Skincare routine without tret

[jackieboy21]

Anyone got a good skincare routine without using tretinoin? I want improved collagen formation on face and also improved collagen production in the body

 

[Deleted member 6892]

Why no tret

 

[jackieboy21]

Why no tret

Fuck the anecdotal fat loss tbh even if it dosent exist

 

[CokoMleko]

Fuck the anecdotal fat loss tbh even if it dosent exist

THIS GUY AND HIS FAT LOSS WITH RETIN A

 

[Deleted member 6892]

Fuck the anecdotal fat loss tbh even if it dosent exist

You’re retarded and abandoning best anti aging skin care item for some myths

 

[Deleted member 6273]

You’re retarded and abandoning best anti aging skin care item for some myths

Cope.

It does cause fat loss and retinoids can affect vision.

Retin-A Causes Loss of Subcutaneous Fat

TLDR: Transretinoic acid impairs the PPAR-gamma transcription factors that control lipogenesis. The bulk of those who experience this effect are relatively young and thus have not dealt with the UV-induced fat loss common in older people, so that is likely why the fat loss is more pronounced and...

looksmax.org

(PDF) Side effects of retinoid therapy on the quality of vision

PDF | Retinoids are compounds chemically related to vitamin A, which are frequently used in dermatological practice (1). They are characterized by... | Find, read and cite all the research you need on ResearchGate

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Still worth a try though many people don't experience these side effects but still important to know they exist.

 

[Deleted member 7901]

Cope.

It does cause fat loss and retinoids can affect vision.

Retin-A Causes Loss of Subcutaneous Fat

TLDR: Transretinoic acid impairs the PPAR-gamma transcription factors that control lipogenesis. The bulk of those who experience this effect are relatively young and thus have not dealt with the UV-induced fat loss common in older people, so that is likely why the fat loss is more pronounced and...

looksmax.org

(PDF) Side effects of retinoid therapy on the quality of vision

PDF | Retinoids are compounds chemically related to vitamin A, which are frequently used in dermatological practice (1). They are characterized by... | Find, read and cite all the research you need on ResearchGate

www.researchgate.net

Still worth a try though many people don't experience these side effects but still important to know they exist.

I have so much fatcels already because I used to be obese and my vision is shit already

 

[Deleted member 275]

swap retin for vitC serum+azalaic acid. (VitC in evening, azalaic in the morning since vitc exfoliates more heavily).

So your routine in the evening becomes:

Wash your skin with cleanser/toner.
Let it dry shortly.
Vit C serum.
Wait 20 mins.
Hyaluranic acid.
Moisturizer.

And in the morning:

Wash your skin with cleanser/toner.
Let it dry shortly.
Azalaic Acid.
Wait 20 mins.
Hyaluranic acid.
Moisturizer+SPF.

Make sure SPF is both UVA and UVB. and atleast 20SPF but preferably 30SPF.

Ordinary has good Hyaluranic acid, Azalaic Acid and Vit C serum (get the stronger silicon based one).

 

[Deleted member 6892]

Cope.

It does cause fat loss and retinoids can affect vision.

Retin-A Causes Loss of Subcutaneous Fat

TLDR: Transretinoic acid impairs the PPAR-gamma transcription factors that control lipogenesis. The bulk of those who experience this effect are relatively young and thus have not dealt with the UV-induced fat loss common in older people, so that is likely why the fat loss is more pronounced and...

looksmax.org

(PDF) Side effects of retinoid therapy on the quality of vision

PDF | Retinoids are compounds chemically related to vitamin A, which are frequently used in dermatological practice (1). They are characterized by... | Find, read and cite all the research you need on ResearchGate

www.researchgate.net

Still worth a try though many people don't experience these side effects but still important to know they exist.

Cope lmao none of these are true and like 1% experiences them

 

[Deleted member 6273]

Cope lmao none of these are true and like 1% experiences them

 

[MewingJBP]

tret is the only thing that isn't a cope besides avoiding sun/wearing sunscreen lol

 

[jackieboy21]

swap retin for vitC serum+azalaic acid. (VitC in evening, azalaic in the morning since vitc exfoliates more heavily).

So your routine in the evening becomes:

Wash your skin with cleanser/toner.
Let it dry shortly.
Vit C serum.
Wait 20 mins.
Hyaluranic acid.
Moisturizer.

And in the morning:

Wash your skin with cleanser/toner.
Let it dry shortly.
Azalaic Acid.
Wait 20 mins.
Hyaluranic acid.
Moisturizer+SPF.

Make sure SPF is both UVA and UVB. and atleast 20SPF but preferably 30SPF.

Ordinary has good Hyaluranic acid, Azalaic Acid and Vit C serum (get the stronger silicon based one).

High IQ thank you!

 

[Autismmaxxed]

@Syobevoli routine is good, maybe do AHA and BHA later too

 

[jackieboy21]

@Syobevoli routine is good, maybe do AHA and BHA later too

What are those?

 

[Autismmaxxed]

What are those?

Exfoliants
AHA removes outer layer of skin, makes look fresher/younger
BHA is Salicylic acid which is amazing for acne and redness

if you do too much you’ll fuck up your skin, start slow

 

[jackieboy21]

Exfoliants
AHA removes outer layer of skin, makes look fresher/younger
BHA is Salicylic acid which is amazing for acne and redness

if you do too much you’ll fuck up your skin, start slow

Cheers man will deffo check these out

 

[Deleted member 10536]

How is facial fat even a desired thing here? "Omg, I wish I looked as BLOATED as I could." Wtf is this shit? If anything, you want to get rid of all the fat that's on your face, and get as lean as possible, retina seems like a miracle cheat code for that.
The only place you don't want to put it close to are eyes, so guess what? Don't put it into your eyes. That fucking simple.

 

[lasthope]

How is facial fat even a desired thing here? "Omg, I wish I looked as BLOATED as I could." Wtf is this shit? If anything, you want to get rid of all the fat that's on your face, and get as lean as possible, retina seems like a miracle cheat code for that.
The only place you don't want to put it close to are eyes, so guess what? Don't put it into your eyes. That fucking simple.

this I don't get the hate against Retin a

 

[jackieboy21]

How is facial fat even a desired thing here? "Omg, I wish I looked as BLOATED as I could." Wtf is this shit? If anything, you want to get rid of all the fat that's on your face, and get as lean as possible, retina seems like a miracle cheat code for that.
The only place you don't want to put it close to are eyes, so guess what? Don't put it into your eyes. That fucking simple.

It migrates around the eye area

 

[lasthope]

It migrates around the eye area

just stay away from it

i cant imagine it migrate from cheeks up to the eyes lol

 

[jackieboy21]

just stay away from it

i cant imagine it migrate from cheeks up to the eyes lol

According to the best of best thread of collagenmaxxing dermarolling is a 400% increase compared to tret which is only 80%, the disbenefit of dermarolling is using up your bodys collagen stores too quickly but if you can get your body in optimum collagen producing state then you can dermaroll and get that 400% facial collagen boost without any of the potential sides from tret

 

[Autismmaxxed]

@jackieboy21 only if you dermaroll extremely often. Some do too often