yeah, I've already purchased reta and DNP so tren is kinda pointless to me at the moment. Also "if the goal is muscle" when all 3 goals are right at the top of the thread
also the main reason im taking turinabol is to be a better replacement for proviron, and 19nor doesn't vasodilate like turinabol does and is a very weak binder to SHBGs, reducing available test. Mast could actually be a decent choice but again doesn't have the secondary effects that turinabol has that I absolutely need
@AtrophicPyra what do u recommend as an alternative that I can take long term? My indiamart seller didnt have proviron 
ah yep, couldn't see the goals for some reason. Just assumed masculinization + height growth, as is the most common across these types of postsyeah, I've already purchased reta and DNP so tren is kinda pointless to me at the moment. Also "if the goal is muscle" when all 3 goals are right at the top of the thread
Also turinabol does the same thing as masteron and 19nor, with additional effects that are good for my purposes. its the one part of the stack i feel the best and most high iq taking ngl
anavar, its used in the medical world and can be bought from indiamart, pharma grade anavarOk nevermind I definitely CANNOT take turinabol for that long
fuck now I have wayyy too much turinabol FAHH
not getting tested at all lol im a junior rower so I can blast whatever the fuck i want
ok i looked at dosage and realized I actually have the perfect amount for 2 8 week cycles at 20-30mg a day with about 3 months in between, which works out awesome.Wish I needed less time in between each cycle but whatever whatre u gonna do.Ion rly wanna send more money to random pajeets tryna scam me so ima just use the tbol I have
W stack brahRATE THE STACK NIGGERSGoals for this cycle:
1. Increase Sexual Dimorphism
(Look more manly / grow my features more.)
2. Increase Lean Muscle Mass
(Water)
3. Increase Athletic Performance
(I am a rower, the sport is almost completely dependent on physical performance so doing good is literally just a matter of how jacked and fit you are, plus some technique).
Cycle:
400mg Testosterone Enanthate, pinning approx. 55mg/day subcutaneously for 40 weeks. Using small insulin needles because I'm pinning so often, daily dosage is pretty small depending on vial strength.
I am taking the month of August for the ancillaries and test itself to arrive, as well as making any last-minute preparations and purchases. My cycle will start on August 30th and will end 40 weeks from that time, on May 30th. The long exposure and high dose is to increase dimo long term, and performance as much as possible for my sport. I have also purchased extra ancillaries from Indiamart, so if I want to extend the cycle by another month, I have the option to do so. NOW lets get into the ancillaries
Ancillaries:
25mg Exemestan, dosed based on symptoms.
I don't want to nuke my e2, so I will most likely cut the pill in half and end up taking 3 or so doses of 12.5mg every week to keep my e2 in check. It should also be noted that im at 25%bf right now and cutting very quickly on reta, so my aromatization rate may be higher than that of a normal person's. Bottom line, I don't have a set dosage schedule for the ai and will probably end up dosing based on the symptoms I experience from day to day.
40mg Telmisartan Per Day
This is just to keep my heart healthy and my blood pressure in check during the cycle. I didn't get any bloods done because of family issues and access to health insurance etc cause im in amerifat's shit health industry, and it would be expensive as fuck with no insurance. Im just going based on familial health trends and past advice from doctors. it should be noted though that because of rowing my V02 max and RHR are very solid (sitting at low 60's to high 50's during training months).
5mg Finasteride Per Day
Obviously don't wanna lose any hair. kinda Water ngl
10mg Turinabol / CDHT Per Day
this one's probably the most high iq one ngl, as it serves many purposes to this stack.
1. Binds to Androgen receptors, causing extreme bone and muscle growth. With this I should experience growth in clavicles/bidelt and also certain facial androgen receptors.
2. Binds to Sex Hormone Binding Globulin, causing more available test to also go to my muscle and bone receptors. SHBG's are the ultimate cuck proteins that stop test from getting to your androgen receptors and causing growth, and this along with mesterolone is one of the most effective ways of raping it.
3. Massively increases Nitrogen (N) retention. This is by far the most high IQ part of taking turinabol, as increased N leads to strong vasodilation via conversion to nitrous oxide. yes NOS literally makes your body run better like fast and furious
Post-cycle therapy is just gonna be some Tamoxifen, I don't really need to think about the protocol or dosage or sourcing or anything basically cause its literally a year away jfl.
DON'T FORGET TO REP IF U ENJOYED NIGGAS
foidslayer5k signing out
I would rather have it have a high binding affinity tho cause that increases available test for androgen receptors. I'm ok to lose out on muscle growth if my dimo increases
thanks bro, running tbol for a bit too
it's overhated? Never even heard of anyone on it before
yeah it probably is worse than Dbol but has much less side effects lol, plus extra benefits. I'm not looking for pure muscle growth, rather some specific sides that will help me like vasodilation
it's also diabolically cheap, i bought 2 cycles worth for like 100 bucks off indiamart
Where does bro find the money for this shit at 17RATE THE STACK NIGGERSGoals for this cycle:
1. Increase Sexual Dimorphism
(Look more manly / grow my features more.)
2. Increase Lean Muscle Mass
(Water)
3. Increase Athletic Performance
(I am a rower, the sport is almost completely dependent on physical performance so doing good is literally just a matter of how jacked and fit you are, plus some technique).
Cycle:
400mg Testosterone Enanthate, pinning approx. 55mg/day subcutaneously for 40 weeks. Using small insulin needles because I'm pinning so often, daily dosage is pretty small depending on vial strength.
I am taking the month of August for the ancillaries and test itself to arrive, as well as making any last-minute preparations and purchases. My cycle will start on August 30th and will end 40 weeks from that time, on May 30th. The long exposure and high dose is to increase dimo long term, and performance as much as possible for my sport. I have also purchased extra ancillaries from Indiamart, so if I want to extend the cycle by another month, I have the option to do so. NOW lets get into the ancillaries
Ancillaries:
25mg Exemestan, dosed based on symptoms.
I don't want to nuke my e2, so I will most likely cut the pill in half and end up taking 3 or so doses of 12.5mg every week to keep my e2 in check. It should also be noted that im at 25%bf right now and cutting very quickly on reta, so my aromatization rate may be higher than that of a normal person's. Bottom line, I don't have a set dosage schedule for the ai and will probably end up dosing based on the symptoms I experience from day to day.
40mg Telmisartan Per Day
This is just to keep my heart healthy and my blood pressure in check during the cycle. I didn't get any bloods done because of family issues and access to health insurance etc cause im in amerifat's shit health industry, and it would be expensive as fuck with no insurance. Im just going based on familial health trends and past advice from doctors. it should be noted though that because of rowing my V02 max and RHR are very solid (sitting at low 60's to high 50's during training months).
5mg Finasteride Per Day
Obviously don't wanna lose any hair. kinda Water ngl
10mg Turinabol / CDHT Per Day
this one's probably the most high iq one ngl, as it serves many purposes to this stack.
1. Binds to Androgen receptors, causing extreme bone and muscle growth. With this I should experience growth in clavicles/bidelt and also certain facial androgen receptors.
2. Binds to Sex Hormone Binding Globulin, causing more available test to also go to my muscle and bone receptors. SHBG's are the ultimate cuck proteins that stop test from getting to your androgen receptors and causing growth, and this along with mesterolone is one of the most effective ways of raping it.
3. Massively increases Nitrogen (N) retention. This is by far the most high IQ part of taking turinabol, as increased N leads to strong vasodilation via conversion to nitrous oxide. yes NOS literally makes your body run better like fast and furious
Post-cycle therapy is just gonna be some Tamoxifen, I don't really need to think about the protocol or dosage or sourcing or anything basically cause its literally a year away jfl.
DON'T FORGET TO REP IF U ENJOYED NIGGAS
foidslayer5k signing out
got a job lol, i'm in the US. Saved up nearly 4k before tax, gonna spend it all on clothes and drugs
It wasn't even that expensive ngl, I already bought reta, it was approx. 250 for the ancillaries and stack from indiamart and about 750 for the test from china, plus I spent another 100 on cagri and DNP from the same source. Goated niggas btw, their warehouse is mad close to where I live so delivery's quick too
no, SHBG is manufactured mostly by the liver. HNF4α inhibition by trenbolone is estimated to have a 70-90% shutdown of SHBG secretion in the liver. I get where you're coming from, but DHT derivs (mast, etc) or even straight DHT E outperform testosterone for facial masculinization, and, due to the massive impact tren has on IGF-1 levels, so too does trenbolone. I get not running it due to the side effect mitigation- needs to be extensive- but it is far superior at achieving periosteal apposition
Sick, blast thennot getting tested at all lol im a junior rower so I can blast whatever the fuck i want
5mg Finasteride Per Day LOLOLOLOLRATE THE STACK NIGGERSGoals for this cycle:
1. Increase Sexual Dimorphism
(Look more manly / grow my features more.)
2. Increase Lean Muscle Mass
(Water)
3. Increase Athletic Performance
(I am a rower, the sport is almost completely dependent on physical performance so doing good is literally just a matter of how jacked and fit you are, plus some technique).
Cycle:
400mg Testosterone Enanthate, pinning approx. 55mg/day subcutaneously for 40 weeks. Using small insulin needles because I'm pinning so often, daily dosage is pretty small depending on vial strength.
I am taking the month of August for the ancillaries and test itself to arrive, as well as making any last-minute preparations and purchases. My cycle will start on August 30th and will end 40 weeks from that time, on May 30th. The long exposure and high dose is to increase dimo long term, and performance as much as possible for my sport. I have also purchased extra ancillaries from Indiamart, so if I want to extend the cycle by another month, I have the option to do so. NOW lets get into the ancillaries
Ancillaries:
25mg Exemestan, dosed based on symptoms.
I don't want to nuke my e2, so I will most likely cut the pill in half and end up taking 3 or so doses of 12.5mg every week to keep my e2 in check. It should also be noted that im at 25%bf right now and cutting very quickly on reta, so my aromatization rate may be higher than that of a normal person's. Bottom line, I don't have a set dosage schedule for the ai and will probably end up dosing based on the symptoms I experience from day to day.
40mg Telmisartan Per Day
This is just to keep my heart healthy and my blood pressure in check during the cycle. I didn't get any bloods done because of family issues and access to health insurance etc cause im in amerifat's shit health industry, and it would be expensive as fuck with no insurance. Im just going based on familial health trends and past advice from doctors. it should be noted though that because of rowing my V02 max and RHR are very solid (sitting at low 60's to high 50's during training months).
5mg Finasteride Per Day
Obviously don't wanna lose any hair. kinda Water ngl
10mg Turinabol / CDHT Per Day
this one's probably the most high iq one ngl, as it serves many purposes to this stack.
1. Binds to Androgen receptors, causing extreme bone and muscle growth. With this I should experience growth in clavicles/bidelt and also certain facial androgen receptors.
2. Binds to Sex Hormone Binding Globulin, causing more available test to also go to my muscle and bone receptors. SHBG's are the ultimate cuck proteins that stop test from getting to your androgen receptors and causing growth, and this along with mesterolone is one of the most effective ways of raping it.
3. Massively increases Nitrogen (N) retention. This is by far the most high IQ part of taking turinabol, as increased N leads to strong vasodilation via conversion to nitrous oxide. yes NOS literally makes your body run better like fast and furious
Post-cycle therapy is just gonna be some Tamoxifen, I don't really need to think about the protocol or dosage or sourcing or anything basically cause its literally a year away jfl.
DON'T FORGET TO REP IF U ENJOYED NIGGAS
foidslayer5k signing out
couldn't find dut or I woulda bought it
oh lol i dnr'd the part about the liver, very interesting info. I was going off that one facial androgen blueprint thread, it didn't even mention tren. But yeah it's expensive as fuck and sides are difficult to manage, especially for 9 months like i'll be using test for
Definitely, could be worth looking into lower dose masteron for the masculinization and neurosteroid benefits alone, plus (besides hair) when taken at low doses it's obviously much safer than tren
yeah ngl i'm already injecting myself with a TON of shit and I kinda want to keep it at a minimum
Pretty happy with the stack as is but if I ever choose to blast again i'll defo think about it. Moneys also tight rn lol I just paid for a shit ton of stuff from amazon like liver support to help with the tbol cycle
cut the pill in 1/4ths take daily then titrate up, or find dut or ur gonna face probably all the sides of fin
what're the sides? tf
neurosteroid depletion is pretty big
hm... thanks for letting me know. I'll be sure to start really low
neurosteroid depletion, ed, libido drop
