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SARMs Guide:

Introduction to SARMs


Selective Androgen Receptor Modulators, or SARMs, are compounds designed to target androgen receptors primarily in muscle and bone tissues. Originally developed to address conditions like muscle wasting, SARMs have gained popularity in fitness for their potential muscle growth benefits, providing an avenue for substantial muscle development.

Understanding SERMs and Their Role in Mitigating Testosterone Suppression

To counter the testosterone suppression caused by SARMs, individuals often incorporate Selective Estrogen Receptor Modulators (SERMs) into their post-cycle therapy (PCT). This protocol aims to restore the body's natural hormone balance by stimulating the production of LH and FSH, crucial for testosterone production. SERMs, such as Enclomiphene and Tamoxifen, act as estrogen in specific tissues while blocking its negative feedback on the hypothalamus, facilitating the release of LH and FSH. This helps kickstart natural testosterone production, minimizing the risk of side effects associated with low testosterone levels.

Best SERMs in the Market

- Enclomiphene (Androxal)
- T
amoxifen (Nolvadex)

Important Note:

When using SARMs, incorporating a SERM is crucial to prevent Testosterone Suppression and alleviate associated symptoms.

Beginner Bulking Stack:
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Ligandrol (LGD-4033)- Week 1-8: 5mg/day

PCT (Optional): Tamoxifen (Nolvadex)

- Week 9-12: 20mg/day


Comment:

This beginner-friendly bulking cycle is effective with optional PCT. Tamoxifen can be taken from weeks 4 to 8 as a SARM+SERM combination, minimizing hormonal imbalances and preserving gained muscle mass. Users may experience gains of up to 8lbs.

Intermediate Bulking Cycle (SERM+SARM): Testolone (Rad 140), MK-677, Tamoxifen
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Cycle Timeline:
- Week 1-8: 10mg/day Rad140*
- Week 5-8: 20mg/day Tamoxifen (SERM)

- Week 1-12: MK677

Comment:

This cycle introduces a more potent SARM and Ibutamoren, enhancing the effects of Testolone. Adjusting Testolone dosage may require the addition of Tamoxifen to offset testosterone suppression. Expect gains of up to 15lbs, with 8-10lbs being muscle.

Advanced Bulking Cycle (SERM+SARM) - High Toxicity Warning
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- Week 1-4: LGD-3303 10mg/day
- Week 5-8: LGD-3303 15mg/day
- Week 1-8: YK-11 5mg/day
- Week 1-7: Enclomiphene 25mg EOD

- Week 8-10: 12.5mg EOD

Comment:

A highly suppressive cycle, incorporating Enclomiphene or 4-Andro and a 4-week PCT is recommended. Expect gains of up to 12lbs of lean muscle.


Beginner Cutting Cycle (Optional PCT):
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- Week 1-8: Ostarine 20mg/day
- Week 9-12: Tamoxifen 20mg/day (if experiencing suppression symptoms

Comment:

An effective cutting cycle for beginners with optional PCT. Tamoxifen can be used as a SARM+SERM combination. Users may experience fat loss and muscle preservation without significant side effects.

Intermediate Cutting Cycle (SERM+SARM):
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- Week 1-8: Testolone10mg/day
- Week 5-7: Tamoxifen 20mg/day
- Week 8: Tamoxifen 10mg/day

Comment:

This intermediate cutting cycle uses Testolone with a steady dose throughout. Incorporating Tamoxifen during the second half helps counter suppression, enabling muscle preservation during a calorie deficit.

Advanced Cutting Cycle (SERM+SARM): S-23
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- Week 1-8: S-23 20mg/day (increase to 30mg/day if well-tolerated on week 5)
- Week 1-11: Enclomiphene 25mg EOD
- Week 12: Enclomiphene 12.5mg EOD

This is what im running so far im on week 3 no sides right now
Comment:

An enhanced version of the intermediate cycle, featuring S-23 for increased strength and muscle mass during fat loss. Expect a dry, veiny appearance. Use a powerful SERM like Enclomiphene to counter testicular shutdown.

DISCLAIMER:
This guide does not constitute medical advice. SARMs are not approved for human consumption.

Important Reminder:
Effective use of SARMs requires meticulous meal tracking and consistent daily nutrition. Food is crucial for growth.
If you aren't gonna do this then don't start waste of time


Why should you get SARMs instead of Test?

Selective Androgen Receptor Modulators (SARMs) are often considered a safer alternative to anabolic-androgenic steroids for several reasons:

1. Targeted Action: SARMs are designed to selectively target androgen receptors in muscle and bone tissue, which minimizes their impact on other organs and reduces the risk of side effects associated with steroids[1][2].

2. Fewer Side Effects: Clinical studies and anecdotal evidence from users suggest that SARMs have fewer overall side effects compared to steroids. They are associated with less risk for serious long-term side effects and are generally better tolerated[2].

3. Non-Suppressive: Unlike steroids, SARMs do not typically suppress natural testosterone production to the same extent, which is important for maintaining hormonal balance and reducing the risk of adverse effects on other organs[3].

4. Legal Status: SARMs can be legally sold as research chemicals, although it is illegal to sell and buy them packaged in capsules for human consumption or labeled as dietary supplements. Steroids, on the other hand, are generally illegal to use without a prescription for conditions like hypogonadism[3][5].

5. Clinical Data: The latest clinical data indicates that SARMs are significantly safer than anabolic steroids, with better long-term research subject outcomes[2].

However, it's important to note that SARMs are not without risks. They have been found to reduce endogenous testosterone, affect cholesterol levels, and alter liver function. The long-term effects of SARMs on the body remain largely unknown, and more clinical studies are needed to fully understand their pharmacokinetic profiles and potential adverse effects[1][3].

Additionally, the market for SARMs is not well-regulated, and products marketed as containing SARMs may not contain them, or they may contain other unapproved drugs. This poses significant safety concerns[1].

In summary, while SARMs are considered to have a safer profile than steroids, they are still associated with potential risks, and their use should be approached with caution. It's also worth noting that both SARMs and steroids are banned by the World Anti-Doping Agency for use in sports[1][5].

Citations:
[1] https://www.uspharmacist.com/article/recreational-use-of-selective-androgen-receptor-modulators
[2] https://www.sltrib.com/sponsored/2023/06/15/sarms-vs-steroids-are-sarms-safer/
[3] https://muscleandbrawn.com/sarms/sarms-vs-steroids/
[4] https://www.goodrx.com/well-being/movement-exercise/what-are-sarms
[5] https://crazybulk.com/blogs/news/sarms-vs-steroids-difference
[6] https://www.setforset.com/blogs/news/sarms-vs-steroids
[7] https://www.deccanherald.com/brands...ms-safer-legal-for-muscle-growth-1226199.html
[8] https://www.predatornutrition.com/articlesdetail
[9] https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34471228/
[10] https://www.dailyuw.com/ask_the_exp...cle_fa57983e-0858-11ed-bdc3-7f547cba51ff.html



Sources:
Trusted Companies
- CHEMYO (USA)
- CAMOCHEM (UK & EU)
- SWISSCHEMS (USA)
- MR.SARM (OCEANIA)
- AMINO ASYLUM (USA)
- DXB-SUPPS (OCEANIA & USA)
Companies to Avoid
- PureRawz (USA)
- BehemothLabz (USA)


Chemyo:
they only offer SARMs, MK-677, Cardarine, Nootropics, and RU-58841.

CAMOCHEM:
Their catalog is not massive but they offer the essentials and some very rare chemicals like LGD 3303, Enclomiphene, CJC and FRAG 176-191. All of their products are independently HPLC tested by a third party and very high quality. Besides that, they’re also very fairly priced.

SWISSCHEMS (USA):
They have the largest catalog of products, including everything from SARMs to PCT, Peptides, and other research chemicals, even male enhancement drugs. Their products are independently HPLC tested by a third party and very high quality.

MR.SARM (OCEANIA):
MR.SARM is one of the very few legitimate Australian domestic sources. Their competitors simply don’t have the same variety or reputation. If you live in Australia or New Zealand, this has to be your go-to source.

AMINO ASYLUM (USA):
Amino Asylum is a US-based vendor for SARMs, Aminos, Peptides, and other chemicals. Their peptide sprays, injectable SARMs, and wide selection of SERMs among other things are products you won’t find anywhere else.

DXB-SUPPS (OCEANIA & USA)
DXBSupps is an Australian source that carries Peptides and SARMs, so they have a decent offering that is hard to find in other Australian companies.
 

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Why should you get SARMs instead of Test?

Selective Androgen Receptor Modulators (SARMs) are often considered a safer alternative to anabolic-androgenic steroids for several reasons:

1. Targeted Action: SARMs are designed to selectively target androgen receptors in muscle and bone tissue, which minimizes their impact on other organs and reduces the risk of side effects associated with steroids[1][2].

2. Fewer Side Effects: Clinical studies and anecdotal evidence from users suggest that SARMs have fewer overall side effects compared to steroids. They are associated with less risk for serious long-term side effects and are generally better tolerated[2].

3. Non-Suppressive: Unlike steroids, SARMs do not typically suppress natural testosterone production to the same extent, which is important for maintaining hormonal balance and reducing the risk of adverse effects on other organs[3].

4. Legal Status: SARMs can be legally sold as research chemicals, although it is illegal to sell and buy them packaged in capsules for human consumption or labeled as dietary supplements. Steroids, on the other hand, are generally illegal to use without a prescription for conditions like hypogonadism[3][5].

5. Clinical Data: The latest clinical data indicates that SARMs are significantly safer than anabolic steroids, with better long-term research subject outcomes[2].

However, it's important to note that SARMs are not without risks. They have been found to reduce endogenous testosterone, affect cholesterol levels, and alter liver function. The long-term effects of SARMs on the body remain largely unknown, and more clinical studies are needed to fully understand their pharmacokinetic profiles and potential adverse effects[1][3].

Additionally, the market for SARMs is not well-regulated, and products marketed as containing SARMs may not contain them, or they may contain other unapproved drugs. This poses significant safety concerns[1].

In summary, while SARMs are considered to have a safer profile than steroids, they are still associated with potential risks, and their use should be approached with caution. It's also worth noting that both SARMs and steroids are banned by the World Anti-Doping Agency for use in sports[1][5].

Citations:
[1] https://www.uspharmacist.com/article/recreational-use-of-selective-androgen-receptor-modulators
[2] https://www.sltrib.com/sponsored/2023/06/15/sarms-vs-steroids-are-sarms-safer/
[3] https://muscleandbrawn.com/sarms/sarms-vs-steroids/
[4] https://www.goodrx.com/well-being/movement-exercise/what-are-sarms
[5] https://crazybulk.com/blogs/news/sarms-vs-steroids-difference
[6] https://www.setforset.com/blogs/news/sarms-vs-steroids
[7] https://www.deccanherald.com/brands...ms-safer-legal-for-muscle-growth-1226199.html
[8] https://www.predatornutrition.com/articlesdetail
[9] https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34471228/
[10] https://www.dailyuw.com/ask_the_exp...cle_fa57983e-0858-11ed-bdc3-7f547cba51ff.html
add to thread, edit and cut paste
 
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I rarely see threads from greycels with proper citation and good formating. Good job OP.
 
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Definitely a good thread for those interested in sarms, however I feel like they are trash and should not be taken. To each their own, but I don’t see the point in it, unless your a gymcel.
 
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Definitely a good thread for those interested in sarms, however I feel like they are trash and should not be taken. To each their own, but I don’t see the point in it, unless your a gymcel.
You didn't read the article i made retard please kys
 
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@Squirtle ban? him plz lol @AlbinoMaxxer
 
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You didn't read the article i made retard please kys
I did read the thread. Sarms are very suppresive btw and test is the only thing you should take imo. Please give me an arguement to how sarms can be better than test.
 
I did read the thread. Sarms are very suppresive btw and test is the only thing you should take imo. Please give me an arguement to how sarms can be better than test.
If u read the article you would have seen what i said about sarms and test so go read and come back
 
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@ConfusedBolivian Test goblin check this out :)
 
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If u read the article you would have seen what i said about sarms and test so go read and come back
Yes ik, but I still don’t think you should take sarms. If your happy to take them, then take them.
 
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Less research, worse risk/reward. Just safer and better results. Its a no brainer to take test imo
Give me 1 citation test is hard to get
 
Dnr but very good formatting from a greycel.
Treat this comment as a bump
 
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worthless post because gym with sarms or no sarms is cope
 
worthless post because gym with sarms or no sarms is cope
tell me ur stupid without telling me ur stupid

Physical Fitness and Attractiveness

Research has shown that most women are attracted to men who are more muscular, stronger, and leaner compared to men who are smaller, weaker, and fatter[7]. This preference can be attributed to evolutionary and social factors where a fit, healthy, and athletic body is seen as an indicator of desirable traits such as discipline, determination, patience, perseverance, and self-respect[7]. These traits can be appealing from a partner selection perspective, as they may signal the ability to provide protection and stability.

Optimal Physique According to Research

To maximize attractiveness to women, research suggests that men only need to gain about 20 to 30 pounds of muscle and reduce their body fat percentage to 8 to 12%[7]. This indicates that while women do appreciate a muscular and lean physique, there is a point of diminishing returns where additional muscle mass may not significantly increase attractiveness and could potentially be less appealing[7]. This finding suggests that the goal for men aiming to improve their physical attractiveness should be to achieve a well-balanced and proportionate physique rather than striving for extreme muscularity.

Specific Traits Women Find Attractive

Studies have also explored more specific traits that women find attractive in men. For instance, women's preferences for men's facial masculinity are stronger under certain conditions, suggesting that facial features can also play a role in attractiveness[2]. Moreover, women are typically attracted to strength, power, and muscle, which are closely tied to fitness[3]. This preference aligns with the broader

Citations:
[1]
[2] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6399235/
[3] https://plus.catholicmatch.com/articles/working-out-is-good
[4] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3534680/
[5] https://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/building-the-body-women-want.html
[6] https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/0092656675900069
[7] https://legionathletics.com/attractive-body/
[8] https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/1474704919852918
[9] https://discover.hubpages.com/health/Exercise-this-muscle-to-attract-women
[10] https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s44202-023-00108-z
[11] https://generationiron.com/exercise-improves-dating-experience/
[12] https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rspb.2017.1819
[13] https://vocal.media/humans/a-scientific-study-are-fit-people-more-attractive
[14] https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/1474704919852918
[15] https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/psychology/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2019.00544/full
 
Advanced Bulking Cycle (SERM+SARM) - High Toxicity Warning
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- Week 1-4: LGD-3303 10mg/day
- Week 5-8: LGD-3303 15mg/day
- Week 1-8: YK-11 5mg/day
- Week 1-7: Enclomiphene 25mg EOD

- Week 8-10: 12.5mg EOD
WTF is this low iq???? only one SARM can bind to the androgen receptor, taking multiple SARMS does nothing but tax your liver


good formatting but awful info
 
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WTF is this low iq???? only one SARM can bind to the androgen receptor, taking multiple SARMS does nothing but tax your liver


good formatting but awful info
YK11 isn't a sarm private school kid btw
 
bro if u take LGD and Yk11, the LGD will bind to the AR since its strongest and the YK will do jack shit.

0, water, dnrd, unrepped.
 
bro if u take LGD and Yk11, the LGD will bind to the AR since its strongest and the YK will do jack shit.

0, water, dnrd, unrepped.
YK11's is a myostatin inhibitor sets it apart from traditional SARMs.
 
YK11 isn't a sarm private school kid btw
Yes it is jfl

enjoy death to ur liver, my liver is dead from doing this stupid shit
 
Yes it is jfl

enjoy death to ur liver, my liver is dead from doing this stupid shit
YK11 is indeed a myostatin inhibitor, which sets it apart from traditional Selective Androgen Receptor Modulators (SARMs). Myostatin is a natural limiter of muscle growth, and by inhibiting it, YK11 may potentially allow for increased muscle growth and strength by reducing the natural braking mechanism on muscle development[3]. This unique mechanism of action as a myostatin inhibitor distinguishes YK11 from other compounds and highlights its potential to enhance muscle mass and strength gains[3].

Citations:
[1] https://www.times-standard.com/2023/12/18/yk-11-sarm-review-results-dose-cycling-side-effects-more/
[2] https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S096007602300119X
[3] https://swolverine.com/blogs/blog/yk-11-myostatin-inhibitor-does-it-really-work
[4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YK-11
[5] https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0006291X21000668
 
YK11's is a myostatin inhibitor sets it apart from traditional SARMs.
bruh, its a SARM with another mech of action. Still is bad to run 2 sarms at once
 
YK11 is indeed a myostatin inhibitor, which sets it apart from traditional Selective Androgen Receptor Modulators (SARMs). Myostatin is a natural limiter of muscle growth, and by inhibiting it, YK11 may potentially allow for increased muscle growth and strength by reducing the natural braking mechanism on muscle development[3]. This unique mechanism of action as a myostatin inhibitor distinguishes YK11 from other compounds and highlights its potential to enhance muscle mass and strength gains[3].

Citations:
[1] https://www.times-standard.com/2023/12/18/yk-11-sarm-review-results-dose-cycling-side-effects-more/
[2] https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S096007602300119X
[3] https://swolverine.com/blogs/blog/yk-11-myostatin-inhibitor-does-it-really-work
[4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YK-11
[5] https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0006291X21000668
chat gpt, dnrd. YK11 is a sarm regardless, it just has an added benefit of myostatin inhibition

which btw does nothing.
 
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chat gpt, dnrd. YK11 is a sarm regardless, it just has an added benefit of myostatin inhibition

which btw does nothing.
Lol bro
 
SERMS ARE NOT A SUFFICIENT TEST BASE.

You need to use the SERM all the way through the cycle. The minute the sarm begins to kick in, your natural test will tank. This can happen after only a few days. And even then the problem with serms is that, realistically speaking, they do not provide enough estrogen unless you push the SERM dose ridiculously high (which comes with alot of issues in and of itself so thats out of the picture). Anyway insufficient estrogen is very bad. Firstly estrogen is essential in muscle growth, second estrogen is neuroprotective, and is one of the main hormones that plays a role in the synthesis of serotonin (the feel-good neurochemical). So without it, be ready to be depressed and anxious all the time. Stick to using SERMs as pct like they are designed for.

So what is an actual solution to this problem then? No "test" base. (Yes I'm serious). If you are taking sarms, the sarms are replacing the natural test in your body already, so all you need to account for is the lack of estrogen. So simply, supplement with DHEA and pregnanolone. This has been done for years with guys who use nandrolone as TRT. Nanodrolone like sarms does not really convert to estradiol so supplementing with estrogen solves that issue and allows you to run nandrolone as trt instead of testosterone.

If you want my honest opinion though, stay away from sarms. They don't build nearly as much muscle for basically an equal ammount of side effects they have as compared to running low dose oral anabolics. Or you could just not be a pussy and pin, and save your liver alot of stress.

Yk 11 is kinda cool though because of its myostatin properties. Everything else is shit. Rad 140 is a shittier version of superdrol, and lgd 4033 is basically dbol, which is also shit, but at least it makes you feel good. Anyway if you ask me, steer clear of sarms. Maybe in the future some better sarms will be developed but at this point almost of them are an objectively worse version of steroids in almost every way.
 
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SERMS ARE NOT A SUFFICIENT TEST BASE.

You need to use the SERM all the way through the cycle. The minute the sarm begins to kick in, your natural test will tank. This can happen after only a few days. And even then the problem with serms is that, realistically speaking, they do not provide enough estrogen unless you push the SERM dose ridiculously high (which comes with alot of issues in and of itself), insufficient estrogen is very bad. Firstly estrogen is essential in muscle growth, second estrogen is neuroprotective, and is one of the main hormones that plays a role in the synthesis of serotonin (the feel-good neurochemical). So without it, be ready to be depressed and anxious all the time. Stick to using SERMs as pct like they are designed for.

So what is an actual solution to this problem then? No "test" base. (Yes I'm serious). If you are taking sarms, the sarms are replacing the natural test in your body already, so all you need to account for is the lack of estrogen. So simply, supplement with DHEA and pregnanolone. This has been done for years with guys who use nandrolone as TRT. Nanodrolone like sarms does not really convert to estradiol so supplementing with estrogen solves that issue and allows you to run nandrolone as trt instead of testosterone.

If you want my honest opinion though, stay away from sarms. They really don't build all the much muscle for the nearly equal ammount of side effects they have as compared to running low dose oral anabolics.
exactly so much is off here
 
SERMS ARE NOT A SUFFICIENT TEST BASE.

You need to use the SERM all the way through the cycle. The minute the sarm begins to kick in, your natural test will tank. This can happen after only a few days. And even then the problem with serms is that, realistically speaking, they do not provide enough estrogen unless you push the SERM dose ridiculously high (which comes with alot of issues in and of itself), insufficient estrogen is very bad. Firstly estrogen is essential in muscle growth, second estrogen is neuroprotective, and is one of the main hormones that plays a role in the synthesis of serotonin (the feel-good neurochemical). So without it, be ready to be depressed and anxious all the time. Stick to using SERMs as pct like they are designed for.

So what is an actual solution to this problem then? No "test" base. (Yes I'm serious). If you are taking sarms, the sarms are replacing the natural test in your body already, so all you need to account for is the lack of estrogen. So simply, supplement with DHEA and pregnanolone. This has been done for years with guys who use nandrolone as TRT. Nanodrolone like sarms does not really convert to estradiol so supplementing with estrogen solves that issue and allows you to run nandrolone as trt instead of testosterone.

If you want my honest opinion though, stay away from sarms. They really don't build all the much muscle for the nearly equal ammount of side effects they have as compared to running low dose oral anabolics.
You are wrong buddy SARMs kick in week 4
 
Okay please give me evidence of claims like i did @ylrven @dark-red-pill
 
Okay if u aren't giving me evidence of claims please kys
 

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