Regret running masteron

[halloweed]

I used it for 4 months
Wrecked collagen
Made me look older, people commented on this and my teacher said I look 30.
Hair started thinning
Thankfully reversed this, I attribute the come back from using oral min and tretinoin.
But on the plus side I looked more vascular and somewhat dimorphic.
This also controlled my bloat from testosterone usage.


Overall rating:
3/10 for face
6/10 for body
8/10 for wellbeing

@Hexmask @Jonas2k7 @sb23 @TitusA @roider122

 

[Deleted member 44380]

doesnt being dependant on min bother you

 

[chadisbeingmade]

Masteron is poison in a vial. JFL at anyone that runs that shit for literally temporary cosmetic benefit of looking leaner, while fucking up their skin and hair.

DHT compounds are not DHT. They are derivatives meaning they are chemically similar to DHT but are not the same and do not confer the same effects or androgenicity that DHT does. All DHT compounds have unique pharmacological profiles and pharmacokinetics.

I laugh too hard when someone says they will DHT max then blast masteron thinking its DHT.

 

[roider122]

only test is way

-no organ damage
-no skin damage at all
-very minimal hair damage

 

[TitusA]

I used it for 4 months
Wrecked collagen
Made me look older, people commented on this and my teacher said I look 30.
Hair started thinning
Thankfully reversed this, I attribute the come back from using oral min and tretinoin.
But on the plus side I looked more vascular and somewhat dimorphic.
This also controlled my bloat from testosterone usage.


Overall rating:
3/10 for face
6/10 for body
8/10 for wellbeing

@Hexmask @Jonas2k7 @sb23 @TitusA @roider122

Dhts and strong androgens have that effect they cause hair thinning and make the skin look aged. I was lucky after the anadrol tren cycle i lost hair because it made me stop running big cycles. So tbh see it as a blessing in disguise.

Also u would regain more using fit or dut. Dut alone restored my hair after tren and anadrol wrecked it.

Also DHT having this effect is the reason I believe 5ars with test are the way to stay looking young. Maintain hair and keep skin looking young because of no dht and estrogen on the higher end of the reference range. Plus the test keeps your body looking good and you dont get that sloppy look allot of men get in their 30s regardless of if they workout.

Masteron is shit apart from for precontest looking dry it has no use for the average looksmaxxer who wants to gain some muscle.

 

[roider122]

i still didnt restore my hair thinning and still im losing hair.

started fin+ spray minox+tret while on 150 test for 3 month
will this recover my thinning in 3 month or less? im losing hair but hairline same @TitusA

 

[Hexmask]

only test is way

-no organ damage
-no skin damage at all
-very minimal hair damage

test can definitely hurt collagen which is why you gotta take measures. I made the mistake of doing an actual cycle last summer it was 500 test some Anavar etc, and it aged me quick but thanks to GHK-cu I look back to normal. I would literally make love to that peptide if I could.

 

[Hexmask]

Yeah mast is dog shit if you care about looks. Only reasonable time to use it is if you don’t care or your a fitness influencer and need to be dick skin peeled to pull views.

 

[Johanjohan]

Why even take steroids

Most girls are dating fat normies

 

[roider122]

test can definitely hurt collagen which is why you gotta take measures. I made the mistake of doing an actual cycle last summer it was 500 test some Anavar etc, and it aged me quick but thanks to GHK-cu I look back to normal. I would literally make love to that peptide if I could.

does hgh make ghk-cu's reverse age purpose?

 

[Hexmask]

does hgh make ghk-cu's reverse age purpose?

Not sure what ur asking tbh g. But I should add it’s all dose dependent with test. If you run it in TRT ranges it shouldn’t really hurt your skin in theory. Some people say they look younger but that’s probably hypogonadal men who mainly notice it.

 

[roider122]

Not sure what ur asking tbh g. But I should add it’s all dose dependent with test. If you run it in TRT ranges it shouldn’t really hurt your skin in theory. Some people say they look younger but that’s probably hypogonadal men who mainly notice it.

i mean u reversed it with ghk-cu
can i get same effect with human growth hormone

 

[Hexmask]

i mean u reversed it with ghk-cu
can i get same effect with human growth hormone

Ohh I see what you’re saying. Well typically with HRT doses of HGH I’ve heard it has skin tightening effects but it’s gonna be 10x more expensive, more of a bitch with timing it pinning. I’d rather just use a peptide that even women use that I know is safe.

 

[Evgeniy291]

I made the mistake of doing an actual cycle last summer it was 500 test some Anavar etc, and it aged me quick but thanks to GHK-cu I look back to normal. I would literally make love to that peptide if I could.

did it? Anavar should arrive in a week and doing 500mg test 30mg var. how to prevent aging?

 

[Hexmask]

did it? Anavar should arrive in a week and doing 500mg test 30mg var. how to prevent aging?

Rip. Lol.

Best way to prevent it is dutasteride + microneedling + GHK-cu

 

[MyDreamIsToBe183CM]

did it? Anavar should arrive in a week and doing 500mg test 30mg var. how to prevent aging?

no

 

[MyDreamIsToBe183CM]

Rip. Lol.

Best way to prevent it is dutasteride + microneedling + GHK-cu

clavicular looks like 25-30 at 19

 

[Hexmask]

clavicular looks like 25-30 at 19

Yeah I know. It’s scary shit. I’m glad I didn’t go too far or long with roiding. I think his test mast and RAD usage at such young ages is what cucked him.

 

[Evgeniy291]

Rip. Lol.

Best way to prevent it is dutasteride + microneedling + GHK-cu

Actually got finasteride with it as I’ve heard dunasteride will shred all of my hair, should be enough?
Microneedling will do

GHK-cu will order, what dosage and how often to take? Also fine if I start in the middle of a cycle? I cba waiting for more

no

no what

 

[MyDreamIsToBe183CM]

Yeah I know. It’s scary shit. I’m glad I didn’t go too far or long with roiding. I think his test mast and RAD usage at such young ages is what cucked him.

i heard he started roiding at 15...

holy shiettttt. im only on hgh for now

 

[Evgeniy291]

Yeah I know. It’s scary shit. I’m glad I didn’t go too far or long with roiding. I think his test mast and RAD usage at such young ages is what cucked him.

He’s 19? Holy fuck I saw his pics thought he’s 25

 

[MyDreamIsToBe183CM]

He’s 19? Holy fuck I saw his pics thought he’s 25

atleast it ascended him though, he was a fucking boneless cuck before

 

[Hexmask]

Actually got finasteride with it as I’ve heard dunasteride will shred all of my hair, should be enough?
Microneedling will do

GHK-cu will order, what dosage and how often to take? Also fine if I start in the middle of a cycle? I cba waiting for more

no what

5mg pinned subQ daily. You can use it anytime. Use it during or after your done as a recovery phase for your collagen. Prevention is typically best though.

 

[1xc6]

i still didnt restore my hair thinning and still im losing hair.

started fin+ spray minox+tret while on 150 test for 3 month
will this recover my thinning in 3 month or less? im losing hair but hairline same @TitusA

300 test
ghk-cu
25 aromasin eod

50mcg igf1 des 2x a day thogts?

 

[roider122]

300 test
ghk-cu
25 aromasin eod

50mcg igf1 des 2x a day thogts?

aromasin is tren tier hair fucker

 

[1xc6]

aromasin is tren tier hair fucker

ok but then what abt growth plate closure....

 

[TitusA]

Yeah I know. It’s scary shit. I’m glad I didn’t go too far or long with roiding. I think his test mast and RAD usage at such young ages is what cucked him.

Nah it doesnt age you anything but short term while on though. Allot of the aging is just water retention that disappears after. People think mi 25 at 29 and I blasted way higher amounts than most of the forum + used a ton of recreational drugs.

It shouldn't age you long term unless you are taking ifbb pro amounts tbh. Also I feel the stimulant abuse and tanning allot of bodybuilders/fitness guys do is another factor in premature aging.

It will age very young guys (talking below the age of 23) just because it speeds up puberty and the physical changes that take place but it shouldn't make you look older thn your mid 20s long term unless you have taken ungodly amounts or are on a cycle.

Look at vigorous steves vids he does transformation vids going on cycle to off everything and keep in mind hes 40 years old. He does not look older thn 40 when off. While on he looks fkd up.

 

[Evgeniy291]

atleast it ascended him though, he was a fucking boneless cuck before

How old was he

5mg pinned subQ daily. You can use it anytime. Use it during or after your done as a recovery phase for your collagen. Prevention is typically best though.

can you give me a source? I can’t find it anywhere, my Indiamart plug doesn’t sell peptides as well

 

[Evgeniy291]

It will age very young guys (talking below the age of 23) just because it speeds up puberty and the physical changes that take place but it shouldn't make you look older thn your mid 20s long term unless you have taken ungodly amounts or are on a cycle.

Yall are making me think of changing my mind on roids

Maybe I should do a lower dose cycle? Instead of 500, 250. I don’t wanna look like an unc at 18

 

[TitusA]

Yall are making me think of changing my mind on roids

Maybe I should do a lower dose cycle? Instead of 500, 250. I don’t wanna look like an unc at 18

Tf is an unc to you lol. Assuming you keep your hair you will not look old after running 500 test thats extremely mild. As I said its the DHTS and strong androgens (tren anadrol) that cause the real aging on cycle. Assuming u minimise bloat u wont look so bad on 500 test and when you go down to 150-200 after to cruise you will hold the extra muscle tissue and look way better.

I told you look at vigorous steve on and off. I will link vids. Theirs a better comparison vid/photo montage he made but i cba looking for it also like I said this guy is 40 he is not going to look 20.

If 25 is an unc to you its over for me at 29

On


Off

 

[Evgeniy291]

Tf is an unc to you lol. Assuming you keep your hair you will not look old after running 500 test thats extremely mild. As I said its the DHTS and strong androgens (tren anadrol) that cause the real aging on cycle. Assuming u minimise bloat u wont look so bad on 500 test and when you go down to 150-200 after to cruise you will hold the extra muscle tissue and look way better.

I told you look at vigorous steve on and off. I will link vids. Theirs a better comparison vid/photo montage he made but i cba looking for it also like I said this guy is 40 he is not going to look 20.

If 25 is an unc to you its over for me at 29

On


Off

25 is an unc to me I’m 18

Will watch vids.
Also cruising is doing a normal cycle, and then same amount but on lower doses to maintain?

And thanks unc

 

[SlayerJonas]

Masteron is poison in a vial. JFL at anyone that runs that shit for literally temporary cosmetic benefit of looking leaner, while fucking up their skin and hair.

DHT compounds are not DHT. They are derivatives meaning they are chemically similar to DHT but are not the same and do not confer the same effects or androgenicity that DHT does. All DHT compounds have unique pharmacological profiles and pharmacokinetics.

I laugh too hard when someone says they will DHT max then blast masteron thinking its DHT.

Bro please if you dont know your shit dont act like u do

Please

No front nigga we've been talking in PMs but that really gets on my nerves

 

[TitusA]

25 is an unc to me I’m 18

Will watch vids.
Also cruising is doing a normal cycle, and then same amount but on lower doses to maintain?

And thanks unc

cruising could be 300, 200, 150 depending on how much muscle u need to maintain. For most people on here your gonna be cruising at high trt dose 170 or so but could go to 00. While a pro bber who has to hold a ton of muscle tissue will need to cruise on 300.

 

[Evgeniy291]

cruising could be 300, 200, 150 depending on how much muscle u need to maintain. For most people on here your gonna be cruising at high trt dose 170 or so but could go to 00. While a pro bber who has to hold a ton of muscle tissue will need to cruise on 300.

Actually got 3 boxes of 250mg.
That’s like 10 weeks of 500mg
And cruising 250mg for 10 weeks would be fine?

Or I could buy 150mg test and use that instead?

 

[SlayerJonas]

I used it for 4 months
Wrecked collagen
Made me look older, people commented on this and my teacher said I look 30.
Hair started thinning
Thankfully reversed this, I attribute the come back from using oral min and tretinoin.
But on the plus side I looked more vascular and somewhat dimorphic.
This also controlled my bloat from testosterone usage.


Overall rating:
3/10 for face
6/10 for body
8/10 for wellbeing

@Hexmask @Jonas2k7 @sb23 @TitusA @roider122

I agree. Overall androgenic compounds shouldn't be used if you don't have a specific reason to use them.

High anabolic, low androgenic >>>

People use androgenic compounds to cope with the idea that they will see facial bone gains / dick / frame by using them.

This would at best only work out for those during early to mid puberty, if it even does anything in the first place considering the genetical limitations regarding the development of certain tissues. If using AAS does help, I would argue that it only helps as in fixing the deficiency of androgens in the moment thus meaning that TRT + some slightly androgenic compound in low dosages would be more than enough.

General rule: If over 15/16 -> Dont use androgenic compounds

 

[lestoa]

I used it for 4 months
Wrecked collagen
Made me look older, people commented on this and my teacher said I look 30.
Hair started thinning
Thankfully reversed this, I attribute the come back from using oral min and tretinoin.
But on the plus side I looked more vascular and somewhat dimorphic.
This also controlled my bloat from testosterone usage.


Overall rating:
3/10 for face
6/10 for body
8/10 for wellbeing

@Hexmask @Jonas2k7 @sb23 @TitusA @roider122

whats your current cycle rn ?

 

[TitusA]

Actually got 3 boxes of 250mg.
That’s like 10 weeks of 500mg
And cruising 250mg for 10 weeks would be fine?

Or I could buy 150mg test and use that instead?

I wouldnt do either Id make the decision to stay on long term or not do it at all. cycling is frankly a waste of time and everyone ive seen irl who did it just lost the muscle after.

I agree. Overall androgenic compounds shouldn't be used if you don't have a specific reason to use them.

High anabolic, low androgenic >>>

People use androgenic compounds to cope with the idea that they will see facial bone gains / dick / frame by using them.

This would at best only work out for those during early to mid puberty, if it even does anything in the first place considering the genetical limitations regarding the development of certain tissues. If using AAS does help, I would argue that it only helps as in fixing the deficiency of androgens in the moment thus meaning that TRT + some slightly androgenic compound in low dosages would be more than enough.

General rule: If over 15/16 -> Dont use androgenic compounds

Total bshit they will age you while on but not while off. Also im proof that I got facial changes later I have an identical twin as comparison and facially my bones especially jaw,cheekbones and browbone are way more developed. The male face changes untill early-mid 20s. 18 year olds do not look like adults facially lol they look like little bitches in the face still because the bones havent filled out properly yet.

Nothing wrong with using them but id say strictly low dose for hair loss reasons. I got lucky and blasted a bunch and was a good responder to dut so got away with it its not worth the risk for others and u can reach ur goal physique with just test and low-moderate doses anyway.

 

[SlayerJonas]

Total bshit they will age you while on but not while off.

Androgenic compounds nuke your skin and wreck your hair. Where did I say that it wasn't temporary? So you just said total bullshit to something I didn't even claim to say aha. I can already sense that this discussion isn't about what is true, but for your ego.

Also im proof that I got facial changes later I have an identical twin as comparison and facially my bones especially jaw,cheekbones and browbone are way more developed. The male face changes untill early-mid 20s. 18 year olds do not look like adults facially lol they look like little bitches in the face still because the bones havent filled out properly yet.

You didn't respond to my reply in the other thread. Also to this day you still didn't provide me with any examples.

Aren't you like in your 20s anyway?

When did you start roiding, this determines how credible your claims are. And what dosages were you running in your early cycles. Tell me all the details preferably.

Nothing wrong with using them but id say strictly low dose for hair loss reasons.

You do realize that if you want to achieve any good "androgenic gains" where you don't even see the effects on hair, why do you think it would reach your bones suddenly?? Also why use them if there are tons of better options??

I got lucky and blasted a bunch and was a good responder to dut so got away with it its not worth the risk for others and u can reach ur goal physique with just test and low-moderate doses anyway.

Yes obviously test + 5ARI is a better option, I guess we mean the same thing in the end you shouldn't have said bullshit to my reply. Low androgenic compounds just mog for achieving the goal physique.

 

[halloweed]

doesnt being dependant on min bother you

No the benefits are exponential.

 

[halloweed]

Masteron is poison in a vial. JFL at anyone that runs that shit for literally temporary cosmetic benefit of looking leaner, while fucking up their skin and hair.

DHT compounds are not DHT. They are derivatives meaning they are chemically similar to DHT but are not the same and do not confer the same effects or androgenicity that DHT does. All DHT compounds have unique pharmacological profiles and pharmacokinetics.

I laugh too hard when someone says they will DHT max then blast masteron thinking its DHT.

^^

 

[TitusA]

Androgenic compounds nuke your skin and wreck your hair. Where did I say that it wasn't temporary? So you just said total bullshit to something I didn't even claim to say aha. I can already sense that this discussion isn't about what is true, but for your ego.


You didn't respond to my reply in the other thread. Also to this day you still didn't provide me with any examples.

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Aren't you like in your 20s anyway?

When did you start roiding, this determines how credible your claims are. And what dosages were you running in your early cycles. Tell me all the details preferably.


You do realize that if you want to achieve any good "androgenic gains" where you don't even see the effects on hair, why do you think it would reach your bones suddenly?? Also why use them if there are tons of better options??

Yes obviously test + 5ARI is a better option, I guess we mean the same thing in the end you shouldn't have said bullshit to my reply. Low androgenic compounds just mog for achieving the goal physique.

At age 19. Well its dependant on how prone to hair loss you are. Obv if you run a little bit of test and get hair loss then you shouldnt run tren. Id ran test for years before getting hair loss from tren and anadrol.

In what way would this determine how credible my claims are? lol you have women boybuilders running the very high androgens with more masculine face thn most men. What reason would I ever have to lie when imm totally honest on here including how ridiculous my dosages where, how I got addicted to recreational drugs, how theirs some tranniess id fk. I couldn't care less how a bunch of you view me on here.

You are the guy with 4.3k posts in a year and a half so dont accuse me of being a forum fraud/somebody who gives a shit about this place. Id be way more active if I gaf.

 

[yannis]

Not sure what ur asking tbh g. But I should add it’s all dose dependent with test. If you run it in TRT ranges it shouldn’t really hurt your skin in theory. Some people say they look younger but that’s probably hypogonadal men who mainly notice it.

Going to do 400mg, what precautions to take in your opinion?

 

[halloweed]

Why even take steroids

Most girls are dating fat normies

Having a great physique is actually sexually dimorphic and attractive

Men's Bodily Attractiveness: Muscles as Fitness Indicators - PubMed

Bodily attractiveness is an important component of mate value. Musculature-a crucial component of men's bodily attractiveness-provides women with probabilistic information regarding a potential mate's quality. Overall musculature is comprised of several muscle groups, each of which varies in...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[kief]

I used it for 4 months
Wrecked collagen
Made me look older, people commented on this and my teacher said I look 30.
Hair started thinning
Thankfully reversed this, I attribute the come back from using oral min and tretinoin.
But on the plus side I looked more vascular and somewhat dimorphic.
This also controlled my bloat from testosterone usage.


Overall rating:
3/10 for face
6/10 for body
8/10 for wellbeing

@Hexmask @Jonas2k7 @sb23 @TitusA @roider122

Rehab made quite an extensive video on the exact problem your talking about


Also how much test are you on? @halloweed

 

[halloweed]

Bro please if you dont know your shit dont act like u do

Please

No front nigga we've been talking in PMs but that really gets on my nerves

@chadisbeingmade is right

 

[halloweed]

Rehab made quite an extensive video on the exact problem your talking about


Also how much test are you on? @halloweed

Yepp I’m on 500mg right now and feeling great

 

[halloweed]

whats your current cycle rn ?

250mg x 2 test e, 6.25mg aromasin 2 days after injection.

 

[lestoa]

Rehab made quite an extensive video on the exact problem your talking about


Also how much test are you on? @halloweed

Rehab room never heard about oral min and dht blockers

 

[lestoa]

250mg x 2 test e, 6.25mg aromasin 2 days after injection.

mirin

 

[SlayerJonas]

Masteron is poison in a vial. JFL at anyone that runs that shit for literally temporary cosmetic benefit of looking leaner, while fucking up their skin and hair.

DHT compounds are not DHT. They are derivatives meaning they are chemically similar to DHT but are not the same and do not confer the same effects or androgenicity that DHT does. All DHT compounds have unique pharmacological profiles and pharmacokinetics.

I laugh too hard when someone says they will DHT max then blast masteron thinking its DHT.

You understand that they are chemically different but you fail to interpret what that means now

Androgenic compounds depending on each compound exert most of the time stronger effects than DHT. We know that DHT is around 4 times stronger than DHT (but again 5ar is only in selective tissue making the endogenous produced DHT useless for bonemass/muscle building) and compounds like Mast do reach the bone and muscle tissue just like test would

now why wouldnt we use just test? test simply is = high anabolic, low androgenic

But we also see how test is good at increasing bone mass in studies though

the difference here between each compound is how they cause different genes in the nucleus to be expressed

This means DHT derivates like mast or other highly androgenic compounds like tren (19 nor derivate) would be good at achieving the (potential/in theory/speculated) bone mass gains

I would only recommend trying to achieve that type of androgenic facial bone growth with a lot of ancillaries to maintain the hair and skin just like it is

@20/04/2008 @Hexmask @sb23