rate the protocol/stack 15yrs old

[AtrophicPyra]

6month cycle
400mg test e 2x a week
8-10 ius of hgh based off funding
50mg tren built up to 100mg if tolerable
arimidix ai dose is varied from symptoms no blood work
letrozole stop everything but hcg and ai 14 days before taking then stop taking ai and hcg a day before taking pct (13th day)
hcg 1000iu a week
insulin dosing through gatekept method

ancilarries
cabergoline to inhibit prolactin from tren
NAC N-acetylcysteine for liver health
RU for hairloss
accuatane for acne
collagen for skin elasticity
ghkcu POSSIBLY aswel
telmi for bp or Losartan
l carnitine
metformin for mitochondrial health and to prevent aging
tretinoin for collagen turnover to furthermore prevent aging
etc.
masseter chew piece to promote chrondrocyte proliferation to bone connected to masseter muscle(i have proof this works)
500 calorie surplus
neck curls
aqualyx 3 sesh

hgh taken during the evening after school - when growth plate circadian ryhym is alligned
androgens taken in the moring - when androgen receptor circadian ryhym is alligned
ancilarries taken daily in the morning - i prefer taking it in the morning except the l carnatine ill be taking that with my hgh pin

lmk thoughts

 

[sub3forfemcels]

 

[roidsfaper]

can u show me the results?

 

[fajitapocketpxsyy]

Nice dud

 

[Fleisch]

Add more stuff for heightmaxxingf like infigratinib and lower the test

 

[India lover 52]

if your doing multiple cycles why are you doing a pct between each one? every time you pct it becomes harder to pct in the future and your hpta takes damage, if you don't want to be on trt for life its better to bnc until your ready to come off forever


caber is also dysphoric and not necessary at 100mg of tren and i recommend tren E for sleep and more stable blood levels

 

[AtrophicPyra]

Add more stuff for heightmaxxingf like infigratinib and lower the test

fgfr3 inhibitors are too dangerous to take during growth and too out of budget

 

[iwannasleeponurlap]

6month cycle
400mg test e 2x a week
8-10 ius of hgh based off funding
50mg tren built up to 100mg if tolerable
arimidix ai dose is varied from symptoms no blood work
letrozole stop everything but hcg and ai 14 days before taking then stop taking ai and hcg a day before taking pct (13th day)
hcg 1000iu a week
insulin dosing through gatekept method

ancilarries
cabergoline to inhibit prolactin from tren
NAC N-acetylcysteine for liver health
RU for hairloss
accuatane for acne
collagen for skin elasticity
ghkcu POSSIBLY aswel
telmi for bp or Losartan
l carnitine
metformin for mitochondrial health and to prevent aging
tretinoin for collagen turnover to furthermore prevent aging
etc.
masseter chew piece to promote chrondrocyte proliferation to bone connected to masseter muscle(i have proof this works)
500 calorie surplus
neck curls
aqualyx 3 sesh

hgh taken during the evening after school - when growth plate circadian ryhym is alligned
androgens taken in the moring - when androgen receptor circadian ryhym is alligned
ancilarries taken daily in the morning - i prefer taking it in the morning except the l carnatine ill be taking that with my hgh pin

lmk thoughts

dont you have inward gonions why are you doing masseter training
tren at 15 seems a little dangerous mane

 

[iwannasleeponurlap]

6month cycle
400mg test e 2x a week
8-10 ius of hgh based off funding
50mg tren built up to 100mg if tolerable
arimidix ai dose is varied from symptoms no blood work
letrozole stop everything but hcg and ai 14 days before taking then stop taking ai and hcg a day before taking pct (13th day)
hcg 1000iu a week
insulin dosing through gatekept method

ancilarries
cabergoline to inhibit prolactin from tren
NAC N-acetylcysteine for liver health
RU for hairloss
accuatane for acne
collagen for skin elasticity
ghkcu POSSIBLY aswel
telmi for bp or Losartan
l carnitine
metformin for mitochondrial health and to prevent aging
tretinoin for collagen turnover to furthermore prevent aging
etc.
masseter chew piece to promote chrondrocyte proliferation to bone connected to masseter muscle(i have proof this works)
500 calorie surplus
neck curls
aqualyx 3 sesh

hgh taken during the evening after school - when growth plate circadian ryhym is alligned
androgens taken in the moring - when androgen receptor circadian ryhym is alligned
ancilarries taken daily in the morning - i prefer taking it in the morning except the l carnatine ill be taking that with my hgh pin

lmk thoughts

why only 500 calorie surplus

 

[Fleisch]

fgfr3 inhibitors are too dangerous to take during growth and too out of budget

Infri is pretty safe, the safest one to its rewards + Its pretty cheap aswell. Its like 210 usd /gram. GH is like 0.2-0.3 usd / IU
U take bout 10mg infri daily so its like 2,1 usd a day

 

[AtrophicPyra]

if your doing multiple cycles why are you doing a pct between each one? every time you pct it becomes harder to pct in the future and your hpta takes damage, if you don't want to be on trt for life its better to bnc until your ready to come off forever


caber is also dysphoric and not necessary at 100mg of tren and i recommend tren E for sleep and more stable blood levels

okay ill do the tren e but the caber is better safe than sorry ngl i dont want to have tits

well im planning to return to baseline and stop after blasting 400mg to 700mg of test e for 2 cycle so its not that debilitating. u dont lose anything from adding hcg and pct anyway

 

[AtrophicPyra]

Infri is pretty safe, the safest one to its rewards + Its pretty cheap aswell. Its like 210 usd /gram. GH is like 0.2-0.3 usd / IU
U take bout 10mg infri daily so its like 2,1 usd a day

infrigatinib is NOT safe, it inhibits fgfr 1 2 4 which are crucial for organ development guts, brain, if u dont think so explain how its safe and not gonna fuck me up

 

[AtrophicPyra]

why only 500 calorie surplus

diminishing returns after 500, sometimes i do 1,000 but it doesnt rlly matter if u wanna gain weight u can do 1,000 and even 2,000 surplus if u want

 

[AtrophicPyra]

dont you have inward gonions why are you doing masseter training
tren at 15 seems a little dangerous mane

tissue getting stressed means bone getting stressed ill do anything for an increased chrondrocyte proliferation even if it means looking like shit i can just stop after i see genuine results in 5 years anwyay

 

[fraudster#1]

lmk thoughts

lower test and up tren

 

[AtrophicPyra]

lower test and up tren

im microdosing tren bec i feel like roi is already risky enough

 

[tokyo01010]

6month cycle
400mg test e 2x a week
8-10 ius of hgh based off funding
50mg tren built up to 100mg if tolerable
arimidix ai dose is varied from symptoms no blood work
letrozole stop everything but hcg and ai 14 days before taking then stop taking ai and hcg a day before taking pct (13th day)
hcg 1000iu a week
insulin dosing through gatekept method

ancilarries
cabergoline to inhibit prolactin from tren
NAC N-acetylcysteine for liver health
RU for hairloss
accuatane for acne
collagen for skin elasticity
ghkcu POSSIBLY aswel
telmi for bp or Losartan
l carnitine
metformin for mitochondrial health and to prevent aging
tretinoin for collagen turnover to furthermore prevent aging
etc.
masseter chew piece to promote chrondrocyte proliferation to bone connected to masseter muscle(i have proof this works)
500 calorie surplus
neck curls
aqualyx 3 sesh

hgh taken during the evening after school - when growth plate circadian ryhym is alligned
androgens taken in the moring - when androgen receptor circadian ryhym is alligned
ancilarries taken daily in the morning - i prefer taking it in the morning except the l carnatine ill be taking that with my hgh pin

lmk thoughts

low dose ghk if your on accutane since collagen is being decreased overall from
accutane

 

[Fleisch]

infrigatinib is NOT safe, it inhibits fgfr 1 2 4 which are crucial for organ development guts, brain, if u dont think so explain how its safe and not gonna fuck me up

Who told you this Its selective son, it doesnt broadly inhibits fgfr 1/2/4. its a selective FGFR1-3 inhibitor

'' It promotes proportional skeletal growth by targeting overactive FGFR3, without shutting down normal FGFR signaling in brain/organs at these low/selective doses.''

This was in a study from kids at age 3 years old who took this for multiple years ^^ as conclusion

Unless u MEGA dose it your gonna be fine, its very selective son

 

[AtrophicPyra]

Who told you this Its selective son, it doesnt broadly inhibits fgfr 1/2/4. its a selective FGFR1-3 inhibitor

i had another fgfr in mind nvm abt it inhibiting fgfr4, but anyway it inhibits 1,2,3 enough to the point where the test subjects needed eye exams every 21 days to prevent retinopathy, also the dairreha side affects r horrible, ur skin and hair is turned to shit, only one that works is tyra-300 but its impossible to source for cheap its 2k btw

 

[AtrophicPyra]

low dose ghk if your on accutane since collagen is being decreased overall from
accutane

im taking tretinoin to counteract this, i might just remove ghk cu entirely what do u think

 

[AtrophicPyra]

Who told you this Its selective son, it doesnt broadly inhibits fgfr 1/2/4. its a selective FGFR1-3 inhibitor

'' It promotes proportional skeletal growth by targeting overactive FGFR3, without shutting down normal FGFR signaling in brain/organs at these low/selective doses.''

This was in a study from kids at age 3 years old who took this for multiple years ^^ as conclusion

Unless u MEGA dose it your gonna be fine, its very selective son

lol u didnt see the ratio of how much they inhibit each fgfr those r just words once you see the enzyme inhibition ratio of fgfr1-3 u realize its gonna destroy your body

 

[tokyo01010]

im taking tretinoin to counteract this, i might just remove ghk cu entirely what do u think

dont do tret with isotret ur gonns fuck ur skin

 

[Fleisch]

i had another fgfr in mind nvm abt it inhibiting fgfr4, but anyway it inhibits 1,2,3 enough to the point where the test subjects needed eye exams every 21 days to prevent retinopathy, also the dairreha side affects r horrible, ur skin and hair is turned to shit, only one that works is tyra-300 but its impossible to source for cheap its 2k btw

What studies are you refering to, are you aware that im talking about infigratinib, not any other thing. Either somebody is lying to you and giving wrong information, but all studies lead the the same ~ish results. No significant adverse effects on eyes, retinal, organ or brain development defects. And the dosages and ages in these studies varied a lot.

 

[Fleisch]

dont do tret with isotret ur gonns fuck ur skin

Can we kick this guy of the forum?

 

[AtrophicPyra]

dont do tret with isotret ur gonns fuck ur skin

explain, wtf r u on abt

 

[AtrophicPyra]

What studies are you refering to, are you aware that im talking about infigratinib, not any other thing. Either somebody is lying to you and giving wrong information, but all studies lead the the same ~ish results. No significant adverse effects on eyes, retinal, organ or brain development defects. And the dosages and ages in these studies varied a lot.

high phosphate levels and diarrehia r the only ones u can mitigate from infig, other than that messing with ur eyes r very risky bec once u see the symptoms of blurred vision its already over so you NEED to go to the eye docotor every 21 days if ur taking it.

do u have studies showing people who took it and are fine after if u do i may consider taking it however most studies i see are just people getting raped by infig and other fgfr3 inhibitors

(the study i was referring to was in pubmed i forgot the pubmed id)

 

[India lover 52]

okay ill do the tren e but the caber is better safe than sorry ngl i dont want to have tits

well im planning to return to baseline and stop after blasting 400mg to 700mg of test e for 2 cycle so its not that debilitating. u dont lose anything from adding hcg and pct anyway

p5p is more than enough and tren is the lightest 19nor on prolactin, its more similar to a dht derivative than nandrolone in the way it acts in your brain and caber mimics dopamine in the brain which tren already increases sensitivity to so your dopamine is going to crash heavily when you get off and caber causes dysphoria in some people even while taking it

u don't loose much from pcting with hcg ur right but every time you pct your chances of successfully pcting in the future decrease so i would be 100% sure your done with roids before u do so

 

[India lover 52]

explain, wtf r u on abt

ur double raping your skin barrier your gonna look like you survived a fire

 

[iblamezygomaticbone]

how much you got the gh for?

 

[NoaA99]

I just enjoy being part of a forum full of medical professionals who know exactly what they’re doing and talking about.

 

[Fleisch]

high phosphate levels and diarrehia r the only ones u can mitigate from infig, other than that messing with ur eyes r very risky bec once u see the symptoms of blurred vision its already over so you NEED to go to the eye docotor every 21 days if ur taking it.

do u have studies showing people who took it and are fine after if u do i may consider taking it however most studies i see are just people getting raped by infig and other fgfr3 inhibitors

(the study i was referring to was in pubmed i forgot the pubmed id)

U can keep coping bro, I coundlt care less if u take it or not. Im just saying, that what ur saying is just mostly incorrect, rare cases exist, but most of what your saying just does not happen. I am not going around here saying water is deadly because when u drink 100 liters at once u will die. Just take my advice or not, I hope you know what your doing man. praying for the best cuz those anch's arent enough

 

[Aox Ofwar]

Add some rat piss and cyanide since you're not taking all that shit anyway

 

[AtrophicPyra]

p5p is more than enough and tren is the lightest 19nor on prolactin, its more similar to a dht derivative than nandrolone in the way it acts in your brain and caber mimics dopamine in the brain which tren already increases sensitivity to so your dopamine is going to crash heavily when you get off and caber causes dysphoria in some people even while taking it

u don't loose much from pcting with hcg ur right but every time you pct your chances of successfully pcting in the future decrease so i would be 100% sure your done with roids before u do so

ok ill think abt extending the cycle to a year then, and research more abt p5p

ur double raping your skin barrier your gonna look like you survived a fire

hmm ok what do u think abt Adapalene instead of tret

 

[AtrophicPyra]

U can keep coping bro, I coundlt care less if u take it or not. Im just saying, that what ur saying is just mostly incorrect, rare cases exist, but most of what your saying just does not happen. I am not going around here saying water is deadly because when u drink 100 liters at once u will die. Just take my advice or not, I hope you know what your doing man. praying for the best cuz those anch's arent enough

r u taking it right now?

 

[India lover 52]

ok ill think abt extending the cycle to a year then, and research more abt p5p

hmm ok what do u think abt Adapalene instead of tret

p5p is just a supplement u can get on amazon


i've never used adapalene but if your already on isotret you don't need any topicals save them for after the cycle

 

[AtrophicPyra]

p5p is just a supplement u can get on amazon


i've never used adapalene but if your already on isotret you don't need any topicals save them for after the cycle

but after the cycle the damage would have already been done and my collagen turnover will be fucked and ill look aged,

 

[India lover 52]

but after the cycle the damage would have already been done and my collagen turnover will be fucked and ill look aged,

isotret is 10x stronger than any topical it will be way more than enough

 

[AtrophicPyra]

isotret is 10x stronger than any topical it will be way more than enough

nono so isotret helps with oil production problem but the other things im referring like adapalene are for collagen turnover which androgens fuck up, isotret doesnt cover collagen turnover

 

[India lover 52]

nono so isotret helps with oil production problem but the other things im referring like adapalene are for collagen turnover which androgens fuck up, isotret doesnt cover collagen turnover

then microneedle or use ghk cu or ahk, stacking a topical with isotret will make your collagen 10x worse

 

[AtrophicPyra]

then microneedle or use ghk cu or ahk, stacking a topical with isotret will make your collagen 10x worse

how does microneedling work? ghkcu seems promising to kind of help collagen turnover

 

[India lover 52]

how does microneedling work? ghkcu seems promising to kind of help collagen turnover

not really recommended while on isotret more of a thing to do afterwards but you buy a pen that stabs a bunch of needles into your skin and that stimulates collagen turnover

 

[AtrophicPyra]

not really recommended while on isotret more of a thing to do afterwards but you buy a pen that stabs a bunch of needles into your skin and that stimulates collagen turnover

ohh i see, so microneedling low dose ghk, isotret, and metformin is a good skincare stack on and off of gear?

 

[India lover 52]

ohh i see, so microneedling low dose ghk, isotret, and metformin is a good skincare stack on and off of gear?

yes but idk why you mentioned metformin tho

 

[AtrophicPyra]

yes but idk why you mentioned metformin tho

for mitochondrial health, its mostly for tren bec it fucks up ur mitochondria