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No pitty please . Brutally honest
 
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the only thing I see is to get your mouth widder
 
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Your face is great bro. I don’t think you should get the hair cut posted above, I know guys who look similar to you and have fade cuts and do well. Just train neck bro. Masesthetic >>

Gymmax and you will be Chadlite + SMV trust
 
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Maesthetics=King said:
Your face is great bro. I don’t think you should get the hair cut posted above, I know guys who look similar to you and have fade cuts and do well. Just train neck bro. Masesthetic >>

Gymmax and you will be Chadlite + SMV trust
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I said the same thing as u, I dont think longer hair would suit him as he has good ratios and skull, he should keep his hair as how it is now.
 
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Maesthetics=King said:
Your face is great bro. I don’t think you should get the hair cut posted above, I know guys who look similar to you and have fade cuts and do well. Just train neck bro. Masesthetic >>

Gymmax and you will be Chadlite + SMV trust
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For the neck I Definitely agree for hair I really don't know man I'm confused
 
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HalfGypsyMogger said:
I said the same thing as u, I dont think longer hair would suit him as he has good ratios and skull, he should keep his hair as how it is now.
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yeah guys with good skull can arguably look better with shorter hair tbh as it shows off a good trait. Imagine Thurston or Maher tiktok hair it would not look as good
 
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Hoso said:
ure such a coper
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you are, it's ethnic cope because they think they've at least got their lips going for them, in reality prominent mouths are a failo.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

What do women want? Facialmetric assessment of multiple motives in the perception of male facial physical attractiveness - PubMed

The multiple motive hypothesis of physical attractiveness suggests that women are attracted to men whose appearances elicit their nurturant feelings, who appear to possess sexual maturity and dominance characteristics, who seem sociable, approacheable, and of high social status. Those multiple...
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>“Faces with the individual mature features of a square jaw and thin lips were rated as more attractive than male faces with round jaws or thick lips.”

there isn't a single study that objectively measures outcomes in which larger mouths are considered attractive, it is pure and unadulterated cope.
 
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Arborist said:
you are, it's ethnic cope because they think they've at least got their lips going for them, in reality prominent mouths are a failo.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

What do women want? Facialmetric assessment of multiple motives in the perception of male facial physical attractiveness - PubMed

The multiple motive hypothesis of physical attractiveness suggests that women are attracted to men whose appearances elicit their nurturant feelings, who appear to possess sexual maturity and dominance characteristics, who seem sociable, approacheable, and of high social status. Those multiple...
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

>“Faces with the individual mature features of a square jaw and thin lips were rated as more attractive than male faces with round jaws or thick lips.”
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This study is from 1990, beauty standards have changed a lot since then.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Comparison of preferences in lip position using computer animated imaging - PubMed

The objectives of this study were to examine the esthetic preferences of lip position in males and females, and to compare them with each other and with a common orthodontic standard using a custom computer animation program. The sample consisted of 53 young adult subjects, 25 males and 28...
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> "The results indicated a sex-effect, with females preferring fuller lips than males."
> "both males and females preferred lip fullness greater than the Ricketts' values."

Heres a newer study from 2018: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5952987/

> "Robust, pouty lips are considered to be sexually attractive by both males and females."
> "In youthful Caucasians, the ideal ratio of the vertical height of the upper lip to that of the lower lip is 1:1.6."

IIRC your lips are almost 1:1 and very thin, you're always coping with your failos not being a failo while comfortably ignoring the evidence that goes against it, very funny

the beauty standard for females AND males nowadays are fuller lips, keep coping, im not ethnic btw
 
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Hoso said:
This study is from 1990, beauty standards have changed a lot since then.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Comparison of preferences in lip position using computer animated imaging - PubMed

The objectives of this study were to examine the esthetic preferences of lip position in males and females, and to compare them with each other and with a common orthodontic standard using a custom computer animation program. The sample consisted of 53 young adult subjects, 25 males and 28...
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

> "The results indicated a sex-effect, with females preferring fuller lips than males."
> "both males and females preferred lip fullness greater than the Ricketts' values."

Heres a newer study from 2018: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5952987/

> "Robust, pouty lips are considered to be sexually attractive by both males and females."
> "In youthful Caucasians, the ideal ratio of the vertical height of the upper lip to that of the lower lip is 1:1.6."

IIRC your lips are almost 1:1 and very thin, you're always coping with your failos not being a failo while comfortably ignoring the evidence that goes against it, very funny

the beauty standard for females AND males nowadays are fuller lips, keep coping, im not ethnic btw
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Fuller lips in relation to facial width and greater vermilion height are perceived as attractive in females.
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the study you're citing only evaluated lips in women, both men and women think they're better in other women, not men.
 
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Arborist said:
the study you're citing only evaluated lips in women, both men and women think they're better in other women, not men.
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youre right, but youre ignoring the other study again

heres another one for you: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1748681515001370

> "We found a significant higher ratio of upper vermillion height/mouth-nose distance in frontal-view images of attractive compared to unattractive female (p < 0.001) and male (p < 0.05) perioral regions. "

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red line is vermillion height and turqoise is mouth nose distance, higher ratio indicates higher attractiveness i.e. larger vermillion height (fullness) or shorter philtrum

> "the ratio of upper vermillion height/chin-nose distance was significantly higher in attractive than in unattractive female (p < 0.005) and male (p < 0.05) lip and chin regions. "

i.e. fuller lips in comparison to your lower third height are more attractive

there are no conclusions about lower vermillion, but we can take the conclusions of other studies setting the ideal ratio of upper to lower lip at 1:1.6
 
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Hoso said:
youre right, but youre ignoring the other study again

heres another one for you: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1748681515001370

> "We found a significant higher ratio of upper vermillion height/mouth-nose distance in frontal-view images of attractive compared to unattractive female (p < 0.001) and male (p < 0.05) perioral regions. "

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red line is vermillion height and turqoise is mouth nose distance, higher ratio indicates higher attractiveness i.e. larger vermillion height (fullness) or shorter philtrum

> "the ratio of upper vermillion height/chin-nose distance was significantly higher in attractive than in unattractive female (p < 0.005) and male (p < 0.05) lip and chin regions. "

i.e. fuller lips in comparison to your lower third height are more attractive

there are no conclusions about lower vermillion, but we can take the conclusions of other studies setting the ideal ratio of upper to lower lip at 1:1.6
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from the same study.
Interestingly, the more unattractive the model’s lips were, according to the scores, the more time the panel spent looking at them.
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but also the ideal range of this study isn't particularly full.

and also it's published in the Journal of Plastic, Reconstructive & Aesthetic Surgery even though they stated there's no conflict of interest.
 
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Arborist said:
from the same study.

but also the ideal range of this study isn't particularly full.

and also it's published in the Journal of Plastic, Reconstructive & Aesthetic Surgery even though they stated there's no conflict of interest.
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i think we can agree that its not as easy as saying 'muh full lips/thin lips mog' as there is a lot of contradictory empirical evidence

like with many features that get disussed here
 
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Hoso said:
i think we can agree that its not as easy as saying 'muh full lips/thin lips mog' as there is a lot of contradictory empirical evidence

like with many features that get disussed here
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most people are attracted to facial averageness, too much or too little always tends to be negative, same goes for the jaw, having massive overgrowth won't ascend you, that being said he's still pouting to get his cheeks to look hollow and his lips aren't actually as narrow as they appear.
 
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Arborist said:
most people are attracted to facial averageness, too much or too little always tends to be negative, same goes for the jaw, having massive overgrowth won't ascend you, that being said he's still pouting to get his cheeks to look hollow and his lips aren't actually as narrow as they appear.
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No putting here my mouth is like this I used I suck and bit them since I was a kid that's why they are so full I regret that , i'm the only one in family with full lips like that my brothers and whole family have same mouth width but thin lips
 
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Arborist said:
most people are attracted to facial averageness, too much or too little always tends to be negative, same goes for the jaw, having massive overgrowth won't ascend you, that being said he's still pouting to get his cheeks to look hollow and his lips aren't actually as narrow as they appear.
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sure he is frauding by pouting
 
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Youness20456 said:
No putting here my mouth is like this I used I suck and bit them since I was a kid that's why they are so full I regret that , i'm the only one in family with full lips like that my brothers and whole family have same mouth width but thin lips
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wouldn't focus on it, isn't very important and it's not what's causing you to look off, you look gaunt rather than lean.
 
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Youness20456 said:
Yeah a little bit , a bit lean and skinny
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you'd look better if you gained some size + thicker neck + fluffier hair, it looks thinnish right now, but the metallic tone of the picture isn't helping.

you look quite young but some of your characteristics make you appear older than you actually are.
 
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Arborist said:
you'd look better if you gained some size + thicker neck + fluffier hair, it looks thinnish right now, but the metallic tone of the picture isn't helping.

you look quite young but some of your characteristics make you appear older than you actually are.
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Ye that's right I'm 21 next month
 
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Blackgymmax said:
Thats the first thing a girl commented on when seeing his pics so no
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that's probably because it looks like he's pouting which makes it look odd, not because there's anything wrong with the shape of it.
 
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