Shaved today and feel like roping

[ifyouwannabemylover]

being clean shaven brings out my overbite subhuman lower third like nothing else. I can't believe how I could be so stupid and not realize that I needed bimax earlier.

I literally have to permanently jut my lower jaw to where my incisors meet in order to not look like an utter retard. I can clearly see it in the mirror how a few millimeters in my lower third completely fix my face. life is a joke.

 

[ifyouwannabemylover]

pics btw

left is now and right is bimax morph. looks worse in motion btw. jutting pretty much emulates the bimax morph.

never began

 

[Deleted member 7725]

I can't believe how I could be so stupid and not realize that I needed bimax earlier.

So relatable. If I would've gotten bimax when I was 18 like I was supposed to I would've never found this site. Instead my cuck ortho never brought it up and just camouflaged it.

 

[delta7]

aka youre not lean, next

 

[ifyouwannabemylover]

aka youre not lean, next

with all due respect you're a retard

 

[sergeant blackpill]

being clean shaven brings out my overbite subhuman lower third like nothing else. I can't believe how I could be so stupid and not realize that I needed bimax earlier.

I literally have to permanently jut my lower jaw to where my incisors meet in order to not look like an utter retard. I can clearly see it in the mirror how a few millimeters in my lower third completely fix my face. life is a joke.

same, i go up like 1.5 PSL by jutting, it's a wrap, life is a bad fucking joke man,

 

[WontStopNorwooding]

thats why im growing a chechen beard

 

[Copexodius Maximus]

What’s your bf%?

 

[ifyouwannabemylover]

What’s your bf%?

it's not fat. it's muscle/skin excess from a lack of bone/forward growth. I'm pretty skinny actually.

submental area doesn't always look this bad though. I was trying to stand up as straight as possible for the pic.

 

[Copexodius Maximus]

it's not fat. it's muscle/skin excess from a lack of bone/forward growth. I'm pretty skinny actually.

Still, do you know your %?

 

[one job away]

being clean shaven brings out my overbite subhuman lower third like nothing else. I can't believe how I could be so stupid and not realize that I needed bimax earlier.

I literally have to permanently jut my lower jaw to where my incisors meet in order to not look like an utter retard. I can clearly see it in the mirror how a few millimeters in my lower third completely fix my face. life is a joke.

We all getting bimax this year


Gang gang

 

[ifyouwannabemylover]

Still, do you know your %?

I'm not fat nor skinny fat. everytime I make a thread about this I get a bunch of gymcels who think leaning down to sub 10% bf is the solution to everything. jfl tbh.

 

[Lorsss]

you are less recessed than me
I don't know why but in some pictures such as the first I posted below, it does not even seem that I need bimax, while in others I look blatantly recessed

 

[ifyouwannabemylover]

We all getting bimax this year


Gang gang

are you going abroad for yours?

 

[one job away]

you have less recession than me

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You could ascend so hard. Your profile looks a lot like brandan stevens

 

[one job away]

are you going abroad for yours?

No. Getting it in Germany

 

[Copexodius Maximus]

I'm not fat nor skinny fat. everytime I make a thread about this I get a bunch of gymcels who think leaning down to sub 10% bf is the solution to everything. jfl tbh.

It is the best solution, because it’s something that you can naturally change yourself. I’m guessing you don’t know what your bf% actually is.

 

[delta7]

aka youre not lean, next

if its truly not fat then its more a sagging skin / hyoid issue rather than lack of forward growth

 

[Lorsss]

You could ascend so hard. Your profile looks a lot like brandan stevens

he has prominent orbital rims while I am a pandacel with recessed orbitals

 

[ifyouwannabemylover]

you are less recessed than me
I don't know why but in some pictures such as the first I posted below, it does not even seem that I need bimax, while in others I look blatantly recessed

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nah. I'm a little worse and my occlusion is also shit making my upper lip protrude which makes me look like a complete retard srs.

 

[Htobrother]

being clean shaven brings out my overbite subhuman lower third like nothing else. I can't believe how I could be so stupid and not realize that I needed bimax earlier.

I literally have to permanently jut my lower jaw to where my incisors meet in order to not look like an utter retard. I can clearly see it in the mirror how a few millimeters in my lower third completely fix my face. life is a joke.

Same shit bro my lower third was decent but since my maxilla got down and deformed and narrowed from jew orthodontist it’s looks like a rat now tbh
And I tried to shape up my mustache and beard and it the end it looked worse and i freaked out

Im not gonna shave till I get surgery

 

[Deleted member 15065]

U know what's worse, having overbite and looking horrible with facial hair

 

[ifyouwannabemylover]

if its truly not fat then its more a sagging skin / hyoid issue rather than lack of forward growth

yeah my hyoid is shit too, but if I had decent forward growth it would still look fine. it's the recession + bad hyoid that makes it look like this. you can get away with subpar hyoid if your bones are decent.

 

[one job away]

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he has prominent orbital rims while I am a pandacel with recessed orbitals

Yeah. Eye area of yours is shit. But if I was you I would pick him as looksmax idol. You’re overall base is very similar.


Slight chin adjustment and then some softmaxxes

 

[Lorsss]

You could ascend so hard. Your profile looks a lot like brandan stevens

I think I need bimax first but some people argue that bimax is less important than getting a lip lift to reduce my subhuman long philtrum
what do you think ?

 

[Lorsss]

Slight chin adjustment and then some softmaxxes

I tried morpphing an augmented chin in my side profile and it looks like shit.
I need a bimax to advance my whole lower jaw, not only the chin

 

[ifyouwannabemylover]

No. Getting it in Germany

I would be highly grateful if you could pm me some details at least after you're done with it

 

[Htobrother]

I think I need bimax first but some people argue that bimax is less important than getting a lip lift to reduce my subhuman long philtrum
what do you think ?
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Grow a beard bro try

 

[one job away]

I think I need bimax first but some people argue that bimax is less important than getting a lip lift to reduce my subhuman long philtrum
what do you think ?
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Depends on how serious you are about bimax. Imo a chin adjustment is all you need but if you are a bimax candidate then I would wait and do liplift after bimax. Bimax can heavily influence the lip position

 

[Deleted member 16375]

you are less recessed than me
I don't know why but in some pictures such as the first I posted below, it does not even seem that I need bimax, while in others I look blatantly recessed

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Posture has a strong effect on how pronounced your mandible is, especially if you have a mild to moderate overbite.

 

[Deleted member 15065]

I think I need bimax first but some people argue that bimax is less important than getting a lip lift to reduce my subhuman long philtrum
what do you think ?
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U look harmless no offense

 

[ifyouwannabemylover]

I don't know why but in some pictures such as the first I posted below, it does not even seem that I need bimax, while in others I look blatantly recessed

slight differences in head tilt that do this for the most part I think

 

[Deleted member 7098]

it does not even seem that I need bimax,

pics btw

left is now and right is bimax morph. looks worse in motion btw. jutting pretty much emulates the bimax morph.
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you both don't need bimax, OP is just chubby and your foward growth is fine

 

[Schönling]

No. Getting it in Germany

Which surgeon

 

[one job away]

Which surgeon

Not disclosing sorry. Atleast not now.

 

[Deleted member 9670]

pics btw

left is now and right is bimax morph. looks worse in motion btw. jutting pretty much emulates the bimax morph.
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Not that bad

 

[ifyouwannabemylover]

Not disclosing sorry. Atleast not now.

is he based

 

[Deleted member 7098]

a pandacel

wtf I'm stealing that lmao

 

[Deleted member 7098]

Not disclosing sorry. Atleast not now.

covered by insurance?

 

[one job away]

is he based

I took the one where I felt I get the best treatment.

covered by insurance?

yes. I also consulted with plenty of known blackpilled ones like ramieri and Z where I would have to pay myself. but the one where I ended up actually had a better understanding of what I need than the others. Just goes to show known isn’t always better.

 

[ifyouwannabemylover]

OP is just chubby

 

[.👽.]

pics btw

left is now and right is bimax morph. looks worse in motion btw. jutting pretty much emulates the bimax morph.
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thats why i just 24/7 to camouflage my overbite. u r not that bad recessed tbh, mogs me

 

[Deleted member 7098]

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no visible abs = chubby

 

[ifyouwannabemylover]

no visible abs = chubby

alright brah. 95% of people are chubby. I do have slight abs btw it's just shit lighting and camera quality.

 

[loksr]

alright brah. 95% of people are chubby. I do have slight abs btw it's just shit lighting and camera quality.

If you’ve never been full on six pack lean, you need to get full on six pack lean.
It’s retarded to even think about shit like surgery before trying that first.

 

[ifyouwannabemylover]

yes. I also consulted with plenty of known blackpilled ones like ramieri and Z where I would have to pay myself. but the one where I ended up actually had a better understanding of what I need than the others. Just goes to show known isn’t always better.

does your surgeon routinely work together with your orthodontist or did you arrange that? how did that go

 

[TsarTsar444]

If you’ve never been full on six pack lean, you need to get full on six pack lean.
It’s retarded to even think about shit like surgery before trying that first.

Crash your hormones and brain bro

 

[ifyouwannabemylover]

Crash your hormones and brain bro

everytime I make a thread about this I get a bunch of gymcels who think leaning down to sub 10% bf is the solution to everything. jfl tbh.

 

[TsarTsar444]

Jfl don't listen to retards here , i went to 9% bf and ruined my libido, anxiety ramped up, felt cold, starved, watery cum, fucking hilarious shit , ideal bf percentage for a male is 14-18%, thats the range that those NFL jocks are in

 

[one job away]

does your surgeon routinely work together with your orthodontist or did you arrange that? how did that go

Most orthos have the same surgeons they usually work with.


So I initially went straight to a maxfac and said I want to improve my profile. The usual route is you go to an ortho and then he forwards you to a surgeon but that wouldn’t happen in my case. They wouldn’t even give me braces …. so yeah I first went to a a couple of maxfacs. Once I had secured a couple I went on a search for a ortho who is willing to work with those surgeons. I had a few consultations there as well and thank god i didn’t pick the first one who said yes.

So I went to the ortho where I’m at now. I told them straight up I want bimax and that I already have surgeons willing to operate. I just need the braces. I think the fact I had secured surgeons was the covincing Argument as im not a usual bimax case.
They asked me to consult one more surgeon whom they work with usually. I thought nothing will come out of this and did it just to not piss them off. Turned out to be the best choice