review of Giant implants, conflicting info. Is he legit?

[Ychassa]

I’ve seen a lot of great reviews about @RealSurgerymax , but I’ve also come across some horror stories. It feels like there’s a big lack of clarity around the actual botch rate and what causes these issues. I’ve seen results like the ones allegedly done by Giant, but there’s not enough information. How many procedures has he actually done? What do his overall results look like?

Also, why do these horror stories about Giant exist? The guy in the picture above looked better before his mandible implants. I’ve heard Giant works with surgeons like Celal, who have a questionable reputation, but I guess if Giant designs the implants and is present during surgery, maybe Celal’s retardation won’t have as much impact?


Does anyone have more info or can Giant himself explain this? I know Clavicular is planning to have surgery with Giant, and the fact that Clavicular, who’s an influencer, is willing to take that risk and Giant is willing to risk his reputation on a single customer, makes me think Giant has control over whether a surgery is botched or not.


But then how do situations like this happen? (its very clear its giants work, due to the implant design imo)

Is it that Giant doesn’t care about his patients? Has he learned from past mistakes? What’s the full story here?


There’s so much missing info. Does anyone know more about this?

 

[Cat.]

I’ve seen a lot of great reviews about @RealSurgerymax , but I’ve also come across some horror stories. It feels like there’s a big lack of clarity around the actual botch rate and what causes these issues. I’ve seen results like the ones allegedly done by Giant, but there’s not enough information. How many procedures has he actually done? What do his overall results look like?

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Also, why do these horror stories about Giant exist? The guy in the picture above looked better before his mandible implants. I’ve heard Giant works with surgeons like Celal, who have a questionable reputation, but I guess if Giant designs the implants and is present during surgery, maybe Celal’s retardation won’t have as much impact?


Does anyone have more info or can Giant himself explain this? I know Clavicular is planning to have surgery with Giant, and the fact that Clavicular, who’s an influencer, is willing to take that risk and Giant is willing to risk his reputation on a single customer, makes me think Giant has control over whether a surgery is botched or not.


But then how do situations like this happen? (its very clear its giants work, due to the implant design imo)

Is it that Giant doesn’t care about his patients? Has he learned from past mistakes? What’s the full story here?


There’s so much missing info. Does anyone know more about this?

Not even sure why he wanted implants tbh

 

[kingofkings]

There’s so much missing info. Does anyone know more about this?

Already been extensively discussed

Botched by GIANT Implants in turkey (Giant Responses Included)

Giant Implants Responses: 1. Post in thread 'Surgeon Celal Candirli' https://looksmax.org/threads/surgeon-celal-candirli.1391574/post-20288610 You left out some details that change the context a lot: #1 – The main thing that matters: Your tissue quality due to previous infections First off...

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[RealSurgerymax]

Do you expect every surgery to go perfect every time, hundreds of cases in 5 years without a single unhappy patient or problem? Sounds like you need a GIANT reality check.

The best surgeons quote a 1-2% infection rate (2 out of every 100 implants will get infected.) Since over 1,000 Giant Implants have been placed, and 4 have had infections, then the Giant success rate is MUCH HIGHER than average. So it's stupid to put a spotlight on the 4. One was with a USA surgeon by the way, it's not like they only happen in turkey.

Of course the few patients who have complications will post about it & complain in group chats, while the happy ones just move on with life or hide they got surgery, making the optics look 50/50. But they're really like 99/1 (major complications.)
Minor tradeoffs happen in ALL SURGERIES.

These complications are out of anyones control, CERTAINLY out of the scope of my control as the designer, like infection. They aren't a surprise to the patient. We make it very clear these things can happen before they proceed and they sign that they understand we will not be held responsible (can't sue us). That is the practice with EVERY surgeon in the world. Not a SINGLE surgeon will do surgery on you without you signing such a consent or accept liability for any complications that happen. We will help to treat and fix them, but certain costs are still the patients responsibility, and if they want to be treated elsewhere, thats out of their pocket. Again these are the standards everywhere. If these standards were not in place, or something happened to us every time a complication we have no control over comes about, there would be no one to help you!

Complications happen to every surgeon. If you are searching for a surgeon without complications you are searching for something that doesnt exist. EVERY surgeon with any experience has had NUMEROUS complications, whether they're written online or not.

 

[Devon]

Do you expect every surgery to go perfect every time, hundreds of cases in 5 years without a single unhappy patient or problem? Sounds like you need a GIANT reality check.

The best surgeons quote a 1-2% infection rate (2 out of every 100 implants will get infected.) Since over 1,000 Giant Implants have been placed, and 4 have had infections, then the success rate is HIGHER than average. So it's stupid to put a spotlight on the 4. One was with a USA surgeon by the way, its not like they only happen in turkey.

Of course the few patients who have complications will post about it & complain in group chats, while the happy ones just move on with life or hide they got surgery, making the optics look 50/50. But they're really like 99/1.
The complications are out of anyones control, CERTAINLY out of the scope of my control as the designer, like infection. They aren't a surprise to the patient. We make it very clear these things can happen before they proceed and they sign that they understand we will not be held responsible (can't sue us). That is the practice with EVERY surgeon in the world. Not a SINGLE surgeon will do surgery on you without you signing such a consent or take liability for any complications that happen. We will help to treat and fix them, but certain costs are still the patients responsibility, and if they want to be treated elsewhere, thats out of their pocket. Again these are the standards everywhere. If these standards where not in place, or something happened to us every time a complication we have no control over comes about, there would be no one to help you!

Complications happen to every surgeon. If you are searching for a surgeon without complications you are searching for something that doesnt exist. EVERY surgeon with any experience has had NUMEROUS complications.

Hey man could you check dms if you have the time, I would greatly appreciate it

 

[Devon]

I’ve seen a lot of great reviews about @RealSurgerymax , but I’ve also come across some horror stories. It feels like there’s a big lack of clarity around the actual botch rate and what causes these issues. I’ve seen results like the ones allegedly done by Giant, but there’s not enough information. How many procedures has he actually done? What do his overall results look like?

View attachment 4014395
Also, why do these horror stories about Giant exist? The guy in the picture above looked better before his mandible implants. I’ve heard Giant works with surgeons like Celal, who have a questionable reputation, but I guess if Giant designs the implants and is present during surgery, maybe Celal’s retardation won’t have as much impact?


Does anyone have more info or can Giant himself explain this? I know Clavicular is planning to have surgery with Giant, and the fact that Clavicular, who’s an influencer, is willing to take that risk and Giant is willing to risk his reputation on a single customer, makes me think Giant has control over whether a surgery is botched or not.


But then how do situations like this happen? (its very clear its giants work, due to the implant design imo)

Is it that Giant doesn’t care about his patients? Has he learned from past mistakes? What’s the full story here?


There’s so much missing info. Does anyone know more about this?

This guy requested elf ears, theres no way anyone thinks this guy is sane

 

[Ychassa]

Do you expect every surgery to go perfect every time, hundreds of cases in 5 years without a single unhappy patient or problem? Sounds like you need a GIANT reality check.

The best surgeons quote a 1-2% infection rate (2 out of every 100 implants will get infected.) Since over 1,000 Giant Implants have been placed, and 4 have had infections, then the Giant success rate is MUCH HIGHER than average. So it's stupid to put a spotlight on the 4. One was with a USA surgeon by the way, it's not like they only happen in turkey.

Of course the few patients who have complications will post about it & complain in group chats, while the happy ones just move on with life or hide they got surgery, making the optics look 50/50. But they're really like 99/1 (major complications.)
Minor tradeoffs happen in ALL SURGERIES.

These complications are out of anyones control, CERTAINLY out of the scope of my control as the designer, like infection. They aren't a surprise to the patient. We make it very clear these things can happen before they proceed and they sign that they understand we will not be held responsible (can't sue us). That is the practice with EVERY surgeon in the world. Not a SINGLE surgeon will do surgery on you without you signing such a consent or accept liability for any complications that happen. We will help to treat and fix them, but certain costs are still the patients responsibility, and if they want to be treated elsewhere, thats out of their pocket. Again these are the standards everywhere. If these standards were not in place, or something happened to us every time a complication we have no control over comes about, there would be no one to help you!

Complications happen to every surgeon. If you are searching for a surgeon without complications you are searching for something that doesnt exist. EVERY surgeon with any experience has had NUMEROUS complications, whether they're written online or not.

thank you man, this helped clear things up

 

[chrishell]

It's important to understand implants in general have a very high revision rate--40%-50%. Although Giant implants from what I have seen has made some good results too. Make sure you have money for 1-2 revisions and adjunct soft tissue procedures. You also have to keep in mind designing and producing an implant can take 6-12 months.

 

[LEFORT17]

It's important to understand implants in general have a very high revision rate--40%-50%. Although Giant implants from what I have seen has made some good results too. Make sure you have money for 1-2 revisions and adjunct soft tissue procedures. You also have to keep in mind designing and producing an implant can take 6-12 months.

6-12months

 

[kingofkings]

It's important to understand implants in general have a very high revision rate--40%-50%. Although Giant implants from what I have seen has made some good results too. Make sure you have money for 1-2 revisions and adjunct soft tissue procedures. You also have to keep in mind designing and producing an implant can take 6-12 months.

I wanted to pick your brain about something.

How effective do you think fat grafting is on top of saddled infraorbital implants? Specifically, covering any visible edges or step offs. I've seen this recommended a handful of times but I haven't read anywhere how effective it really is.

 

[chrishell]

I wanted to pick your brain about something.

How effective do you think fat grafting is on top of saddled infraorbital implants? Specifically, covering any visible edges or step offs. I've seen this recommended a handful of times but I haven't read anywhere how effective it really is.

It depends on the severity of the step off and skeletonization and thickness of skin and if fat grafting can solve the issue can only be determined on a case by case basis. Generally it does help but it can just as often be a cover-up for a badly designed implant.

 

[everyone]

giant is good, pat is a retard

 

[SurgeonsAreScammers]

Do you expect every surgery to go perfect every time, hundreds of cases in 5 years without a single unhappy patient or problem? Sounds like you need a GIANT reality check.

The best surgeons quote a 1-2% infection rate (2 out of every 100 implants will get infected.) Since over 1,000 Giant Implants have been placed, and 4 have had infections, then the Giant success rate is MUCH HIGHER than average. So it's stupid to put a spotlight on the 4. One was with a USA surgeon by the way, it's not like they only happen in turkey.

Of course the few patients who have complications will post about it & complain in group chats, while the happy ones just move on with life or hide they got surgery, making the optics look 50/50. But they're really like 99/1 (major complications.)
Minor tradeoffs happen in ALL SURGERIES.

These complications are out of anyones control, CERTAINLY out of the scope of my control as the designer, like infection. They aren't a surprise to the patient. We make it very clear these things can happen before they proceed and they sign that they understand we will not be held responsible (can't sue us). That is the practice with EVERY surgeon in the world. Not a SINGLE surgeon will do surgery on you without you signing such a consent or accept liability for any complications that happen. We will help to treat and fix them, but certain costs are still the patients responsibility, and if they want to be treated elsewhere, thats out of their pocket. Again these are the standards everywhere. If these standards were not in place, or something happened to us every time a complication we have no control over comes about, there would be no one to help you!

Complications happen to every surgeon. If you are searching for a surgeon without complications you are searching for something that doesnt exist. EVERY surgeon with any experience has had NUMEROUS complications, whether they're written online or not.

Biggest issue more your lack of professional etiquette imo.

I would gladly drop a 100k deposit for implants right this second if you were at all a reliable professional. Your business involves putting foreign objects in people’s face to dramatically alter their appearance.

I’m sure you are talented and a decent designer. The bar is VERY low for male plastic surgery anyway, but no way I’m going with someone who communicates like a 19 year old girl

 

[RealSurgerymax]

Biggest issue more your lack of professional etiquette imo.

I would gladly drop a 100k deposit for implants right this second if you were at all a reliable professional. Your business involves putting foreign objects in people’s face to dramatically alter their appearance.

I’m sure you are talented and a decent designer. The bar is VERY low for male plastic surgery anyway, but no way I’m going with someone who communicates like a 19 year old girl

You are free to go somewhere else (worse.)

And starting in Jan I will have a secretary (Angelica)

 

[SurgeonsAreScammers]

You are free to go somewhere else (worse.)
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And starting in Jan I will have a secretary (Angelica)

Not really worse tbh. Technical skill with implants is only one part of the package. You’re also paying for the professional service. I’d go with some no name implant surgeon in the USA for the same price or even 3x as expensive over you easily just because I’m paying to know that they won’t communicate me like a teenager on tinder if something goes wrong. All part of the package man. If I just cared about results I go get a bimax in Brazil.

 

[RealSurgerymax]

Not really worse tbh. Technical skill with implants is only one part of the package. You’re also paying for the professional service. I’d go with some no name implant surgeon in the USA for the same price or even 3x as expensive over you easily just because I’m paying to know that they won’t communicate me like a teenager on tinder if something goes wrong. All part of the package man. If I just cared about results I go get a bimax in Brazil.

Objectively worse because you cant objectively get someone with even 1/20th of my experience in certain kinds of specialty implants (supras) and also not have access to features like remote muscle anchorage which are patent pending technology invented by me.

You are free to go somewhere inferior.

 

[SurgeonsAreScammers]

Objectively worse because you cant objectively get someone with even 1/20th of my experience in certain kinds of specialty implants (supras) and also not have access to features like remote muscle anchorage which are patent pending technology invented by me.

You are free to go somewhere inferior

Inferior products/technical ability maybe. Whole package, nah I don’t agree. I’ve only one face. I’m also paying to make sure my surgeon won’t ghost me if shit goes sideways, which is why these surgeries are so expensive in the first place.

 

[RAJ GHRANDHICK🗿]

Inferior products/technical ability maybe. Whole package, nah I don’t agree. I’ve only one face. I’m also paying to make sure my surgeon won’t ghost me if shit goes sideways, which is why these surgeries are so expensive in the first place.

yea imagine trusting a weird faggot

 

[Hernan]

You are free to go somewhere else (worse.)
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And starting in Jan I will have a secretary (Angelica)

what happened to Debinese??

 

[RealSurgerymax]

what happened to Debinese??

Debinise is the complaints manager not the first line secretary.

 

[RealSurgerymax]

Inferior products/technical ability maybe. Whole package, nah I don’t agree. I’ve only one face. I’m also paying to make sure my surgeon won’t ghost me if shit goes sideways, which is why these surgeries are so expensive in the first place.

Ill probably raise prices then if ppl want more hand holding.

 

[LEFORT17]

Ill probably raise prices then if ppl want more hand holding.

would u hold my hand while getting some infras?

 

[aids]

Debinise is the complaints manager not the first line secretary.

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Does she do happy endings

 

[abdullah23k]

Do you expect every surgery to go perfect every time, hundreds of cases in 5 years without a single unhappy patient or problem? Sounds like you need a GIANT reality check.

The best surgeons quote a 1-2% infection rate (2 out of every 100 implants will get infected.) Since over 1,000 Giant Implants have been placed, and 4 have had infections, then the Giant success rate is MUCH HIGHER than average. So it's stupid to put a spotlight on the 4. One was with a USA surgeon by the way, it's not like they only happen in turkey.

Of course the few patients who have complications will post about it & complain in group chats, while the happy ones just move on with life or hide they got surgery, making the optics look 50/50. But they're really like 99/1 (major complications.)
Minor tradeoffs happen in ALL SURGERIES.

These complications are out of anyones control, CERTAINLY out of the scope of my control as the designer, like infection. They aren't a surprise to the patient. We make it very clear these things can happen before they proceed and they sign that they understand we will not be held responsible (can't sue us). That is the practice with EVERY surgeon in the world. Not a SINGLE surgeon will do surgery on you without you signing such a consent or accept liability for any complications that happen. We will help to treat and fix them, but certain costs are still the patients responsibility, and if they want to be treated elsewhere, thats out of their pocket. Again these are the standards everywhere. If these standards were not in place, or something happened to us every time a complication we have no control over comes about, there would be no one to help you!

Complications happen to every surgeon. If you are searching for a surgeon without complications you are searching for something that doesnt exist. EVERY surgeon with any experience has had NUMEROUS complications, whether they're written online or not.

Where can I find results you got any before and afters doc

 

[newChi]

Ngl I think giant has a really good spatial imagination. He does what I would expect from someone prolly thats why his surgery plans seem logical to me. Of course I wouldnt do surgery with celal and go with pagnoni but in combination with giant. I dont like implants but thats beacuse it can look "bad" real fast. Still some of his designs especially eye are are hella good. Saw a browridge implant(I think) and it ascended the person. I still think he underestimates the combination of MSE + surgery but I never asked him maybe he shares his Idea about it. Still they guy in here got somewhat botched BUT he didnt wait a certain period of time (and as far as I understood he knew he should wait but didnt) he got a infection and it is bad and hurts giants reputation. On the other hand if giant would have ascended him hard he wouldnt tell like the rest of us just keep your mouth shut and enjoy life.

Btw his genio approach is the best i saw (so far) he uses the bone itself. The next step is a safer way to move the upper maxilla thats where I think mse need to be used to weaken the suture around the zygos

 

[lurking truecel]

It's important to understand implants in general have a very high revision rate--40%-50%. Although Giant implants from what I have seen has made some good results too. Make sure you have money for 1-2 revisions and adjunct soft tissue procedures. You also have to keep in mind designing and producing an implant can take 6-12 months.

How retarded are you, Designing a implant doesnt take 6-12 months. It takes a 2 weeks at most. @RealSurgerymax do you design your implants 6-12 months before ?(Except on clavs surgery that wont happen or will it )

 

[chrishell]

How retarded are you, Designing a implant doesnt take 6-12 months. It takes a 2 weeks at most. @RealSurgerymax do you design your implants 6-12 months before ?(Except on clavs surgery that wont happen or will it )

It depends on the designer. I've heard from some people waiting several years. Some people are more efficient I guess.

 

[newChi]

How retarded are you, Designing a implant doesnt take 6-12 months. It takes a 2 weeks at most. @RealSurgerymax do you design your implants 6-12 months before ?(Except on clavs surgery that wont happen or will it )

Nah it takes that long mostly because a lot of people want to go with his designs. A Doc said at least a year. Thats why I said there are prolly people that ascended hard but never tell. And looking at how how many ig stories he did in a surgery it was at least 5-10 with one turkish doc (a month prolly less now or he just doesnt make stories cuz people dm about their case).

(Offtopic)
Still I would like to hear how that misplacement with pats implant happened. I looked at the posts of him and a few people mentioned (rightfully) that the placement in the planning was hella bad. Was it just an early design and he slipped through and ended up getting that surgery early even though the planning wasnt finalised or was it really a mistake? (For which obviously he is at fault)

 

[lurking truecel]

Nah it takes that long mostly because a lot of people want to go with his designs. A Doc said at least a year. Thats why I said there are prolly people that ascended hard but never tell. And looking at how how many ig stories he did in a surgery it was at least 5-10 with one turkish doc (a month prolly less now or he just doesnt make stories cuz people dm about their case).

(Offtopic)
Still I would like to hear how that misplacement with pats implant happened. I looked at the posts of him and a few people mentioned (rightfully) that the placement in the planning was hella bad. Was it just an early design and he slipped through and ended up getting that surgery early even though the planning wasnt finalised or was it really a mistake? (For which obviously he is at fault)

I mean this wasnt about giant, giant has even said himself that he usually designs the implant on one night. And it gets worse if he overthinks it or changes it.

I mean we know litteraly 15-20 of his results and no one really ascended hard. But sure maybe there are some hidden ones out there. Could be possible.