Ronaldo is better than Messi

[TheTakeoverHasBegun]

@cytoplasm Your whole argument is flawed anyway because I was talking about domestic leagues
Not them facing each other in different comps
Everyone knows each comp is different and teams treat each comp differently
So even bringing up other comps is ridiculous
We're talking leagues here
The prem is more competitive and harder than 2008-2019 la liga (even moreso now believe it or not, even with man city being a fucking juggernaut)
This is inarguable
La Liga has had the same top 3 since 2013, like what are we talking about here
That's near impossible in the prem
The prem is the best/hardest league in the world and it's been that way forever
There's literally 6 top teams, all with money, fighting for a top 4 spot and you somehow think other leagues would be stronger?
Even Newcastle are a threat now ffs

Be serious for once

 

[TheTakeoverHasBegun]

Clearly it does since you say the exact same things that blind barclays™ premier league keep saying

Rent free

Ok I got it, you just choose to ignore 2 years for no reason at all.

I ignored them because they are fluke years
Not normal for teams to win their league by that many points
2020 and 2018 tax

Damn so thats 2 in favour of pl, and 1 in favour of la liga. Jfl

There isn't 1 of them that's in favor of la liga
Each prem season I showed had teams with more GD (closer GD too) and more by double digit
You are blind

You just keep convenintly disregarding it. Premier league teams ranked 1-7 keep preforming worse in the same competitions as la liga teams ranked 1-7, fact or no?

 

[cytoplasm]

@cytoplasm Your whole argument is flawed anyway because I was talking about domestic leagues
Not them facing each other in different comps
Everyone knows each comp is different and teams treat each comp differently
So even bringing up other comps is ridiculous
We're talking leagues here
The prem is more competitive and harder than 2008-2019 la liga (even moreso now believe it or not, even with man city being a fucking juggernaut)
This is inarguable
La Liga has had the same top 3 since 2013, like what are we talking about here
That's near impossible in the prem
The prem is the best/hardest league in the world and it's been that way forever
There's literally 6 top teams, all with money, fighting for a top 4 spot and you somehow think other leagues would be stronger?
Even Newcastle are a threat now ffs

Be serious for once

You're trying to argue that premier league is the best league in the world. For that you have to have the best teams and the best players in the world. How do we determine that? With a competition including the best teams from other countries. And in that competition english teams were dominated by spanish teams during the ronaldo/messi era. Meaning that the best teams and players did not in fact play in england. The competitivness argument is so ridiculously bad, cause it isnt the most competitive league in the first place

And now you're bringing in current time, while man city have won 5 of the last 6 titles, lmao. Newcastle a threat jesus, reminder they are 6th in the league rn, they are worse than real sociedad

 

[TheTakeoverHasBegun]

You're trying to argue that premier league is the best league in the world.

How do we determine that?

By looking at them through their league season
Your trying to change it into a different argument all together because you still have never gotten around how exactly la liga is the more competitive and tougher league
Your attempt at doing so was just strawman argument and changing topics all together
You can't debate

And now you're bringing in current time, while man city have won 5 of the last 6 titles

So?
Still competitive in nearly every season

Newcastle a threat jesus, reminder they are 6th in the league rn, they are worse than real sociedad

They are 6th, sociedad are 7th
Newcastle have 7 more goals, 4 less conceded

You are so bad this
Therefore I am bored

 

[HitAndRun]

Benzema>> Ronaldo

 

[Gargantuan]

5 point difference by the last week of January
No

Chelsea was top of the league for every month of that season, went on a 14-match unbeaten streak at the beginning of the season, and was the best team in the league by far that season. No one was going to keep up with them. City slipped up 0-2 at home against Arsenal that month, which essentially sealed their fate.

3 point difference by the last week of January
No

Arsenal, looking for their first title since 2004 and following a poor start, improved and in early January took the top spot from Leicester. However, a poor run of results, including draws with Liverpool,[16] Stoke City[17] and Southampton,[18] and a loss to Chelsea[19] saw them drop to fourth by mid-February.

Around the same period, like I said. Proven right again.

League wasn't won until the last 3 games
No

Serial losers Tottenham leapfrogging Chelsea, as if that was ever going to happen lmao. Chelsea were destined to be champions after beating City 1-3 away in December of that season.

5 point difference by end of January
No

City had the best team by far that season?? Who was going to put up a serious fight? Again, they were destined to be champions. As if that loser Ole was going to seriously challenge them lol

7 seasons you picked
Wrong on 4
Did you just look at the end of season table and pick one's that you thought you could get away with?
Lmao

So no, not really. And even if you wanted to make that case, City have won 5 out of the last 6 Premier League titles.
So much for muh competitive league
Lmao

 

[cytoplasm]

By looking at them through their league season
Your trying to change it into a different argument all together because you still have never gotten around how exactly la liga is the more competitive and tougher league
Your attempt at doing so was just strawman argument and changing topics all together
You can't debate

Bro youre the one who cant debate. Youre setting your own parameters, ignoring anything that doesnt work in your favor. If your argument is competitiveness then why isnt brasilian serie a better than pl? Their top 3 changes every season

So?
Still competitive in nearly every season

Competitive my ass, they just let their foot of the gas to make subhumans think they have a chance

They are 6th, sociedad are 7th
Newcastle have 7 more goals, 4 less conceded

They won more games in the champions league lol. And oh btw man utd (a highly competitive pl team) lost to turkish farmers at home, lmao at the best league in the world

You are so bad this
Therefore I am bored

dude youre the worst debater on the forum

 

[TheTakeoverHasBegun]

No one was going to keep up with them.

The way you determined this is by looking at the end of league results
Shite

Around the same period, like I said. Proven right again.

Why did you mention arsenal?
City was the team in second place by the end of January and with 6 point gd over LC

Serial losers Tottenham leapfrogging Chelsea, as if that was ever going to happen lmao. Chelsea were destined to be champions after beating City 1-3 away in December of that season.

You said the title was decided by January
Got proven wrong
Now you go with they "destined to win the title because they won a game 5 months before against a weak man city team"
Destiny?
What is this star wars?
Stop with this cringe fan fiction

City had the best team by far that season?? Who was going to put up a serious fight? Again, they were destined to be champions. As if that loser Ole was going to seriously challenge them lol

Fan fiction again

So no, not really

So yes, yes really

City have won 5 out of the last 6 Premier League titles.
So much for muh competitive league

So?
Still competitive in nearly every season

 

[spark]

It's why Ronaldo has better goals
Especially the longshots and bicycle kicks ykwim

Messi has way more long shots. Most CR7 goals are from inside the box.

 

[wsada]

Messi has way more long shots. Most CR7 goals are from inside the box.

More outside the box goals ≠ long shots

 

[tren_31]

Messi mogs him career and footboal wise, cr7 only in looks and admiration of little boys

 

[Navnith]

Own pesshit

Ronaldo won 5 champions leagues including 3 in a row whereas Messi only won 3 with uefalona

Messis world cup was so clearly rigged. That game against the Netherlands says it all. Red card should've been given to the player that kicked the ball at the bench and Messi handballed it. Also in the final the ref stopped play whilst France were counter attacking. Furthermore they had an Argentinian ref for ronaldos game in the quarter finals jfl.

Anyone who thinks the 2018 balon dor shouldn't have gone to Ronaldo is a dumb. Ask anyone before the award was given if it should go to modric and no one would've said so. Only after the matter did people justify modric winning it.

The 2020 balon dor during covid would've been awarded if Messi was the top contender.

The 2021 balon dor was the weakest balon dor win ever.

They literally changed the entire system for the balon dor and made it to be awarded to player of the season instead of player of the year just so it could be given to Messi for his performance at the world cuck.

Messi wins the 2023 balon dor for doing nothing other than winning the rigged world cuck and basically retiring at the end of the season achieving nothing domestically other than moving to a degenerate city in burgerland for a club who wears pink and is owned by a brickhead Brit. Meanwhile haaland breaks record after record playing in the hardest league in the world currently and wins the treble whilst being the top scorer.


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