Should surgerymaxxing for a weak lower third really be used as a last resort if you‘re still young?

[Deleted member 26092]

I‘m just 17 and am notably recessed but not a birdcel.
So I know your lower third and jaw can still grow forward with exercises or blasting growth hormones so I kind don‘t want to do invasive surgeries yet.
On the otherhand I also heard you can get free ccw bimax if you‘re recessed and have things such as breathing issues, tmjd and sleep apnea.
I have tmjd and breathing issues.
I also am probably getting surgery to clear my nasal pathways and fix my wrong developed nose breathing. I think this also why I was a moutbreather from 12-now.
I don‘t know if a clear nose and some exercises (mewing, thumb pulling, mouth taping at night etc) can fix a recession and breathing issues caused by over 7 years of partial mouth breathing. I‘m also getting a sleep apnea test device in a few weeks. So there‘s a chance I might get free ccw bimax.
Would you say it‘s too early for that, should I just stick to softmaxxing and wait out how my face develops? Then go for bimax and genio at 20 something if I‘m still recessed? I know I posted a similar thread yesterday but Idk what‘s best for now.

 

[RazerGlazer]

Yes.

It will only get worse.

Brace yourself for surgery.

 

[Deleted member 26092]

Yes.

It will only get worse.

Brace yourself for surgery.

But my orthodontist said my face can still grow until I‘m in my early 20‘s.

 

[Foreverbrad]

Free bimaxes won’t make you forward grown by PSL standards.

My maxfac said I’m not an obvious bimax candidate and yet this forum tells me I’m horribly recessed.

 

[Deleted member 26092]

Free bimaxes won’t make you forward grown by PSL standards.

My maxfac said I’m not an obvious bimax candidate and yet this forum tells me I’m horribly recessed.

It‘s not „free“ in a sense you‘re probably thinking. My private insurance will most likely pay for it.

 

[Deleted member 15854]

But my orthodontist said my face can still grow until I‘m in my early 20‘s.

yeah, chin and lower third usually matures last so wait it out as you could be wasting money. hexum, gandy had late second puberty

 

[Deleted member 15854]

I‘m just 17 and am notably recessed but not a birdcel.
So I know your lower third and jaw can still grow forward with exercises or blasting growth hormones so I kind don‘t want to do invasive surgeries yet.
On the otherhand I also heard you can get free ccw bimax if you‘re recessed and have things such as breathing issues, tmjd and sleep apnea.
I have tmjd and breathing issues.
I also am probably getting surgery to clear my nasal pathways and fix my wrong developed nose breathing. I think this also why I was a moutbreather from 12-now.
I don‘t know if a clear nose and some exercises (mewing, thumb pulling, mouth taping at night etc) can fix a recession and breathing issues caused by over 7 years of partial mouth breathing. I‘m also getting a sleep apnea test device in a few weeks. So there‘s a chance I might get free ccw bimax.
Would you say it‘s too early for that, should I just stick to softmaxxing and wait out how my face develops? Then go for bimax and genio at 20 something if I‘m still recessed? I know I posted a similar thread yesterday but Idk what‘s best for now.

but yeah if recessed to the extent they offer free treatment go for that. i dont think puberty will be magical enough to save that

 

[Deleted member 26092]

yeah, chin and lower third usually matures last so wait it out as you could be wasting money. hexum, gandy had late second puberty

Any chance I can „activate“ a second puberty in me?

but yeah if recessed to the extent they offer free treatment go for that. i dont think puberty will be magical enough to save that

what about blasting test and growth hormones, I heard it can still masculinize your face if you‘re below 20.
I think Loox (@androgenic) made it with work. My facial structure looks a bit similar to his when he was 18.

 

[Deleted member 15854]

Any chance I can „activate“ a second puberty in me?

what about blasting test and growth hormones, I heard it can still masculinize your face if you‘re below 20.
I think Loox (@androgenic) made it with work. My facial structure looks a bit similar to his when he was 18.

yeah, hormonemaxx and lower estrogen to preserve growth plates longer. this has its side effects tho. i think try optimise naturally through good diet, sleep, exercise, avoid pufa, polyester etc xenoestrogen shit

 

[Deleted member 26092]

yeah, hormonemaxx and lower estrogen to preserve growth plates longer. this has its side effects tho. i think try optimise naturally through good diet, sleep, exercise, avoid pufa, polyester etc xenoestrogen shit

Thanks man. Good any threads or links for good cycles? At best included with height- face- and framemaxxing?

 

[lebronjames23]

But my orthodontist said my face can still grow until I‘m in my early 20‘s.

He’s correct

Here are some strategies you should utilise

1. Mewing
2. Jaw Exercises
3. Jaw Subliminal Affirmations
4. MK677 or HGH
5. Masteron for jaw gains

This is what I and many others have used with great success @decadouche57 @5.5psl

 

[Deleted member 26092]

He’s correct

Here are some strategies you should utilise

1. Mewing
2. Jaw Exercises
3. Jaw Subliminal Affirmations
4. MK677 or HGH
5. Masteron for jaw gains

This is what I and many others have used with great success @decadouche57 @5.5psl

Thank you very much. Have you maybe got a detailed guide I can use?

 

[lebronjames23]

Thank you very much. Have you maybe got a detailed guide I can use?

I’d recommend to research them individually

But 400mg + of Masteron is good for jaw gains
25mg for a cycle of MK677

Mewing is self explanatory

- this is a great subliminal for jaw gains, listen while you sleep

 

[Deleted member 26092]

I’d recommend to research them individually

But 400mg + of Masteron is good for jaw gains
25mg for a cycle of MK677

Mewing is self explanatory

- this is a great subliminal for jaw gains, listen while you sleep

Thanks

 

[lepo2317]

Free bimaxes won’t make you forward grown by PSL standards.

My maxfac said I’m not an obvious bimax candidate and yet this forum tells me I’m horribly recessed.

That's because 99.9% orthos/maxfags are bluepilled. You have good occlusion? You are fine even tho you are recessed subhuman.

 

[malicieusss]

I‘m just 17 and am notably recessed but not a birdcel.
So I know your lower third and jaw can still grow forward with exercises or blasting growth hormones so I kind don‘t want to do invasive surgeries yet.
On the otherhand I also heard you can get free ccw bimax if you‘re recessed and have things such as breathing issues, tmjd and sleep apnea.
I have tmjd and breathing issues.
I also am probably getting surgery to clear my nasal pathways and fix my wrong developed nose breathing. I think this also why I was a moutbreather from 12-now.
I don‘t know if a clear nose and some exercises (mewing, thumb pulling, mouth taping at night etc) can fix a recession and breathing issues caused by over 7 years of partial mouth breathing. I‘m also getting a sleep apnea test device in a few weeks. So there‘s a chance I might get free ccw bimax.
Would you say it‘s too early for that, should I just stick to softmaxxing and wait out how my face develops? Then go for bimax and genio at 20 something if I‘m still recessed? I know I posted a similar thread yesterday but Idk what‘s best for now.

DM me your pics. I am doxxed myself, won't share.

 

[Deleted member 26092]

DM me your pics. I am doxxed myself, won't share.

I‘ll send them later today.

 

[RazerGlazer]

But my orthodontist said my face can still grow until I‘m in my early 20‘s.

JFL @ trusting orthodontist. They will ruin your face and later on tell you that it was not their fault

 

[Deleted member 26092]

JFL @ trusting orthodontist. They will ruin your face and later on tell you that it was not their fault

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Funnily my orthodontist is recessed himself. So it‘s kinda weird in a way.
But I‘m still on the line if surgery is the only option. Otherways I don’t want to stay recessed until the mid of my 20‘s and then slowly develop sleep apnea either.

 

[Deleted member 20631]

Funnily my orthodontist is recessed himself. So it‘s kinda weird in a way.
But I‘m still on the line if surgery is the only option. Otherways I don’t want to stay recessed until the mid of my 20‘s and then slowly develop sleep apnea either.

Don’t listen to these retards, you won’t get significant jaw growth in your 20s. Start considering/planning for surgery

 

[Deleted member 26092]

Don’t listen to these retards, you won’t get significant jaw growth in your 20s. Start considering/planning for surgery

Still doesn‘t hurt to try. Besides that I‘m getting a sleep apnea test device in a few weeks. I‘ll also mention again that I have breathing issues and tmjd.

 

[ripcordgod1]

I‘m just 17 and am notably recessed but not a birdcel.
So I know your lower third and jaw can still grow forward with exercises or blasting growth hormones so I kind don‘t want to do invasive surgeries yet.
On the otherhand I also heard you can get free ccw bimax if you‘re recessed and have things such as breathing issues, tmjd and sleep apnea.
I have tmjd and breathing issues.
I also am probably getting surgery to clear my nasal pathways and fix my wrong developed nose breathing. I think this also why I was a moutbreather from 12-now.
I don‘t know if a clear nose and some exercises (mewing, thumb pulling, mouth taping at night etc) can fix a recession and breathing issues caused by over 7 years of partial mouth breathing. I‘m also getting a sleep apnea test device in a few weeks. So there‘s a chance I might get free ccw bimax.
Would you say it‘s too early for that, should I just stick to softmaxxing and wait out how my face develops? Then go for bimax and genio at 20 something if I‘m still recessed? I know I posted a similar thread yesterday but Idk what‘s best for now.

you need to fix your bite and tongue posture (jaw looks bigger with proper posture)
then u need to pull ur lower palate with ur fingers pull that shit 5 sets 1 minute every day it'll hurt like crazy but u will get a wider jaw and mogger lower third

 

[Deleted member 26092]

you need to fix your bite and tongue posture (jaw looks bigger with proper posture)
then u need to pull ur lower palate with ur fingers pull that shit 5 sets 1 minute every day it'll hurt like crazy but u will get a wider jaw and mogger lower third

Man idk if that can fix my breathing issues and over 5 year of wrong jaw development.

 

[Deleted member 20631]

Man idk if that can fix my breathing issues and over 5 year of wrong jaw development.

It won’t, you’ll regret wasting time. Start saving up for surgery