Recessed upper maxilla

[quindary]

Need some help! I had braces for a couple years so my lower maxilla seems fine but my palate is semi-narrow and my canine fossa are semi-recessed and my upper maxilla is flat as fuck like fully recessed. It’s the lowest point on my face. I’m wondering if paranasal implants or other surgery are the only solution for my maxilla and a palate expander for my palate.

 

[Sicilian Cyclops]

Infraorbital implants for flat upper maxxilla. make sure to expand your palate b4 getting any osteotomies or implants.

 

[quindary]

Is hardmaxxing really the only solution tho?

 

[blinemaxxer]

Is hardmaxxing really the only solution tho?

yes, what else do you expect

 

[moze]

Its over if you have recessed uppermaxilla.thats why sfs and downgrowncels with forward growth ascend the most with surgery

 

[quindary]

yes, what else do you expect

yeah I knew it

 

[quindary]

Its over if you have recessed uppermaxilla.thats why sfs and downgrowncels with forward growth ascend the most with surgery

Time to get implants

 

[moze]

Time to get implants

Only conservative infras implants work.cheek implants will always be a gamble

 

[quindary]

Only conservative infras implants work.cheek implants will always be a gamble

So that’s all I need to fix it?

 

[KabylMogz]

Need some help! I had braces for a couple years so my lower maxilla seems fine but my palate is semi-narrow and my canine fossa are semi-recessed and my upper maxilla is flat as fuck like fully recessed. It’s the lowest point on my face. I’m wondering if paranasal implants or other surgery are the only solution for my maxilla and a palate expander for my palate.

How old are you before trying any dumb things and thinking you will always be recessed. Just btw sometimes when you lack of testosterone or hormones you will be recessed in your puberty

 

[quindary]

How old are you before trying any dumb things and thinking you will always be recessed. Just btw sometimes when you lack of testosterone or hormones you will be recessed in your puberty

I’m 17 bro, might’ve missed the opportunity.

 

[Idonwannalivthatway]

How old are you before trying any dumb things and thinking you will always be recessed. Just btw sometimes when you lack of testosterone or hormones you will be recessed in your puberty

Testosterone doesn't move your maxilia jfl peak broscience.
Past age 12 your maxilia can't move btw

 

[shaggybaggy696]

Testosterone doesn't move your maxilia jfl peak broscience.
Past age 12 your maxilia can't move btw

false. https://www.sciencedirect.com/scien...rom 16 to 18,that of overall maxillary growth.

OP if you are young enough, you could try a facemask alongside HGH to increase bone malability.

 

[Idonwannalivthatway]

false. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0889540605800526#:~:text=Growth from 16 to 18,that of overall maxillary growth.

OP if you are young enough, you could try a facemask alongside HGH to increase bone malability.

do you read the studies you post? MAXILIA DOESN't CHANGE YES MANDIBLE BUT NOT MAXILIA.

 

[CookieGuy]

Its over if you have recessed uppermaxilla.thats why sfs and downgrowncels with forward growth ascend the most with surgery

I fit that description except my lower maxilla is recessed and not my upper

 

[shaggybaggy696]

do you read the studies you post? MAXILIA DOESN't CHANGE YES MANDIBLE BUT NOT MAXILIA.

"Growth from 16 to 18 years was greater than that from 18 to 20 years. Maxillary and mandibular growth were highly correlated at each age period. However, overall mandibular growth was approximately twice that of overall maxillary growth"

delete account out of shame

 

[Idonwannalivthatway]

I fit that description except my lower maxilla is recessed and not my upper

at least it's fixable with surgery. Upper isn't unless you get LEFORT 3

 

[greycel]

Its over if you have recessed uppermaxilla.thats why sfs and downgrowncels with forward growth ascend the most with surgery

Downgrown people have recessed uppermaxillas too

 

[Idonwannalivthatway]

"Growth from 16 to 18 years was greater than that from 18 to 20 years. Maxillary and mandibular growth were highly correlated at each age period. However, overall mandibular growth was approximately twice that of overall maxillary growth"

delete account out of shame

Below sea level IQ. Growth doesn't mean CCW rotation dumbass

 

[CookieGuy]

Downgrown people have recessed uppermaxillas too
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That’s severe downgrowth. If you have good zygos and touching the upper part of your face doesn’t feel like jello then you aren’t recessed upper maxilla

 

[shaggybaggy696]

Below sea level IQ. Growth doesn't mean CCW rotation dumbass

ccw rotation is just a surgical term, the maxilla cant grow upwards, only forwards and downwards.
mirin Enthusiasm though.

 

[greycel]

That’s severe downgrowth. If you have good zygos and touching the upper part of your face doesn’t feel like jello then you aren’t recessed upper maxilla

It doesn't work like that
Downgrowth works in conjunction with making the maxilla flatter, causing recession of the upper maxilla and a Negative Orbital Vector

You only didnt reach your genetic limit if you had braces with elastics or Orthodontics
Anybody else considering Bimax is not thinking it through properly. This is a surgery to correct bite, and malformed skeletal formation if you had Orthodontics

Of course it doesn't hold a candle to natural craniofacial development, but at least it ameliorates any current issues as a result of unideal Teeth during formative years

 

[CookieGuy]

It doesn't work like that
Downgrowth works in conjunction with making the maxilla flatter, causing recession of the upper maxilla and a Negative Orbital Vector

You only didnt reach your genetic limit if you had braces with elastics or Orthodontics
Anybody else considering Bimax is not thinking it through properly. This is a surgery to correct bite, and malformed skeletal formation if you had Orthodontics

Of course it doesn't hold a candle to natural craniofacial development, but at least it ameliorates any current issues as a result of unideal Teeth during formative years

My orbital vector is not negative and I have wide zygos and maxilla yet my lower portion and mandible seem to be recessed. I’ve been told I have slight downgrowth

 

[greycel]

My orbital vector is not negative and I have wide zygos and maxilla yet my lower portion and mandible seem to be recessed. I’ve been told I have slight downgrowth

It's likely genetic then
Find a girl with good mandible length for your children
Also are you sure you aren't confusing mandible recession with chin recession

How are you planning to fix your isse? A BSSO?

 

[CookieGuy]

It's likely genetic then
Find a girl with good mandible length for your children
Also are you sure you aren't confusing mandible recession with chin recession

How are you planning to fix your isse? A BSSO?

My chin is recessed. My mandible might not be recessed tho

 

[CookieGuy]

It's likely genetic then
Find a girl with good mandible length for your children
Also are you sure you aren't confusing mandible recession with chin recession

How are you planning to fix your isse? A BSSO?

Good old Trimax cuz I have SFS

 

[greycel]

Good old Trimax cuz I have SFS

Yeah so people with SFS have developed upper maxillas
You will likely benefit a lot from Trimax and won't need further surgeries

My chin is recessed. My mandible might not be recessed tho

Look into Genios honestly
You might be able to add vertical height to your face with a simple genio

 

[CookieGuy]

Yeah so people with SFS have developed upper maxillas
You will likely benefit a lot from Trimax and won't need further surgeries


Look into Genios honestly
You might be able to add vertical height to your face with a simple genio

I want to make my lower maxilla more forward my grown (lefort 1 area)

 

[CookieGuy]

Yeah so people with SFS have developed upper maxillas
You will likely benefit a lot from Trimax and won't need further surgeries


Look into Genios honestly
You might be able to add vertical height to your face with a simple genio

I was thinking of implants 2 to make my jaw larger. Maybe Supras and Infras too?

 

[greycel]

I was thinking of implants 2 to make my jaw larger. Maybe Supras and Infras too?

Stasy away from Supras, they are very risky and not worth reward/risk
Infras aren't needed. Even for mild infra recession (that I doubt you have), most would benefit from soft tissue augmentation
Most of the eye area's appeal comes from the soft pads

To make jaw larger, it might work, but I'd say to be conservative with jaw implants. Focus more on shape than size

 

[moze]

It doesn't work like that
Downgrowth works in conjunction with making the maxilla flatter, causing recession of the upper maxilla and a Negative Orbital Vector

You only didnt reach your genetic limit if you had braces with elastics or Orthodontics
Anybody else considering Bimax is not thinking it through properly. This is a surgery to correct bite, and malformed skeletal formation if you had Orthodontics

Of course it doesn't hold a candle to natural craniofacial development, but at least it ameliorates any current issues as a result of unideal Teeth during formative years

My zygos are forward grown but also downward.i have that balloon face.is it because my mandible is recessed compared to maxila?

 

[greycel]

My zygos are forward grown but also downward.i have that balloon face.is it because my mandible is recessed compared to maxila?

It's because of insufficient jaw width likely with good zygo projection. So they are on opposite extgremes
Out of curiosity does your mum have good zygo projection too?

 

[moze]

It's because of insufficient jaw width likely with good zygo projection. So they are on opposite extgremes
Out of curiosity does your mum have good zygo projection too?

Yea my mum have good zygo projection
So should i do bimax or jaw implants?

 

[greycel]

Yea my mum have good zygo projection
So should i do bimax or jaw implants?

I can't tell without seeing your side

 

[moze]

I can't tell without seeing your side

Bro what is your opinion about upcoming facegenics facemask which can move maxilla both up and forwards

 

[greycel]

Bro what is your opinion about upcoming facegenics facemask which can move maxilla both up and forwards

I'm interested
Hopefully it won't be similar to the N2 fiasco

 

[moze]

I'm interested
Hopefully it won't be similar to the N2 fiasco

https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/02/0a/22/910df53838a029/WO2020014648A9.pdf

I dont think it will be like n2 coz they are trying it now and there will be an update soon.if it works its a lifefuel for many people

 

[KabylMogz]

Testosterone doesn't move your maxilia jfl peak broscience.
Past age 12 your maxilia can't move btw

I moved mm of my maxilla already when I'm 17. Being recessed is not only because of the position of your maxilla, but also because of bone mass jfl + never talk again.

 

[Munter]

How old are you before trying any dumb things and thinking you will always be recessed. Just btw sometimes when you lack of testosterone or hormones you will be recessed in your puberty

Testosterone doesn’t affect maxilla much… look at Russians most have recessed maxilla’s yet have the highest testosterone

 

[KabylMogz]

Testosterone doesn’t affect maxilla much… look at Russians most have recessed maxilla’s yet have the highest testosterone

Of course it changes the maxilla, it changes the shape and the bone mass.

 

[gravlek]

LEFORT 2

 

[CookieGuy]

Infraorbital implants for flat upper maxxilla. make sure to expand your palate b4 getting any osteotomies or implants.

Why need to expand palate

 

[idescended]

I'm interested
Hopefully it won't be similar to the N2 fiasco

Can you help me out with my plan in pm’s, I think am getting fucked by the surgeon (I can’t pm)

 

[Munter]

Of course it changes the maxilla, it changes the shape and the bone mass.

Well ofc, but it’s more of things like posture/ genetics and how u breathe… my testosterone is super high im developed very good… but my maxilla is recessed