running 500 test weekly soon, is bulking even worth it?

[jaez799]

Title, I want to pack on as much muscle as possible but I also hate being fat, will the test be so anabolic I can just maingain/cut and still build muscle? lmk

 

[BR32]

no bulking is never worth it excess calories don't contribute to more muscle even on roids.

Food isn't a growth stimulus

 

[samgrattlescouilles]

Slight calorie surplus dont fall for the gymcell 1000 calorie surplus you will end up fat and bloated 500 test is anabolic enough to make amazing gains on a slight surplus

 

[care]

Title, I want to pack on as much muscle as possible but I also hate being fat, will the test be so anabolic I can just maingain/cut and still build muscle? lmk

Whats your current physique like?

and yes test is very anabolic brazz

 

[jaez799]

Slight calorie surplus dont fall for the gymcell 1000 calorie surplus you will end up fat and bloated 500 test is anabolic enough to make amazing gains on a slight surplus

what should my diet look like

 

[BR32]

what should my diet look like

You need to go do some more research on training, diet, hypertrophy, physiology, and anabolic pharmacology before you get on gear or you're gonna hurt yourself and make very mid gains.

 

[jaez799]

Whats your current physique like?

and yes test is very anabolic brazz

i have fat on me cause im currently bulking cause i hated being 5’9 120 pounds im currently 5’9 170. good amount is fat tbf

 

[jaez799]

You need to go do some more research on training, diet, hypertrophy, physiology, and anabolic pharmacology before you get on gear or you're gonna hurt yourself and make very mid gains.

i couldn’t care less abt hurting myself i wanna look good now and deal with repercussions later in life

 

[aids]

Title, I want to pack on as much muscle as possible but I also hate being fat, will the test be so anabolic I can just maingain/cut and still build muscle? lmk

no bulking is never worth it excess calories don't contribute to more muscle even on roids.

Food isn't a growth stimulus

@chadisbeingmade

 

[samgrattlescouilles]

what should my diet look like

Standart gymcel diet mostly protein and carbs good quality foods you can also eat whatever goyslop you like as long as it fits your macros but you might up bloated

 

[youngmogGod]

Title, I want to pack on as much muscle as possible but I also hate being fat, will the test be so anabolic I can just maingain/cut and still build muscle? lmk

there is no scenario where bulking is worth it ever unless you are an anorexic then thats the one and only exception.

 

[care]

View attachment 4444526View attachment 4444530i have fat on me cause im currently bulking cause i hated being 5’9 120 pounds im currently 5’9 170. good amount is fat tbf

Ur first test cycle should always be a bulk, NOT a dirty bulk but a lean bulk, slight 300-400 calorie surplus above maintenance to maximize gains while on test, Also id recommend 400 instead of 500, the 500 bloat is real personally, And throw in some var, also you might burn some fat too, but Either way id say lean bulk and then just cut sometime later if u want to.

 

[jaez799]

there is no scenario where bulking is worth it ever unless you are an anorexic then thats the one and only exception.

i was 5’9 120 looked skinny and my face bloated and shit i had to put on muscle. Also it’s a halo tbf

 

[jaez799]

Ur first test cycle should always be a bulk, NOT a dirty bulk but a lean bulk, slight 300-400 calorie surplus above maintenance to maximize gains while on test, Also id recommend 400 instead of 500, the 500 bloat is real personally, And throw in some var, also you might burn some fat too, but Either way id say lean bulk and then just cut sometime later if u want to.

i gotta lock in on my diet tbh i’ve always ate like shit but imma get it right on gear. I’m kinda scared to take var or any other orals cause it’s my first cycle, i don’t know how i’ll react. Is it worth it tho?

 

[youngmogGod]

just eat at ur maintenance maybe 100 above at most and train hard as fuck while running ur stack. you don't need a huge surplus or a surplus at all.

 

[jaez799]

just eat at ur maintenance maybe 100 above at most and train hard as fuck while running ur stack. you don't need a huge surplus or a surplus at all.

bet sounds good

 

[care]

i gotta lock in on my diet tbh i’ve always ate like shit but imma get it right on gear. I’m kinda scared to take var or any other orals cause it’s my first cycle, i don’t know how i’ll react. Is it worth it tho?

Its not that strong, Im on my first cycle (400 test, 25 anavar) im also taking 20mg of accutane e3d, so Don’t be worried, Also diet is very much key on a cycle

 

[BR32]

i couldn’t care less abt hurting myself i wanna look good now and deal with repercussions later in life

@chadisbeingmade

Argue with a wall bro mechanical tension is the only growth stimulus for hypertrophy in naturals. And in roids are a different physiologic mechanism entirely and literally the whole point of steroids is to amplify signaling it doesn't meaningfully increase the energetic cost of building muscle.

The reason people gain better in a slight surplus is because they are actually getting sufficent carbs and protein and fat not because excess calories are going to muscle that doesn't even make sense.

Excess calories don't help because MPS doesn't require very much energy and is already included. in maintenance caloric intake.

 

[aryanroidfaper]

Title, I want to pack on as much muscle as possible but I also hate being fat, will the test be so anabolic I can just maingain/cut and still build muscle? lmk

Lean is law nigga

 

[jaez799]

Ur first test cycle should always be a bulk, NOT a dirty bulk but a lean bulk, slight 300-400 calorie surplus above maintenance to maximize gains while on test, Also id recommend 400 instead of 500, the 500 bloat is real personally, And throw in some var, also you might burn some fat too, but Either way id say lean bulk and then just cut sometime later if u want to.

honestly i’ll run the var im here to ascend and get jacked fuck it idc abt side effects, i just dont know how to run it and i dont want side effects like acne or moon face, idc abt side effects like shortening my life span. how do you run it?

 

[care]

honestly i’ll run the var im here to ascend and get jacked fuck it idc abt side effects, i just dont know how to run it and i dont want side effects like acne or moon face, idc abt side effects like shortening my life span. how do you run it?

Anavar is ran 4-6 weeks max, preferably at 25mg, it gives a grainy dry look while on cycle, id recommend adding anavar at week 4-5 on your cycle, And no u won’t shorten ur life span on steroids, Im 17 brah nothing to be scared of

 

[BR32]

honestly i’ll run the var im here to ascend and get jacked fuck it idc abt side effects, i just dont know how to run it and i dont want side effects like acne or moon face, idc abt side effects like shortening my life span. how do you run it?

Go watch MPMD bro

 

[wastedspermcel]

i couldn’t care less abt hurting myself i wanna look good now and deal with repercussions later in life

retarded, you will regret this

 

[BR32]

retarded, you will regret this

Yeah its a braindead mindset its more optimal for gains and aesthetics to not ruin your health like a retard.

Also you make better gains anyways.

 

[jaez799]

retarded, you will regret this

shut up retard, when ur a boneless skinny lmtn you don’t have much to live for anyways my life starts with this cycle and surgery

 

[jaez799]

Anavar is ran 4-6 weeks max, preferably at 25mg, it gives a grainy dry look while on cycle, id recommend adding anavar at week 4-5 on your cycle, And no u won’t shorten ur life span on steroids, Im 17 brah nothing to be scared of

does it dry you out? i’m def running accutane on cycle and i ran it before and it dried my lips and skin out bad, will it contribute to that?

 

[BR32]

shut up retard, when ur a boneless skinny lmtn you don’t have much to live for anyways my life starts with this cycle and surgery

Nobody saying not to run test just don't run it stupidly

 

[wastedspermcel]

Its not that strong, Im on my first cycle (400 test, 25 anavar) im also taking 20mg of accutane e3d, so Don’t be worried, Also diet is very much key on a cycle

U take an ai or any ancillaries?

 

[care]

U take an ai or any ancillaries?

no ai rn i do have aromasin if needed

ancillaries currently is Finasteride, also got telmisartan in hand

vitamins n omega3

 

[wastedspermcel]

Nobody saying not to run test just don't run it stupidly

Exactly

shut up retard, when ur a boneless skinny lmtn you don’t have much to live for anyways my life starts with this cycle and surgery

And what happens when your life actually does become better? You'd obviously care about longevity then. And anyway if you run roids like a retard your chances of ascending will be much smaller.

Just do some proper fucking research for a few weeks, it's worth it

 

[care]

does it dry you out? i’m def running accutane on cycle and i ran it before and it dried my lips and skin out bad, will it contribute to that?

just run low dose accutane, 20mg doesn’t dry my lips and works perfectly fine, and anavar doesn’t try u out LIKE that

 

[wastedspermcel]

no ai rn i do have aromasin if needed

ancillaries currently is Finasteride, also got telmisartan in hand

vitamins n omega3

do u not feel like tudca/nac arent necsessary?

 

[care]

do u not feel like tudca/nac arent necsessary?

They are good, i personally use gat sport liver clense which is just milk thistle n other stuff

I think you need NAC more if ur running heavy orals, superdrol etc

 

[wastedspermcel]

They are good, i personally use gat sport liver clense which is just milk thistle n other stuff

I think you need NAC more if ur running heavy orals, superdrol etc

Idk much abt roiding so I'm kinda confused, would it still not be better to take either one of them on test+var just to be safe? Or is there some sort of risk/side effects associated with taking tudca/nac?

 

[jaez799]

just run low dose accutane, 20mg doesn’t dry my lips and works perfectly fine, and anavar doesn’t try u out LIKE that

wait what mg are you running anavar at, and how many capsules would i need for a 15 week cycle of 500 test e weekly

 

[care]

wait what mg are you running anavar at, and how many capsules would i need for a 15 week cycle of 500 test e weekly

I run 25mg, so you would need around 42 capsules for 6 weeks of anavar, you shouldn’t run it any longer.

most anavar is sold 25mg x 50 capsules so ur chilling

 

[jaez799]

I run 25mg, so you would need around 42 capsules for 6 weeks of anavar, you shouldn’t run it any longer.

most anavar is sold 25mg x 50 capsules so ur chilling

my guy sells it in 30 count so imma just get the 60 have 10 left over ig

 

[molecule8]

Title, I want to pack on as much muscle as possible but I also hate being fat, will the test be so anabolic I can just maingain/cut and still build muscle? lmk

your tradeoff is being sub5 during bulk up until the eventual cut

do you want to sacrifice your PSL for months for a few more pounds of muscle? or have high PSL the whole time and lose some gains

cut first. never bulk from a shit base

 

[jaez799]

your tradeoff is being sub5 during bulk up until the eventual cut

do you want to sacrifice your PSL for months for a few more pounds of muscle? or have high PSL the whole time and lose some gains

cut first. never bulk from a shit base

true. muscle lets u slay