Rate me (face reveal)

Leonardo Roque said:
6/10


Flaws


-High body fat percentage, around 18-22% (The ideal bf for men is 12%, this will make the bones and muscles of the face more visible)
-Slight negative canthal tilt
-Thin Eyebrows (they should be dark and wholesome)
-Rounded Lower Third
-Bad chin to pilthrum ratio, around 1:1,5 (ideal is around 1:2,5)
-Significant asymmetry between the eyes
-Lack in some maxilla definition, less eye support
-Dont have a compact midface of 1:1
-Dont have the ideal eye spacing
-Facial blemishes, acne (its not a sign of good healthy)


Bests


Eyebrows

-Are positive tilted
-Have a good flatterned curve
-Small eyebrow-eyes distance
-Prominent brow ridge

Nose - Your best feature

-Your nose is straight
-Perfect ratio around 4:1
-good height-width
-Perfect angle around 35°

Midface

-high set cheeckbones
-"dove-tailling" cheeckbones
-Good symmetry and proportion

Eyes

-Almond Eyes shape
-Deep set
-Compact and wide eye orbits
-Good limbal ring
-Minimal upper eyelid exposure
-No scleral show
-straight eyelids
-Downward pointing medial canthus (could be better)
-White sclera

Lips

-They are wide and not rounded
-The ideal medium size
-Great porportion of 1:1

Jaw

You dont have a visible jaw, its necessary to be below 15% bf and a side photo to rate better your Jaw, Chin, Cheeckbones and Skull structure.


Conclusion:


Slight above average face. Its not bad, and you can improve some features that are not linked to genetics. Good luck!
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This is the reason why I wanted to do a face reveal.
 
uglymug said:
I fee your pain. Autism is soo underrated in how much pain it can cause people. I’ve literally had to train my brain for 4 years just to get a fraction of what nt people experience
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A lot of it is due to confidence though. Even when I was at my most socially clueless around people, whenever I suddenly became very confident, it all became very clear and I just started talking to many new people and making new friends and people respected me more, but that never lasted very long because to reach that point, I had to remove all my inhibitions.

I believe that a lot of this is due to the phenomenon that my mother has often told me, which is that most of the things that I can fix, I will tell myself that I am unable to do them because I set my own obstacles without realizing it, instead of talking to people, I stay away because I secretly fear being rejected or mocked but when I do talk to people, opportunities open up, I make more friends and things become better for me.

Of course, autism is a spectrum, so not everyone will be able to take the same path as me, we each have to find our own path to success, but I think that in my case, it's just a matter of going out more to avoid being in my own head too much. My mind is my enemy, not my ally, unlike what I used to think.
 
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Tony said:
3.5 psl
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Teny my sweet precious little bean you’re 10000 psl in my heart Ilysm let’s have seggs with tsertser and lette (@TsarTsar444 @lutte )
 
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uglymug said:
This is the reason why I wanted to do a face reveal.
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The main problem with this forum is that the comments you receive on your looks will make your self confidence even lower than it already is, which will make it even more difficult for you to succeed with women, because you will struggle to let go of the things you learned on here. Whether looks matter or not, obsessing over it won't give you the results you want.
 
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copingvolcel said:
A lot of it is due to confidence though. Even when I was at my most socially clueless around people, whenever I suddenly became very confident, it all became very clear and I just started talking to many new people and making new friends and people respected me more,
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Wtf the same thing has happened to me before.
copingvolcel said:
but that never lasted very long because to reach that point, I had to remove all my inhibitions.

I believe that a lot of this is due to the phenomenon that my mother has often told me, which is that most of the things that I can fix, I will tell myself that I am unable to do them because I set my own obstacles without realizing it, instead of talking to people, I stay away because I secretly fear being rejected or mocked but when I do talk to people, opportunities open up, I make more friends and things become better for me.

Of course, autism is a spectrum, so not everyone will be able to take the same path as me, we each have to find our own path to success, but I think that in my case, it's just a matter of going out more to avoid being in my own head too much. My mind is my enemy, not my ally, unlike what I used to think.
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Yeah, idk what autism even means to me, like the definition is too vague and i’ve improved to a point where i don’t care that I technically am likely to have jt
 
copingvolcel said:
The main problem with this forum is that the comments you receive on your looks will make your self confidence even lower than it already is, which will make it even more difficult for you to succeed with women, because you will struggle to let go of the things you learned on here. Whether looks matter or not, obsessing over it won't give you the results you want.
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My confidence is already low from analyzing my face myself. Thats why i face revealed after I knew there was nothing I would rope over. Also pm rates prepped me for some things.
 
cope
 
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uglymug said:
My confidence is already low from analyzing my face myself. Thats why i face revealed after I knew there was nothing I would rope over. Also pm rates prepped me for some things.
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You need to change your mindset by letting go of all that bullshit you learned online and by becoming more confident by doing more narcissistic things, that will attract way more women than what you are doing right now.

The only way the black pill can help you is if you use it to improve your physical appearance without being constantly insecure about your looks, if you can't do that, then you shouldn't have it at all.
 
copingvolcel said:
You need to change your mindset by letting go of all that bullshit you learned online and by becoming more confident by doing more narcissistic things, that will attract way more women than what you are doing right now.
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How??? If i do something narcy people will call me ugly because im not chad
copingvolcel said:
The only way the black pill can help you is if you use it to improve your physical appearance without being constantly insecure about your looks, if you can't do that, then you shouldn't have it at all.
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I hate my face but I’m fine with it. This forum has defo helped me get looksmaxxing knowledge. Like tretinoin
 
copingvolcel said:
I meant that getting muscular can make you go from 5/10 to 7/10 and it's true. It won't turn you into a Chad though and if you're too shy and insecure to talk to women, you'll do worse than a confident 5/10 even if you're gymmaxxed.

But ugly guys who are confident enough to talk to women get friendzoned.

My point is this: If you're average and you're an incel, it's because you're a mentalcel, either due to autism or some other mental disorder. This doesn't mean you're condemned to be an incel for life, but you have to fight hard against that disorder and if you really commit to it, you can succeed, as long as your mental disorder does not prevent you to do well in dating.

In my case, it doesn't affect my social skills but affects my decision making by making me lost in my mind most of the time, which is why I am still a kissless virgin at 23. Elliot Rodger was also autistic. Most incels are autistic. It doesn't mean I can't get a girlfriend, it just means I have an obstacle to overcome.

The black pill in itself is an autistic belief and it only gives the disorder more power over us. The reason why black pillers are autistic is because if you think about it, there are guys who are very ugly who get laid a lot while there are guys who are really good looking who are so insecure that they never get laid, so it's not all about looks, but it's a very autistic thing to get obsessed with the idea that only looks matter.

Being autistic is worse than being ugly or average height.
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don't rely on social circle to get laid, its incosistent.
most of my lays(99%) are from daygame/nightgame/online dating.

you can get better girls from social circle and thats the way normies date and get laid otherwise they cant do shit
 
Yolosweg said:
don't rely on social circle to get laid, its incosistent.
most of my lays(99%) are from daygame/nightgame/online dating.

you can get better girls from social circle and thats the way normies date and get laid otherwise they cant do shit
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It may not be the most effective way but it's the best way to start for someone like me who has no experience with women at all. You can't start cold approaching women or texting random women if you have no experience with women.
 
uglymug said:
What about my face stands out as not gl to you?
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Don't pay attention to him, he's a bully, like most of the guys on this site.
 
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4-4.25 psl, good base and chadlite maybe even weak chad potential
 
uglymug said:
^^^THIS THIS THIS. Literally one day I was like. “I’ll try to listen and just respond” and it made my interactions much richer. And also exposing myself emotionally definately helped me become more relatable to my friends.

Its pretty easy for me to cope with being aspie rn because most of my mental resources have been dedocated to making me NT. I literally think about every dialogue option i have like its skyrim. And process that. Along with other things that might subtly manipulate the other person into a sense of normalcy. Very mentally draining. But its second nature at this point

Yeah thats what im going to do
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I believe that the best way to start is to first get your first girlfriend, and you can do that through social circles or even by asking the people in your family, just tell them you are searching for a girlfriend and would like some help and they may help you. Just recently, some people in my family have been offering me to introduce me to some young women they know in the countryside, so I'll have some opportunities in the near future and if I grow my social circles, I can get even more opportunities.

As for the dual mating strategy bullshit you may have learned on here and all the other stuff, please just forget all of that because it will just make you paranoid and unable to trust anyone. I believe we can only trust our own experiences, not the lies we read on the internet. I wish I had discovered that 6 years ago though instead of being so naive.
 
copingvolcel said:
It may not be the most effective way but it's the best way to start for someone like me who has no experience with women at all. You can't start cold approaching women or texting random women if you have no experience with women.
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ofcourse you can, i had some pre-game lays and they were meh, after i looksmaxed, gamemaxxed and just trial and error to oblivion i managed to go be a real life slayer.
Just learn online how to talk to girls and how to behave/dress etc and approach 1000 girls and you will learn and get laid.

I didn't start as a slayer, i was never a simp tho because i never gave girls too much attention or effort. But since i actually put effort to improve and meet girls i started getting laid left and right.
Everybody starts somewhere, i do belive you shouldn't start with online dating but have like 1000+ approaches irl(clubs/daygame) to get started while doing online as backup.
 
Leonardo Roque said:
6/10


Flaws


-High body fat percentage, around 18-22% (The ideal bf for men is 12%, this will make the bones and muscles of the face more visible)
-Slight negative canthal tilt
-Thin Eyebrows (they should be dark and wholesome)
-Rounded Lower Third
-Bad chin to pilthrum ratio, around 1:1,5 (ideal is around 1:2,5)
-Significant asymmetry between the eyes
-Lack in some maxilla definition, less eye support
-Dont have a compact midface of 1:1
-Dont have the ideal eye spacing
-Facial blemishes, acne (its not a sign of good healthy)


Bests


Eyebrows

-Are positive tilted
-Have a good flatterned curve
-Small eyebrow-eyes distance
-Prominent brow ridge

Nose - Your best feature

-Your nose is straight
-Perfect ratio around 4:1
-good height-width
-Perfect angle around 35°

Midface

-high set cheeckbones
-"dove-tailling" cheeckbones
-Good symmetry and proportion

Eyes

-Almond Eyes shape
-Deep set
-Compact and wide eye orbits
-Good limbal ring
-Minimal upper eyelid exposure
-No scleral show
-straight eyelids
-Downward pointing medial canthus (could be better)
-White sclera

Lips

-They are wide and not rounded
-The ideal medium size
-Great porportion of 1:1

Jaw

You dont have a visible jaw, its necessary to be below 15% bf and a side photo to rate better your Jaw, Chin, Cheeckbones and Skull structure.


Conclusion:


Slight above average face. Its not bad, and you can improve some features that are not linked to genetics. Good luck!
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Holy shit, can you rate me via PM?
One of the most detailed ratings i’ve seen in a while
 
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obv not professional. I just used gradient.

but even a too wide ipd looks much better and high class conpared to too low
 
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Bri ish pheno. Also narrow palate.

bri ish
 
HTN.

Obvious failos are your skin, high bodyfat and eye area. Get a skin routine going, gymmax, tiktok haircut and you should be fine.
 
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zeke714 said:
HTN.

Obvious failos are your skin, high bodyfat and eye area. Get a skin routine going, gymmax, tiktok haircut and you should be fine.
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Is my ipd narrow to you?

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5 psl if you just do the basics...
 
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I'd say 5/10 leaning 5.5/10. You look very young, so the acne is kinda normal (/not unusual).
If you become more shredded and get rid of the acne I can see you becoming a 6.5-7/10.

Also, from personal :bluepill: experience:
If you really like a person, you won't notice the acne anymore after some time has passed.
My ex had severe acne and I honestly couldn't care less. It only came to my mind when people/friends who got to meet her said to me that they're sorry for her or when she herself brought it up (cause she tried to fix it for 3years before she finally managed).
 
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how old do i look?
 
Borderline htn since white + perfectly average face
 
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thegoat said:
Borderline htn since white + perfectly average face
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idk what perfectly average means? like do i have noticeably ugly and good features that balance. or such a average face that there is no reaction either way
 
sfs. downgraft or cw bimax
 
could slay bro, htn once acne is sorted out, would have to be biggest failo
 
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