Religioncels GTFIH. If god is real then why....

[NickerNationalist88]

If god is all powerful. He could create humans with all those attributes anyways and leave out evil.

True but what is life if it's not a huge fight. No matter who you are life is a fight. God made life a fight.

 

[Pendejo]

there is no paradox lmao

Allah lets some evil happen, it is the consequence of us having free will

our lives on this earth is a test to see someones true intentions. someone born into a millionaire family and a guy born in the slums of brazil are both equally as likely to do evil things regardless of their situation in life. (notice how i said evil things, not crimes)

life on this earth is a test to see how good of a person you are and if you deserve eternal paradise

JFL at your "paradox"

If he needs to test you then he is not all knowing.

JFL at your IQ.

 

[Deleted member 16854]

there is no paradox lmao

Allah lets some evil happen, it is the consequence of us having free will

our lives on this earth is a test to see someones true intentions. someone born into a millionaire family and a guy born in the slums of brazil are both equally as likely to do evil things regardless of their situation in life. (notice how i said evil things, not crimes)

life on this earth is a test to see how good of a person you are and if you deserve eternal paradise

JFL at your "paradox"

If god is all knowing and can see the future. Then why does he need to test us in the first place? Couldn't God have created a world with free will and no evil? JFL at your "Allah"

 

[Deleted member 16854]

You (and epicurius) assume that God has no place for evil in his plan. This is a classic "if God real then why bad thing happen". If there was one evil then people would obviously stray from God with no consequence. Maybe God created Satan and evil not to test us but to give us a reason to live. Evil gives you a reason to fight, to trust and God and to want more in life.

Couldn't God have gave us a reason to live, a purpose etc without evil?

 

[Deleted member 16854]

God doesn't know the future because its influenced by free will.. You are misinterpretation "god knows everything".. It means he has knowledge of everything in the universe..
And evil is caused by free will.. How can u have free will without good and evil lol. and disaster are a complicated thing..
You are also misinterpretation" he is not all powerful because he can't make a world with free will and no evil "
A world with free will and no evil is an oxymoron lol.. Its same as can god create a squared circle..
God can't do oxymorons.. Again u r misinterpreting" all powerful " all powerful means he can do everything which is logically possible

I mean technically god is literally the creator of all galaxies, universe's ever... He could create a world with free will but no evil. It might sound like an oxymoron in our human minds. But God can do anything. He can make things that don't make sense. Make sense right?

 

[whiteissuperior]

The western idea of god is confusing and probably wrong tbh. I think god exists but I don’t think he is the way westerners think. Don’t quote me cuz I have very strange spiritual ideas and I’m pretty unsure as to what I believe, but here’s a hint:

 

[Deleted member 16854]

the cookie jar example

lets say you know your kid will steal from the cookie jar. but obviously you will punish him if he will steal from it.

he steals from it and you punish him despite knowing he will steal from it. punishing the child is a logical response

same logic applies with god punishing people he knows will do bad things. humans have free will and can choose to do good or bad. god knowing what you will do doesn't affect anything at all

So let's say someone has antisocial disorder like psychopathy or sociopathy. Is good gonna throw him in eternal fire. He is only bad because if his genetic trait. What if someone has no understanding of god or morality because he grew up in the jungle and survived by stealing from other tribes and hunting. Would he burn in the lake of fire? I mean technically no one should go to hell. Because it's nature and nurture that create our understanding of morals. And how we turn out in life. So he can't blame us for being products if our genes and nurturing? So throwing us in eternal fire is justifiable?

 

[Ryan]

I mean technically god is literally the creator of all galaxies, universe's ever... He could create a world with free will but no evil. It might sound like an oxymoron in our human minds. But God can do anything. He can make things that don't make sense. Make sense right?

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[Ryan]

So let's say someone has antisocial disorder like psychopathy or sociopathy. Is good gonna throw him in eternal fire. He is only bad because if his genetic trait. What if someone has no understanding of god or morality because he grew up in the jungle and survived by stealing from other tribes and hunting. Would he burn in the lake of fire? I mean technically no one should go to hell. Because it's nature and nurture that create our understanding of morals. And how we turn out in life. So he can't blame us for being products if our genes and nurturing? So throwing us in eternal fire is justifiable?

only people who are sane will go to hell as a result of their actions and hell aint eternal.
Hell is is justice

 

[vanillaicecream]

only people who are sane will go to hell as a result of their actions and hell aint eternal

Lol this guy talks about "going to hell" and believes it's real and wants to be taken seriously. @JayAscension I would advise against engaging in any argument with these childish lunatics, it's not good for your mental sanity.

 

[Ryan]

Lol this guy talks about "going to hell" and believes it's real and wants to be taken seriously. @JayAscension I would advise against engaging in any argument with these childish lunatics, it's not good for your mental sanity.

@JayAscension tell this nega to fuck off... We were having a civil discussion

 

[vanillaicecream]

@JayAscension tell this nega to fuck off... We were having a civil discussion

Grow up haha. Listen to yourself.

 

[NickerNationalist88]

I mean technically god is literally the creator of all galaxies, universe's ever... He could create a world with free will but no evil. It might sound like an oxymoron in our human minds. But God can do anything. He can make things that don't make sense. Make sense right?

Yes it makes sense but evil isn't an objective thing. If no evil is an inevitable thing in our world. Even if God removed all evil then humans would still label something as evil