SARMS with pct is it risky? [16)

[Azie555]

ANYTHING THAT MIMICS TESTOSTERONE WILL OBVIOUSLY DECREASE ENDOGENOUS TESTOSTERONE.
OBVIOUSLY YOU SHOULD USE PCT.
RAD-140 IS SHIT, DON'T USE SARMS, JUST BE A BIG BOY AND STICK A 25G NEEDLE INTO YOUR REAR.

hgh and mk dont need to use pct tho cuz the test and gh goes back to normal after

 

[Copercel]

ANYTHING THAT MIMICS TESTOSTERONE WILL OBVIOUSLY DECREASE ENDOGENOUS TESTOSTERONE.
OBVIOUSLY YOU SHOULD USE PCT.
RAD-140 IS SHIT, DON'T USE SARMS, JUST BE A BIG BOY AND STICK A 25G NEEDLE INTO YOUR REAR.

In 95% of people, the suppression is reversible without PCT . It’s stupid to do PCT, such a waste of time.

* it depends on your dose and compound of course btw.

 

[Azie555]

thanks a lot g

aye bro i just realized you didnt send the other links for mk diabetes shi you sent the same link for 4 times

 

[Copercel]

aye bro i just realized you didnt send the other links for mk diabetes shi you sent the same link for 4 times

I edited it.

 

[Copercel]

aye bro i just realized you didnt send the other links for mk diabetes shi you sent the same link for 4 times

The risks are common.

 

[Azie555]

The risks are common.

but it says in the paper its only risky if its taken high dosage and for longer periods and i also looked at a another paper that says hgh can also cause diabetes even with low dosages

 

[Copercel]

but it says in the paper its only risky if its taken high dosage and for longer periods and i also looked at a another paper that says hgh can also cause diabetes even with low dosages

 

[Azie555]

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this is the paper for hgh

 

[Copercel]

but it says in the paper its only risky if its taken high dosage and for longer periods and i also looked at a another paper that says hgh can also cause diabetes even with low dosages

“The key takeaway: even at clinical doses (25 mg/day), MK‑677 affects blood sugar regulation and can increase diabetes risk in some individuals.”
It’s in the study.

 

[Azie555]

“The key takeaway: even at clinical doses (25 mg/day), MK‑677 affects blood sugar regulation and can increase diabetes risk in some individuals.”
It’s in the study.

yeah its true but hgh has the same risk too

 

[Copercel]

“The key takeaway: even at clinical doses (25 mg/day), MK‑677 affects blood sugar regulation and can increase diabetes risk in some individuals.”
It’s in the study.

Also read the other study I sent- https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article-abstract/81/12/4249/2650464

It explains better how Mk can cause diabetes even at low dosages.

 

[Copercel]

yeah its true but hgh has the same risk too

Not at 5IU tho. And like I said it have more ROI, so its more worth it.

 

[Copercel]

Not at 5IU tho. And like I said it have more ROI, so its more worth it.

And you can also always use ancillaries like berb and metformin.

 

[Azie555]

Also read the other study I sent- https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article-abstract/81/12/4249/2650464

It explains better how Mk can cause diabetes even at low dosages.

where does it explain mk can cause diabetes at low dosages on that paper i cant see?

 

[McSkziofren]

positive canthal tilt

 

[Azie555]

Not at 5IU tho. And like I said it have more ROI, so its more worth it.

5iu is not a low dosage? it says i can even cause diabetes on low dosages tho?

 

[Copercel]

where does it explain mk can cause diabetes at low dosages on that paper i cant see?

“In the 1996 study, MK-677 at 25 mg/day significantly increased fasting glucose levels, rising from 5.4 to 6.8 mmol/L over 4 weeks (P < 0.01), indicating impaired glucose control.”

 

[Copercel]

5iu is not a low dosage? it says i can even cause diabetes on low dosages tho?

But it’s very rare unlink Mk. 5iu is a low dosage.

 

[Azie555]

“In the 1996 study, MK-677 at 25 mg/day significantly increased fasting glucose levels, rising from 5.4 to 6.8 mmol/L over 4 weeks (P < 0.01), indicating impaired glucose control.”

the people that did the test was 64-81 years old can it be because of that and also since you suggestted taking ancillaries like berb and metformin Cant i take them with mk too? Whats the difference?

 

[Copercel]

For the protocol- I’m not saying that HGH doesn’t cause diabetes/prediabtetes, but the risk is lower (dose for dose) and HGH have more positives than MK.

 

[Copercel]

the people that did the test was 64-81 years old can it be because of that and also since you suggestted taking ancillaries like berb and metformin Cant i take them with mk too? Whats the difference?

The difference is that Mk give much less benefit than HGH.

 

[Azie555]

For the protocol- I’m not saying that HGH doesn’t cause diabetes/prediabtetes, but the risk is lower (dose for dose) and HGH have more positives than MK.

how much positives that hgh has more then mk doesnt both increase igf and pretty much do similar things?

 

[Copercel]

how much positives that hgh has more then mk doesnt both increase igf and pretty much do similar things?

No, HGH is more potent. It will give you better skin, muscles and hair growth than Mk.

 

[Azie555]

No, HGH is more potent. It will give you better skin, muscles and hair growth than Mk.

oh damn

 

[Copercel]

oh damn

Yeah, I think we came to a conclusion didn’t we? HGH is better.

 

[Azie555]

No, HGH is more potent. It will give you better skin, muscles and hair growth than Mk.

But okay lets say mk has more higher risks then hgh on diabetes but isnt hgh could be riskier if its used for 20 weeks cuz in long term mk is only used for 8 weeks and hgh is used for 20 weeks am i right?

 

[Azie555]

But okay lets say mk has more higher risks then hgh on diabetes but isnt hgh could be riskier if its used for 20 weeks cuz in long term mk is only used for 8 weeks and hgh is used for 20 weeks am i right?

on cancer

 

[Copercel]

But okay lets say mk has more higher risks then hgh on diabetes but isnt hgh could be riskier if its used for 20 weeks cuz in long term mk is only used for 8 weeks and hgh is used for 20 weeks am i right?

HGH is used for 6 months yeah,that’s how you should use it.
The risks are lower tho that’s what makes it balanced.

 

[Copercel]

on cancer

Don’t even worry about cancer. From what I’ve seen, no one ever got cancer increase from it.

 

[Azie555]

HGH is used for 6 months yeah,that’s how you should use it.
The risks are lower tho that’s what makes it balanced.

so 20 weeks of hgh is less riskier then 8 weeks of mk667 in terms of diabetes? And your also saying 20 weeks of hgh has very small risk of making cancer bigger?

 

[Copercel]

so 20 weeks of hgh is less riskier then 8 weeks of mk667 in terms of diabetes? And your also saying 20 weeks of hgh has very small risk of making cancer bigger?

Yes exactly. While HGH is giving you more benefits.

 

[Azie555]

Yes exactly. While HGH is giving you Kris benefits.

for how long have u been on hgh for rn?

 

[Copercel]

for how long have u been on hgh for rn?

Almost two months.

 

[Azie555]

Almost two months.

how are the affects and are u taking blood tests?

 

[Copercel]

how are the affects and are u taking blood tests?

Yeah I’m taking blood tests and nothing changed so far. I’m on berb aswell.

 

[Azie555]

Yeah I’m taking blood tests and nothing changed so far. I’m on berb aswell.

how much iu are u taking daily and how old are you?

 

[Copercel]

how much iu are u taking daily and how old are you?

I’m 16 taking 5 iu .

 

[Azie555]

I’m 16 taking 5 iu .

do you have the paper results of you before and after blood test?

 

[Copercel]

do you have the paper results of you before and after blood test?

I would rather keep it private.

 

[Azie555]

I would rather keep it private.

oh okay but why isnt it just blood test of your progress with hgh?

 

[Copercel]

oh okay but why isnt it just blood test of your progress with hgh?

Yeah but it has my name and ID on it everywhere and I’m too lazy to blur it. But you can ask me what you need I will tell you.

 

[aids]

hgh and mk dont need to use pct tho cuz the test and gh goes back to normal after

NEITHER OF THESE AFFECT TESTOSTERONE LEVELS.

GROWTH HORMONE =/ TESTOSTERONE.
THE PATHWAY IS DIFFERENT.
THIS IS LIKE SAYING 100% OF PEOPLE WILL NEED TO PERMA-DOSE ISOTRETINOIN BECAUSE THE SEBUM PRODUCTION WILL RETURN TO BASELINE.
YOUR ANALOGY IS IRRELEVANT.

 

[Azie555]

NEITHER OF THESE AFFECT TESTOSTERONE LEVELS.

GROWTH HORMONE =/ TESTOSTERONE.
THE PATHWAY IS DIFFERENT.
THIS IS LIKE SAYING 100% OF PEOPLE WILL NEED TO PERMA-DOSE ISOTRETINOIN BECAUSE THE SEBUM PRODUCTION WILL RETURN TO BASELINE.
YOUR ANALOGY IS IRRELEVANT.

so what are you trying to say

 

[Azie555]

so you no progress yet and ur on 2 months nothing happend? No muscle growth? Nothing?

 

[Copercel]

so you no progress yet and ur on 2 months nothing happend? No muscle growth? Nothing?

I mean no downsides. I got only positives so far.

I meant that my insulin resistance didn’t change.

 

[Azie555]

I mean no downsides. I got only positives so far.

oh im talking about the positives lol qhat positives you got?

 

[Copercel]

oh im talking about the positives lol qhat positives you got?

Oh JFL. My phisique got much better, my skin is a bit better and I didn’t saw any hair growth changes so far.

 

[Azie555]

Oh JFL. My phisique got much better, my skin is a bit better and I didn’t saw any hair growth changes so far.

how much do you weigh rn and do u have a pic of your physique? if so can you send?

 

[Copercel]

how much do you weigh rn and do u have a pic of your physique? if so can you send?

I didn’t take a pic of my physique for a long time, but that is a pic of my physique 11 days after the cycle and after I started training.I started working out and roid at the same time.

Thread 'My physique after 11 days of training'
https://looksmax.org/threads/my-physique-after-11-days-of-training.1474799/

 

[Copercel]

It’s a month ago so keep that in mind.