Should I go see a maxillofacial surgeon and drop my Invisalign?

[Deleted member 17429]

Quick stats:
16YO

I have a class II maloccusion, aka overbite.
I was a bluepilled normie about 3-4 months ago and went to get Invisalign to fix this.
The orthodontist gave me rubber bands or elastics, and now after reading what I’ve seen on this forum I’ve been reconsidering it.


Should I go and see a maxillofacial surgeon instead of sticking with my invisalign? I rushed and spent 5000$ on this shit .

Photos of my bite attached;

 

[Deleted member 17429]

bump

 

[Reckless Turtle]

Yes. You are clearly recessed.

 

[Deleted member 17429]

Yes. You are clearly recessed.

What surgery would you recommend?
Is any normie maxillofacial surgeon gonna do the job?

 

[Reckless Turtle]

What surgery would you recommend?
Is any normie maxillofacial surgeon gonna do the job?

DJS, depends

 

[Deleted member 17429]

DJS, depends

depends on what

 

[Deleted member 17429]

bump

 

[Deleted member 1660]

Now that I look at it I think that the elastics should be fine. After getting your bite fixed start chewing chios gum or resin to strengthen your chin.

 

[Deleted member 18361]

Now that I look at it I think that the elastics should be fine. After getting your bite fixed start chewing chios gum or resin to strengthen your chin.

how does your mind explain chewing to “strengthen” a chin? lol

 

[Deleted member 1660]

chewing causes bone remodeling in the skull and it can improve your chin area and eventually line up the jaw and upper jaw.

 

[noprogressno]

Yes, definetely

 

[Deleted member 17429]

Yes, definetely

Yes, see a maxillofacial surgeon?

 

[Deleted member 19184]

Even with your extremely proclined maxillary incisors, you still have a retrusive upper lip and large nasolabial angle. Once those teeth are uprighted following your treatment, that lip support will only decrease further.

Retrognathic mandible, skeletal Class II is apparent from the side profile.

Since you’re done growing for the most part (sometimes you’ll get a bit more late mandibular growth but not much), surgery would be the only option to correct that skeletal issue. Aligners would only fix the occlusion but not the facial aesthetics.

In this case the optimal treatment would be to correct the class II relationship surgically, by positioning the mandible more anteriorly, which would also correct much of your overjet and malocclusion. And then tipping those upper incisors backwards is a piece of cake with clear aligners.

 

[Deleted member 17429]

Even with your extremely proclined maxillary incisors, you still have a retrusive upper lip and large nasolabial angle. Once those teeth are uprighted following your treatment, that lip support will only decrease further.

Retrognathic mandible, skeletal Class II is apparent from the side profile.

Since you’re done growing for the most part (sometimes you’ll get a bit more late mandibular growth but not much), surgery would be the only option to correct that skeletal issue. Aligners would only fix the occlusion but not the facial aesthetics.

will finish invisalign and update my before/after
i asked some knowledgeable users, and they said I wasn't recessed at all, just dental overbite.
don't really know what to believe anymore

if i'm still recessed, i don't mind surgery

 

[Deleted member 17429]

Even with your extremely proclined maxillary incisors, you still have a retrusive upper lip and large nasolabial angle. Once those teeth are uprighted following your treatment, that lip support will only decrease further.

Retrognathic mandible, skeletal Class II is apparent from the side profile.

Since you’re done growing for the most part (sometimes you’ll get a bit more late mandibular growth but not much), surgery would be the only option to correct that skeletal issue. Aligners would only fix the occlusion but not the facial aesthetics.

In this case the optimal treatment would be to correct the class II relationship surgically, by positioning the mandible more anteriorly, which would also correct much of your overjet and malocclusion. And then tipping those upper incisors backwards is a piece of cake with clear aligners.

how come i look much better with my retainers in then? when I take them off i legit lose aesthetics

 

[Marco Polo]

Order a consultation with atleast 2 different "blackpilled" maxillofacial surgeons, see what they have to say and then, decided on your own