Rise of Onlyfans has destroyed sugar dating , Its over for Americancels

Do you feel that you will make it in the West ( USA, Australia, UK)+Western Europe

  • I am in the west and I feel I can make it and get myself some cute HTB, Stacylites with looksmaxing

    Votes: 6 50.0%
  • I am in Western Europe and feel I can make it with some cute HTB/Stacylite with looksmaxing

    Votes: 2 16.7%
  • I am not in either region but Feel I WOULD succeed if I was in the west+ western europe

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • I am not in either region but feel I WOULD NOT succeed if I was in the west+ Western Europe

    Votes: 4 33.3%

  • Total voters
    12
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Just 2 years ago after I was tired of the amount of games I dealt with roasties and insane amount of gym celling required to get some cute foids, I embarked on a mission to get pussy easily. I wanted to pay for it but in america our cucked country bans prostition. So I sought a loop hole which is sugar dating, where you basically pay for " dates" with a cute girl. Americucks would only allow that.

Through this experience before the pandemic and a bit after I managed to fuck some pretty hot girls. Initially it was a bi challenging as a lot of them thought I was a catfish. They thought I was not serious and trolling them. Many doubted I had money. But by sending pics of my money and meeting them in a coffee place or restraint and some alcohol they ended up relaxing and were very excited to be with some guy who was not some fat beta cucked simp doing it out of desperation but a guy who just wanted some no strings bullshIT


Fast forward to today. In 2023, with the massive rise of Only fans, many women who would want to be sugar babies are now only doing only fans. So their has been a huge excludes of women in the 18-23 bracket that SHOULD Have been Sugar babies and fucking me doing ONLY Only fans.

THANSK TO THESE IDIOTIC SIMPS WILLIGN TO PAY THOUSANDS FOR FEET PICS , THE MARKET IS DESTROYED.

I signed up on 2 websites as I got BRUTALLY FLAKED by 2 Roasties Online, 1 via cold approach ( who showed strong ioi ) as I was TIRED of FLAKES.

LONG STORY SHORT NOT 1 REPLY BACK BESIDES ROASTIES FROM BRAZIL AND COLUMBIA MESSAGING ME

The other website Secret Benefits ended up being a total SCAM. Not 1 women replied back. 169$ wasted.
Seeking arrangement also no replies , it shows that they read the message. So 90$ wasted on that.

I Believe that its Really over in America. I will have to look to long term solutions to staying in Eastern Europe or something.

OR looksmax hard and change my attitude. I know my 140 lb ass at 63.5kg isn't much at the height of 5ft 11/180 cm. I had previously good conditioning at 170 lbs/77.1 kg but found it enormously hard to maintain. I was also taking sarms. My body was not meant to put on much muscle. I have always been a thin kid . I greatly dislike eating to. Fasting is my default state .

This as well as some contacts, shoe lifts, and some drinking prior to approaches and just being more desensitized and freedom from outcome should get me the results I want to some extent. I just need to be mentally strong.

I used to be a lot more confident in being willing to approach but then a series of legal cases against me ruined my confidence, as well as the blackpill, as well as my huge tinder difference in eastern europe and South America vs america. It always bothers me knowing how easy I have it in Poland, Romania, Belarus, russia, ukraine, Hungary , Croatia, Brazil, Argentina, Columbia vs my Shit Country of United States of Fat Fucks

America , UK, Austrlia= Navy Seal Bootcamp for getting prime white pussy. An influx of too high obesity as well as a lot of ugly hispanics , blacks, and other ethnics that dont even take basic care of themselves, and out of control social media and dangerous feminism rhetoric has destroyed the dating market.

It never began in the west. And even the outlets of sugar dating are completely destroyed in 2023 thanks to Only fans creating delusional hope that every roastie can make it with just some pics. Any man who bothers subscribing to an only fans desevers be fucking shot. You ruined the dating market!

At least French and German normies can escort and sugar max , as well as travel easily to Eastern Europe . They can also more effectively jb max so can instill wisdom on the jb youth while in America age cucks think even a 17 year old is too young.

Yes France and Germany have more chads but their is also a much greater amount of normal weight women.

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Americans can laugh at Europe all they want but they have legal prostitution in only one state.

Incels in Europe can get their sexual needs fulfilled with some decent escort for €100.
 
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Americans can laugh at Europe all they want but they have legal prostitution in only one state.

Incels in Europe can get their sexual needs fulfilled with some decent escort for €100.
Americans are the stupidest fat fucking copers ever. They cope with money for their stupid faggot looking pickup truck that hogs the road, only to get cucked by medical bills when their fat ass gets a heart attack after eating Goyslop at McDonalds everyday.

They also use cars everywhere and spend 2-3x on the road commuting thinking their cool and independent when subways and high speed rail does it 2-3x faster without much impact on the wallets.

Each week with 20 gallons/75.7 liters, it costs roughly 3.7$ per gallon, 1.0 $ per liter, currently median average. In a week its common for commuters to spend this , so its basically 75$ per week , or 280$ a month, so basically 300$ a month wasted on gas, while europeans dont spend that money , no more then a few dollars/euros a day on public transit. I am sure with monthly or yearly passes its even more affordable .


And a sugar baby which it appears I can no longer get it costed me for a high quality blond which I raw dog, it was 600-700$ and I was in a lower cost of living area . This was like 2 years ago.

The hispanic foids charged a lot less. About 300-400$ and I could raw dog them.

But the problem is its over now. I CANNOT GET ANY SUGAR WHORES.
And NEVADA IS COPE. THEIR ALL OLD ROASTIES THOSE WHORES. WOMEN OVER 22 ARE OLD AND USED UP.

So Even if I went to Nevada, what use would it be? I won't pay a dime for a women over 22.
 
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shit options OP- i dont want a relationshit
 
shit options OP- i dont want a relationshit
It's over for those in the west. Women would rather gamble on only fans then be escorts in the west. Now men can't even cope that way.

It's hard to fathom the oldest profession in the world is over . Hopefully these delusional roasties realize on it a small % will make it , but as we know women are delusiaknak and lazy .

All of them will put max effort in that and only give up after their 30 vs pull the plugs early.
 
It's over for those in the west. Women would rather gamble on only fans then be escorts in the west. Now men can't even cope that way.

It's hard to fathom the oldest profession in the world is over . Hopefully these delusional roasties realize on it a small % will make it , but as we know women are delusiaknak and lazy .

All of them will put max effort in that and only give up after their 30 vs pull the plugs early.
Fuck what should I do to ascend. Should I still try sugaring or what FUCK
 
It's over for those in the west. Women would rather gamble on only fans then be escorts in the west. Now men can't even cope that way.

It's hard to fathom the oldest profession in the world is over . Hopefully these delusional roasties realize on it a small % will make it , but as we know women are delusiaknak and lazy .

All of them will put max effort in that and only give up after their 30 vs pull the plugs early.
AI deepfake porn is saturating the industry to prevent any online sex work income from being a main gig.
 
Fuck what should I do to ascend. Should I still try sugaring or what FUCK
You’re a 6’1 ethnic HTN. Finish college and get an LTR with pajeeta.
 
Accelerate it
 
I ended up deleting Bumble for the 2nd time because I couldn’t keep up with hoeflation.
Need more professional NT pics.
Zoomer LTBs keep ghosting me.

Any women more than a year or two older than me is invisible to me.
 
You’re a 6’1 ethnic HTN. Finish college and get an LTR with pajeeta.
I’m not a htn lol who tf said that jfl and I’m virgin only I’m like 4psl when lean (I just finished bulking so not lean rn). I’m also virgin foid only
 
It's over for those in the west. Women would rather gamble on only fans then be escorts in the west. Now men can't even cope that way.

It's hard to fathom the oldest profession in the world is over . Hopefully these delusional roasties realize on it a small % will make it , but as we know women are delusiaknak and lazy .

All of them will put max effort in that and only give up after their 30 vs pull the plugs early.
Cans we chat on pms I’ll show u my sugar baby pics lemme know if they are any good
 
I’m not a htn lol who tf said that jfl and I’m virgin only I’m like 4psl when lean (I just finished bulking so not lean rn). I’m also virgin foid only
Maybe you’ll find a virgin pajeeta in India, not in America tho
 
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Not in India they hoes, Pakistan, my dads side is there
I have some curry friends that actually visit often. They say the metro city foids are getting westernized like the men.

Only hope is to go to the rural areas. Find a light skin foid . They'll be impressed by any westerner with money .
 
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I have some curry friends that actually visit often. They say the metro city foids are getting westernized like the men.

Only hope is to go to the rural areas. Find a light skin foid . They'll be impressed by any westerner with money .
Basically gotta find an 18-20 year old yea the west is done with but pakistan could be fine. Need to experience Latina pussy first tho
 
I have some curry friends that actually visit often. They say the metro city foids are getting westernized like the men.

Only hope is to go to the rural areas. Find a light skin foid . They'll be impressed by any westerner with money .
Westernized how also?
 
I have some curry friends that actually visit often. They say the metro city foids are getting westernized like the men.

Only hope is to go to the rural areas. Find a light skin foid . They'll be impressed by any westerner with money .
I heard rural areas are worse more chances for degeneracy it’s truly iver
 
Fuck what should I do to ascend. Should I still try sugaring or what FUCK
Obviously try. Just don't be surprised if you get barely any responses. It was super easy pre 2020 before the covid bullshit. And even then it was still not as easy as anywhere from the site invention till 2017-2018.

When I first tried it I would get like each day 10-15 random foids hitting me up. Now it's maybe 1 or 2. It's over
 
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Basically gotta find an 18-20 year old yea the west is done with but pakistan could be fine. Need to experience Latina pussy first tho
in terms of gold diggers Columbia Brazil and Argentina top the list so sugaring can work their imo. Sex work is also more widely accepted vs cuckmerica .

For white pussy ukraine and Russia as their desperate to leave their countries lol.

I am fairly confident you can find a gold digger wife to impregnate within a year or two before the western culture gets to them.

Time is ticking.
 
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in terms of gold diggers Columbia Brazil and Argentina top the list so sugaring can work their imo. Sex work is also more widely accepted vs cuckmerica .

For white pussy ukraine and Russia as their desperate to leave their countries lol.

I am fairly confident you can find a gold digger wife to impregnate within a year or two before the western culture gets to them.

Time is ticking.
For marriage it has to be a paki foid prolly or I won’t get my inheritance. I’m 20 but I deffo wanna degen for a bit I saw brothels in Columbia are decent I need to try I’ll get robbed tho prolly
 
For marriage it has to be a paki foid prolly or I won’t get my inheritance. I’m 20 but I deffo wanna degen for a bit I saw brothels in Columbia are decent I need to try I’ll get robbed tho prolly
Pretty sure you can convince those gold diggers to convert to islam, at least on paper .
 
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Pretty sure you can convince those gold diggers to convert to islam, at least on paper .
Parents won’t accept them so I won’t get my money(it’s a large amount I won’t ever be able to make that much) I’m fine with fucking other foids on the side, I’ll need money for that tho
 
You are correct that finding a decent young white female sugar babe in the US is very difficult. It is not impossible, but you pretty much have to luck into a situation where you meet her via work or elsewhere IRL. And it is usually a situaton where she has a low key drug dependency. Finding a Sugar Babe online is not worth the effort for you or the girl, if you are legit rich you are competing with a shit ton of other legit rich guys and posers. If you are not legit rich, and think you can get a decent white Sugar Babe in 2023 because you have a "good job" JFL.

But it is not primarily Onlyfans that is responsible. This same situation existed 10 years ago, before Only Fans was a thing. It is simply that the Job Market has been paying a premium for young women (due to quotas and lawsuits) for the past 30+ years, and young women are making more money than young men in 2023 in College Graduate jobs.
 
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and porn, more importantly, since no one is stupid enough to post their videos for free when they can charge for 15 sec clips of having sex. and their potential market is huge, since vast majority of humans are sexually frustrated/starved
 
Eh
You are correct that finding a decent young white female sugar babe in the US is very difficult. It is not impossible, but you pretty much have to luck into a situation where you meet her via work or elsewhere IRL. And it is usually a situaton where she has a low key drug dependency. Finding a Sugar Babe online is not worth the effort for you or the girl, if you are legit rich you are competing with a shit ton of other legit rich guys and posers. If you are not legit rich, and think you can get a decent white Sugar Babe in 2023 because you have a "good job" JFL.

But it is not primarily Onlyfans that is responsible. This same situation existed 10 years ago, before Only Fans was a thing. It is simply that the Job Market has been paying a premium for young women (due to quotas and lawsuits) for the past 30+ years, and young women are making more money than young men in 2023 in College Graduate jobs.
at about Latina ones?
 
Background

Just 2 years ago after I was tired of the amount of games I dealt with roasties and insane amount of gym celling required to get some cute foids, I embarked on a mission to get pussy easily. I wanted to pay for it but in america our cucked country bans prostition. So I sought a loop hole which is sugar dating, where you basically pay for " dates" with a cute girl. Americucks would only allow that.

Through this experience before the pandemic and a bit after I managed to fuck some pretty hot girls. Initially it was a bi challenging as a lot of them thought I was a catfish. They thought I was not serious and trolling them. Many doubted I had money. But by sending pics of my money and meeting them in a coffee place or restraint and some alcohol they ended up relaxing and were very excited to be with some guy who was not some fat beta cucked simp doing it out of desperation but a guy who just wanted some no strings bullshIT


Fast forward to today. In 2023, with the massive rise of Only fans, many women who would want to be sugar babies are now only doing only fans. So their has been a huge excludes of women in the 18-23 bracket that SHOULD Have been Sugar babies and fucking me doing ONLY Only fans.

THANSK TO THESE IDIOTIC SIMPS WILLIGN TO PAY THOUSANDS FOR FEET PICS , THE MARKET IS DESTROYED.

I signed up on 2 websites as I got BRUTALLY FLAKED by 2 Roasties Online, 1 via cold approach ( who showed strong ioi ) as I was TIRED of FLAKES.

LONG STORY SHORT NOT 1 REPLY BACK BESIDES ROASTIES FROM BRAZIL AND COLUMBIA MESSAGING ME

The other website Secret Benefits ended up being a total SCAM. Not 1 women replied back. 169$ wasted.
Seeking arrangement also no replies , it shows that they read the message. So 90$ wasted on that.

I Believe that its Really over in America. I will have to look to long term solutions to staying in Eastern Europe or something.

OR looksmax hard and change my attitude. I know my 140 lb ass at 63.5kg isn't much at the height of 5ft 11/180 cm. I had previously good conditioning at 170 lbs/77.1 kg but found it enormously hard to maintain. I was also taking sarms. My body was not meant to put on much muscle. I have always been a thin kid . I greatly dislike eating to. Fasting is my default state .

This as well as some contacts, shoe lifts, and some drinking prior to approaches and just being more desensitized and freedom from outcome should get me the results I want to some extent. I just need to be mentally strong.

I used to be a lot more confident in being willing to approach but then a series of legal cases against me ruined my confidence, as well as the blackpill, as well as my huge tinder difference in eastern europe and South America vs america. It always bothers me knowing how easy I have it in Poland, Romania, Belarus, russia, ukraine, Hungary , Croatia, Brazil, Argentina, Columbia vs my Shit Country of United States of Fat Fucks

America , UK, Austrlia= Navy Seal Bootcamp for getting prime white pussy. An influx of too high obesity as well as a lot of ugly hispanics , blacks, and other ethnics that dont even take basic care of themselves, and out of control social media and dangerous feminism rhetoric has destroyed the dating market.

It never began in the west. And even the outlets of sugar dating are completely destroyed in 2023 thanks to Only fans creating delusional hope that every roastie can make it with just some pics. Any man who bothers subscribing to an only fans desevers be fucking shot. You ruined the dating market!

At least French and German normies can escort and sugar max , as well as travel easily to Eastern Europe . They can also more effectively jb max so can instill wisdom on the jb youth while in America age cucks think even a 17 year old is too young.

Yes France and Germany have more chads but their is also a much greater amount of normal weight women.

@
ascension

@ascension @
HimmyButler

@HimmyButler @
Zer0/∞

@Zer0/∞ @
Manchild

@Manchild @
ChiraqJihad

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Zer0/∞
@Zer0/∞ @
MoggerGaston
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the BULL
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Ai Impact
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russiancel
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PrinceLuenLeoncur
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Blackgymmax
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You're going for post-wall roasties on sugar baby sites?

Just pay for a more expensive and uglier hooker theory
 
You're going for post-wall roasties on sugar baby sites?

Just pay for a more expensive and uglier hooker theory
I only was interested in 18-22 year olds, but the site is dead now. Only fans now has made all of these foids think that they can be a milionaire without fucking. Now their is no way for americunts to escort max without traveling abroad.
 
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I only was interested in 18-22 year olds, but the site is dead now. Only fans now has made all of these foids think that they can be a milionaire without fucking. Now their is no way for americunts to escort max without traveling abroad.
we need to go back to the time where there were 12 year old prostitutes for $5 in New York bhai
 

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