Ronaldo is better than Messi

[Hardrada]

Ronaldo won 5 champions leagues including 3 in a row whereas Messi only won 3 with uefalona

Messis world cup was so clearly rigged. That game against the Netherlands says it all. Red card should've been given to the player that kicked the ball at the bench and Messi handballed it. Also in the final the ref stopped play whilst France were counter attacking. Furthermore they had an Argentinian ref for ronaldos game in the quarter finals jfl.

Anyone who thinks the 2018 balon dor shouldn't have gone to Ronaldo is a dumb. Ask anyone before the award was given if it should go to modric and no one would've said so. Only after the matter did people justify modric winning it.

The 2020 balon dor during covid would've been awarded if Messi was the top contender.

The 2021 balon dor was the weakest balon dor win ever.

They literally changed the entire system for the balon dor and made it to be awarded to player of the season instead of player of the year just so it could be given to Messi for his performance at the world cuck.

Messi wins the 2023 balon dor for doing nothing other than winning the rigged world cuck and basically retiring at the end of the season achieving nothing domestically other than moving to a degenerate city in burgerland for a club who wears pink and is owned by a brickhead Brit. Meanwhile haaland breaks record after record playing in the hardest league in the world currently and wins the treble whilst being the top scorer.

 

[chosen-one]

none of these successful figures give a fuck about you

hundereds of millions of years of evolution and warfare led to your birth, and you are on an INCEL forum comparing two successful men who have no relation to you.

you are waste.

keep yapping cunt.

 

[GuyFromSingapore]

Football is gay.

 

[Hardrada]

none of these successful figures give a fuck about you

hundereds of millions of years of evolution and warfare led to your birth, and you are on an INCEL forum comparing two successful men who have no relation to you.

you are waste.

keep yapping cunt.

What you're doing is very similar cunt

 

[Hardrada]

Football is gay.

Gays me

 

[chosen-one]

What you're doing is very similar cunt

but your forum persona is someone who is so smart and talks abt ww3. you act so cool and mysterious but you are a loser. so shut the fuck up. welcome to my ignore faggot.

 

[Hardrada]

but your forum persona is someone who is so smart and talks abt ww3. you act so cool and mysterious but you are a loser. so shut the fuck up.

Tf are you on about jfl

 

[TheTakeoverHasBegun]

He is not

 

[IAMNOTANINCEL]

They are both successfull multi millionaires (that are better than you) who don't give a shit if you prefer them and you are the CUCK worshipping them while you're an incel with 50k posts on an indian forum

 

[Hardrada]

They are both successfull multi millionaires (that are better than you) who don't give a shit if you prefer them and you are the CUCK worshipping them while you're an incel with 50k posts on an indian forum

I'm better than Messi

 

[Hardrada]

He is not

I think Messi is better than ronaldo but that Messi is way too glazed

I just titled it ronaldo better than Messi for more attention

 

[TheTakeoverHasBegun]

I think Messi is better than ronaldo but that Messi is way too glazed

I just titled it ronaldo better than Messi for more attention

Messi is definitely overrated
Niggas think he's perfect when he's not
Flawed player and flawed career
Still a top 2 player ever, though

 

[Hardrada]

Messi is definitely overrated
Niggas think he's perfect when he's not
Flawed player and flawed career
Still a top 2 player ever, though

i wish he played in the prem. he was close to moving to city in 2015/16 but iniesta convinced him to stay. such a waste being at barcelona from 2015 onwards whilst it was being very obviously deliberately destroyed by bartemou

 

[TheTakeoverHasBegun]

i wish he played in the prem. he was close to moving to city in 2015/16 but iniesta convinced him to stay. such a waste being at barcelona from 2015 onwards whilst it was being very obviously deliberately destroyed by bartemou

Doubt Messi has the stats he had in la liga if he plays in the prem
One day we're all going to have an uncomfortable conversation about how shit "la liga" was during the Ronaldo-Madrid and Messi-Barca days

 

[diamondbill]

pessi is an autist that was all his life in one club and can't perform outside that club

Cristiano is and will always be the most complete and best football player of all time

autistic pessi fans think Cristiano can't dribble but don't know he had a knee injury in 2014 and made it worse by keep playing

his injury: "Those changes in the tendon, the collagen that rebuilds the fibers again and again after chronic overuse, end up becoming a chronic and degenerative weakness."

the injury was in 2014 and in Euro 2016 he had to leave the final because of it, even with permanent pain Cristiano is the best player in the world

 

[Hardrada]

pessi is an autist that was all his life in one club and can't perform outside that club

Cristiano is and will always be the most complete and best football player of all time

autistic pessi fans think Cristiano can't dribble but don't know he had a knee injury in 2014 and made it worse by keep playing

his injury: "Those changes in the tendon, the collagen that rebuilds the fibers again and again after chronic overuse, end up becoming a chronic and degenerative weakness."

the injury was in 2014 and in Euro 2016 he had to leave the final because of it, even with permanent pain Cristiano is the best player in the world

ronaldos fault for dribbling into a player for no reason

 

[diamondbill]

ronaldos fault for dribbling into a player for no reason

that's not my point

my point is Cristiano is levels above messi retard

 

[Hardrada]

that's not my point

my point is Cristiano is levels above messi retard

maby but its hard to say. if it wasnt for that injury then ye maby. the fact that he won 3 cl in a row is insane and messi only ever won 3 in total

 

[cytoplasm]

Doubt Messi has the stats he had in la liga if he plays in the prem
One day we're all going to have an uncomfortable conversation about how shit "la liga" was during the Ronaldo-Madrid and Messi-Barca days

It was by far the best league in europe at the time. Pl was subhuman 2012-2018

 

[TheTakeoverHasBegun]

It was by far the best league in europe at the time. Pl was subhuman 2012-2018

A league where there's 2 superteams that are already up 3-0 by halftime in nearly every game (besides when they play each other) will never be the best league in europe
Every other team was broke as shit and couldn't even dream of competing
It wasn't until the new tv deals that the league started to become more competitive and balanced
2008-2018 la liga was disgustingly awful
Imagine seriously thinking a league where 2 of 3 clubs were bankrupt was the best league in europe

La Liga had the 2 best clubs in europe. Nothing more than that.

 

[cytoplasm]

A league where there's 2 superteams that are already up 3-0 by halftime in nearly every game (besides when they play each other) will never be the best league in europe
Every other team was broke as shit and couldn't even dream of competing
It wasn't until the new tv deals that the league started to become more competitive and balanced
2008-2018 la liga was disgustingly awful
Imagine seriously thinking a league where 2 of 3 clubs were bankrupt was the best league in europe
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La Liga had the 2 best clubs in europe. Nothing more than that.

You've been brainwashed by Sky sports. Muh competitivness, who cares about that. La liga had the best players and teams in the world, Atletico won the league in 2014, made 2 champions league finals and won 2 Europa leagues in that time span, sevilla won 3 Europa leagues as well. Meanwhile english teams were barely making it past the round of 16 in the CL, and fucking leicester won the league, that's how shit it was

 

[Fiqh]

Messi better

 

[buflek]

messi vs ronaldo is the same as israel vs palestina

they are both good/shit holes equally. just appreciate them as good footballers. they are equally good, 1 is a better dribbler, the other shoots better.

 

[cytoplasm]

messi vs ronaldo is the same as israel vs palestina

they are both good/shit holes equally. just appreciate them as good footballers. they are equally good, 1 is a better dribbler, the other shoots better.

Messi has a better goalscoring rate

 

[TheTakeoverHasBegun]

You've been brainwashed by Sky sports

I don't live in the uk

Muh competitivness, who cares about that.

If something isn't competitive it cannot be the best at anything, like what are you even saying

La liga had the best players and teams in the world

*Madrid and Barca did
Hence why I said

La Liga had the 2 best clubs in europe. Nothing more than that.

Atletico won the league in 2014, made 2 champions league finals

Took them 6 years (from when la liga started to go bankrupt) to be remotely competitive
Never seriously challenged for the title again (outside of 2016) until Messi's final year at barca

and won 2 Europa leagues in that time span, sevilla won 3 Europa leagues as well.

Europa

Meanwhile english teams were barely making it past the round of 16 in the CL

I imagine so when you spend majority of the season in competitive games and then have to face super teams like barca, madrid, bayern in the KO stages

and fucking leicester won the league, that's how shit it was

2016 leicester winning the league is proof of the prem's parity at the time

Still waiting for you to address the fact la liga was mostly a bankrupt league or the fact madrid and barca were already up by 3 goals in nearly every other game

 

[Deleted member 27746]

normie trait caring about football

 

[buflek]

Messi has a better goalscoring rate

goals isnt everything mate

 

[cytoplasm]

I don't live in the uk

Sky sports influence has a global reach

If something isn't competitive it cannot be the best at anything, like what are you even saying

What am i even saying? I am saying that a league being competitive doesnt make it good, georgian league has had more winners over the last 20 years than england, does that make it better?

*Madrid and Barca did
Hence why I said

Just ignore atletico madrid theory. They were more succesful in europe than any english team between 2012 and 2019

Took them 6 years (from when la liga started to go bankrupt) to be remotely competitive
Never seriously challenged for the title again (outside of 2016) until Messi's final year at barca

They won the league in 2014 and 2021, finished second in 2018 and 2019, made 2 cl finals, won 2 els. But muh chelsea were better...because!!

Europa

Well if your argument is muh competitiveness why dont english teams that finish 5-7th in the league win that competition? Cause they are worse than spanish teams that finish 5-7 (jfl)

I imagine so when you spend majority of the season in competitive games and then have to face super teams like barca, madrid, bayern in the KO stages

Competitive games against burnley and huddersfield and ive adressed the competitivness above, see if you can find it

2016 leicester winning the league is proof of the prem's parity at the time

Still waiting for you to address the fact la liga was mostly a bankrupt league or the fact madrid and barca were already up by 3 goals in nearly every other game

2016 leicester is proof of how shit league was, as they wouldve finished like 10th in spain that year

Barca and madrid were up 3 goals yeah sure, that you must have read on those jewtube comments made by british drunkards

 

[cytoplasm]

goals isnt everything mate

Ronaldo has a notoriously low conversion from shots per game, also more penalties scored

 

[Part-Time Chad]

I like Maradona the best. Records aside, he was much more fun to watch than both of them.

 

[buflek]

Ronaldo has a notoriously low conversion from shots per game, also more penalties scored

Messi vs Ronaldo - All Time Career Goals and Stats

Compare Messi vs Ronaldo all time career stats, including all time goals, assists, free kicks, hat-tricks and scoring ratios!

www.messivsronaldo.app

this site is pretty good to compare them

 

[wsada]

REAL SHIT

 

[wsada]

Messi has a better goalscoring rate

U r NOT saying that Messi is a better goalscorer

 

[cytoplasm]

Messi vs Ronaldo - All Time Career Goals and Stats

Compare Messi vs Ronaldo all time career stats, including all time goals, assists, free kicks, hat-tricks and scoring ratios!

www.messivsronaldo.app

this site is pretty good to compare them

SHOTS PER GOAL​

MESSI5.27Shots Per Goal
RONALDO6.43

There we go

U r NOT saying that Messi is a better goalscorer

SHOTS PER GOAL​

MESSI5.27Shots Per Goal
RONALDO6.43

There we go

 

[wsada]

SHOTS PER GOAL​

MESSI5.27Shots Per Goal
RONALDO6.43

There we go

SHOTS PER GOAL​

MESSI5.27Shots Per Goal
RONALDO6.43

There we go

I don't feel like debating rn but Ronaldo was a midfielder in man UTD and he takes Risker shots than messi

 

[Gargantuan]

A league where there's 2 superteams that are already up 3-0 by halftime in nearly every game (besides when they play each other) will never be the best league in europe
Every other team was broke as shit and couldn't even dream of competing
It wasn't until the new tv deals that the league started to become more competitive and balanced
2008-2018 la liga was disgustingly awful
Imagine seriously thinking a league where 2 of 3 clubs were bankrupt was the best league in europe
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La Liga had the 2 best clubs in europe. Nothing more than that.

You've been brainwashed by Sky sports. Muh competitivness, who cares about that. La liga had the best players and teams in the world, Atletico won the league in 2014, made 2 champions league finals and won 2 Europa leagues in that time span, sevilla won 3 Europa leagues as well. Meanwhile english teams were barely making it past the round of 16 in the CL, and fucking leicester won the league, that's how shit it was

Spanish sides are 10-1 in European Cup Finals over English ones lmao.

PL is trash, almost every season the league is already decided around January. This idea that the league is competitive is a total myth.

 

[cytoplasm]

he takes Risker shots than messi

That's not a good thing though

 

[wsada]

That's not a good thing though

It's why Ronaldo has better goals
Especially the longshots and bicycle kicks ykwim

 

[cytoplasm]

Spanish sides are 10-1 in European Cup Finals over English ones lmao.

PL is trash, almost every season the league is already decided around January. This idea that the league is competitive is a total myth.

Their argument about competetivness is hilarious. They do shit in cl, well its not top heavy like other leagues bro. They do shit in el, who cares bro midtable clubs are though. They can't even win the the conference league lol, but what about the relgation fodder bro! It's all marketing

 

[TheTakeoverHasBegun]

Sky sports influence has a global reach

I live in merica
How dumb do you have to be to think that anything that goes on the uk has reach here

I am saying that a league being competitive doesnt make it good, georgian league has had more winners over the last 20 years than england, does that make it better?

Georgia isn't a real country

finished second in 2018 and 2019

2018: 79 points, 14 off barca
2019: 76 points, 11 off barca
So like I said never seriously challenged for the title besides 2016

made 2 cl finals

Already addressed this

won 2 els

Again europa

But muh chelsea were better...because!!

Chelsea won 2 CL's from 2012-2021
Might be

Well if your argument is muh competitiveness why dont english teams that finish 5-7th in the league win that competition?

Nobody cares about the europas
It's not even competitive
Only competitive comps are the league, cl and domestic tournaments

Competitive games against burnley and huddersfield

Tougher comp than teams like osasuna, getafe, betis

2016 leicester is proof of how shit league was, as they wouldve finished like 10th in spain that year

Sure they would have

Barca and madrid were up 3 goals yeah sure, that you must have read on those jewtube comments made by british drunkards

Watch games from that timespan
Shit just look at the stats
Games were already decided by halftime
"Best league in europe"

Still waiting for you to address 2/3's of la liga being bankrupt

 

[cytoplasm]

It's why Ronaldo has better goals
Especially the longshots and bicycle kicks ykwim

Zlatan mogs both messi and ronaldo combined in goal quality

 

[TheTakeoverHasBegun]

Spanish sides are 10-1 in European Cup Finals over English ones lmao.

Madrid and barca tax
Europa league/ David De Gaya nonense
Not moved

PL is trash, almost every season the league is already decided around January. This idea that the league is competitive is a total myth

Name the seasons since 2010 where the league was won by January

 

[wsada]

Zlatan mogs both messi and ronaldo combined in goal quality
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Farmers league merchant

 

[cytoplasm]

I live in merica
How dumb do you have to be to think that anything that goes on the uk has reach here

You have the opinions as if you were carefully molded by Sky sports influence. Bet you also think shearer has the pl scoring record lel

Georgia isn't a real country

B-but its more competitive!1!1 so its better fr fr

2018: 79 points, 14 off barca
2019: 76 points, 11 off barca
So like I said never seriously challenged for the title besides 2016

Should I start listing the point differences in the pl over the past years? Wouldnt end well

Tougher comp than teams like osasuna, getafe, betis

Based on what exactly? There's 3 tiers of european competitions and in all of them spanish teams outpreform the english ones. Basically this

Their argument about competetivness is hilarious. They do shit in cl, well its not top heavy like other leagues bro. They do shit in el, who cares bro midtable clubs are though. They can't even win the the conference league lol, but what about the relgation fodder bro! It's all marketing

Cause sky sports said thats why

Watch games from that timespan
Shit just look at the stats
Games were already decided by halftime
"Best league in europe"
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Provide me with the stats that say that top teams in spain beath the lower teams by a bigger goal difference than top teams in england. You make the claim and expect me to research (jfl)

Still waiting for you to address 2/3's of la liga being bankrupt

And despite that they still beat english teams, lmao

 

[Gargantuan]

Madrid and barca tax
Europa league/ David De Gaya nonense
Not moved

Name the seasons since 2010 where the league was won by January

2012/2013
2014/2015
2015/2016
2016/2017
2017/2018
2019/2020
2020/2021

All pretty much decided around that period

 

[TheTakeoverHasBegun]

You have the opinions as if you were carefully molded by Sky sports influence.

Never watched sky sports
Nothing but nonsense from you

Bet you also think shearer has the pl scoring record lel

You said it not me

B-but its more competitive!1!1 so its better fr fr

Not a real country therefore nothing real about the "league"
Strawman anyway

Should I start listing the point differences in the pl over the past years? Wouldnt end well

2018 and 2020 tax

There's 3 tiers of european competitions and in all of them spanish teams outpreform the english ones. Basically this

Already addressed this

Cause sky sports said thats why

Sky sports lives rent free in your head
Say sky sports again

Provide me with the stats that say that top teams in spain beath the lower teams by a bigger goal difference than top teams in england. You make the claim and expect me to research (jfl)

2012 la liga for instance

2012 prem in comparison

In just one graph you can see how the top prem teams don't commit legalized rape and you can also see the competitiveness simultaneously
8 teams with a positive GD (6 for la liga)
6 teams with a double digit GD (3 for la liga)
La liga was a joke

And despite that they still beat english teams, lmao

Already explained this
Going in circles at this point

 

[cytoplasm]

Never watched sky sports
Nothing but nonsense from you

You dont have to watch it. Sky owns the rights to broadcasting and has spent a lot of money marketing the league, making ppl believe its the best most competitive etc. And then those opinions get regurgitated by fans which ended up reaching you. All the arguments you use are the ones I keep seeing on social media

Not a real country therefore nothing real about the "league"
Strawman anyway

Jfl

2018 and 2020 tax

Since 2012/2013: 5 times 10+ point difference between champions and runners up in la liga, guess the number in pl? Also 5. But yeah just 2020 and 2018

2012 la liga for instance
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2012 prem in comparison
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In just one graph you can see how the top prem teams don't commit legalized rape and you can also see the competitiveness simultaneously
8 teams with a positive GD (6 for la liga)
6 teams with a double digit GD (3 for la liga)
La liga was a joke

Thats one year lol

Already explained this
Going in circles at this point

You didnt explain shit. You just decided to not value the el for your convenience. If your argument is the premier league is better because its deeper and has more tough teams, why do teams that play in Europa league (and conference league last few years) get consistently beaten by spanish teams in that competition? I mean you said its more competitive

 

[TheTakeoverHasBegun]

2012/2013

Yes

2014/2015

5 point difference by the last week of January
No

2015/2016

3 point difference by the last week of January
No

2016/2017

League wasn't won until the last 3 games
No

2017/2018

Yes

2019/2020

Yes

2020/2021

5 point difference by end of January
No

7 seasons you picked
Wrong on 4
Did you just look at the end of season table and pick one's that you thought you could get away with?
Lmao

 

[TheTakeoverHasBegun]

You dont have to watch it. Sky owns the rights to broadcasting and has spent a lot of money marketing the league, making ppl believe its the best most competitive etc. And then those opinions get regurgitated by fans which ended up reaching you. All the arguments you use are the ones I keep seeing on social media

Doesn't apply to me

5 times 10+ point difference between champions and runners up in la liga, guess the number in pl? Also 5. But yeah just 2020 and 2018

Like I said 2020 and 2018 tax
It's
3 if you exclude those 2 fluke years
How the fuck didn't you get that?

Thats one year lol

The very next year

Like even in 2018 (one of the most uncompetitive prem seasons ever) this is still what the gd looks like

La ligas in comparison

Shall I keep going or you want to drop it?

If your argument is the premier league is better because its deeper and has more tough teams, why do teams that play in Europa league (and conference league last few years) get consistently beaten by spanish teams in that competition?

Already addressed this
Going in circles again

 

[cytoplasm]

Doesn't apply to me

Clearly it does since you say the exact same things that blind barclays™ premier league keep saying

Like I said 2020 and 2018 tax
It's
3 if you exclude those 2 fluke years
How the fuck didn't you get that?

Ok I got it, you just choose to ignore 2 years for no reason at all. I'll do the same, if you exclude those 5 years where la liga was won by 10+ points, it's actually 0

The very next year
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Like even in 2018 (one of the most uncompetitive prem seasons ever) this is still what the gd looks like
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La ligas in comparison
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Shall I keep going or you want to drop it?

Damn so thats 2 in favour of pl, and 1 in favour of la liga. Jfl

Already addressed this
Going in circles again

You just keep convenintly disregarding it. Premier league teams ranked 1-7 keep preforming worse in the same competitions as la liga teams ranked 1-7, fact or no?