Redditor goes from recessed to recessed after jaw surgery (underbite look to overbite look)

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An underbite does not mean that you need your lower jaw moved back.
 
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This is why I will cope with genio+chin wing
 
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Number 1 rule of underbite surgery: Do not set back the lower jaw if you're white
 
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Damn he descended hard. He looks way better in the before photo despite having an underbite.
 
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Damn he descended hard. He looks way better in the before photo despite having an underbite.
I would go er on the surgeon ngl
 
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just move your lower jaw back when you're already recessed theory
 
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An underbite does not mean that you need your lower jaw moved back.

Nah, no problem...

Now he can concentrate on developing his personality, and taking showers... :feelshehe:
 
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Why do you need a chin wing? Like what specific failo are you addressing with it.
Im not really recessed recessed, but my chin is somewhat weak/narrow. Not incel tear, but could definetely be better. Need mpre horizontal height and a lil more projection. If I pair that with jaw implants/fillers, my lower third should be solid
 
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Nah, no problem...

Now he can concentrate on developing his personality, and taking showers... :feelshehe:
I think cold showers will ascend me ngl. That and escorts
 
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An underbite does not mean that you need your lower jaw moved back.

These blue pilled, non-European surgeons are the only options if youre being covered by insurance, and look at the job they do. They make you wait 2 years + put braces on here in Canada and have 0 care for aesthetics, NONE. Not for bimax, but I had a $350 consult with an oral surgeon locally that my orthodontist recommended me for, just for buddy to tell me he doesnt recommend genioplasty, but if I really want to he can make a 5-6 mm horizontal movement and thats all. Mfer I would've just got a chin implant if thats the case. Do a virtual consult with a guy who actually cares for aesthetics and is highly rated for genioplasties and he agrees to 12mm horizontal movement and 3 mm vertical no problem. Only inconvenience is having to fly down and staying in a hotel.
 
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Im not really recessed recessed, but my chin is somewhat weak/narrow. Not incel tear, but could definetely be better. Need mpre horizontal height and a lil more projection. If I pair that with jaw implants/fillers, my lower third should be solid
Do you mean vertical height? How many mm movements are you getting without the chin wing?
 
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Do you mean vertical height? How many mm movements are you getting without the chin wing?
I want more vertical height and too make it wider. I am saving up rn and will have the money after my internship this summer so I havent gone into complete detail yet
 
lowers gonial angle and more bigonial width
 
upturned nose + no chin. what a shit result. that surgeon should quit his job.
 
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bluepilled surgeon
 
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Imagine setting thousands of dollars on fire
 
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This is like a war crime. There are thousands of doctors around the world who do this shit and get away with it, it's fucking criminal.
 
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I had one consult with a bluepilled animal of a surgeon and it made me disregard them completely. You have to find an aesthetics focused surgeon
 
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whoops, should have gone to Alfaro
 
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Holy shit I reversed the before/after at first and was thinking he turned out okay... Painful. And it's not like he was trying to do something beneficial and the surgeon fucked it up, he just paid thousands of dollars for someone to give him an incel chin.
 
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All of the comments: IT'S JUST SWELLING

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This legit ruined my week and it didn't even happen to me, that's how bad it is
 
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An underbite does not mean that you need your lower jaw moved back.

This is why u need to have some knowledge about the subject yourself and not put 100% trust in the surgeon.
 
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He looks better
That doesnt change that he went from recessed to recessed. He will look less recessed yeah if his upper lip does infact become less forward due to swelling reduction but the point is still that he went from recessed to recessed, like if you are getting jaw surgery why not just become not recessed.
 
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Not from the front and if thats what u think, that doesnt change that he went from recessed to recessed
Yes from the front, he doesn't look like an acromegaly patient.
 
It's a good result. He just needs a genioplasty now. He looked deformed and retarded at first, now he looks like a cuck, but if he moves his chin forward he will look normal.

Trust me.
 
These blue pilled, non-European surgeons are the only options if youre being covered by insurance, and look at the job they do. They make you wait 2 years + put braces on here in Canada and have 0 care for aesthetics, NONE. Not for bimax, but I had a $350 consult with an oral surgeon locally that my orthodontist recommended me for, just for buddy to tell me he doesnt recommend genioplasty, but if I really want to he can make a 5-6 mm horizontal movement and thats all. Mfer I would've just got a chin implant if thats the case. Do a virtual consult with a guy who actually cares for aesthetics and is highly rated for genioplasties and he agrees to 12mm horizontal movement and 3 mm vertical no problem. Only inconvenience is having to fly down and staying in a hotel.

Why are EU surgeons so blackpilled and aware of lookism while US/Canada surgeons are retarded bluepilled npcs?
 
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wouldn't it have been better in this case to simply move the upper jaw forward and adapt the occlusion?
 
wouldn't it have been better in this case to simply move the upper jaw forward and adapt the occlusion?
It would have been better to bring upper forward, then rotate both jaws ccw so chin comes forward then fix occlusion with orthodontics and he wouldnt be recessed anymore yeah
 
I wouldn't just get my money back, I would the surgeon in the head if he did this to me
 
It's a good result. He just needs a genioplasty now. He looked deformed and retarded at first, now he looks like a cuck, but if he moves his chin forward he will look normal.

Trust me.
Genioplasty is not for people that are recessed, just a small/short chin. Imagine a chin poking out of this bimax patients jaw. This is exactly how it will look (guy on the left).
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Why are EU surgeons so blackpilled and aware of lookism while US/Canada surgeons are retarded bluepilled npcs?
Also why many on this forum dont understand how this stuff works bro. I've spoken to multiple oral surgeons for genio, and also asked questions about jaw surgery. You cant go to your local oral surgeon and talk about aesthetics, thats not their job. You can point things out you'd like to address to some extent, but they only make huge differences in attractiveness if you were already recessed to the point where you dont even look human. Theyre being paid by insurance to fix functional issues, cosmetic jaw surgery is so rare in North America + I couldn't even imagine the cost bc insurance isn't covering that. I live in a major city and there's not one cosmetic jaw surgeon so maybe this is different for others. In my province, the insurer chooses your surgeon as well. Having a fucked up jaw in Canada must be hell, I genuinely feel for anyone just trying to look normal (like this guy) and our shit system screws them. I hope USA is better but im not sure.
 
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whoops, should have gone to Alfaro
That would financially cripple the average person bro. Most jaw surgery patients wouldn't even get it if not for insurance coverage, they dont know how much this stuff matters.
 
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That would financially cripple the average person bro. Most jaw surgery patients wouldn't even get it if not for insurance coverage, they dont know how much this stuff matters.
I meant it figuratively.
 
I had one consult with a bluepilled animal of a surgeon and it made me disregard them completely. You have to find an aesthetics focused surgeon
How did you know he was bluepilled? How do I identify/distinguish a bluepilled from a blackpilled surgeon (just want to know for the future)?
 
How did you know he was bluepilled? How do I identify/distinguish a bluepilled from a blackpilled surgeon (just want to know for the future)?
He wanted me to get extractions, he told me we needed to pull out 6 teeth which is insane.
 
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Some niggas are just not meant to win

although he's tatted up so he probably slays mtbs
 
looks like rex orange county swallowed a bee
 


An underbite does not mean that you need your lower jaw moved back.

Even from the before it’s quite noticeable his chin is very lacking, even if his bite is better now he should have consulted for an implant or chin wing
 
Also why many on this forum dont understand how this stuff works bro. I've spoken to multiple oral surgeons for genio, and also asked questions about jaw surgery. You cant go to your local oral surgeon and talk about aesthetics, thats not their job. You can point things out you'd like to address to some extent, but they only make huge differences in attractiveness if you were already recessed to the point where you dont even look human. Theyre being paid by insurance to fix functional issues, cosmetic jaw surgery is so rare in North America + I couldn't even imagine the cost bc insurance isn't covering that. I live in a major city and there's not one cosmetic jaw surgeon so maybe this is different for others. In my province, the insurer chooses your surgeon as well. Having a fucked up jaw in Canada must be hell, I genuinely feel for anyone just trying to look normal (like this guy) and our shit system screws them. I hope USA is better but im not sure.
This is cope. First surgeon I was referred to started talking about genio and told me my nose was big from the side without me even mentioning one of those things.
 
This is cope. First surgeon I was referred to started talking about genio and told me my nose was big from the side without me even mentioning one of those things.
That was my personal experience, my main point I was trying to get across is that jaw surgeons in North America care mainly about fixing the jaws functional use which doesnt always fix the aesthetic like the guy pictured above.
 
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How did you know he was bluepilled? How do I identify/distinguish a bluepilled from a blackpilled surgeon (just want to know for the future)?
A blue pilled surgeon downplays or completely disregard your aesthetic concerns. A good black pilled surgeon will even point things out that you didn't notice and provides potential solutions to your concerns rather than telling you not to worry about them.
 
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Jfc dudes mid face got twice as long in the after..

Even a foid is saying this holy blackpill

Mid face pill is true and this girls comment confirms it
 

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