raw meat?? thats CRAZY!!!!!!!!!!

[Deleted member 5189]

EVERY SINGLE animal on earth eats raw meat!!

but humans??? no no no

we just evolved out of it!

humans shouldn't be eating raw meat XD what are you crazy!?

yep. we just magically evolved out of it.

one day humans decided: you know what? should we start burning the nutrients and healthy bacteria from our food before we eat it? and the rest is history

and from there on we just magically evolved into not being able to eat raw meat anymore and somehow all of a sudden started being able to eat plants even though its something only very few animals (who also eat raw meat) are able to do because they're capable of doing microbial fermentation which humans literally are physically incapable of doing.

 

[Deleted member 4430]

and every single animal dont use wifi aswell

 

[Deleted member 14455]

what difference does it make? you think it's good, eat it.

 

[Deleted member 5189]

and every single animal dont use wifi aswell

i would have no reason to use it if i was born in nature but had the option to. nature satisfies. i didnt chose to be born in da city.

 

[Deleted member 5189]

cooking the meat makes it more nutritious

that can be debunked with common sense alone

 

[Deleted member 13021]

and from there on we just magically evolved into not being able to eat raw meat anymore and somehow all of a sudden started being able to eat plants even though its something only very few animals (who also eat raw meat) are able to do because they're capable of doing microbial fermentation which humans literally are physically incapable of doing.

Your gut flora is actually able to do microbial fermentation, that's why you fart.

Nonetheless it's not fermentation which leads to the digestion of cellulose in ruminants.

Btw this rant doesn't make any sense, eat your meat raw if you like, maybe your progeny will evolve back into eating raw meat if you continue.

 

[Deleted member 5189]

eating raw meat isnt common sense

why not. every single animal in nature eats raw meat

Your gut flora is actually able to do microbial fermentation, that's why you fart.

Nonetheless it's not fermentation which leads to the digestion of cellulose in ruminants.

Btw this rant doesn't make any sense, eat your meat raw if you like, maybe your progeny will evolve back into eating raw meat if you continue.

how did we evolve out of it

 

[Deleted member 13021]

How did we evolve out of it

Natural selection, like every other animal characteristic: people who ate raw meat died or had less sex because they were shitting diarrhea behind a bush, while people who were eating cooked meat survived and fucked more.

Clearly that's the simplified version, but that's how it works over the course of hundreds of years; natural selection favors the good traits while it greatly disfavors bad ones.

That's also the point of why ugly people don't have sex, natural selection is doing is course and keeping our alleles from spreading.

 

[Gengar]

i eat sushi tho and thats raw fish

 

[Deleted member 13021]

Y

i eat sushi tho and thats raw fish

Yeah except that meat got blast chilled to eliminate every source of contamination.

 

[TsarTsar444]

There is no reason to eat raw meat, protein, fat don't get destroyed on such low temperature

 

[Deleted member 13021]

There is no reason to eat raw meat, protein, fat don't get destroyed on such low temperature

The fuck does that even mean?

That's not the issue with eating raw meat, your body enzymes are plenty capable of digesting protein and fats, that's why your stomach is full of HCl.

The issue with eating raw meat is bacterial and parasitic contamination.

 

[Deleted member 5189]

Natural selection, like every other animal characteristic: people who ate raw meat died or had less sex because they were shitting diarrhea behind a bush, while people who were eating cooked meat survived and fucked more.

Clearly that's the simplified version, but that's how it works over the course of hundreds of years; natural selection favors the good traits while it greatly disfavors bad ones.

That's also the point of why ugly people don't have sex, natural selection is doing is course and keeping our alleles from spreading.

why is it that in nature humans are the single animal on earth that isn't/wasn't able to eat raw meat

 

[Deleted member 5189]

The issue with eating raw meat is bacterial and parasitic contamination.

the parasites and bacteria help you digest food better unless they come from a vaccine/virus made in a lab

 

[TsarTsar444]

The fuck does that even mean?

That's not the issue with eating raw meat, your body enzymes are plenty capable of digesting protein and fats, that's why your stomach is full of HCl.

The issue with eating raw meat is bacterial and parasitic contamination.

I said protein and fat don't get destroyed by cooking the meat, so there is no cons with cooking meat, but there are cons from uncooked meat

 

[Deleted member 6128]

and every single animal dont use wifi aswell

Technically animals have their own version of WiFi

 

[Deleted member 13021]

the parasites and bacteria help you digest food better unless they come from a vaccine/virus made in a lab

Stop spewing bullshit, anisakis is an example of a parasite normally found in fish meat, try eating it and see how you feel, same goes for all kinds of tapewormas, most bacteria and viruses too, or do you think e.coli is man made or that the black plague was created in a lab?

The bacteria that helps you digest food are symbiotic to a specific organism, you have them too, that's your gut flora which is totally different from the bacteria that causes illnesses and infections.

 

[Deleted member 13021]

why is it that in nature humans are the single animal on earth that isn't/wasn't able to eat raw meat

As i said we evolved out of it.

We're one of the very few animals that walks on 2 feet too, the only animal with a complex speech pattern, and the list goes on...

Simply we're the most evoluted being present on planet earth right now, we're an animal like every other animal on earth, but at the same time we evolved out of being an "animal".

Again i invite you to try to live by eating only raw meat like a predator, I'm sure you'll survive without any problems; oh and by the way only eat hunted animals, don't eat that "processed" meat you find on store shelves.

 

[Deleted member 5189]

Stop spewing bullshit, anisakis is an example of a parasite normally found in fish meat, try eating it and see how you feel, same goes for all kinds of tapewormas, most bacteria and viruses too, or do you think e.coli is man made or that the black plague was created in a lab?

The bacteria that helps you digest food are symbiotic to a specific organism, you have them too, that's your gut flora which is totally different from the bacteria that causes illnesses and infections.

why are other animals able to eat raw meat

 

[Deleted member 5189]

As i said we evolved out of it.

We're one of the very few animals that walks on 2 feet too, the only animal with a complex speech pattern, and the list goes on...

Simply we're the most evoluted being present on planet earth right now, we're an animal like every other animal on earth, but at the same time we evolved out of being an "animal".

Again i invite you to try to live by eating only raw meat like a predator, I'm sure you'll survive without any problems; oh and by the way only eat hunted animals, don't eat that "processed" meat you find on store shelves.

how did we evolve out of it. u said it was cuz of survival of the fittest assuming that all the humans in their tribe were different or had genetic mutations which has never been heard of before in nature.

 

[Deleted member 5189]

how did we evolve out of it. u said it was cuz of survival of the fittest assuming that all the humans in their tribe were different or had genetic mutations which has never been heard of before in nature.

@TsarTsar444 WHAT?

 

[TsarTsar444]

@TsarTsar444 WHAT?

Evolution is complicated, we didn't evolve out of it completely, cause you can still eat raw meat, it just wouldn't be digested as well as coocked. We partially evolved out of it because raw meat doesn't taste as good as coocked meat, humans learned this and starting coocking meat, and after thousands of years our stomach lost the ability to be able to fully digest raw meat. Thats the biggest cause, its not that complicated

 

[Deleted member 5189]

Evolution is complicated, we didn't evolve out of it completely, cause you can still eat raw meat, it just wouldn't be digested as well as coocked. We partially evolved out of it because raw meat doesn't taste as good as coocked meat, humans learned this and starting coocking meat, and after thousands of years our stomach lost the ability to be able to fully digest raw meat. Thats the biggest cause, its not that complicated

raw meat tastes better. have u had steak tar tar before at least?

 

[TsarTsar444]

raw meat tastes better. have u had steak tar tar before at least?

Thats absolutely your opinion, for the wast majority it doesn't taste better, i have eaten raw red meat and it wasn't bad but it wasn't that good, it didn't have the crispines and strong flavor like cooked meat, felt too leathery and neutral

 

[Deleted member 13021]

Im sorry dude I wont continue this conversation with you, you don't seem to even read half the stuff i write, no point goin on.

Enjoy your tartar and sushi

how did we evolve out of it. u said it was cuz of survival of the fittest assuming that all the humans in their tribe were different or had genetic mutations which has never been heard of before in nature.

If you'd like to learn more on this subject and how natural selection affcets genetic mutations i advise you to read the wikipedia pages about speciation, hardy weinberg law and natural selection effects on allele distribution.

It will help you better understand how this stuff works and why we can't eat raw meat anymore.

 

[Deleted member 5189]

Thats absolutely your opinion, for the wast majority it doesn't taste better, i have eaten raw red meat and it wasn't bad but it wasn't that good, it didn't have the crispines and strong flavor like cooked meat, felt too leathery and neutral

probably cuz it wasnt truly wild and obviously they always put shit on it including using oil to cook it. everyone who has natural raw meat thinks its better than any other natural food.

 

[Deleted member 5189]

If you'd like to learn more on this subject and how natural selection affcets genetic mutations i advise you to read the wikipedia pages about speciation, hardy weinberg law and natural selection effects on allele distribution.

It will help you better understand how this stuff works and why we can't eat raw meat anymore.

well one reason why some of us struggle to eat raw meat is because we destroy our guts with plants and unnatural foods we shouldn't be eating.

 

[TsarTsar444]

probably cuz it wasnt truly wild and obviously they always put shit on it including using oil to cook it. everyone who has natural raw meat thinks its better than any other natural food.

It was natural, i live in a agricultural grassy place, cows here live a natural life in the mountains. Bro stop please, toasted meat has much more flavor, and hot stuff feel better too, they remind us of comfort

 

[Deleted member 13021]

well one reason why some of us struggle to eat raw meat is because we destroy our guts with plants and unnatural foods we shouldn't be eating.

I don't think you read my message at all lol, your response doesn't even have any correlation to mine.

 

[Deleted member 5189]

It was natural, i live in a agricultural grassy place, cows here live a natural life in the mountains. Bro stop please, toasted meat has much more flavor, and hot stuff feel better too, they remind us of comfort

if you spend enough time outdoors and eat raw meat then you're body is naturally the right temperature and doesnt need meat to be cooked for you to feel warmth and comfort. go outside right now and go to those mountains kill a cow and sleep there with no clothes on and you will feel the best you've ever felt in your life.

 

[Uglybrazilian]

Humans are not chimpanzees or lions your reasoning is not reasonable.

 

[Deleted member 14455]

Op keep fucking coping jfl at you eating raw

 

[TsarTsar444]

if you spend enough time outdoors and eat raw meat then you're body is naturally the right temperature and doesnt need meat to be cooked for you to feel warmth and comfort. go outside right now and go to those mountains kill a cow and sleep there with no clothes on and you will feel the best you've ever felt in your life.

Okay, and what is the supposed benefit of eating raw meat according to you?

 

[Deleted member 13021]

if you spend enough time outdoors and eat raw meat then you're body is naturally the right temperature and doesnt need meat to be cooked for you to feel warmth and comfort. go outside right now and go to those mountains kill a cow and sleep there with no clothes on and you will feel the best you've ever felt in your life.

This is getting really fun, come on dude you're trolling, it can't be otherwise

 

[Deleted member 5189]

I don't think you read my message at all lol, your response doesn't even have any correlation to mine.

eveolution only happens in unnatural environments. humans in their natural tribes their bodies are nearly exactly alike just like every other animal on the planet the only time mutations occur is they surround themselves with unnatural chemicals and man made viruses.

 

[Deleted member 5189]

This is getting really fun, come on dude you're trolling, it can't be otherwise

yes i was kinda joking that time but its also kinda true in a way at the same time

 

[Deleted member 13021]

eveolution only happens in unnatural environments. humans in their natural tribes their bodies are nearly exactly alike just like every other animal on the planet the only time mutations occur is they surround themselves with unnatural chemicals and man made viruses.

Yeah sure dude, that's why almost every man in africa has sickle cell disease, because evolution doesn't happen in humans

 

[Deleted member 5189]

Humans are not chimpanzees or lions your reasoning is not reasonable.

every single animal on earth. every. single. animal. eats raw meat.

do you think its normal that we have to WORK to get a healthy (natural) body?

when people think of natural humans of the past they always picture them as being weak and looking malnourished but they're low bodyfat and muscley and all they do is run for a bit every now and then and thats it. the only work humans have to do is hunt.

 

[Deleted member 5189]

Yeah sure dude, that's why almost every man in africa has sickle cell disease, because evolution doesn't happen in humans

what is it they say that causes sickle cell disease?

 

[Deleted member 13021]

what is it they say that causes sickle cell disease?

A Mutated allele.

Almost every human in africa is heterozygous for that allele and the non mutated one. Why?

Because if you're heterozygous for that allele you don't contract malaria.

At the same time the rate of people who are homozygous for the mutated allele or the normal one are greatly reduced because natural selection favors the heteozygosity for that gene in places were malaria is endemic, so you don't contract it or have the full effect of the sickle cell disease.

Over time that allele might mutate even more into a different allele which doesn't cause the slight sickle cell disease symptoms you get in heterozygousity, but will still keep you protected from malaria.

That's most of the process of how natural selection and gene mutations works.

Same goes for the genes which were responsible to help us digest raw food; an example of that is the gene that induced a more muscly jaw which helped you better tear meat from animal carcasses, over time we got rid of it because it impaired our verbal communication and was useless with cooked meat.

Name of the gene i'm referring to is MYH16

 

[Deleted member 12216]

Binged on raw organs, raw eggs, raw meat and raw milk as soon as I realized that its the actual way humans are "supposed" to eat meat. However it didn't do anything. Sure, the nutrients in my blood are good according to the bloodtest but I'm sure they would have been roughly the same if I ate it cooked.

Eating raw animal products is by no means a magical cure. Healthwise it is better than cooked, yeah, but that doesn't mean anything. Nothing will change.

 

[Deleted member 5189]

A Mutated allele.

Almost every human in africa is heterozygous for that allele and the non mutated one. Why?

Because if you're heterozygous for that allele you don't contract malaria.

At the same time the rate of people who are homozygous for the mutated allele or the normal one are greatly reduced because natural selection favors the heteozygosity for that gene in places were malaria is endemic, so you don't contract it or have the full effect of the sickle cell disease.

Over time that allele might mutate even more into a different allele which doesn't cause the slight sickle cell disease symptoms you get in heterozygousity, but will still keep you protected from malaria.

That's most of the process of how natural selection and gene mutations works.

Same goes for the genes which were responsible to help us digest raw food; an example of that is the gene that induced a more muscly jaw which helped you better tear meat from animal carcasses, over time we got rid of it because it impaired our verbal communication and was useless with cooked meat.

Name of the gene i'm referring to is MYH16

tldr?

 

[Deleted member 13021]

tldr?

You're dumb and pretentious

 

[Deleted member 5189]

You're dumb and pretentious

their sickle cell could be cured if they ate raw meat

 

[Deleted member 13021]

their sickle cell could be cured if they ate raw meat

You don't want it to be cured

 

[Deleted member 6273]

Yeah sure dude, that's why almost every man in africa has sickle cell disease, because evolution doesn't happen in humans

Sickle cell disease isn't that common even if you include sickle cell trait maybe around 10% of West and central Africans have it as an adaptation to malaria.

 

[Cali Yuga]

Natural selection, like every other animal characteristic: people who ate raw meat died or had less sex because they were shitting diarrhea behind a bush, while people who were eating cooked meat survived and fucked more.

Clearly that's the simplified version, but that's how it works over the course of hundreds of years; natural selection favors the good traits while it greatly disfavors bad ones.

That's also the point of why ugly people don't have sex, natural selection is doing is course and keeping our alleles from spreading.

ITT people who've never eaten raw meat

it literally digests better than cooked lmao

ive eaten hundreds of pounds of meat/organs raw in my lifetime and never once gotten sick or had "diarrhea in a bush"

youre more likely to get food poisoning from unwashed produce that got shit on by some wetback migrant worker in the field

"but muh evolutionary rationalization cope"

you can come up with a just so story for any trait that way; how about you actually prove there's an adaptive advantage and that there are heritable traits conferring that advantage that significantly changed the digestive system and that those changes affect raw meat digestion before spouting off and trying to sound smart

oh wait you cant because youre a midwit retard repeating SCIENCE WORDS youve heard from the cool SCIENCE PEOPLE like a trained seal

 

[Deleted member 13021]

Sickle cell disease isn't that common even if you include sickle cell trait maybe around 10% of West and central Africans have it as an adaptation to malaria.

More than 1% is very high for a specific allele, at that point you're not talking any more about a mutated allele, you're talking about a polymorphism.

The rate is around 15-16% for west and central africa, that's a very significant number.

 

[Deleted member 13021]

ITT people who've never eaten raw meat

it literally digests better than cooked lmao

ive eaten hundreds of pounds of meat/organs raw in my lifetime and never once gotten sick or had "diarrhea in a bush"

youre more likely to get food poisoning from unwashed produce that got shit on by some wetback migrant worker in the field

"but muh evolutionary rationalization cope"

you can come up with a just so story for any trait that way; how about you actually prove there's an adaptive advantage and that there are heritable traits conferring that advantage that significantly changed the digestive system and that those changes affect raw meat digestion before spouting off and trying to sound smart

oh wait you cant because youre a midwit retard repeating SCIENCE WORDS youve heard from the cool SCIENCE PEOPLE like a trained seal

The myh16 gene proves what you're asking

 

[RecessedCel5]

some parts are better eaten raw