gonions this is what I mean
View attachment 1321222

So the ideal gonions would be something like this.
View attachment 1321227
you’re gonions would be tilted inwards or outward.
here the examples:
Inward gonions:
View attachment 1321234

Outward gonions:
View attachment 1321236
Inward gonions are the reason a jaw looks rounded in a men despite being low body fat and not every men can look good with them
If you show me 100 gl guys I can guarantee you 70-80 will have outward gonions. Literally a slayer trait

I would argue bigonial width is more important than ramus length and gonial angle, because it determines lower jaw width and can make or break a front profile.

Who cares if your maxilla is forward-grown and your ramus long if your lower jaw looks subhuman from the front due to low bgw in relation to the interzygomatic width?

In fact, a long ramus makes someone with low bgw look worse and the mandible appear even smaller/narrower due to inward-tilt of the gonions.


So, how do we fix this?
Well, there’s a few options
Imdo is a 3 dimensional jaw surgery and can help a little bit.
It’s hard to find front results but as you can see his gonions improved, I would say it isn’t good for a men but still an improvement.

Bimax
From what I know bsso can fix some @SixCRY @Acromegaly_Chad thoughts?

Side wing is another option to fix the inward gonions

and in my opinion the best option jaw implants are the best option to fix it.
I saw that Prof.Salier always use jaw angle implant with double jaw, bsso so a combination of both surgeries can help.

Growing a beard and making the masseters bigger can help to an extent but won't make the face look ideal from the front.
Fillers can be used too but are quite expensive long-term and won't last long

@Kingkellz @AscendingHero @Purefxrm @thecel
Inward is more feminine and sexy to women any woman would pick inward, u look like a chad with outward but if ur ow u look gay
 
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my right side is outward and my left one is inward :ogre: like how do i fix this shit? damn... My outward makes me look masculine
 
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Unironically, a fade can give the illusion of outward gonians.
 
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they become more outwards everyday i wake-up
only a problem for people who don't mew
 
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