OP probably means these guys who do a lot of these compounds also always eat too much coz they think it's gonna help muh strength
I was around 2000 posts at the beginning of this year and inactive for at least a year but yes I will see a lot more threads than you do and I can say that overall you're wrong regarding conflicting posts. Even if you just filter a search by gym there are threads such as "gym is cope," "is the gym for losers," "gym is major cope" with 0 conflicting posts. As I said that information isn't specific to this forum and people will usually know what blackpill is upon joining
Idk what to say man, I'm happy we agree on the main point, but just doing what you said and searching "gym", and half threads are "gym is cope", "gym is for losers" and the other is "rate my routine" and "gym is the best looksmax". I don't think I'm going to convince you tho so let's just stop wasting our time
rating a routine does not imply they think they can get a major change from going to the gym, also we both established that im perma rotting on here and you're not (I assume so since my post frequency is funny), so I'm telling you that isn't what's on here. Also I just used the first page as an example but that'd sill be 3 to 1 posts, it's more like I can't convince you
I also just checked the guys thread for it being the best looksmax and he clarifies "for me," so it's 0
This is my last reply fs, b/c this is pointless. To clarify, rating a routine implies that they see some benefit in going to the gym, obviously a completely different mentality than saying that it is cope. And as we both agree, it would be water to you, sure, but as evident by an easily observable number of users having conflicted opinions, it literally isn't.
Yes they see a benefit, however that does not imply they see a major benefit nor does it assess potential health reasons they could be doing it for. There is not a substantial observable amount of conflicting opinions so no, as we've both established I see much more threads than you do and what you say is wrong
I clarified they weren't conflicting if you read, I just called them that since you chose to
if you do it consistent enough your bones will adapt and you will be at your prime height more hours a day (shoulder press)
why flat bench if you can incline bench? the upper chest should be prioritised for aesthetics/plate of armour appearance. Focusing on regular bench can lead to overdeveloped lower chest which makes it look look like you have boobs.
If this is you you need to work on your upper back and posture. Thumbs should be pointing straight forward in neutral posture, not towards your belly button.
my thumbs? and i have been working on upper back alot
What does a model tier physique look like?The reason it doesn't work for them is because they train like this
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"Bro girls don't care about your gains do it for yourself! i only attract more dudes than girls now"
Gymcelling DOES work (provided you aren't sub5) but you need to train for the female gaze (water)
Forget heavy deadlifts, flat bench, and bb squats (incel lifts) and focus on heavy overhead press, weighted pull ups and incline presses to get the model tier aesthetic body women actually want
And behind the neck presses and pulldowns are quite bad for joints health and should be avoided.
Caging at hamzas frame and insertions
agree flat bench can go. But how else you planning on hitting the lower body/posterior chain? if you think chicks don’t go crazy over a nice pair of legs (and mostly glutes tbh) you are outing yourself as not having much experience lol
you don’t need bb squats for nice legs though, romanian deadlifts with dumbbells and bulgarian split squats are ideal if you don’t want to tax your CNS and jack up your appetite (making it harder to stay lean)
already mentioned this in my post ugly incel.
even though you can tell his frame is shitty you can’t deny he looks good considering his base
No, your frame and insertions are genetics but that doesn’t mean you can’t put emphasis on the right muscles to make them stand out more
with every movement you use many muscles, naturally you will proportionaly grow them, with roid you Can localize more growth, and you will notice more hypertrophy on zones dense in AR such as traps and delts
It's like 95% the same. If one is going to "overdevelop" your lower pecs, the other will too.
Because regular deadlift will allow you to overload and build more muscle and strength, and the strength you build in your core and upper back will support all of those upper body lifts that are so precious to you.
They aren't more effective and your CNS doesn't get "strained".
IIRC this guy literally altered the programs he offered to emphasize squats and deadlifts more.
post physique
Translation: I cannot defend my dumb uniformed cliched ideas at all
you keep calling me a newbie and you keep acting like you know better so post physique? let’s see? “muh risk back injury for strength
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when he cuts all that baby fat off he will still look like a T-rex, sorry.
but but but his squat is SO BIG nowThe reason it doesn't work for them is because they train like this
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"Bro girls don't care about your gains do it for yourself! i only attract more dudes than girls now
Gymcelling DOES work (provided you aren't sub5) but you need to train for the female gaze (water)
Forget heavy deadlifts, flat bench, and bb squats (incel lifts) and focus on heavy overhead press, weighted pull ups and incline presses to get the model tier aesthetic body women actually want
yeah i didn’t think so
Fair enough… those are legit exercises. I personally just prefer using a barbell instead because I can add more weight.
left has jb appeal. right no jb appeal
