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BrothaGus

BrothaGus

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Background Info:
Height: 5'9.8" (growth plates are closed)
Weight: 149 pounds
Frame is mid. Normal clavicles, proportionate wingspan. 7in long hands (yes im a handcel :forcedsmile::feelswhy:)

Currently mmtn. Goal is hmtn. I don't think I'll ever reach high tier normie unless I get bimax and a canthoplexy. Hell, maybe even trimax:hnghn:


Height
- MSM with glucosamine, to keep ~0.5-1 inch of morning height.

I've heard it prevents your spine from completely decompressing. Dad's been using this for 6 months and he is definitely a little taller.

- Nike Air Max 1, to add ~1.34 inches
Just watched a YouTube video of big rob from celebheights where he measures his before and after.

- 1cm comfort inserts
Bought these a few months ago on TikTok shop and forgot about them but I just found them in my closet. Might as well put them to use.

- Fixing anterior pelvic tilt
It used to be a lot worse but I've been doing everything I can for the past month to correct it. It's almost there, but I think I can squeeze out maybe another 1/4 inch of height.

The airmaxes and inserts will put me at 5'11.5, giving me around a 1.5 inch boost. If msm with glucosamine works, it's safe to assume 6ft at least, 6'0.5 at best. As it is right now, I tell people I'm 5'8 and I watch them go crazy. After this protocol, I'll tell people im 5'9 jfl. When I take my shoes off I'll be around 5'10.5 and no one will suspect much from a 1.5 difference.

Frame

Plan A: 8 week cycle of Rad-140 with enclo during and after for PCT.

I've already been in the gym for about 7 months. When I started I was 130 pounds, around 12% bodyfat. I've gained 20ish pounds since then and sit around 13-15% bodyfat. The goal of this cycle would to push 170 pounds lean, with specific emphasis on the lats and delts for that v taper.

Plan B: Testosterone Enanthate
Haven't done much research on this yet. Older brother ran this when he was 17 and he responded very well. Although who knows maybe I'll respond terribly. His frame genetics are very different from mine, as he's a whole 4 inches taller than me.


Skin
Currently using 0.05% Tretinoin 3x a week.
I exfoliate my skin at night, apply tret, then use moisturizer. In the morning I use a sunscreen moisturizer, I think it is 75 spf. I did not have a "purge phase" with tret, and my skin has never been excessively red.


Coloring
Currently am taking coloring supplements daily.

- Beta Carotene: 975mcg
- Lycopene: 30.9mg
- Astaxanthin: 12.7mg
- Vitamin E (just to help skin barrier): 84.4mg

My eyebrows are naturally big, dark and well shaped. Lashes are naturally long, dark, and thick. I use a lash curler occasionally if they are too flat, which causes my neutral cantal tilt to look negative. It also helps with UEE.


I'm not gonna mention anything else bc im just mentioning the areas that need major improvement. Hair and style and all that other good stuff is taken care of. Life quality should only get better from here. Let me know what y'all think. Please excuse my crappy thread formatting. This is my 2nd account (deleted my first one) I swear im not grey:forcedsmile:

PS: another thing I forgot to mention -- pregab.
PSS: forgot to mention my tmj. it makes my face lopsided. been doing exercises and chin tucks to balance my mandible out and its been working so far. also been bone smashing my chin and mandible every night and my lower third has been getting better day by day. call it cope, but the swelling saves me.

Much love bhais,
OutRed
 
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Didn’t read all but looks promising asl how old ru tho I don’t think u mentioned
 
Rad is a w
 
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do you have any pictures? also how old are you
 
15, 16 in march.
 
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how do you know your growth plates are closed then did you get x-ray
I got a wrist xray around 6 weeks ago. Doctor said that they are almost closed, if not fully closed. So the cartilage left if there still is any left is very thin, so chances of growing anymore are extremely low. And even if I do grow, it will be 1/4 of an inch at most.
 
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Plan A: 8 week cycle of Rad-140 with enclo during and after for PCT.
I've already been in the gym for about 7 months. When I started I was 130 pounds, around 12% bodyfat. I've gained 20ish pounds since then and sit around 13-15% bodyfat. The goal of this cycle would to push 170 pounds lean, with specific emphasis on the lats and delts for that v taper.

Plan B: Testosterone Enanthate
Haven't done much research on this yet. Older brother ran this when he was 17 and he responded very well. Although who knows maybe I'll respond terribly. His frame genetics are very different from mine, as he's a whole 4 inches taller than me.
this is stupid. rad sucks and enclo sucks so does pct
just hop on test and B&C
 
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this is stupid. rad sucks and enclo sucks so does pct
just hop on test and B&C
i mean pneumo made some noticeable gains on rad though right
 
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I got a wrist xray around 6 weeks ago. Doctor said that they are almost closed, if not fully closed. So the cartilage left if there still is any left is very thin, so chances of growing anymore are extremely low. And even if I do grow, it will be 1/4 of an inch at most.
when did you get most of your growth? 15 seems on the earlier side of things for growth
 
when did you get most of your growth? 15 seems on the earlier side of things for growth
got most of my growth when I was 13. In 8th grade, I was 5'7.8. In 9th I was around 5'9-5'9.5. The first semester of 10th just ended and I am just under 5'10. Im also a somewhat early bloomer. Almost everyone that comments on my look says I look wayyyy older than I actually am.
 
i mean pneumo made some noticeable gains on rad though right
what is this stupid reason? yk how long ago that was ?
have we not learnt from researching proper cycles
pinning is infinitely better
 
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what is this stupid reason? yk how long ago that was ?
have we not learnt from researching proper cycles
pinning is infinitely better
I'll do test and B&C then. Only reason why I was leaning towards rad is bc it is 1000x more convenient bc it's just a pill. Pinning is going to be a pain in the ass to keep hidden. Brother got caught mid test cycle and lost most of his gains.
 
I'll do test and B&C then. Only reason why I was leaning towards rad is bc it is 1000x more convenient bc it's just a pill. Pinning is going to be a pain in the ass to keep hidden. Brother got caught mid test cycle and lost most of his gains.
just do it on your butt right like you'll see a good amount of gains doing it on your butt
 
just do it on your butt right like you'll see a good amount of gains doing it on your butt
nah I mean like hiding the needles and everything
 
Do you know the reason on why your growth plates closed so early tho?
early bloomer is my guess. genetic probably. my dad claims he grew until senior year and im taller than him so idk. maybe it was due to environmental factors but I have no idea
 
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Mirin post
 
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How much did you gain from msm with glucosamine also is it okay taking it during puberty
 
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what's the point of taking beta carotene and lycopene at the same time? i was under the impression they both gave different coloured undertones.
 
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Coloring
Currently am taking coloring supplements daily.

- Beta Carotene: 975mcg
- Lycopene: 30.9mg
- Astaxanthin: 12.7mg
- Vitamin E (just to help skin barrier): 84.4mg
Is that K shami U glow ? Why the beat carotene dosage is so low
 
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How much did you gain from msm with glucosamine also is it okay taking it during puberty
It’s fine during puberty imo although I’ve heard it can lower igf1 levels but I’m not 100% sure

I’m past tanner stage 5 at 15 (16 in March) so I think I’ll be fine

Btw it takes 3 months to see full results and I haven’t measured yet
 
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Is that K shami U glow ? Why the beat carotene dosage is so low
It is.

I was very skeptical at first but I am darker after one month of using it and I have a really good undertone

So much so that my mother noticed when me and my sisters arms were next to each other, she was shocked about how different our “natural:lul:” skin tones are.

$30 a month for coloring is a lil ridiculous imo tho mt1/2 will have infinitely better roi
 
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Background Info:
Height: 5'9.8" (growth plates are closed)
Weight: 149 pounds
Frame is mid. Normal clavicles, proportionate wingspan. 7in long hands (yes im a handcel :forcedsmile::feelswhy:)

Currently mmtn. Goal is hmtn. I don't think I'll ever reach high tier normie unless I get bimax and a canthoplexy. Hell, maybe even trimax:hnghn:


Height
- MSM with glucosamine, to keep ~0.5-1 inch of morning height.

I've heard it prevents your spine from completely decompressing. Dad's been using this for 6 months and he is definitely a little taller.

- Nike Air Max 1, to add ~1.34 inches
Just watched a YouTube video of big rob from celebheights where he measures his before and after.

- 1cm comfort inserts
Bought these a few months ago on TikTok shop and forgot about them but I just found them in my closet. Might as well put them to use.

- Fixing anterior pelvic tilt
It used to be a lot worse but I've been doing everything I can for the past month to correct it. It's almost there, but I think I can squeeze out maybe another 1/4 inch of height.

The airmaxes and inserts will put me at 5'11.5, giving me around a 1.5 inch boost. If msm with glucosamine works, it's safe to assume 6ft at least, 6'0.5 at best. As it is right now, I tell people I'm 5'8 and I watch them go crazy. After this protocol, I'll tell people im 5'9 jfl. When I take my shoes off I'll be around 5'10.5 and no one will suspect much from a 1.5 difference.

Frame

Plan A: 8 week cycle of Rad-140 with enclo during and after for PCT.

I've already been in the gym for about 7 months. When I started I was 130 pounds, around 12% bodyfat. I've gained 20ish pounds since then and sit around 13-15% bodyfat. The goal of this cycle would to push 170 pounds lean, with specific emphasis on the lats and delts for that v taper.

Plan B: Testosterone Enanthate
Haven't done much research on this yet. Older brother ran this when he was 17 and he responded very well. Although who knows maybe I'll respond terribly. His frame genetics are very different from mine, as he's a whole 4 inches taller than me.


Skin
Currently using 0.05% Tretinoin 3x a week.
I exfoliate my skin at night, apply tret, then use moisturizer. In the morning I use a sunscreen moisturizer, I think it is 75 spf. I did not have a "purge phase" with tret, and my skin has never been excessively red.


Coloring
Currently am taking coloring supplements daily.

- Beta Carotene: 975mcg
- Lycopene: 30.9mg
- Astaxanthin: 12.7mg
- Vitamin E (just to help skin barrier): 84.4mg

My eyebrows are naturally big, dark and well shaped. Lashes are naturally long, dark, and thick. I use a lash curler occasionally if they are too flat, which causes my neutral cantal tilt to look negative. It also helps with UEE.


I'm not gonna mention anything else bc im just mentioning the areas that need major improvement. Hair and style and all that other good stuff is taken care of. Life quality should only get better from here. Let me know what y'all think. Please excuse my crappy thread formatting. This is my 2nd account (deleted my first one) I swear im not grey:forcedsmile:

PS: another thing I forgot to mention -- pregab.
PSS: forgot to mention my tmj. it makes my face lopsided. been doing exercises and chin tucks to balance my mandible out and its been working so far. also been bone smashing my chin and mandible every night and my lower third has been getting better day by day. call it cope, but the swelling saves me.

Much love bhais,
OutRed
running rad without test?
 
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Currently using 0.05% Tretinoin 3x a week
Unideal use and supplement. Use .1% tazarotene, it’s the stronger topical retinoid and mogs tret in every way. And you should be doing it every night ideally, 3 times a week is unideal unless you’re just starting out which is normal but you should work your way to doing it everyday.
 
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Background Info:
Height: 5'9.8" (growth plates are closed)
Weight: 149 pounds
Frame is mid. Normal clavicles, proportionate wingspan. 7in long hands (yes im a handcel :forcedsmile::feelswhy:)

Currently mmtn. Goal is hmtn. I don't think I'll ever reach high tier normie unless I get bimax and a canthoplexy. Hell, maybe even trimax:hnghn:


Height
- MSM with glucosamine, to keep ~0.5-1 inch of morning height.

I've heard it prevents your spine from completely decompressing. Dad's been using this for 6 months and he is definitely a little taller.

- Nike Air Max 1, to add ~1.34 inches
Just watched a YouTube video of big rob from celebheights where he measures his before and after.

- 1cm comfort inserts
Bought these a few months ago on TikTok shop and forgot about them but I just found them in my closet. Might as well put them to use.

- Fixing anterior pelvic tilt
It used to be a lot worse but I've been doing everything I can for the past month to correct it. It's almost there, but I think I can squeeze out maybe another 1/4 inch of height.

The airmaxes and inserts will put me at 5'11.5, giving me around a 1.5 inch boost. If msm with glucosamine works, it's safe to assume 6ft at least, 6'0.5 at best. As it is right now, I tell people I'm 5'8 and I watch them go crazy. After this protocol, I'll tell people im 5'9 jfl. When I take my shoes off I'll be around 5'10.5 and no one will suspect much from a 1.5 difference.

Frame

Plan A: 8 week cycle of Rad-140 with enclo during and after for PCT.

I've already been in the gym for about 7 months. When I started I was 130 pounds, around 12% bodyfat. I've gained 20ish pounds since then and sit around 13-15% bodyfat. The goal of this cycle would to push 170 pounds lean, with specific emphasis on the lats and delts for that v taper.

Plan B: Testosterone Enanthate
Haven't done much research on this yet. Older brother ran this when he was 17 and he responded very well. Although who knows maybe I'll respond terribly. His frame genetics are very different from mine, as he's a whole 4 inches taller than me.


Skin
Currently using 0.05% Tretinoin 3x a week.
I exfoliate my skin at night, apply tret, then use moisturizer. In the morning I use a sunscreen moisturizer, I think it is 75 spf. I did not have a "purge phase" with tret, and my skin has never been excessively red.


Coloring
Currently am taking coloring supplements daily.

- Beta Carotene: 975mcg
- Lycopene: 30.9mg
- Astaxanthin: 12.7mg
- Vitamin E (just to help skin barrier): 84.4mg

My eyebrows are naturally big, dark and well shaped. Lashes are naturally long, dark, and thick. I use a lash curler occasionally if they are too flat, which causes my neutral cantal tilt to look negative. It also helps with UEE.


I'm not gonna mention anything else bc im just mentioning the areas that need major improvement. Hair and style and all that other good stuff is taken care of. Life quality should only get better from here. Let me know what y'all think. Please excuse my crappy thread formatting. This is my 2nd account (deleted my first one) I swear im not grey:forcedsmile:

PS: another thing I forgot to mention -- pregab.
PSS: forgot to mention my tmj. it makes my face lopsided. been doing exercises and chin tucks to balance my mandible out and its been working so far. also been bone smashing my chin and mandible every night and my lower third has been getting better day by day. call it cope, but the swelling saves me.

Much love bhais,
OutRed
good start
 
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Unideal use and supplement. Use .1% tazarotene, it’s the stronger topical retinoid and mogs tret in every way. And you should be doing it every night ideally, 3 times a week is unideal unless you’re just starting out which is normal but you should work your way to doing it everyday.
I was just starting tret when I wrote this thread. I now do it every night unless my skin is irritated. I’ve had amazing results.

I had no idea that the ROI of fixing health indicators was this big. Multiple people have noticed my acne clear up and I’ve noticed I get more stares now and also get better treatment from people in general. I had no idea that clear skin could do this. My skin isn’t 100% perfect but it’s getting there

I have some tazarotene that my brother used to use but it’s like 2 years old. Do you think it’s fine to use?
 
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running rad without test?
Only reason why I’d choose oral stuff over pinning is bc it’s 1000x more convenient.

My parents are very nosy and it would be extremely hard to hide the needles and vials and I don’t have a way to keep the hcg refrigerated.

My brother also got caught running test in the past so my parents know what to look for

Rad is a lot easier to hide since it’s just pills

When I move out I’d do test
 
Only reason why I’d choose oral stuff over pinning is bc it’s 1000x more convenient.

My parents are very nosy and it would be extremely hard to hide the needles and vials and I don’t have a way to keep the hcg refrigerated.

My brother also got caught running test in the past so my parents know what to look for

Rad is a lot easier to hide since it’s just pills

When I move out I’d do test
right but it would supress your test quite a lot, talking 80% supression ish, you planning to do PCT or?
 
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How did you decide on your current coloring supplement stack? How do you get access to such specific supplement/doses?
 
Height
- MSM with glucosamine, to keep ~0.5-1 inch of morning height.

I've heard it prevents your spine from completely decompressing. Dad's been using this for 6 months and he is definitely a little taller
no collagen / vitamin C to pair with those?
 
How did you decide on your current coloring supplement stack? How do you get access to such specific supplement/doses?
Bought some uglow supplement made by kshami

It didn’t do too much for me but my undertone did change. It wasn’t noticable unless I was comparing my skin to someone else.

I am already kinda naturally darker tho

I stopped after a month bc ROI wasn’t that good for me, it costs $30 so im putting that somewhere else
 
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Seems good but just skip the rad
Either take test or not
Neither the less mirin
 
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