should I use tamoxifen during or after cycle (16)

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running var with little to no test base and im buying tamoxifen with it. should I use it during the cycle or just after?
 
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tamoxifen messes with my eyes so much but a short cycle of it is good for preventing and fixing gyno u can do it after should be fine
 
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testosterone36 said:
tamoxifen messes with my eyes so much but a short cycle of it is good for preventing and fixing gyno u can do it after should be fine
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will it help bring back natural test production and how long do u run it for?
 
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treyu12464 said:
running var with little to no test base and im buying tamoxifen with it. should I use it during the cycle or just after?
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You need a test base, no ur not gonna be on trt for life, especially when ur doing a low test base, your gonna bring back ur natural as soon as your pct kicks in
 
peterk1287 said:
You need a test base, no ur not gonna be on trt for life, especially when ur doing a low test base, your gonna bring back ur natural as soon as your pct kicks in
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in the studies I read no test base was used in adolescents. is it really that important, even If I have a really good pct? maybe I see how I feel and if I get ed I start test? the anavar dose is so low. what if I used hcg during the anavar cycle?
 
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peterk1287 said:
You need a test base, no ur not gonna be on trt for life, especially when ur doing a low test base, your gonna bring back ur natural as soon as your pct kicks in
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treyu12464 said:
in the studies I read no test base was used in adolescents. is it really that important, even If I have a really good pct? maybe I see how I feel and if I get ed I start test? the anavar dose is so low. what if I used hcg during the anavar cycle?
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Most studies used small doses and all were used in girls, the studies anavar in boys was used when they obviously had a developmental problem, the shut down of testosterone didnt out weight the other development issues anavar targeted, it make sense for a test base if ur fully healthy and want to use anavar
 
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Most studies used small doses and all were used in girls, the studies anavar in boys was used when they obviously had a developmental problem, the shut down of testosterone didnt out weight the other development issues anavar targeted, it make sense for a test base if ur fully healthy and want to use anavar
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okay thanks, what's the lowest dose of test I can use and which version? P, C, E, I saw one post of someone using 5 a day,
 
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testosterone36 said:
estrogen receptors get dulled out and eyes have estrogen receptors which tamoxifen disrupts
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Brutal, that’s why you use ralox, they seem to be less harsh on the eyes, you sure they just weren’t dry? Tamox can cause that
 
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treyu12464 said:
okay thanks, what's the lowest dose of test I can use and which version? P, C, E
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E with daily injections, 100-150 weekly spread out daily
 
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peterk1287 said:
Less frequent injection cause more aromiztion and hormonal imbalances through out the day
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im using aromasin already too, does this change anything? also if I can't inject for a couple days should I stop the test and var or only the test? and when im done just go cold turkey on both or taper down the test and then start pct. and what would the best pct be? novaldex and hcg?
 
treyu12464 said:
running var with little to no test base and im buying tamoxifen with it. should I use it during the cycle or just after?
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Tamox if super effective for delaying growth plate maturation so use 10-20mg during whole cycle especially if ur gonna use test
 
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im using aromasin already too, does this change anything? also if I can't inject for a couple days should I stop the test and var or only the test? and when im done just go cold turkey on both or taper down the test and then start pct. and what would the best pct be? novaldex and hcg?
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How much Aromasin are you using rn, how long are you planning on running test and var?
 
peterk1287 said:
How much Aromasin are you using rn, how long are you planning on running test and var?
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12.5 every 2 days but thats all im running right now, probably 2-4 months, also when I hop off I want to try to not lose as much as I can
 
treyu12464 said:
im using aromasin already too, does this change anything? also if I can't inject for a couple days should I stop the test and var or only the test? and when im done just go cold turkey on both or taper down the test and then start pct. and what would the best pct be? novaldex and hcg?
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treyu12464 said:
12.5 every 2 days but thats all im running right now, probably 2-4 months, also when I hop off I want to try to not lose as much as I can
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If you don’t inject a couple days it’s gonna be fine, you need a longer cycle lol, you start to see benefits of test, one month in, Dont pct, just cruise with ur test dosage, if you pct ur gonna lose all ur gains
 
what do you mean by cruise? will I just run that test forever?
 
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Medically it's like 4 weeks up to 10 years and it's cheap so why not. 5 or 6 weeks optimal after finishing androg roid cycles tbh
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so run var and test for a while then when I hop off novaldex. will I lose most of my gains?
 
treyu12464 said:
so run var and test for a while then when I hop off novaldex. will I lose most of my gains?
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You'll lose gains you don't do shit. Don't be a couch potato and work, it'll more about maintaining muscle rather than building at that stage. But if your pct doesn't work then it's over
 
yordancel said:
You'll lose gains you don't do shit. Don't be a couch potato and work, it'll more about maintaining muscle rather than building at that stage. But if your pct doesn't work then it's over
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if my pct doesn't what?
 
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