Reminder that you should never listen to normies who claim the gym doesn't attract girls

[twilight]

The reason it doesn't work for them is because they train like this

"Bro girls don't care about your gains do it for yourself! i only attract more dudes than girls now"

Gymcelling DOES work (provided you aren't sub5) but you need to train for the female gaze (water)

Forget heavy deadlifts, flat bench, and bb squats (incel lifts) and focus on heavy overhead press, weighted pull ups and incline presses to get the model tier aesthetic body women actually want

 

[Matthias8272]

I feel like it's the oppisote, blackpillers will tell you body means nothing and it's all face, while normies tell you to go to the gym and be confident

 

[StuffedFrog]

The reason it doesn't work for them is because they train like this

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"Bro girls don't care about your gains do it for yourself! i only attract more dudes than girls now"

Gymcelling DOES work (provided you aren't sub5) but you need to train for the female gaze (water)

Forget heavy deadlifts, flat bench, and bb squats (incel lifts) and focus on heavy overhead press, weighted pull ups and incline presses to get the model tier aesthetic body women actually want

nah i did deadlifts flat bench and barbell squats and still appeal to the female gaze in fact i only did those exercises for a vast majority of my training

 

[twilight]

I feel like it's the oppisote, blackpillers will tell you body means nothing and it's all face, while normies tell you to go to the gym and be confident

both are two sides of the same coin, low iq blackpillers think in black/white (only pure genetics matter) while normies think hard work matters more. But it's important to distinguish normies like the ones talked about in my post and redpillers who are the ones who say body matters more. The truth is in the middle of all these thoughts

 

[twilight]

nah i did deadlifts flat bench and barbell squats and still appeal to the female gaze in fact i only did those exercises for a vast majority of my training

you appeal to the female gaze because of your face, whether you do those exercises or not it doesn't matter.

 

[StuffedFrog]

you appeal to the female gaze because of your face, whether you do those exercises or not it doesn't matter.

https://i.looksmax.org/attachments/2022/05/2890363_2855670_20220425_044205_001.mp4

 

[andy9432]

Do horizontal behind neck resistance band shoulder press. As heavy shoulder presses will fuck up ur height. I went from 6'1 to 6'0 after heavy shoulderpressing session. Its the axial loading. And sure, u might get it back, but it takes more than just 1 day to regain that lost height.

 

[Matthias8272]

both are two sides of the same coin, low iq blackpillers think in black/white (only pure genetics matter) while normies think hard work matters more. But it's important to distinguish normies like the ones talked about in my post and redpillers who are the ones who say body matters more. The truth is in the middle of all these thoughts

If you need to distinguish a group of people instead of the overall population then I wouldn't define them as a normie, majority of people will tell you to go to the gym

 

[StuffedFrog]

the guy in the photo needs to cut

 

[ReadBooksEveryday]

I feel like it's the oppisote, blackpillers will tell you body means nothing and it's all face, while normies tell you to go to the gym and be confident

 

[twilight]

If you need to distinguish a group of people instead of the overall population then I wouldn't define them as a normie, majority of people will tell you to go to the gym

but again, they will say "do it for yourself because girls don't care about shallow things like muscles"

 

[Matthias8272]

but again, they will say "do it for yourself because girls don't care about shallow things like muscles"

Retracted opinon

 

[Mako]

I rather be muscular and ugly than be skinny and ugly

 

[Artemis]

I feel like it's the oppisote, blackpillers will tell you body means nothing and it's all face, while normies tell you to go to the gym and be confident

Yeah, @pashtun confused who said what

 

[AscensionMan98]

both are two sides of the same coin, low iq blackpillers think in black/white (only pure genetics matter) while normies think hard work matters more. But it's important to distinguish normies like the ones talked about in my post and redpillers who are the ones who say body matters more. The truth is in the middle of all these thoughts

Correct, no gym for the face

However for some men with below average faces, if they raid up and get a extremely good body they could get some bitches purely due to being an adonis. But the amount of steroids and needing good bodybuilding genetics , as well as hard work is a lot.

I also saw on bodybuilding forum, difficult to know if it was a larp or not , but some raided gymcel who claimed he had a very ugly face but good body said some bitches when he got to know them were allegedly down to fuck if he wore a mask. Apparently that made him depressed. I think it might have been a troll tbh but not sure.

 

[Matthias8272]

Actually I don't know if I agree after actually thinking about it, you do see people say that although you have figures like zyzz that are mainstream purely pushing aesthetics and when people ask for advice attracting girls lifting is mentioned on generic sites

 

[uns0l1cited]

Body helps a lot. The whole gymcel meme should be interpreted that if you're TOO subhuman it won't save you. Not that it can't help you, because it can.

 

[StuffedFrog]

sean noreiga one of the top powerlifters in the world

 

[uns0l1cited]

but again, they will say "do it for yourself because girls don't care about shallow things like muscles"

Anyone who say that is a total Chad because they would've never needed to work on themselves. Plenty of bluepillers support gymmaxxing.

 

[Mouthbreath]

Body helps a lot. The whole gymcel meme should be interpreted that if you're TOO subhuman it won't save you. Not that it can't help you, because it can.

Also you need to be lean which is what normies tend to forget

 

[StuffedFrog]

Also you need to be lean which is what normies tend to forget

cutting and bulking is a nightmare i got sick during my bulk and i lost alot of weight and wanted to die

 

[uns0l1cited]

Also you need to be lean which is what normies tend to forget

Leanmaxxing is law

 

[Artemis]

Correct, no gym for the face

However for some men with below average faces, if they raid up and get a extremely good body they could get some bitches purely due to being an adonis. But the amount of steroids and needing good bodybuilding genetics , as well as hard work is a lot.

I also saw on bodybuilding forum, difficult to know if it was a larp or not , but some raided gymcel who claimed he had a very ugly face but good body said some bitches when he got to know them were allegedly down to fuck if he wore a mask. Apparently that made him depressed. I think it might have been a troll tbh but not sure.

Well, very FEW people are SO ugly that a woman would ask you to wear a mask really... That is some next level of subhumanity, like sub-3 or sth

Even the ugliest of faces are actually not that repulsive. You need to be severely deformed for that kind of request

 

[Artemis]

cutting and bulking is a nightmare i got sick during my bulk and i lost alot of weight and wanted to die

You do some PED's? Or you are naturally gifted?

 

[StuffedFrog]

You do some PED's? Or you are naturally gifted?

no i think i have b tier genetics

 

[twilight]

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sean noreiga one of the top powerlifters in the world

just use someone on 10 different steroids to prove that incel lifts are good for aesthetics theory

 

[Artemis]

no i think i have b tier genetics

Idk, to me you seem muscular and lean. Perfect body tbh. The only bad thing about your build is your lack of lats. Would be a total machine with them

 

[StuffedFrog]

Idk, to me you seem muscular and lean. Perfect body tbh. The only bad thing about your build is your lack of lats. Would be a total machine with them

ok enough dick riding out of you

physique update 2.5 i got a major imbalance help

felt a bit down posting here and replying gives me a dopamine rush so im posting again next post is gonna be done with a apple devices camera this was taken with a chrome book camera things i focused on back shoulders gonna do some more bench volume for a more fuller chest i really gotta fix...

looksmax.org

 

[AngryShane]

some raided gymcel who claimed he had a very ugly face but good body said some bitches when he got to know them were allegedly down to fuck if he wore a mask.

That's just messed up...

 

[Artemis]

ok enough dick riding out of you

physique update 2.5 i got a major imbalance help

felt a bit down posting here and replying gives me a dopamine rush so im posting again next post is gonna be done with a apple devices camera this was taken with a chrome book camera things i focused on back shoulders gonna do some more bench volume for a more fuller chest i really gotta fix...

looksmax.org

i guess you have gymcel-standards

 

[StuffedFrog]

i guess you have gymcel-standards

still got mass to put on
all of my training was powerlifting
i sometimes skipped accessories

a good powerlifting program and a surplus can take you pretty far

 

[Artemis]

still got mass to put on
all of my training was powerlifting
i sometimes skipped accessories

a good powerlifting program and a surplus can take you pretty far

Do you know your free test level?

 

[StuffedFrog]

Do you know your free test level?

no i woudnt also gym was off and on quite frequently

for test i got hit with gyno so average

 

[ScramFranklin]

nah i did deadlifts flat bench and barbell squats and still appeal to the female gaze in fact i only did those exercises for a vast majority of my training

Same. Was a power lifter and still had a great physique

 

[AscensionMan98]

Well, very FEW people are SO ugly that a woman would ask you to wear a mask really... That is some next level of subhumanity, like sub-3 or sth

Even the ugliest of faces are actually not that repulsive. You need to be severely deformed for that kind of request

Yea that’s what I wondered if he was trolling when bitches were asking him to wear a mask. Maybe he was the infamous horse face gym cel.

 

[Pikabro]

What’s the best work-up exercise for pull ups. Lat pull downs?

 

[Deleted member 14774]

Forget heavy deadlifts, flat bench, and bb squats (incel lifts) and focus on heavy overhead press, weighted pull ups and incline presses to get the model tier aesthetic body women actually want

Weighted pull ups are cope. Bigger lats won’t make you wider

 

[twilight]

What’s the best work-up exercise for pull ups. Lat pull downs?

nah so negative chin ups. so jump up on the bar and slowly as you can bring yourself down and repeat

 

[Ricochet]

nah i did deadlifts flat bench and barbell squats and still appeal to the female gaze in fact i only did those exercises for a vast majority of my training

Yea deadlifts, flat barbell bench, and barbell squats are great. Not to mention they hit the most muscles therefore the best exercises to raise T levels

 

[twilight]

Weighted pull ups are cope. Bigger lats won’t make you wider

Cope, train your back.

 

[Deleted member 13710]

Forget heavy deadlifts, flat bench, and bb squats (incel lifts) and focus on heavy overhead press, weighted pull ups and incline presses to get the model tier aesthetic body women actually want

Just don't do the most effective exercises, bro.

 

[twilight]

Just don't do the most effective exercises, bro.

none of those exersises are necessary or useful for building an attractive body. My opinion.

 

[Deleted member 1332]

I feel like it's the oppisote, blackpillers will tell you body means nothing and it's all face, while normies tell you to go to the gym and be confident

Any true blackpiller acknowledges the importance of the gym as one of the only things you can do to actually looksmax outside of actual surgery and hard looksmaxxing

However, they don't say it will turn a 2 into 7, as redpillers do. In the blackpill, the gym is a multipler. Getting shredded for a 2 might bring him up to a 2.5 or 3. For a 5 it might bring them up to a 6 or 7.

This is also why so many hopeless dudes on here try to tell people that going to the gym is a waste, because for them it truthfully could be.

The reality of the gym is brutal - If you didn't have much to work with before (and were already had low bf %), it probably won't give many benefits outside of interactions with other dudes. However, if you're already attractive, having a good body can massively increase any attraction that you already had

 

[Deleted member 13710]

none of those exersises are necessary or useful for building an attractive body. My opinion.

I feel like I've seen this exact thread 25 times. You don't know anything about programming, you just think you can "blackpill"/bullshit your way through training and somehow be more successful than people with years of experience, including guys who specialize in "aesthetics".
You'll end up with fucked up shoulder and terrible posture while still being small. Every guy with an amazing physique trained doing the lifts you're telling us not to do.

 

[Matthias8272]

Any true blackpiller acknowledges the importance of the gym as one of the only things you can do to actually looksmax outside of actual surgery and hard looksmaxxing

However, they don't say it will turn a 2 into 7, as redpillers do. In the blackpill, the gym is a multipler. Getting shredded for a 2 might bring him up to a 2.5 or 3. For a 5 it might bring them up to a 6 or 7.

This is also why so many hopeless dudes on here try to tell people that going to the gym is a waste, because for them it truthfully could be.

The reality of the gym is brutal - If you didn't have much to work with before, it probably won't give many benefits outside of interactions with other dudes. However, if you're already attractive, having a good body can massively increase any attraction that was already present

 

[Deleted member 1332]

> Joined Feb 22, 2020
> 10,203 posts

It's not water for people that don't spend every waking second browsing this forum with how many conflicting opinions exist about the gym on this site

 

[Matthias8272]

> Joined Feb 22, 2020
> 10,203 posts

It's not water for people that don't spend every waking second browsing this forum with how many conflicting opinions exist about the gym on this site

I think it's water for pretty much anyone that has searched blackpill on youtube, i knew this before joining the site

 

[Deleted member 1332]

I think it's water for pretty much anyone that has searched blackpill on youtube, i knew this before joining the site

I knew it too, but I also knew plenty of ugly ass dudes breaking their backs in the gym, who were obviously only doing it because they thought there was pussy at the end of the rainbow. If you have a big group of friends I would imagine you, and a lot of people here, can probably relate

 

[Matthias8272]

I knew it too, but I also knew plenty of ugly ass dudes breaking their back in the gym, who were obviously only doing it because they thought there was pussy at the end of the rainbow. If you have a big group of friends I would imagine you and most people could relate

Yes I did it myself also, but it's not like you typed that on reddit or whatever place has people who haven't touched blackpill content. It's safe to assume people on here at least know what the blackpill is and have done some surface level searching which is why my personal join date isn't relevant

 

[Deleted member 1332]

Yes I did it myself also, but it's not like you typed that on reddit or whatever place has people who haven't touched "blackpill." It's safe to assume people on here at least know what the blackpill is and have done some surface level searching which is why my personal join date isn't relevant

With how many conflicting posts about the gym being the save all or worthless on this forum, almost daily, I'd disagree. And sorry, didn't mean to be an asshole, but I just thought it was funny that you had 10,000 posts in 2 years of history. Nothing against you but with that history I would imagine you read the majority of the posts on here, and would also assume the average user on here is much less active. i.e. I usually only come to this site 3 or 4 times every week, if that, to read posts