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what is the best solution to recover my hair/stop lossing it (my dad got almost bold at 25-30)
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LackEmpathyTherefor said:
this is kinda true, that's why you need both for a comprehensive approach.

Also he's kinda wrong, as not only DHT but also testosterone can rape your hair, tho its potency at the AReceptor level is prolly like 5x less (idk the actual number but it's less)

But you WILL lose hair on 0 DHT but (normal + non converted testosterone) levels of testosterone, if you have the genetic predisposition and shit hair genetics.
That's why you need RU to block the testosterone. (tho ru supposedly might lose efficacy at doing so over time, not sure).
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thanks man
 
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imontheloose said:
Engineers get MEngs or MSc specialisations post-BEng. If an engineer has only a BEng from a boring uni, no one will care, it’s not impressive. There’s a reason I opted for MEng specialisation, I was told specifically on the plant I best do it or end up in finance somewhere because of uni halo.

I must say I do have nepo specifically in eng, but not my specialisation in particular
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optimisticzoomer said:
Engineering is a trash degree too
They’re all trash
If you wanna be an engineer, it’s better to just armed forces maxx and do it through that route

Engineering is just what people pick thinking it’s great, when the reality is bachelors degrees are worthless
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in my country doing a bachelor of engineeering and not doing a full 5 years of university is impossible. You wont get the title of engineer.
And i think it's ridiculous to call yourself an engineer after only 3(?) years for a bachelor.
 
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imontheloose said:
Engineers get MEngs or MSc specialisations post-BEng. If an engineer has only a BEng from a boring uni, no one will care, it’s not impressive. There’s a reason I opted for MEng specialisation, I was told specifically on the plant I best do it or end up in finance somewhere because of uni halo.

I must say I do have nepo specifically in eng, but not my specialisation in particular
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Masters degrees are not exclusive to engineering
Just phd maxx bro!
 
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LackEmpathyTherefor said:
in my country doing a bachelor of engineeering and not doing a full 5 years of university is impossible. You wont get the title of engineer.
And i think it's ridiculous to call yourself an engineer after only 3(?) years for a bachelor.
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We call that a “chartered engineer”. An MEng basically cuts the work experience requirement down by like a decade or two. An engineer with a BEng is really not an engineer, I agree
 
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optimisticzoomer said:
Masters degrees are not exclusive to engineering
Just phd maxx bro!
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Some guys here have very funny PhDs, gotta love a drcel in some bullshit like homosexual gorilla neurochemistry
 
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optimisticzoomer said:
Engineering is a trash degree too
They’re all trash
If you wanna be an engineer, it’s better to just armed forces maxx and do it through that route

Engineering is just what people pick thinking it’s great, when the reality is bachelors degrees are worthless
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I love the way 3 people jfl reacted to this when it’s correct
Work experience will always trump a degree
Most people don’t want to join the army/navy/air force, but the fact that doing so through the engineering pathway will lend far greater to your career in “engineering” than being churned out of a uni like a bunch of other surplus droids, is undeniable
 
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imontheloose said:
I will not let the fact you just grouped “engineering” next to “history” slide. You have declared war on imontheloose and his legion of supporters.

Latter points are true as well, but your degree is also the problem, inky boy. Even physics is versatile enough to do some random computing jobs or something. Most jobs at NLW will probably require a basic degree, I agree, but that’s bc @Jason Voorhees people have made it so every kebab vendor has a civil engineering degree.

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Engineer or Doctor. Anything else and you have failed at life from curry POV
 
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optimisticzoomer said:
through the engineering pathway
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This is not as easy as you think. They want MEngs. A guy I worked with did an apprenticeship in engineering instead and he got paid less than us and was far less respected. You’re thinking of the engineering bums that came out of Liverpool with ya with nothing valuable to their name, only a BEng
 
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imontheloose said:
This is not as easy as you think. They want MEngs. A guy I worked with did an apprenticeship in engineering instead and he got paid less than us and was far less respected. You’re thinking of the engineering bums that came out of Liverpool with ya with nothing valuable to their name, only a BEng
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This is cope
Going into the army at 18 and joining as an engineer (no degree required), working there for a few years, and then leaving, will leave you with far better opportunities than a 4 year degree, along with way too many others who also have that degree. Sunk cost fallacy tho

Southampton anyway, not Liverpool
 
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optimisticzoomer said:
This is cope
Going into the army at 18 and joining as an engineer (no degree required), working there for a few years, and then leaving, will leave you with far better opportunities than a 4 year degree, along with way too many others who also have that degree. Sunk cost fallacy tho

Southampton anyway, not Liverpool
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Sunk cost for me, yes. I’m not saying this is better myself, I come from a family of engineers, the army route is not a respected or reliable way to get engineering jobs. You can work on the plant, no problem, but you won’t have a high paying job in design at all.

You can go into the army part-time while at uni. Employers don’t care about how unique you are in that regard. They see you can’t design but you can do plant work well (it’s better paying than your jobs but not what most want in life).

Alongside your degree, you need to be working or doing some sort of internship, even volunteering, otherwise it’s over.
 
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imontheloose said:
Alongside your degree, you need to be working or doing some sort of internship, even volunteering, otherwise it’s over.
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This is what I said earlier
But you’re not blackpilled on uni. Tbh I think the ONLY degrees worth studying are medicine or veterinary medicine, if u don’t mind studying a long time. Shame I didn’t do a level chem, or I may have done vet medicine. Wouldn’t have maximised the opportunity anyway tbh
 
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optimisticzoomer said:
This is what I said earlier
But you’re not blackpilled on uni. Tbh I think the ONLY degrees worth studying are medicine or veterinary medicine, if u don’t mind studying a long time. Shame I didn’t do a level chem, or I may have done vet medicine. Wouldn’t have maximised the opportunity anyway tbh
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OP you have made my day. You have truly described what heaven is about.
 
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optimisticzoomer said:
This is what I said earlier
But you’re not blackpilled on uni. Tbh I think the ONLY degrees worth studying are medicine or veterinary medicine, if u don’t mind studying a long time. Shame I didn’t do a level chem, or I may have done vet medicine. Wouldn’t have maximised the opportunity anyway tbh
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What are y’all’s thought on the current market for engineers in healthcare ? Like biomed engineer
In my country it feels like entry salaries are lower but the industry is really stable.
 
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Ru58841+dutasteride+jxl069 to wake up some dormant hairs
 
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LackEmpathyTherefor said:
this is kinda true, that's why you need both for a comprehensive approach.

Also he's kinda wrong, as not only DHT but also testosterone can rape your hair, tho its potency at the AReceptor level is prolly like 5x less (idk the actual number but it's less)

But you WILL lose hair on 0 DHT but (normal + non converted testosterone) levels of testosterone, if you have the genetic predisposition and shit hair genetics.
That's why you need RU to block the testosterone. (tho ru supposedly might lose efficacy at doing so over time, not sure).
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Its way more than 5x androgenic in human hair follicles, that 5x figure is about how much more it stimulates an ar, molecule for molecule but doesnt take into account that dht is about atleast in vitro 10x stronger at causing gene expression of the genes that more directly causes hairloss like mmp's tgf etc so its more like 50x when you add them together
 
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escxpe said:
can i replace JXL069 with PP405? can't find JXL069
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Anageninc.com has jxl069, and if you could get pp405 then sure but i doubt theres any website that actually have it and arent just scamming
 
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hej1377 said:
Well the top option is obviously best you can even dilute it a bit so it lasts longer if yiud like
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i'll start with dut generic 2.5 mg/day + minoxidil lotion + ru58841

jxl069 would cost me 200-250$ per bottle
 
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escxpe said:
i'll start with dut generic 2.5 mg/day + minoxidil lotion + ru58841

jxl069 would cost me 200-250$ per bottle
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Yeah jxl isnt accutely needed, dut and ru is the important part

Jxl can be implemented whenever youd like to use it and then buy a bottle when you have some money left over and youve already woken up as amny follicles as you can with the other
 
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thanks man
hej1377 said:
Yeah jxl isnt accutely needed, dut and ru is the important part

Jxl can be implemented whenever youd like to use it and then buy a bottle when you have some money left over and youve already woken up as amny follicles as you can with the other
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hej1377 said:
Its way more than 5x androgenic in human hair follicles, that 5x figure is about how much more it stimulates an ar, molecule for molecule but doesnt take into account that dht is about atleast in vitro 10x stronger at causing gene expression of the genes that more directly causes hairloss like mmp's tgf etc so its more like 50x when you add them together
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yes idk the exact number.
What's jxl069 ? does it have the same mechanism of action as RU8841, or can you take them together ?
 
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LackEmpathyTherefor said:
yes idk the exact number.
What's jxl069 ? does it have the same mechanism of action as RU8841, or can you take them together ?
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No they are not the same, jxl boosts mitocondrial activity in the area so dormant follicles "wake up" while ru just stops androgens from deteriorating your follicles
 
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hej1377 said:
No they are not the same, jxl boosts mitocondrial activity in the area so dormant follicles "wake up" while ru just stops androgens from deteriorating your follicles
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is dut available in your country?

cuz i need a doctor's recipe to get it, they'll give me finasterid prob
 
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hej1377 said:
No they are not the same, jxl boosts mitocondrial activity in the area so dormant follicles "wake up" while ru just stops androgens from deteriorating your follicles
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Sounds nice.
Is it one of the drug supposed to be pp405 ?
Like the drug people are trying to guess from the company’s patent?

TBH my real problem isn’t hairline but the front of my hairline is miniaturized and can’t really grow thick or long(10mg minox and dut kinda helped with that tho).

If the top area was normal I could cover my forehead no problem
 
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hej1377 said:
No it seems like just unethical marketing from umbrella labs
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Oh alright.

How effective is it ?

TBH my real problem isn’t hairline but the front of my hairline is miniaturized and can’t really grow thick or long(10mg minox and dut kinda helped with that tho).

If the top area was normal I could cover my forehead no problem
 
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LackEmpathyTherefor said:
Oh alright.

How effective is it ?

TBH my real problem isn’t hairline but the front of my hairline is miniaturized and can’t really grow thick or long(10mg minox and dut kinda helped with that tho).

If the top area was normal I could cover my forehead no problem
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Well its still a research chem so we dont exactly know but it seems to work atleast from anecdotes and theory

Ghk cu could also help your hair follicle thickness
 
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