REALISTICALLY AND HONESTLY: how can i get a loving gf as PSL2-3 KHHV 23y/o?

@5foot8Paki made a thread about this.

at this point you have to simp/familiarity maxx.
ya if ur not slayer u gotta accept u have to hang out with a girl and eventually get broken up with and cheated on if u want a relationship

not a big deal tho if u dont get attached like a simp

even if u get kids and divorce, having kids means you won, its all that matters, waking up next to a dry dusty bag of bones with saggy tits when ur 90 is a shit ending for me
 
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It doesnt exist
 
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fix your acne scars and run social game i guess. U might have to go for a girl a far bit younger than you, as ones your age may be hypergamous sluts.

also take phenibut
 
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@5foot8Paki made a thread about this.

at this point you have to simp/familiarity maxx.
No simping or betabuxxing. I might be a loser incel but I got self respect and honor.

You need to be more open to experiences, for example, you can't just dismiss going to a club because you "don't like the music and alcohol", like fuck, no one drinks spirits cause they like it and no one goes to the club for music, but they go for a fun time and because your freinds want to and you and your freinds to be happy. Try being more emphatic, cause if you don't, you will be in a fucking bubble for the rest of your virgin life.
That would look retarded if I went to the club as real self. Seriously there is no way for me to be NT unless I take some kind of drug before even leaving the fucking apartment.
I sometimes feel like I am controlling a video game character. I feel nothing.
 
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it's impossible. Even landwhales want at least a psl 5 male.
 
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What's with the moneymaxxing? I'm broke as fuck and still have a GF who loves me. If OP wants to be a betabux then sure, moneymaxxing would work for him.
This, same with my ex. We were both broke students and she would regularly buy clothes for me or pay when we would go out to restaurants. I would pay for other stuff occasionally aswell.

Betabuxing is degrading behavior. In a healthy relationship money doesn't matter.
 
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This, same with my ex. We were both broke students and she would regularly buy clothes for me or pay when we would go out to restaurants. I would pay for other stuff occasionally aswell.

Betabuxing is degrading behavior. In a healthy relationship money doesn't matter.
Very very true. Money is cope. What's your PSL height btw.

Your life, your entire life is way more pathetic
Fuck that. I ain't dropping my school and everything just to migrate to another country. Sex tourism is fucking pathetic.
 
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Very very true. Money is cope. What's your PSL height btw.
5PSL, 6'0 . But I had a looksmatched tall 5PSL gf. If I was 4PSL I would've been happy with a 4PSL girl, also without betabuxing ofcourse.

I've been single for a year now though, despite much effort into finding a new gf. So I got pretty lucky and it's probably not the average experience to have a looksmatched gf without betabuxing, but I am not going to accept anything less tbh.

Just continue self-improving, looksmaxing and most importantly taking care of your mental health, trying to find happy, valuable moments in your life. Being in a bad relationship is not that much better than not being in a relationship at all. And it can leave you exhausted and trapped in place.
 
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5PSL, 6'0 . But I had a looksmatched tall 5PSL gf. If I was 4PSL I would've been happy with a 4PSL girl, also without betabuxing ofcourse.

I've been single for a year now though, despite much effort into finding a new gf. So I got pretty lucky and it's probably not the average experience to have a looksmatched gf without betabuxing, but I am not going to accept anything less tbh.

Just continue self-improving, looksmaxing and most importantly taking care of your mental health, trying to find happy, valuable moments in your life. Being in a bad relationship is not that much better than not being in a relationship at all. And it can leave you exhausted and trapped in place.
If you are having trouble at PSL5 and getting "lucky" then it is beyond over for PSL3 men
 
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OH BOY
guys who never dated are so oblivious...
 
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What do you mean???
you'll not get happier or feel love just because you're in a relationship, you could get even worse tho
just focus on yourself

believe me if dating was so good marriage wouldn't be a contract
just fuak girls for a month and then leave, that should be your goal
 
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If you are having trouble at PSL5 and getting "lucky" then it is beyond over for PSL3 men
It is what it is. You probably have a decent shot at PSL3-4 women. PSL5 women have waaaay too many options, being asked out constantly, thirsty guys 24/7 in DM's, def not something easy to get. I am not expecting less than another 1-3 years of being single before landing a new PSL5 gf tbh.

Till then it's fucking a few 4's every now and then, escorts and masturbation for me.
 
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It is what it is. You probably have a decent shot at PSL3-4 women. PSL5 women have waaaay too many options, being asked out constantly, thirsty guys 24/7 in DM's, def not something easy to get. I am not expecting less than another 1-3 years of being single before landing a new PSL5 gf tbh.
That's fucking tragic. But yea I'd be happy with looksmatch as long as she is loyal and loving and below 2 bodycount. Anything above 2 is a whore and I honestly wish death to every woman with more than 2 sex partners.
 
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you'll not get happier or feel love just because you're in a relationship, you could get even worse tho
just focus on yourself

believe me if dating was so good marriage wouldn't be a contract
just fuak girls for a month and then leave, that should be your goal
Absolute bullshit. Falling in love and getting your very first GF are one of the most surreal, most dopamine inducing experiences i ever had in my life. I legitimately thought I was incapable of loving a female romantically before my first GF. It's the most life changing thing I ever experienced in my life.
This, same with my ex. We were both broke students and she would regularly buy clothes for me or pay when we would go out to restaurants. I would pay for other stuff occasionally aswell.

Betabuxing is degrading behavior. In a healthy relationship money doesn't matter.
We were both broke students as well and we would meet up in the park without spending a single penny and just hang out. Obviously being poor is frustrating sometimes but she wanted to just be with me and it didn't matter if I had money or not and never even brought up the subject.
 
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Absolute bullshit. Falling in love and getting your very first GF are one of the most surreal, most dopamine inducing experiences i ever had in my life. I legitimately thought I was incapable of loving a female romantically before my first GF. It's the most life changing thing I ever experienced in my life.
This is what I believe. Relationships are everything. People who never experienced one... are just withered.
 
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This is what I believe. Relationships are everything. People who never experienced one... are just withered.
I hope you get a GF bro. But before you do, embrace yourself for the potential heartbreak that you match experience upon the termination of your relationship. Try to talk to other girls while having a GF so you can have a few backups in mind. And the biggest advice i could give you is : don't force attraction onto a female. If she breaks up with you, let her go. If she withholds sexual intimacy, let her go. If she cheats, let her go. Be prepared mentally because going through your first relationship is at the same time the best and the worst thing that could happen. There's a possibility that you might find a loyal GF and LTR her for a very long time though.
 
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Try asking uneducated women from rural areas, chances you'll find your match in some isolated polish village, beware of witches tho!
 
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Absolute bullshit. Falling in love and getting your very first GF are one of the most surreal, most dopamine inducing experiences i ever had in my life. I legitimately thought I was incapable of loving a female romantically before my first GF. It's the most life changing thing I ever experienced in my life.
cuck material right here
 
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cuck material right here
I wouldn't say that. I believe what Greeciy said. First love, and love in general is everything (now remember we are talking love fundamentally based on mutual attraction from looks, not money or status).
 
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Hope you will do better soon
Idk what to tell you others haven't told you yet

Maybe even though you don't like to drink or the music in bars
Just go along once in a while to see how other behave around women

Might also help social circle
Try to bond with class mates
Say yes to things that seem boring or not your style

Just give things a try if it's possible

Really hope things take a turn for the better soon
 
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No way, you are psl2-3. You are average at minimum, thus PSL 4. But more likely you are 4.5 PSL.

Poland, is also good locationmaxxing.

You seem to me, mainly actually:
* Mentalcel
* Communication and and social cel (to high in neuroticism and nervousness to pull of good conversations with womenz).
* Numbers game cel (not meeting enough new women, because of above 2 reasons. And thus not enough: chatting up chicks to ask them out)
yeah you don't wanna look like the creeper going to bars alone.
High inhib comment.
Slayer dudes, leave their group of friends often regularly when at parties. So they can chat up chicks without their friends butting in and ruining shit. Friends for me, where more often an hindrance block then help. Taking up time talking about stuff, while I could be hitting on chicks playing the numbers game. Butting in talking about stuff that bores chicks. Etc..
Only legit, is going with high status or good looking friends. Or with friends, when there is in that group plenty chicks/women.
A group of normie dudes, is a fucking hindrance block when out on the hunt for poon.
 
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No way, you are psl2-3. You are average at minimum, thus PSL 4. But more likely you are 4.5 PSL.

Poland, is also good locationmaxxing.

You seem to me, mainly actually:
* Mentalcel
* Communication and and social cel (to high in neuroticism and nervousness to pull of good conversations with womenz).
* Numbers game cel (not meeting enough new women, because of above 2 reasons. And thus not enough: chatting up chicks to ask them out)

High inhib comment.
Slayer dudes, leave their group of friends often regularly when at parties. So they can chat up chicks without their friends butting in and ruining shit. Friends for me, where more often an hindrance block then help. Taking up time talking about stuff, while I could be hitting on chicks playing the numbers game. Butting in talking about stuff that bores chicks. Etc..
Only legit, is going with high status or good looking friends. Or with friends, when there is in that group plenty chicks/women.
A group of normie dudes, is a fucking hindrance block when out on the hunt for poon.
Average is new ugly man. You need to be above average in all sections: 5'10+, face 6/10+, dick 7inch+, otherwise it's over and it's especially over if average man is non NT.
 
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Average is new ugly man. You need to be above average in all sections: 5'10+, face 6/10+, dick 7inch+, otherwise it's over and it's especially over if average man is non NT.
The question for me, with you is a litlle bit.

What shoud you work on though?
face&body or your lack of NT.
Probably both is the answer. But I never hear you talk about maxxing and training to become better socially. You do still have room for physical improvement also, I ain't never seen you had a gymmaxxed body, so i would focus there. Actually, there you can train both. Train your body, and make it your goal to be soical with some gym members as well. or join aclass at the gym. You get the idea.

I hope you can overcome your anxiousness/neuroticism and socialising limititations you described some time ago.
 
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Without pics of you this thread is useless, i dont care about what you looked as a kid, O'Pry looked like a chinese alien when he was a baby and now he is a male model.
 
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The question for me, with you is a litlle bit.

What shoud you work on though?
face&body or your lack of NT.
Probably both is the answer. But I never hear you talk about maxxing and training to become better socially. You do still have room for physical improvement also, I ain't never seen you had a gymmaxxed body, so i would focus there. Actually, there you can train both. Train your body, and make it your goal to be soical with some gym members as well. or join aclass at the gym. You get the idea.

I hope you can overcome your anxiousness/neuroticism and socialising limititations you described some time ago.
When the niggers open gym I'm going back to lifting natty. Besides that I only apply moisturizer every day on my acne scar ridden face and that's all I can looksmax.

Every time I went to gym my blood was boiling, if you seen girls there you'd be going crazy. FUUUUUUCCCCK
Without pics of you this thread is useless, i dont care about what you looked as a kid, O'Pry looked like a chinese alien when he was a baby and now he is a male model.
Look at Opry eyes. He already had hunter eyes. Features from childhood are going over to adolescence. I am still asymmetrical freak with round cuck eyes, not only that I ruined my skin with popping pimples.
 
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When the niggers open gym I'm going back to lifting natty.
Every time I went to gym my blood was boiling, if you seen girls there you'd be going crazy. FUUUUUUCCCCK
Good plan. Hit the gym bro. And use the boiling blood for the next push-ip session or whatever excercise is on the programm.

Besides that I only apply moisturizer every day on my acne scar ridden face and that's all I can looksmax.
WTF? Are you poor, or are you not even trying?
You need RetinA, so the get rid of acne and hopefully smoothen out some of the unevenness.

You don't even use products. To:
- skin tone maxx
- skin smoothness max (and collagen max)
- skin discolleration remove as much as possible.

For example. I don't even have acne, and pretty decent skinto start with.
And this is what i did the last months to get better skin:
  • retin-A (4x per week)
  • moisteriser (daily)
  • sunblock (daily)
  • rentinol + vitamine C serum (4x per week)
  • aloe vera gel for dark under eye skin
  • dermaroller (1x per month, should do more)
  • hylaronic acid filler, pneumatically with hylaron-pen (1 time so far)
  • Tanning water self tan, which worked great actually (1 time used so far)
  • just ordered a red light, that I hopefully recieve soon foor red light therapy
 
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get an e girl who loves you for who you are tbh. show her your face when she loves you, did this with 3 girls and succeeded 3 times. never had a chance irl. you can also say youre 18 tbh
this kinda works
One thing I can think of, rappermaxx. Be a SoundCloud rapper and get money and ACTUALLY sell drugs or card and do illegal cool shit. Get guns, tats, get a good looking grill too. Be a rapper and wear cool clothes.
 
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get an e girl who loves you for who you are tbh. show her your face when she loves you, did this with 3 girls and succeeded 3 times. never had a chance irl. you can also say youre 18 tbh
Meanwhile you were texting her she was getting her holes ravaged by Chad.
 
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Meanwhile you were texting her she was getting her holes ravaged by Chad.
bruh Im in a ltr with one girl and the other one has a bf and still sends me nudes after 2 years of barely contact. Im a literal e chad tbh ngl 😎
 
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bruh Im in a ltr with one girl and the other one has a bf and still sends me nudes after 2 years of barely contact. Im a literal e chad tbh ngl 😎
So if i understood well, you are in a LTR with a girl you dont know irl, right?
 
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Good plan. Hit the gym bro. And use the boiling blood for the next push-ip session or whatever excercise is on the programm.


WTF? Are you poor, or are you not even trying?
You need RetinA, so the get rid of acne and hopefully smoothen out some of the unevenness.

You don't even use products. To:
- skin tone maxx
- skin smoothness max (and collagen max)
- skin discolleration remove as much as possible.

For example. I don't even have acne, and pretty decent skinto start with.
And this is what i did the last months to get better skin:
  • retin-A (4x per week)
  • moisteriser (daily)
  • sunblock (daily)
  • rentinol + vitamine C serum (4x per week)
  • aloe vera gel for dark under eye skin
  • dermaroller (1x per month, should do more)
  • hylaronic acid filler, pneumatically with hylaron-pen (1 time so far)
  • Tanning water self tan, which worked great actually (1 time used so far)
  • just ordered a red light, that I hopefully recieve soon foor red light therapy
If I get work now I'd be making 500 euro a month, not 1.5k like in some civilized countries
this kinda works
One thing I can think of, rappermaxx. Be a SoundCloud rapper and get money and ACTUALLY sell drugs or card and do illegal cool shit. Get guns, tats, get a good looking grill too. Be a rapper and wear cool clothes.
I hate rappers unless it's old school raps.
 
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So if i understood well, you are in a LTR with a girl you dont know irl, right?
met her online first and when she told me that she really loves me even though she doesnt know how I look like, I met up with her
 
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met her online first and when she told me that she really loves me even though she doesnt know how I look like, I met up with her
What happened after that?
 
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Post face
 
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If I get work now I'd be making 500 euro a month, not 1.5k like in some civilized countries

I hate rappers unless it's old school raps.
im deadass, making money through illegal means and just being a low inhib low IQ acting badass can get some trashy kind of girls interested in you, the wannabe black ones
 
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True love doesn't exist. You either get a chick who is 2/10 and worships you, or a decent looking one who will give you trouble 24/7. Shit tests, chatting with male friends, going clubbing, getting into arguments... it's not worth it. Women aren't worth it if you're not a model Chad. They are a pain in the ass. It's not like in the movies.
 
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Maybe you are overexaggerating yourself. Leave the ratios and shits like midface and stuff, if you have any visible flaws to a average person like a really bad nose or something fix it..if not don't bother. Go to the gym and try to get some lean musle and try to be athletic. Now date a girl of your own league and be happy with her. Get a good haircut and groommaxx yourself. Don't compare yourself to male models or whatsoever because i think that's the reason you feel ugly. Don't worry these guys are 1 in a million and they won't bother you in irl. Also go out there and create a social circle because at the end of the day looksmaxx buddy's can't help you irl. It's all up to you. Get a job and settle and live a happy life.. I guess 🤔
 
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Now date a girl of your own league and be happy with her.
I want my looksmatch but they already have sex with 5+ men at least by age of 20 or have requirements like good job, 184cm+, good face, be funny and NT.
 
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Over what are your failos?
 
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Just try to make connections
 
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Over what are your failos?
Acne scars
Recessed chin
Round mandible
Lack of angularity
Cuck narrow eyes
Narrow skull
Thin brows
Pale skin
Already NW0,5
Manlet
Dicklet
Skinnyfat
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I want my looksmatch but they already have sex with 5+ men at least by age of 20 or have requirements like good job, 184cm+, good face, be funny and NT.
So you want a virgin??
I know everybody wants a virgin.. Nobody wants a slut
But i don't know how can i help..
Pm me your pics bro then i will tell what you should do.. Trust me i will try my best suggestion bro
 
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Acne scars
Recessed chin
Round mandible
Lack of angularity
Cuck narrow eyes
Narrow skull
Thin brows
Pale skin
Already NW0,5
Manlet
Dicklet
Skinnyfat

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You can fix or at least improve all those things with money which I guess is a bit of a lifefuel
 
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So you want a virgin??
I know everybody wants a virgin.. Nobody wants a slut
But i don't know how can i help..
Pm me your pics bro then i will tell what you should do.. Trust me i will try my best suggestion bro
2 sex partners max and all in LTR. She must have no hookups or casual sex. I wont be a cuck I rather stay virgin.
 
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2 sex partners max and all in LTR. She must have no hookups or casual sex. I wont be a cuck I rather stay virgin.
You will get it...
Just get out of the basement and don't act like a psl autistic...
 
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