Rate Stack for Bones and Height

[LLcel]

*Info*

19.1 5,10 (morning height)

Came up with this stack from the past 3-4 days of insight from various sources (no prior knowledge or interest).

90% certain growth plates are fused (other than my spine which I plan on targeting) since I have remained at the same height since 16.

Both parents are around 5,7 - 5,8 so I can only assume I have somewhat surpassed genetic cap since I was properly nourished and was active during puberty (mainly swimming but also soccer and basketball at a younger age).

I plan on only doing a few cycles before evaluating if its worth continuing.

Feel free to comment on any changes you believe I can make to better synergize the stack.

Keep in mind this is my first time using peps much less creating a stack that I have no proper judgment on from inadequate research.

I have no predetermined expectations with using this stack I am rather looking at it from an experimental standpoint in which it might A) Do nothing or B) Provide minimal - decent positive feedback.

Lastly dosages will not be listed as it is still a work in progress.

*Stack*

Peptides
CJC-1295 No DAC (Mod GRF (1-29))
Ipamorelin
DSIP Blend Spray (GABA + Melatonin + DSIP)
Follistatin 344 (Skeptical of purity/potency since limited sources and generally hard to come by pure grade).

Peptides I will consider incorporating later if need be
BPC-157 & TB-500

Minerals and Vitamins
Lactoferrin
MSM
Huperzine A
Nitric Oxide Blend (L-arginine + L-Citrulline)
Slin pills (Lipoic Acid + Piperine + Berberine)
K2 + D3
Zinc
Magnesium
Boron

Minerals/Vitamins I may add later
KSM-66 Ashwagandha
Shilajit
Creatine
Fish oil
Bee pollen
Ginger
Beta carotene
Choccy milk

*Exercise*

HIIT: 2-4x a week (Gym)
Stretching/Decompressing: daily
Posturemaxxing: daily (since im cooked from siege)
Massai jumps for microfractures (cope)
Sprinting intervals (HGH release theory)

*Diet*

Wont go into too much detail but will be on a Protein Surplus diet as it is necessary to insure proper translation of the stimulated HGH to IGF-1 otherwise your body will excrete it and it will end up a waste.

*Conclusion*

As stated prior this is all a result of minimal research and an urge to act before my fate is permanently sealed, that being said I am open to feedback as it helps me further understand what I stand to gain/lose. I feel as though my height is a middle ground both literally and in the sense that I am not totally dissatisfied nor contempt with it. Furthermore I am fully aware that this stack is no where near what some of you guys run/recommend running, I don't have the money or interest in blasting pharma straight to the gills, thereby causing self conflicting views on if this stack is even significant enough (even at higher dosages and consistent cycles) to have real positive effects. Nonetheless let me know what you guys think.

 

[20/04/2008]

Theres no need to get all defensive

First i asked why even have the 300g of protien

Secondly, it’s true that protien burns 20-30% more calories being digested than other macros, how big was the surplus of protien?

Also nothing wrong with iffym

Yes it is
People overestimates micros and food profile
Fats are not all the same
Protein isn’t all the same

Lets say we have 2 guys having normal diet their maintenance is like 2000 cals (supposedly)
A guy who eat a healthy diet could eat 2500 cal to achive maintenance
While te guy who eat like shit would eat 1500 cal to achieve maintenance

 

[ShawarmaFilth]

Yes it is
People overestimates micros and food profile
Fats are not all the same
Protein isn’t all the same

That doesn’t explain why you said 300g of protien

A guy who eat a healthy diet could eat 2500 cal to achive maintenance
While te guy who eat like shit would eat 1500 cal to achieve maintenance

Why?

 

[20/04/2008]

That doesn’t explain why you said 300g of protien


Why?

More is better
The buggest lie in the fitness industry is you only need 1g/lb of bw

Their is 100 reason bro
Fats aren’t all the same like i explained in a previous response
That non processed pufa fats are more anabolic and cause better body recomposition changes then any other type of fat even in a caloric surplus

Amino Acide profile isn’t all the same some amino acides has slight liposis effect (not that much but might help you gain like 5% + calories and add to that the thermic effect some amino acids like leucine argine … are mandatory for shit like igf-1 Mtor the lore you take the better a lot of guys here talk about shit like sugar increase igf-1 yeah it does but protein doed that 5x better

Dome amino acids have unique anabolic effects like Glycine Taurine
And then we have shit like Cartinine that make you more sensitive to testosterone a guy on Carnitine + 150 test would be like running 200 test alone

And micro nutrients if your depleted of them even if your on roids your gonna shrink your muscles and increase you fat storage
You literraly can’t build muscle even if you eated 5000 calories and 500 g of protein if your food had 0 vitamin in it

For example do you know how they discovered vitamin it was because the japanese noticed that brown rice made chicken a lot bigger then white rice (when calories were equated) why is that cause brown rice is more nutrient dense

And also some micro nutrition (like did you know phosphorus act on thyroid receptors thus making you more sensitive to T3 that why bodybuilders get thinner skin when eating shit ton of fish i remember flex wheeler talking about it and everyone laughed at his ass kevin levrone also did the same thing in prep their are some instances the bros are actually right and are way ahead of their time

@Clavicular
@halloweed
@Jonas2k7
@LLsurgeryEnthusiast
@org3cel.RR

 

[ShawarmaFilth]

More is better
The buggest lie in the fitness industry is you only need 1g/lb of bw

Their is 100 reason bro
Fats aren’t all the same like i explained in a previous response
That non processed pufa fats are more anabolic and cause better body recomposition changes then any other type of fat even in a caloric surplus

Amino Acide profile isn’t all the same some amino acides has slight liposis effect (not that much but might help you gain like 5% + calories and add to that the thermic effect some amino acids like leucine argine … are mandatory for shit like igf-1 Mtor the lore you take the better a lot of guys here talk about shit like sugar increase igf-1 yeah it does but protein doed that 5x better

Dome amino acids have unique anabolic effects like Glycine Taurine
And then we have shit like Cartinine that make you more sensitive to testosterone a guy on Carnitine + 150 test would be like running 200 test alone

And micro nutrients if your depleted of them even if your on roids your gonna shrink your muscles and increase you fat storage
You literraly can’t build muscle even if you eated 5000 calories and 500 g of protein if your food had 0 vitamin in it

For example do you know how they discovered vitamin it was because the japanese noticed that brown rice made chicken a lot bigger then white rice (when calories were equated) why is that cause brown rice is more nutrient dense

And also some micro nutrition (like did you know phosphorus act on thyroid receptors thus making you more sensitive to T3 that why bodybuilders get thinner skin when eating shit ton of fish i remember flex wheeler talking about it and everyone laughed at his ass kevin levrone also did the same thing in prep their are some instances the bros are actually right and are way ahead of their time

@Clavicular
@halloweed
@Jonas2k7
@LLsurgeryEnthusiast
@org3cel.RR

I agree it’s not smart to be nutrient deficient

I’m trying to say if you eat more calories than you burn you will gain fat

 

[copercel123]

*Info*

19.1 5,10 (morning height)

Came up with this stack from the past 3-4 days of insight from various sources (no prior knowledge or interest).

90% certain growth plates are fused (other than my spine which I plan on targeting) since I have remained at the same height since 16.

Both parents are around 5,7 - 5,8 so I can only assume I have somewhat surpassed genetic cap since I was properly nourished and was active during puberty (mainly swimming but also soccer and basketball at a younger age).

I plan on only doing a few cycles before evaluating if its worth continuing.

Feel free to comment on any changes you believe I can make to better synergize the stack.

Keep in mind this is my first time using peps much less creating a stack that I have no proper judgment on from inadequate research.

I have no predetermined expectations with using this stack I am rather looking at it from an experimental standpoint in which it might A) Do nothing or B) Provide minimal - decent positive feedback.

Lastly dosages will not be listed as it is still a work in progress.

*Stack*

Peptides
CJC-1295 No DAC (Mod GRF (1-29))
Ipamorelin
DSIP Blend Spray (GABA + Melatonin + DSIP)
Follistatin 344 (Skeptical of purity/potency since limited sources and generally hard to come by pure grade).

Peptides I will consider incorporating later if need be
BPC-157 & TB-500

Minerals and Vitamins
Lactoferrin
MSM
Huperzine A
Nitric Oxide Blend (L-arginine + L-Citrulline)
Slin pills (Lipoic Acid + Piperine + Berberine)
K2 + D3
Zinc
Magnesium
Boron

Minerals/Vitamins I may add later
KSM-66 Ashwagandha
Shilajit
Creatine
Fish oil
Bee pollen
Ginger
Beta carotene
Choccy milk

*Exercise*

HIIT: 2-4x a week (Gym)
Stretching/Decompressing: daily
Posturemaxxing: daily (since im cooked from siege)
Massai jumps for microfractures (cope)
Sprinting intervals (HGH release theory)

*Diet*

Wont go into too much detail but will be on a Protein Surplus diet as it is necessary to insure proper translation of the stimulated HGH to IGF-1 otherwise your body will excrete it and it will end up a waste.

*Conclusion*

As stated prior this is all a result of minimal research and an urge to act before my fate is permanently sealed, that being said I am open to feedback as it helps me further understand what I stand to gain/lose. I feel as though my height is a middle ground both literally and in the sense that I am not totally dissatisfied nor contempt with it. Furthermore I am fully aware that this stack is no where near what some of you guys run/recommend running, I don't have the money or interest in blasting pharma straight to the gills, thereby causing self conflicting views on if this stack is even significant enough (even at higher dosages and consistent cycles) to have real positive effects. Nonetheless let me know what you guys think.

Gg

 

[20/04/2008]

I agree it’s not smart to be nutrient deficient

I’m trying to say if you eat more calories than you burn you will gain fat

It isn’t all calories
Their is so many factors that come into play bro

 

[ShawarmaFilth]

F

It isn’t all calories
Their is so many factors that come into play bro

Factors like what